OOTB Carolina football discussion thread
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If it does eventually expand, I would be fine with 6 - 5 champions from power 5 conferences and 1 at large team. 8 would be to many. I still prefer 4 though. Just my opinion.
Those odds were twice as unlikely in the BCS era -- where only two teams got in -- and yet it happened anyway.
The first two sentences are statements of fact. We can agree there. However, I disagree that it would make the season any less exciting to allow teams with more than 1 loss into a playoff.
People keep saying this as if it's self-evident. How exactly would letting a two-loss team into the playoff diminish the importance of the regular season? Every game would still matter because teams have to compete with other teams to earn a playoff berth. It's no different at all from the current competition among one-loss teams to secure one of the four berths available. One-loss teams have been left out of the playoff every year since its inception and an expanded format would experience the same thing.
I love college football. More games means more games for fans and would bring in more money for the NCAA and participating universities. There really isn't much downside IMO.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one, which is fine. You are entitled to your opinions on the playoff issue. As I said above, I would be ok with going to 6 teams, but no more than that.
So if the excluded conference champ, and the next highest team were included in a six team playoff in the first three years of the playoffs, here's who would've gotten in...
2014: Baylor 11-1, TCU 11-1
2015: Iowa 12-1, Stanford 11-2
2016: Penn State 11-2, Oklahoma 10-2
Those were all pretty damn good teams. You could give the no. 1 & 2 teams a bye, which wouldn't diminish the regular season at all, as they would want to keep their position; they couldn't ease up like the NFL does and rest players.
ETA: Last year was the first year of the three seasons where a top 8 team had 3 losses. Eight teams might be too much but I would be for increasing it to six for sure.
2014: Baylor 11-1, TCU 11-1
2015: Iowa 12-1, Stanford 11-2
2016: Penn State 11-2, Oklahoma 10-2
Those were all pretty damn good teams. You could give the no. 1 & 2 teams a bye, which wouldn't diminish the regular season at all, as they would want to keep their position; they couldn't ease up like the NFL does and rest players.
ETA: Last year was the first year of the three seasons where a top 8 team had 3 losses. Eight teams might be too much but I would be for increasing it to six for sure.
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If they do decide to expand, my guess is that they go right to 8, although 6 makes perfect sense. 5 conference champs and 1 at large team. Committee could then determine the seeds for all of the teams and decide who the at large team is. I agree with you that the top 2 seeds would get byes.
Both sides have made pretty good arguments. I'm pretty indifferent on it. But this is coming from a guy that was perfectly fine with the pre-BCS format where we could have had more than one national champion. I always liked the debates of "Colorado would have beaten GT if they had played" and so on.
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when 3-5 bowl games meant something, those are the days i miss.
other than extra practice, bowl games are meaningless now.
I think most would agree that there are way to many bowl games right now. It's getting to the point where teams with 5 wins get bowl bids simply because they need to fill the spots.
If we're being honest, the Power 5 conference championship games are essentially tournament games. The NCAA could re-brand them as such without changing much of anything except the name.
And yes, there are way too many bowl games. I might watch them because I'm a big CFB fan but for the average viewer they just dilute the product.
And yes, there are way too many bowl games. I might watch them because I'm a big CFB fan but for the average viewer they just dilute the product.
There may be too many from a viewing perspective, but they mean the world to a lot of seniors around the country who get to play one last game.
How the hell did we score 37?
Y'all know I really don't give much of a shit about Alabama right? At least not compared to Carolina. Sure, I like when Bama wins, but I really don't give much of a rip. None of y'all pull for a school a family member attended, secondary to supporting Carolina?
I was so adamant about them beating Clemson last year because I had $100 invested in it lol.
I was so adamant about them beating Clemson last year because I had $100 invested in it lol.
And all of that is to say, me supporting staying at a 4-team playoff has zero to do with liking Alabama. That wouldn't make sense either way because regardless of how you draw up the post-season, Bama is going to make it.
Nope, I just legitimately think it's best for college football. Is it best, specifically, for Carolina Football? Probably not. But I love college football altogether.
Most Alabama fans are.
Anyone watch the Moo game last night? Did Swoff screw Lolstate over again?
Yep, it was the rayyfs, it was the rayyfs!
But wait.... they didn't urinate on the zebras as well? I am dissapoint.
They had nothing left in the tank after peeing in the bleachers.
This may be the most apt video description of Moo fans in existence:
Thanks for posting THN. My wife always thought my rants calling moo fans white trash redneck scum was just a rivalry hate thing but after watching those she agrees that they are disgusting humans.
Nah it's not just a rivalry thing. Lots of fans from all ACC teams will tell you State fans are the worst they've ever encountered while at C-F.
Not gonna lie I definitely flipped off the refs after the no-call on the facemask at the end of the UVA game.
lol but spitting on them though? They should use the video to go back and try to identify any party(s) who threw objects or spit on them and charge them with assault and/or battery.
lol but spitting on them though? They should use the video to go back and try to identify any party(s) who threw objects or spit on them and charge them with assault and/or battery.
In 2017, flipping the bird is pretty innocuous. It's a fan, in his seat and out of reach of the referees/players/fans/ "voicing" his displeasure with a not-harmful-to-others gesture. It's the same reason booing is acceptable.
Throwing stuff at the referees or players or coaches is NOT acceptable and should be punishable by law. Fans should voice their objections not display their objection through physical violence.
Agreed. It is punishable by law, if a prosecutor would choose to act on it. I don't know if that's ever going to happen though, unless someone is seriously injured
Moo converted a 4th and 10 at the end of the game but it was called back for an illegal shift. Finley threw a pick on the next play to end the game.
The call by the officials was correct (see below). But as usual, nothing is ever Moo's fault. It's always much easier to blame others than accept your own shortcomings. Such is the Moo mantra.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/11/4/16607632/illegal-shift-nc-state-clemson
Lol the funny thing is, their QB snapped the ball with plenty of time left on the play clock. Which means he should have made sure his guys were in position before snapping the ball. Basic fundamentals
Their big gripe is a catch was overturned. I didn't see that specific play as I was flipping to other games occasional. Their other big gripe is pass interference calls not going their way. They have no case with the PI argument. The officials established a "don't tug on the jersey and we'll let you play" mentality right from the beginning. On Clemson's first drive, the refs declined to call PI on separate plays where it could've been called.
That's good. I hate when these good players change their minds. That's one of the reasons I don't follow football recruiting that much.
Different strokes and all, but I find it infinitely more fun than hand-wringing for (literally) two years over whether 3 specific players commit to us, Duke, or Kentucky. I don't even follow basketball recruiting more than just from a 30,000 foot view and even I'm sick of hearing about Zion Williamson speculation.
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