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Hubert Davis Post-Clemson Press Conference

If Hubert really believes rebounding is so important, as he said, then why has he been recruiting shorter and shorter? That worked with Armando in the middle.

Yes, we are a really short team. But that's by choice. We could play big, but we don't. Yes, yes, because we have an abundance of short talent and you want your best talent on the floor. But you recruited all of these guys. You created a team where the best talent on the floor produces mediocre rebounding.

I don't know if that's bad recruiting, bad development, or bad PT choices - but it isn't where I'd expect someone who believes in the importance of rebounding would position his team.

For those who have forgotten, our 2025 recruits are 6'3, 6'5 and a scrawny 6'9. That's (probably) a little taller than what we lose (if we keep Drake) but not big steps in that direction. If we are really going to address the height, front line and rebounding deficits, we're going to need some can't-miss help from the portal.
 
If Hubert really believes rebounding is so important, as he said, then why has he been recruiting shorter and shorter? That worked with Armando in the middle.

Yes, we are a really short team. But that's by choice. We could play big, but we don't. Yes, yes, because we have an abundance of short talent and you want your best talent on the floor. But you recruited all of these guys. You created a team where the best talent on the floor produces mediocre rebounding.

I don't know if that's bad recruiting, bad development, or bad PT choices - but it isn't where I'd expect someone who believes in the importance of rebounding would position his team.

For those who have forgotten, our 2025 recruits are 6'3, 6'5 and a scrawny 6'9. That's (probably) a little taller than what we lose (if we keep Drake) but not big steps in that direction. If we are really going to address the height, front line and rebounding deficits, we're going to need some can't-miss help from the portal.
General rebounding is also not the most important indicator in who wins/loses like Hubert Davis said in postgame. It's a really old school thought that isn't really the case. You obviously can't be the worst rebounding but to say rebounding is the most important indicator is a bit concerning to me.
 
I was curious about the relationship across height, rebounding and W-L. While it's obvious that we have been short for the last 2 seasons, it's not easy (for me, at least) to eyeball the correlations. If anyone wants to run the numbers through a regression program or show us some scatter plots, that might be interesting. But it sort of looks like who your bigs are is more important than team height.

I was tempted to leave out the COVID seasons, but decided to include them.

YearW-LHeight RankRebounding Rank
202514-11 (so far)318125
202429-81617
202320-13238
202229-10316
202118-1173
202014-19202
201929-7181
201826-11781
201733-7351
201633-75915
201526-12322
201424-107510
201326-114929

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If Hubert really believes rebounding is so important, as he said, then why has he been recruiting shorter and shorter? That worked with Armando in the middle.

Yes, we are a really short team. But that's by choice. We could play big, but we don't. Yes, yes, because we have an abundance of short talent and you want your best talent on the floor. But you recruited all of these guys. You created a team where the best talent on the floor produces mediocre rebounding.

I don't know if that's bad recruiting, bad development, or bad PT choices - but it isn't where I'd expect someone who believes in the importance of rebounding would position his team.

For those who have forgotten, our 2025 recruits are 6'3, 6'5 and a scrawny 6'9. That's (probably) a little taller than what we lose (if we keep Drake) but not big steps in that direction. If we are really going to address the height, front line and rebounding deficits, we're going to need some can't-miss help from the portal.

Bingo. I said this last week. We all recognize our lack of post presence is a huge issue for us, yet we continue to focus recruiting on more combo guards. He's not the guy. We don't to stop the BS. Hiring a GM and turning over a staff don't solve for the main problem, and that's Hubert.
 
I think this GM is basically a band-aide to buy Hubert more time because the administration doesn’t have the backbone to start the rebuild yet.
 
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Rebounding is an is an attitude and a drive more than a skill you got to want to rebound to rebound that's why Seth leads the team in rebounding and he's small.

Rodman was the best rebounder to ever live and there is a reason, because its and attitude and he has a huge one.
 
Rebounding is an is an attitude and a drive more than a skill you got to want to rebound to rebound that's why Seth leads the team in rebounding and he's small.

Rodman was the best rebounder to ever live and there is a reason, because its and attitude and he has a huge one.
You beat me to the Rodman analogy. Gotta have that “DOG” in you and fight for it
 
I was curious about the relationship across height, rebounding and W-L. While it's obvious that we have been short for the last 2 seasons, it's not easy (for me, at least) to eyeball the correlations. If anyone wants to run the numbers through a regression program or show us some scatter plots, that might be interesting. But it sort of looks like who your bigs are is more important than team height.

I was tempted to leave out the COVID seasons, but decided to include them.

YearW-LHeight RankRebounding Rank
202514-11 (so far)318125
202429-81617
202320-13238
202229-10316
202118-1173
202014-19202
201929-7181
201826-11781
201733-7351
201633-75915
201526-12322
201424-107510
201326-114929

.
Man just look at all of the double digit losses. Thats not Tar Heel basketball very few when Dean was coaching
 
I wonder how many times in the years that Roy coached has he ever said the words "I don't know" in a press conference.
 
I feel like the Dean Smith teams had a lot of close games, but he was the master at coaching end-of-game scenarios. Hubert, not so much. At least not yet. Go Heels!
 
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I was curious about the relationship across height, rebounding and W-L. While it's obvious that we have been short for the last 2 seasons, it's not easy (for me, at least) to eyeball the correlations. If anyone wants to run the numbers through a regression program or show us some scatter plots, that might be interesting. But it sort of looks like who your bigs are is more important than team height.

I was tempted to leave out the COVID seasons, but decided to include them.

YearW-LHeight RankRebounding Rank
202514-11 (so far)318125
202429-81617
202320-13238
202229-10316
202118-1173
202014-19202
201929-7181
201826-11781
201733-7351
201633-75915
201526-12322
201424-107510
201326-114929

.
One year top 10 in height and 10 years top 10 in rebounds. Says more about the “want to” than than the measurables.
 
One year top 10 in height and 10 years top 10 in rebounds. Says more about the “want to” than than the measurables.
2 years in a row starting 6’8 Luke Maye and 6’9 Garrison Brooks and leading the country in rebounding. Neither of those guys could jump a foot off the ground either.

Its truly a shame Roy had his last 2 years go so terribly. The 4 years before that he had 3 years as a 1 seed, the other a 2 and 2 championship game appearances with 1 championship. Totally understand why he didnt want to join in on the NIL and portal circus, but it’s crazy that people thought the game had passed him by, he had completely changed the identity of the program and had learned how to build a powerhouse without having to have a lineup filled with lottery picks and Top 10 recruits like he had his first 10 years at UNC. Like you see in football the trends usually fade and the pendulum usually ends up swinging back the other way. The spread and zone read was the new trend and then Michigan won a championship beating up teams in the trenches and running the ball. I think the Steph Curry and Klay Thompson Warriors made everyone think the future of basketball was spacing and shooting 3’s but Roy had a pretty damn good run during that by playing with 2 post players and playing inside out and making rebounding the priority
 
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