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Now think about this... Gronk and JuJu get one game for their hits - yet Bozo gives Brady 4 games for maybe having knowledge of an equipment violation. That's the clown show we're dealing with right now.
Player punishments are very ambiguous under Goodell. It feels like they are using the South Park "Margaritaville" episode method of cutting off a chicken's head and letting him run around until he lands on a certain number of games.
 
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I think Gronk should get more than them.

They should get none, and Gronk should get one.

Now think about this... Gronk and JuJu get one game for their hits - yet Bozo gives Brady 4 games for maybe having knowledge of an equipment violation. That's the clown show we're dealing with right now.

I hate Brady, but no way should he have been suspended for four games for that crap.
 
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How long before Tyrod Taylor plays the race card on this one im telling you its coming!
Not before you do, apparently.

Y'all know I enjoy pulling for the Patriots (mostly because everyone else hates them), but that Gronk hit is one of the dirtiest things I've seen in any sport. He could've killed that dude hitting him like that.
Agreed. That could've been waaaaay worse (the injury and the punishment).
 
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Think of the quarterbacks the Browns have passed on just in the past two drafts - Goff, Wentz and Watson. That's a perfect example of why they are among the worst franchises in any sport.
 
Think of the quarterbacks the Browns have passed on just in the past two drafts - Goff, Wentz and Watson. That's a perfect example of why they are among the worst franchises in any sport.
And all of them would have looked horrible in Cleveland because they have no talent to surround a QB. You have to have at least one group (OL, RB, WR) that is at least average for a rookie QB to succeed. They don't have that. The GM recognized that and was building up some picks/talent to help a young QB succeed.
 
I don't really follow the NFL much. How is Myles Garrett doing? He was considered a stud coming out of college.
 
To say it's too early to judge those picks would be a huge understatement.
If you can’t make noise in 2 years on this team then you probably not going to be able to at all.... I like Garrett, Kizer and Njoki( TE from Miami) but don’t think anyone from the last 2 will ever be major contributors
 
If you can’t make noise in 2 years on this team then you probably not going to be able to at all.... I like Garrett, Kizer and Njoki( TE from Miami) but don’t think anyone from the last 2 will ever be major contributors
That's got more to do with the coaching I think. Look what happened with the Rams. They were a joke on offense last year. Now their QB looks like one of the best in the league. The Browns have no players and no coaches. They fired the guy who has put them in position to have talent (and cap room), but kept a horrible coach. Only in Cleveland.
 
I don't really follow the NFL much. How is Myles Garrett doing? He was considered a stud coming out of college.
It was and is dumbbbbbbbbbbb to draft a defensive lineman at #1 (or 2 or 3) overall if you don't have a franchise QB on your roster.

Thought experiment:
- Yes, Garrett was hyped up to be a can't-miss, sure-thing DL. Totally agree with that assessment
- Let's assume for a moment that Garrett outperforms even his gaudy hype and goes on to be a future Hall of Fame DLman.
- Is HOFer Garrett going to make Cleveland a Super Bowl contender? Nope. Is it gonna do anything more than maybe add 1-2 wins per season? Nope.
- now, consider Cleveland instead drafts a QB who turns into a very solid (Top 8 in the league) QB.
- Is the play of said QB going to make Cleveland a Super Bowl contender? Quite possibly.
- Is the play of said QB going to make Cleveland a playoff team? Yes, almost assuredly.

This is a QB-driven league. If you don't have a good QB, you're going nowhere. Drafting a DLman #1 overall when the Browns have so many more pressing needs (i.e. QB) is dumb. Look at what the Rams did the past four seasons before this season. They probably had the best DL from top to bottom in the whole league. Did it do a damn thing for them? No, because their offense was bad.
 
It was and is dumbbbbbbbbbbb to draft a defensive lineman at #1 (or 2 or 3) overall if you don't have a franchise QB on your roster.

Thought experiment:
- Yes, Garrett was hyped up to be a can't-miss, sure-thing DL. Totally agree with that assessment
- Let's assume for a moment that Garrett outperforms even his gaudy hype and goes on to be a future Hall of Fame DLman.
- Is HOFer Garrett going to make Cleveland a Super Bowl contender? Nope. Is it gonna do anything more than maybe add 1-2 wins per season? Nope.
- now, consider Cleveland instead drafts a QB who turns into a very solid (Top 8 in the league) QB.
- Is the play of said QB going to make Cleveland a Super Bowl contender? Quite possibly.
- Is the play of said QB going to make Cleveland a playoff team? Yes, almost assuredly.

This is a QB-driven league. If you don't have a good QB, you're going nowhere. Drafting a DLman #1 overall when the Browns have so many more pressing needs (i.e. QB) is dumb. Look at what the Rams did the past four seasons before this season. They probably had the best DL from top to bottom in the whole league. Did it do a damn thing for them? No, because their offense was bad.

The one exception here is Von Miller for the Broncos. He led them to a super bowl win despite having a rotating sack of garbage at QB (Manning and Osweiler).

But agreed that the Brownies need to get a QB before they try to do anything else because the Broncos situation was an anomaly they won't recreate. And it doesn't look like Kizer is the answer.
 
Wow. Huge win for the Panthers. It really tightens up the playoff race.

If Rams beat the Eagles, and Seattle wins, the NFC will have three 10-3 teams and three 9-4.

ETA: like I said when it happened, the Panthers stupid loss to the Bears is gonna come back to cost them.
 
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