Link above is a sign that the "latest idiotic plan" actually had no such effect. People weren't sitting on their butt collecting covid relief in lieu of working.
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dude, that linkage means nothing. Far too limited a framework and too little time passed to make such a determination.
Hey @blazers , we hit a pandemic low of new unemployment claims and it completely coincides with most states ending extra benefits.
Funny how everyone but you knew that would happen.
Funny how everyone but you knew that would happen.
The bo jangles here has had to reduce hours due to lack of staffing. They’re only open 7-3 and business is sporadic. The chik fil a directly across the street has two lines wrapped around the building all day it seems and still has enough staffing to put someone in a cow suit waving to traffic. Starting pay at both places is the same. I think we’re finding out who provides better jobs.
hold on, I'm good at this. Is it McDonald's?
No but seriously, maybe what chik-fil-A is providing is better chicken.
And who has the best food for lunch breaks. But seriously, I've heard that they are a really good place to work for. You just have to put up with those fringe idiots who want to keep bashing them about the gay marriage thing.
there’s two Thai places here we loved to go to. When Covid hit the first one actually expanded their operation within weeks into a store front catering to online ordering, express takeout and curbside delivery to your car and they were killing it from day one. The other place did away with half their seating put up plexiglass shields and pared down their menu drastically. No online ordering and you had to stand outside if you wanted to go food They were closed within six months despite having every bit as good of food as the other place.
@dadika13 3 months out now:
States that cut off of jobless aid see no surge of job seekers
In states that cut off the $300 check, the workforce — the number of people who either have a job or are looking for one — has risen no more than it has in the states that maintained the payment.
www.pbs.org
An analysis of state-by-state data by The Associated Press found that workforces in the 25 states that maintained the $300 payment actually grew slightly more from May through September, according to data released Friday, than they did in the 25 states that cut off the payment early, most of them in June.
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Yet the world still can't find help@dadika13 3 months out now:
States that cut off of jobless aid see no surge of job seekers
In states that cut off the $300 check, the workforce — the number of people who either have a job or are looking for one — has risen no more than it has in the states that maintained the payment.
An analysis of state-by-state data by The Associated Press found that workforces in the 25 states that maintained the $300 payment actually grew slightly more from May through September, according to data released Friday, than they did in the 25 states that cut off the payment early, most of them in June.
they still are, sitting on their butts in lieu of working. Because it was an idiotic plan. Want proof? They're still sitting on their butts in lieu of working....except for the under the table arrangements they've made. As you pointed out though, some have been sitting on their butts in lieu of working a little less than others. For whatever that's worth, which is not much.
As well as cost of services, cost of products, or one might say cost of everything across the board.
I know I cannot afford an $18 per hour person who know nothing about my craft without passing that along to the client. Not counting the $21 per hour man looking sideways about his skill level verses the entry level pay.
Taco Bell was recently hiring at $18 per hour. They still couldn't fill shifts. Locally, Noone can find help at all. It's crazy
or the mechanization/automation will have to keep on developing, in which case the dems will, as usual, weep and moan that he rich have to take care of the 'unfortunate'.
^^^pretty vague. I'm not in favor of 'cutting' or supplying unless that's what naturally occurs within the framework of free enterprise. Labor can price itself out of the market just as business can. If it takes two earners to maintain a household, then they can happily join the great group of double-earners that I was in when I was supporting a family.
And just to make a gratuitous separate point, I would NEVER have sat on my ass when work was available and nothing would have been considered beneath me. I've been between jobs but I have never applied for or collected a dime of unemployment, because THAT is what would have been beneath me.
It would be hilariously ironic, if it wasn't so pathetically sad, that we tell people they SHOULD sit on their asses...even enabling their ability to do so...while begging them to stop doing so even to the tune of suggesting that they should be payed to stop doing so. That's dems for you. What are you gonna do though, when fresh illegal dems are being imported by the thousands and thousands?
I hope you know that automation will continue to develop regardless...
Its weird when people are all for market based solutions, EXCEPT when it comes to labor.
* yes of course, and it should...but lack of available/affordable labor accelerates the process.
** are you agreeing with me? Because I said nothing indicating that the market shouldn't determine labor and everything else as much as we are willing to allow that. Some of us being far more willing than others.
all due to a virus with a <1% death rate. dumbest nation on earth.
Not really. The marginal cost of automated labor is always lower than human labor, assuming the technology is sufficiently developed to the point where there aren’t excessive maintenance costs. It is being implemented at the rate that technological development allows.
Maybe. And market based solutions are great when there is symmetrical information, and a lack of externalities. Those qualifiers are much more important than free market fundamentalists are ever willing to acknowledge. The obvious example being the difference between the social and private cost of carbon emissions.
* I just disagree with that and I don't think you thought this through. Technology develops only as quickly as there is a market for it, and the lack of available/affordable labor strongly drives that market. There is the going rate for labor in the real world, but there is the free market rate which isn't necessarily being allowed to find its own level.
** That's what laws are for, to indirectly impose the symmetry you speak of. No one that I'm aware of has said that free enterprise should not be subject to laws that serve all individuals as a whole. The laws that are wrong are those that favor one sector over another in order to affect someone's notion of fairness or other such idiocy. Then again I might not be understanding you perfectly, please advise me if so.
a) lighten up
b) Americans have been learning since the mid 2000s that consumerism is an expensive habit and being single-income or being choosy about employment is achievable if you make sacrifices.
and so many of those not in the workforce (I am not devaluing them or minimizing their deaths, just tying that to the point). Go back and look at all the attempts to make the death rate more, in impact if not actual number, than what it has been...if you want to see REALLY dumb.
My wife and I just had this argument yesterday. She said the correct spelling was “weck”, because of the name of the roll the sandwich is made on. I said I had always spelled it “wek”….
She’s right. It’s short for something like “kummelweck” iirc
Can't even win an argument with his wife
Their homechips dipped in au jus was the heat!!!!!!
A few caregiver grannies just stopped caregiving due to pandemic (either from dying or distancing). Couple that with fewer affordable child-care options (some chicken/egg here), and more moms are opting to just stay home.
Childcare has been really difficult to find. Finding a nanny has been a haul... Daycares have giant wait-list. Tons of women dropped out of the work force during the pandemic.
so stupid (the link). Could it be any more obvious that the 'new normal' is nothing more than the inevitable result of government taking us baby step-by-giant stride further into a socialistic culture? The concept of individuals determining their own lives is becoming more and more meaningless as government does more and more of the determining.
Many aspects of our lives are self-balancing. In business, the relationship between management and labor is naturally self-balancing and provides an impetus for self-improvement. When the government takes sides or otherwise sticks its nose in where it doesn't belong, that balance is disrupted, which causes the government to decide to become even more involved and the dimwits among us to say 'See? Told you we needed more government, not less'.
Well, that sure sounds like a few posters on here, but I'd have to argue that comparing them to "dimwits" only serves to insult the dimwits.
