this is also means two things to me...next year the built-in excuse might be the qb doesn’t have time and the rb can’t find creases...also, 2019 could be the year, folks.
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this is also means two things to me...next year the built-in excuse might be the qb doesn’t have time and the rb can’t find creases...also, 2019 could be the year, folks.
Yes, he did. The staff fell on their sword a bit in terms of this and sacrificed a couple meaningless wins to preserve some redshirts for OL guys who were showing out in practice.
He very well could have and I missed it. Haven't been over there much lately. Makes sense not to burn redshirts when our season was already in the crapper.
Nyheim Hines and Will Richardson are gone. Tim settle and both Edmunds bros are gone. RJ McIntosh and Kendrick Norton are also gone early to nfl.
https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/player-stat/fumbles
Chazz tied for 12th thru 16th w 7 fumbles, but at least he recovered all but two. OL acted like he slept w their girlfriends at times, but there were lots of moments where the ball just fell out of his hands.
Former NFL QB coaches on this site, what's up and how can he improve this?
Chazz tied for 12th thru 16th w 7 fumbles, but at least he recovered all but two. OL acted like he slept w their girlfriends at times, but there were lots of moments where the ball just fell out of his hands.
Former NFL QB coaches on this site, what's up and how can he improve this?
Gut feeling / opinion here: CS12 isn't the guy. The no-reason fumbles you mentioned were the most concerning to me. Being a RS Fr isn't an excuse. Look at Jake Fromm and Tua (and other QBs in college, current and past).
Got a commit from a high 3*** LB Matthew Flint from Alabama. He was a Tennessee commit. Already, Thigpen is paying dividends. And... Flint brings SPEED because he used to be a WR. Speed is something our LBers have lacked for 5-6 years now, IMO.
I expect more commits in the coming week (hopefully...)
Any thoughts on who starts at QB next year? Looks like we are VERY limited.
I knew this the moment I saw that weird soccer throw-in style pass he attempted in the duke game (that was picked off). He’s not the guy.
I don't think anyone knows, including the staff, which is scary. But I think it's still Surratt's job to lose. He has the higher ceiling than Elliott.... but I don't buy the talk that we flat-out can't win with Elliott at the helm. The Pitt game proved that that isn't true. If he can just act as a facilitator to the playmakers around him, and not make mistakes, we could certainly do fairly well.
That being said, though, Surratt has the higher ceiling of the two of those guys. But to me, he also has the highest floor. When he looked bad, he looked really bad. Yes I know there was a lot of extenuating circumstances like bad OL play, constant roster shuffling due to injuries, Chazz being banged up, etc.
TL;DR version.... I think Fedora will roll with both Elliott and Surratt to start the season, unfortunately. I think Ruder should be given every chance to win the job, though. @nctransplant did you ever go down to Norton to see him play?
I tried to dance around it and be diplomatic in my above poast, but I appreciate your candor. I think that he (and our fanbase) have fallen victim to his hype, which was a byproduct of his great HS play but also a poor level of competition (he played at East Lincoln, I believe). He and the fanbase both expect too much from himself.
But, here's to hoping he steps his game up and takes the reigns, or at least spurs on the competition to make another QB better. I just want the team to win. If he proves me wrong, awesome!
Ohhhh buddy, you and me both. Let's figure out how to get a TV going next year.
Saw him once. He's a helluva athlete. My only worry is the leap from small(tiny) time football to big time college football. Our location makes for some very small schools so his exposure to being surrounded by and chased by athletes as good as and better than him is limited. The Tar Heels and others saw something in him so I'm hopeful. He's attending spring semester at UNC so we should get some idea of how he's adjusting.
Not UNC related but thought you folks should know that Nebraska has experienced a state-wide orgasm since the signing of Frost.
Nope, I wouldn't be shocked one bit. I need to watch Fortin's tape. I don't have a good feel for him.
This is my worry as well. It's pretty apparent from his tape that his level of competition is low. Same kinda deal I was talking about above with Surratt.
Frost is either going to make Nebraska nationally relevant again, or he's going to fall flat on his face. There will be no in between. Honestly, if he fails there, Nebraska might just be done forever lol. Sorta a la Indiana in hoops.
off-topic from UNC, but everyone down here in Georgia thinks UGA is a lock to get back to the SECCG next season.
Ehhh... not so fast my friend. Roquan Smith declared this morning. So now, due to graduation and going pro, Georgia loses soooo many of their best playmakers -- Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, Trenton Thompson, Javon Wims, Davin Bellamy, Domonick Sanders, etc. etc. They lose A LOT.
The SEC East is really bad though, so who knows.
Ehhh... not so fast my friend. Roquan Smith declared this morning. So now, due to graduation and going pro, Georgia loses soooo many of their best playmakers -- Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, Trenton Thompson, Javon Wims, Davin Bellamy, Domonick Sanders, etc. etc. They lose A LOT.
The SEC East is really bad though, so who knows.
I think they have two top 5 running backs coming in with Zamir White and James Cook, so that doesn't hurt.
It surely does not hurt, no.I think they have two top 5 running backs coming in with Zamir White and James Cook, so that doesn't hurt.
A couple of those fumbles were the result of bad snaps, like the 21-yard "sack" against Louisville. Statistically those are credited against the QB. Another one or two were the result of bad exchanges on the read option. That happens when you have a first-year quarterback trying to mesh with a first-year running back. Again, those are scored against the QB statistically. I'm concerned about CS's decision making in general but not particularly concerned about the fumbles. We only lost 6 as a team all last season.
You just cited two national-championship caliber offenses as proof that inexperience isn't an excuse for QB fumbles. Neither of them even rely on the read-option like UNC and Tua only played a fraction of the snaps Surratt did. The list @blazers poasted is littered with good QBs on good teams -- Darnold, Rosen, Lamar Jackson, Stidham -- who struggled as much with ball security as Chazz. C'mon, man.
Regarding the list with Darnold, Rosen, Lamar, etc is that those guys probably played 13 games, while Chazz played 5 whole games with one half at Louisville and maybe a quarter each of VT/Miami. No more than 7 games. Of the 7 fumbles, at least he only lost 2. Darnold and Stidham played 14 games due to conf championship gms.
This wasn't gripped or secured vs LVille (great gm from surratt otherwise) https://www.clippituser.tv/c/dwnqpm
Understood. Again, my real issue is with the decision making that led to some of the fumbles. He simply pressed too much and it will be up to him to correct that if he wants to have a shot at being the starter.
My bad. There was definitely a game where we had an especially bad snap/fumble but my memory is failing me.
Yeah, it's not a completely appropriate example, relative to our situation, but it's still worth noting. And honestly, I cannot quantify my opinion with specific stats because it's just a gut feel I have that we've yet to find "the guy" for QB1.
I'm 110% cool with being dead wrong, though. I just want us to win!
Clemson returns their whole D-Line. You gotta think they're one of the four way-too-early favorites to make the playoff. Their rotational crossover is Duke (in Clemson). They do have a Week 2 date at Kyle Field vs. Texas A&M........ damn what a matchup. I'm jealous. What a trip for the Clemson faithful. Would love for Carolina to schedule a home-and-home with A&M. You'd be hard-pressed to meet nicer away fans than A&M's.
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Or here ^ is the other from VT - nobody touches him. He's going to get better in every way from yr to yr, but stuff like this doesn't look like a mechanics or decision-making or timing issue, pure WTF type issue that I don't understand.
Or here ^ is the other from VT - nobody touches him. He's going to get better in every way from yr to yr, but stuff like this doesn't look like a mechanics or decision-making or timing issue, pure WTF type issue that I don't understand.
ACC Schedule comes out at 2 p.m. tomorrow. If we get a little luck with the order/arrangement of our schedule, it could really set up for a fairly manageable schedule for us. Our crossover is at Syracuse. Could certainly be worse, but also certainly is a loseable game.
Need to pick another game and try to get a lot of OOTB to join the tailgate crew.
That's what we said last year.
<---felt like this thread was overdue for an emoji (hey Rivals, bring back the old ones!)
UCF would be the logical choice because it's the only home game in the first 3 weeks of the season. That's significant because they announce the kickoff times of the first 3 games during the summer, as opposed to announcing it 12 days before like they do week 9 - 12. Which will provide people who have to fly an opportunity to plan accordingly.
It would also be the logical choice because it's in the warmer part of the year, but tix still will be plentiful because UCF doesn't really move the meter for our fanbase, even though they were undefeated last year (I could be wrong on this. It's a guess).
This is trueThat's what we said last year.
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