OOTB Carolina football discussion thread
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Please let this be the year that the four team playoff fukks everybody over. Definitely a lot of games left and there will most likely be some upsets but Lots of talk about the following teams getting in: UGA, Bama, ND, and then one of the other four Big5 conference winners. How glorious would that be for three conference winners to get screwed? I would love it so Then maybe we finally get a 6 or 8 team playoff where all the conference champs get in.
Nope I LOVE the 4-team playoff. It's an amazing publicity generator for college football. It isn't going anywhere for a long, long time.
I love the 4 team playoff also. Hope they don't expand it to include more teams in the future. It's fine the way it is.
I say Let all the conference winners in the playoffs and either 1 or 3 wildcards. More money, more interest from other fans like me. I haven't even watched the last few years because I'm sick of seeing the same damn teams every year.
Nope. I Gave up on that years ago. It's extremely Boring to me.
The problem with your plan is it directly attacks the very thing that makes college football such a big draw:
Every game is a must-win.
That simple but powerful narrative is what makes college football so strong and such an enticing watch. No other sport in the world can boast such a claim. With the playoffs, now it's sorta "every game is a must-win but you may be able to get away with losing one game," but still, it's a powerful draw.
Shifting it to all 5 P5 conference winners and 3 wildcards really cheapens the product. And ADs, college presidents, and the CFP organization understand this. Bill Hancock, the executive director of the College Football Playoff has been adamant on every radio appearance he has done that the 4-team playoff is not changing.
If anyone gets screwed, I hope it's ND. If that happens to them enough then they will be forced to join the ACC so they can win a championship.
The same would be true in a single-game elimination post-season tournament. See: Division I FCS, Division II, and Division III NCAA Football.
The same Bill Hancock, executive director of the BCS, who was adamant in every media appearance he did that a 4-team playoff would never happen. More games = more money. Period. He already figured this out once, but just like the last time he's letting the process drag to give the appearance that it's really about the kids. Pffft.
But don't you know there will be a nuclear meltdown if 3 conferences are left out? Let's say Clemson gets in, but osu, Oklahoma are both 12-1 conference champs and get left out. The big10, big12 will freak out.
It doesn't have to be 8; 6 would be good with me. And the conf champ must at least be in the top 10 of the rankings (or some requirement along those lines) so that if somehow a 5-3 coastal winner wins the ACC, with an overall record is 8-5, they wouldn't qualify.
I don't know, imagine how epic the conference championship games would become if it was an automatic qualifier for a playoff spot... You still have to win your division and beat the best team in the conference. Also would make regular season conference games way bigger than they already are.
I don’t understand this logic.
Nfl ratings always dominate other sports despite having a deep playoff field.
The allure of having 8 teams in the play off would have even more fans engaged
Ya, agreed - but I don't see the SEC (aka Bama) agreeing to that, since they have an auto bid as it is with only 4 teams getting in anyways.
But the thing is that only 4 schools every year are happy that it's only 4 teams. While ADs like to have the "every game matters" there are so many of them that wish that their seasons weren't utterly meaningless once they lose a game or in some cases their second game. Allowing them a "back door" into the playoffs by winning their conference would allow for a team's games to still matter and be worth watching even after they've lost a game.
Having an automatic route into the playoff by winning your conference would also encourage even more big time OOC matchups early in the season because losing wouldn't ruin a teams chances of winning their conference, but would still be a possible resume builder for an at large bid.
The current format encourages (at least one) high-caliber OOC schedule as well. Look at Wisconsin. They could go undefeated this year and still might not make the playoff because their schedule is so bad.
Agreed. But the system we're talking about would encourage to load up on big OOC games because the experience of playing top level teams would improve their chances of going on to win their conference.
Not really. An 8-team system like y'all are proposing would come with 3 wildcards. That would discourage tough OOC scheduling even more because teams would want to load up on wins.
If that doesn't work with the selection committee now, then why would it work then?
Exactly. There is no reasonable argument against playoff expansion unless you're a closet Alabama fan.
FCS, which is about the same size as FBS, has a 24-team playoff with the top 8 teams getting a first-round bye. The participants and their seedings are chosen by -- wait for it -- the FCS Playoff Selection Committee.
The same post-season format works for all divisions of college basketball. And college baseball. And college soccer. And college tennis. And college bowling. And college beach volleyball. The NCAA has adopted the same post-season format for almost every sport it sanctions except FCS football, and the only reason FCS football hasn't done it is because the NCAA was stupid enough to outsource its biggest cash cow to a third party because herp-dee-derp.
Y'all have your opinion. I have mine. To me, going beyond 4 cheapens the regular season, and that's college football's strength.
Anyway, Carolina got a commitment last night from 4**** Wake Forest RB Devon Lawrence (yes, the younger brother of Clemson's Dexter). Huge pickup for us. He's the #13 player in N.C. We also picked up a commit from a 6'6" 3*** DE from Georgia, Nick Fulwider.
Those two commits jumped us from 53 to 43 in team rankings.
Anyway, Carolina got a commitment last night from 4**** Wake Forest RB Devon Lawrence (yes, the younger brother of Clemson's Dexter). Huge pickup for us. He's the #13 player in N.C. We also picked up a commit from a 6'6" 3*** DE from Georgia, Nick Fulwider.
Those two commits jumped us from 53 to 43 in team rankings.
Five years ago the national title game was a rematch of a game that had already been decided in the regular season. Spare me that awful rationale.
And?
It proves that arguments for the sanctity of the regular season are hollow. Not surprised that was lost on you.
The odds of the playoff system creating a regular season rematch in the championship game are slim to none. The 4 team playoff creates a situation where teams have to be nearly perfect in the regular season in order to qualify. More than 1 loss means no playoff. That's how it makes the regular season exciting.
Expanding the playoff would open the door for 2-loss or possibly even 3-loss teams getting in, thus diminishing the importance of the regular season.
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