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Your whole statement is incorrect. My breakdown of the play was the correct breakdown, the break was over. I have never said anything different here and Roy did not reference that play.

My post here in regards to the secondary break is referencing that I diagramed how it works. Because that was what was asked in that original post. You diagramed how you saw that play, which was wrong. And it's all in that thread for everyone to see. You putting words in my mouth now and trying to confuse the issue here versus what was stated in that thread won't work.

Regarding Marcus at the point, you have moved the goal posts again. I said Marcus should play some point. I also said Marcus runs the point on the break at times, even when Berry is in. Where did I ever say different? I didn't, but you say I did and in your world that's good enough for you.

So now that you have got that straight, let's get to the reason you were called out for the millionth time for more of your bs. Quote the post that backs up what you say @heelmanwilm said. If you cannot we can assume that you lied, again. Don't veer, swerve or dodge. Just quote the post or shut up.
As you know, I broke down the play right here, sparky:
https://northcarolina.forums.rivals...us-to-pg-start-hicks.32880/page-3#post-451098
The breakdown is 100% correct. You said that it isn't. Thus, you are wrong.

You've also changed your story from that original thread, where you said, and I quote:
"the pass and bucket was done in half court. And this further helps illustrate the majority point why Marcus is the better point guard for this team".

The fact is the pass was made in a Secondary Break and Marcus was playing the 2 (as Roy and I both said). And it in no way indicated that Marcus was a better PG (again, as Roy and I both said).

Bottom line is you have not called out any bs because there is none to call out. You are entitled to your opinion about who's the better PG (misguided though that may be), but you are not entitled to revise history about the nature of a play or misrepresent what I posted. And changing your story once you get busted is just weak...
 
This whole argument is ridiculous and comes down to semantics. Essentially, its equivalent to a "Wide Receiver Reverse Pass" football play where the QB hands off to the WR, who then throws the ball back to the QB downfield. Technically, the QB is the QB and the WR the WR since that's how they started the play, and how they're listed in the program/depth chart, etc. But anyone with a brain is able to tell that on that particular play, the QB role was played by the WR (i.e. he was the one throwing the ball, similar to a PG in basketball) and the WR role was played by the QB (running down the field and catching a pass).
 
Yes I did try to post at DI for a while, 92. What I didn't do was disparage other Heel fans while I was there. And I found out I was no longer welcome when my posts didn't coincide with Gastineau's, DookieJay's, etc... The straw that broke the camel's back was when I posted a video of Rivers walking about a dozen times and Z getting shoved in the back in the loss at Chapel Hill. Despite irrefutable visual proof, I was a pariah thereafter.

As for every person'a opinion carrying the same weight, I couldn't agree more. But some posters know significantly more about basketball than others, Gary and Dave being examples of the former, you and Billy the latter. So I tend to give their posts more credence than yours or Billy's.

And you two can be every bit as cantankerous as Gary can be.
 
Yes I did try to post at DI for a while, 92. What I didn't do was disparage other Heel fans while I was there. And I found out I was no longer welcome when my posts didn't coincide with Gastineau's, DookieJay's, etc... The straw that broke the camel's back was when I posted a video of Rivers walking about a dozen times and Z getting shoved in the back in the loss at Chapel Hill. Despite irrefutable visual proof, I was a pariah thereafter.

As for every person'a opinion carrying the same weight, I couldn't agree more. But some posters know significantly more about basketball than others, Gary and Dave being examples of the former, you and Billy the latter. So I tend to give their posts more credence than yours or Billy's.

And you two can be every bit as cantankerous as Gary can be.
Whoaa Nellie. You aren't saying the refs ever made a mistake that affected us negatively are you? Get ready for the avalanche cause it's coming.
 
The breakdown is 100% correct. You said that it isn't. Thus, you are wrong.

My break down is there for you. Mine is correct, yours is wrong.

You've also changed your story from that original thread, where you said, and I quote:
"the pass and bucket was done in half court. And this further helps illustrate the majority point why Marcus is the better point guard for this team".


You have a problem understanding what you read it looks like. That was the majority opinion in that thread. I never said it was my opinion. If you recall, I have always been and always will be excited about Berry as our point.

The fact is the pass was made in a Secondary Break and Marcus was playing the 2 (as Roy and I both said). And it in no way indicated that Marcus was a better PG (again, as Roy and I both said).

The pass was made in half court, Marcus was working at the 1 at that time. Roy never said anything about it.

Bottom line is you have not called out any bs because there is none to call out. You are entitled to your opinion about who's the better PG (misguided though that may be), but you are not entitled to revise history about the nature of a play or misrepresent what I posted. And changing your story once you get busted is just weak...

The real bottom line here is you were called out for lying, again. And you don't know as much about basketball as you let on. You also have no real sources that tell you anything you can't get from the million and one sites and sports news outlets.
 
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Yes I did try to post at DI for a while, 92. What I didn't do was disparage other Heel fans while I was there. And I found out I was no longer welcome when my posts didn't coincide with Gastineau's, DookieJay's, etc... The straw that broke the camel's back was when I posted a video of Rivers walking about a dozen times and Z getting shoved in the back in the loss at Chapel Hill. Despite irrefutable visual proof, I was a pariah thereafter.

As for every person'a opinion carrying the same weight, I couldn't agree more. But some posters know significantly more about basketball than others, Gary and Dave being examples of the former, you and Billy the latter. So I tend to give their posts more credence than yours or Billy's.

And you two can be every bit as cantankerous as Gary can be.
Yes you did disparage other posters. You got upset with a poster their who jumped into a "Roy turned it down" thread to turn the jokes on K a little. It upset you that he/she came into their house and did that. Somehow you thought it gave UNC posters a bad name when they defended Roy at DI. As far as I'm concerned you are two faced and don't have an opinion you can call your own anyway. Unless just typing 'Agreed' to everything on Radar is considered your opinion.
 
How in the hades did this thread get back to the Primary/Secondary Break topic? Talk about beating a dead horse until it is nothing but a greasy spot. It's suppose to be about cheating refs.
 
Whoaa Nellie. You aren't saying the refs ever made a mistake that affected us negatively are you? Get ready for the avalanche cause it's coming.

As Nonsensical as a pack pride poster! able to misrepresent entire ideas in a single word! Look! Down On the board! Is it a troll? NO! Is it gary poasting as someone else? NO! It's.......CAPTAINNNNNNNN HYPERRRRRRRBOLEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! Strange poaster from another message board who came to Radar with lack of reasoning and common sense FAR BEYOND THAT OF A
DI TROLL! Captain Hyperbole- who can misrepresent your idea in any thread, warp rational thinking with his bare fingers, And who, disguised as heelfan 58, an "objective" radar poaster, fights the never ending battle for straw men, exxagerations and the GARY WAYYYY!!!

Scarey i can remember all that. Guess i'm showing my age.
 
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As Nonsensical as a pack pride poster! able to misrepresent entire ideas in a single word! Look! Down On the board! Is it a troll? NO! Is it gary poasting as someone else? NO! It's.......CAPTAINNNNNNNN HYPERRRRRRRBOLEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! Strange poaster from another message board who came to Radar with lack of reasoning and common sense FAR BEYOND THAT OF A
DI TROLL! Captain Hyperbole- who can misrepresent your idea in any thread, warp rational thinking with his bare fingers! And who, disguised as heelfan 58, an "objective" radar poaster, fights the never ending battle for straw men, exxagerations and the GARY WAYYYY!!!
Blind conviction. The path to stupidity.
 
If bob knight were to poast


As Nonsensical as a pack pride poster! able to misrepresent entire ideas in a single word! Look! Down On the board! Is it a troll? NO! Is it gary poasting as someone else? NO! It's.......CAPTAINNNNNNNN HYPERRRRRRRBOLEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! Strange poaster from another message board who came to Radar with lack of reasoning and common sense FAR BEYOND THAT OF A
DI TROLL! Captain Hyperbole- who can misrepresent your idea in any thread, warp rational thinking with his bare fingers! And who, disguised as heelfan 58, an "objective" radar poaster, fights the never ending battle for straw men, exxagerations and the GARY WAYYYY!!!

Geez man, you enjoy sparking a fight or what? It is bad enough that 2 posters have a issue with each other but your egging things on only makes things worse.
 
Yes you did disparage other posters. You got upset with a poster their who jumped into a "Roy turned it down" thread to turn the jokes on K a little. It upset you that he/she came into their house and did that. Somehow you thought it gave UNC posters a bad name when they defended Roy at DI. As far as I'm concerned you are two faced and don't have an opinion you can call your own anyway. Unless just typing 'Agreed' to everything on Radar is considered your opinion.

Says one of the OOTB, holier than thou clique, who rush to JCD every post made by one of the others. I couldn't care less what your opinion of me is because it means little to nothing to me. You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the arse. You keep on thinking that you know more about basketball than Gary if it makes you feel better. I think most posters here, outside of the 4 member clique, would disagree.

By all means, you keep up your childish personal attacks.
 
Says one of the OOTB, holier than thou clique, who rush to JCD every post made by one of the others. I couldn't care less what your opinion of me is because it means little to nothing to me. You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the arse. You keep on thinking that you know more about basketball than Gary if it makes you feel better. I think most posters here, outside of the 4 member clique, would disagree.

By all means, you keep up your childish personal attacks.
Awesome. Can I count on earning an ignore from you then? I want to be like the rest of my 4 member clique.
 
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As Nonsensical as a pack pride poster! able to misrepresent entire ideas in a single word! Look! Down On the board! Is it a troll? NO! Is it gary poasting as someone else? NO! It's.......CAPTAINNNNNNNN HYPERRRRRRRBOLEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! Strange poaster from another message board who came to Radar with lack of reasoning and common sense FAR BEYOND THAT OF A
DI TROLL! Captain Hyperbole- who can misrepresent your idea in any thread, warp rational thinking with his bare fingers, And who, disguised as heelfan 58, an "objective" radar poaster, fights the never ending battle for straw men, exxagerations and the GARY WAYYYY!!!

Scarey i can remember all that. Guess i'm showing my age.
Captain Hyperbole....I LIKE that. Can I use it? This is one of your best come backs ever. "straw men" "bare fingers" "the Gary wayyy".
 
Says one of the OOTB, holier than thou clique, who rush to JCD every post made by one of the others. I couldn't care less what your opinion of me is because it means little to nothing to me.
If you really don't care then why do you check out the OOTB board and other rivals sites to see what the "clique" is posting?

By all means, you keep up your childish personal attacks.
I think one could consider calling a group of posters a clique, in an obviously demeaning way, a childish personal attack. That's just my opinion though.
 
If you really don't care then why do you check out the OOTB board and other rivals sites to see what the "clique" is posting?

Don't flatter yourself. I visit other boards because I like reading other opinions. Fact is, I'd spend a lot more time on OOTB if it weren't for the clique. As for DI, I visit there every so often just to get a good laugh. I'll occasionally "like" a Tar Heel fan's post but very rarely post there anymore.
 
I get the feeling he hates us . . . maybe, we should expect the discourtesy.
Can't bring myself to hate someone that I only know through a message board site. Besides, we're all Heels fans at heart, so I'm predisposed to like you guys. We just disagree on some things. No biggie. And that's my last post on this thread, it's run it's long and convoluted course.
 
Don't flatter yourself. I visit other boards because I like reading other opinions.
It seems like you like those opinions only when they agree with you.

I'd spend a lot more time on OOTB if it weren't for the clique.
Again with the childish name calling?

I think the biggest issue with you is that sometimes you can take things too seriously. Just lighten up some. No need to take things so seriously all of the time. There is only one poster that I have an issue with and that's not you. Your good with me, even if you don't feel the same way.
 
Yes I did try to post at DI for a while, 92. What I didn't do was disparage other Heel fans while I was there. And I found out I was no longer welcome when my posts didn't coincide with Gastineau's, DookieJay's, etc... The straw that broke the camel's back was when I posted a video of Rivers walking about a dozen times and Z getting shoved in the back in the loss at Chapel Hill. Despite irrefutable visual proof, I was a pariah thereafter.

As for every person'a opinion carrying the same weight, I couldn't agree more. But some posters know significantly more about basketball than others, Gary and Dave being examples of the former, you and Billy the latter. So I tend to give their posts more credence than yours or Billy's.

And you two can be every bit as cantankerous as Gary can be.
What's funny (in a sad and ironic way) is when some people on a dadgummed UNC board will try to make you a pariah for pointing out that very sort of thing :rolleyes::confused:... even when it's something obvious to most of the rest of the world.

As for being cantankerous, I really don't want to be, Arch...
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but... when someone questions my cred... or tries to tell me 2+2=5...
or tries to sell me sh** and wants me to tell em it doesn't stink, well...
sometimes my efforts at pacifism don't quite succeed ;)
 
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Geez man, you enjoy sparking a fight or what? It is bad enough that 2 posters have a issue with each other but your egging things on only makes things worse.
Nah... see my response above.
Well, OK, it has some entertainment value... but I'd rather talk hoops and 'cruitin' with good UNC folks like Arch and yourself.

BTW: I believe our colleague @heelmanwilm is the one who enjoys stirring the pot... just a guess...;)
 
What's funny (in a sad and ironic way) is when some people on a dadgummed UNC board will try to make you a pariah for pointing out that very sort of thing :rolleyes::confused:... even when it's something obvious to most of the rest of the world.

As for being cantankerous, I really don't want to be, Arch...
ukT5em.gif

but... when someone questions my cred... or tries to tell me 2+2=5...
or tries to sell me sh** and wants me to tell em it doesn't stink, well...
sometimes my efforts at pacifism don't quite succeed ;)
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I've read enough to figure out the clique's modus operandi. It's not worth the effort to engage.

Well its all about trying to have fun. its as diverse a group as u can imagine. Noone agrees on anything but noone takes themselves NEAR as seriously as in here either.
 
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