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Hospitals have been intentionally killing people for the pay-off they get from the government.

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Seiler is one of the few patients who has lived to tell her story about what she said she witnessed on the inside with COVID-19 hospital treatment protocols.

“It became clear to me that people are not dying in hospitals from COVID. They are dying from these protocols,” Seiler told The Epoch Times.

Seiler went in for a monoclonal antibody infusion with the request that she be given the early-treatment protocols prescribed through the Front Line Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), which included the use of ivermectin and budesonide.

However, when staff discovered she was unvaccinated, “the whole tone changed,” she said.

“I quickly lost the right to advocate for my own medical care,” she said.
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Each of the standard treatment protocols for COVID-19, beginning with remdesivir and ending with the ventilator, are reimbursed with lucrative payoffs from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), leading many to believe this is the reason hospitals continue to use these protocols while denying early treatment.

In a Sept. 7 conference titled “Remdesivir Death: Landmark Lawsuit” in Fresno, California, two attorneys announced lawsuits against three hospitals for what they allege are the hospitals using remdesivir without informed consent, leading to wrongful death.

The lawsuit addressed what the attorneys called “the remdesivir protocol,” in which the patients may be admitted to the hospital—often for problems unrelated to COVID-19—and then diagnosed with COVID-19 or COVID pneumonia.

The patients are then isolated and malnourished before being told remdesivir is their only treatment option, according to the lawsuit.


The patients are also placed on a BiPap machine, which uses pressure to push oxygen into the lungs at a high rate, the lawsuit says, with the patients’ hands often tied down so they can’t remove it.

The final stage of the protocol is intubation, at which point the patients die an average of nine days after being admitted, the lawsuit states.

In the end, the hospital can get up to $500,000 in reimbursement per patient for the protocol, according to the lawsuit."

 
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For Seiler, the lack of nutrition caused hair loss, and she developed a bacterial infection called thrush because no one removed her BiPap mask to clean her mouth, she said.

Seiler said the doctors and nurses wouldn’t allow her to even sit up, resulting in bed sores, and she eventually lost her ability to walk.

After two days on a catheter that she said was forced on her because nurses told her they couldn’t take her to the bathroom, she got another infection from the catheter.

“Things just got worse,” Seiler said. “People were dying around me in other rooms. Quite frankly, it was quite scary, and I knew that time was short.”
 
The republican side of things had no such motive
Unless you consider their outrageous attempt to sway Mike Pence into illegally NOT certifying the 2020 election results. Dude, you are too funny with your bumbling antics.

I was simply addressing the meat of the matter, with a link to Politifacts, that there seems to be a direct connection to Pelosi and the possibly probably purposeful negligence that took place.
No, you moron, it was a post on Facebook that made the claim that Pelosi was negligent. Did you not bother reading the story before posting the link?

Politifact corrected the post with the following comment and then some:
The post is wrong: Security at the 1.5 million-square-foot U.S. Capitol building does not fall solely to the speaker. Though Pelosi does have a role in the hierarchy overseeing security, there is no indication she controls its day-to-day operations.
 
from my previous post that you replied to...

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I'm tired of arguing with you. Your stupidity is exhausting, not to mention having to go behind you correcting all of your erroneous and dishonest details.

Right now you are like the Russian Army, getting your ass kicked and too stubborn to go home.
 
I'm tired of arguing with you. Your stupidity is exhausting, not to mention having to go behind you correcting all of your erroneous and dishonest details.

Right now you are like the Russian Army, getting your ass kicked and too stubborn to go home.
Heels Noir, you are wasting your time. Most of them can’t be helped, they are too far gone down the QNON rabbit hole.
 
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Just think about this..

For the past 7 years the democrats and mainstream media have told a bunch of stuff that has turned out to be false. They hit the ground running with the first piece of "maybe factual/rumor/hearsay" info and after a few months or couple of years we all find out it was a big pile of steaming hog manure. The list is extremely long.. that is a fact.

But we are supposed to believe the election was legit.
 
Heels Noir, you are wasting your time. Most of them can’t be helped, they are too far gone down the QNON rabbit hole.
I'm just trying to help out my fellow Tar Heels with their fractious lives, but for whatever reason it isn't sticking.
 
Unless you consider their outrageous attempt to sway Mike Pence into illegally NOT certifying the 2020 election results. Dude, you are too funny with your bumbling antics.


No, you moron, it was a post on Facebook that made the claim that Pelosi was negligent. Did you not bother reading the story before posting the link?

Politifact corrected the post with the following comment and then some:
The post is wrong: Security at the 1.5 million-square-foot U.S. Capitol building does not fall solely to the speaker. Though Pelosi does have a role in the hierarchy overseeing security, there is no indication she controls its day-to-day operations.
you don't get any smarter, do you?

If you're implying that republuicans would purposely neglect security so that Pence would be intimidated by a riot into not certifying the election, you're a complete fool. Of course, you are a complete fool so i shouldn't be surprised that you might suggest that.

The rest of your post is stupidly irrelevant to anything I've posted. I haven't implied that Pelosi was solely responsible and I do know otherwise and have indicated so, so as well as also knowing that of course she has no hand in the day-to-day, what does your extraneous bit of info count for? Nothing, of course, other than a weak and obnoxious attempt to create another strawman. Fail. Miserable fail.

The sergeant at arms is tasked with security, but he has to get OK's from his boss...the speaker of the House in this case, Pelosi. From the same site....

"The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the speaker of the House, or Pelosi at the time of the attack."

So Pelosi IS, as speaker of the House, ultimately the person who security requests have to be OK'ed by...just as I said and only as I said. That the SAA reports to her regarding security and other matters, means that the SAA would have consulted with her regarding added security for Jan. 6. That he contends that intelligence reports indicated no need for added security and that the reported objection to the 'optics' had nothing to do with not beefing up security is such transparent bullshit that anyone trying to defend this obvious interaction with Pelosi should be forced to wear a Pinocchio nose for a year. I think you already have one so go ahead and strap it on, you silly bitch.

Your strawman-making is embarrassingly inept. Surprising, what with all the practice you've had.
 
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Just think about this..

For the past 7 years the democrats and mainstream media have told a bunch of stuff that has turned out to be false. They hit the ground running with the first piece of "maybe factual/rumor/hearsay" info and after a few months or couple of years we all find out it was a big pile of steaming hog manure. The list is extremely long.. that is a fact.

But we are supposed to believe the election was legit.
Why should we honk it was not legit?
 
you don't get any smarter, do you?

If you're implying that republuicans would purposely neglect security so that Pence would be intimidated by a riot into not certifying the election, you're a complete fool. Of course, you are a complete fool so i shouldn't be surprised that you might suggest that.

The rest of your post is stupidly irrelevant to anything I've posted. I haven't implied that Pelosi was solely responsible and I do know otherwise and have indicated so, so as well as also knowing that of course she has no hand in the day-to-day, what does your extraneous bit of info count for? Nothing, of course, other than a weak and obnoxious attempt to create another strawman. Fail. Miserable fail.

The sergeant at arms is tasked with security, but he has to get OK's from his boss...the speaker of the House in this case, Pelosi. From the same site....

"The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the speaker of the House, or Pelosi at the time of the attack."

So Pelosi IS, as speaker of the House, ultimately the person who security requests have to be OK'ed by...just as I said and only as I said. That the SAA reports to her regarding security and other matters, means that the SAA would have consulted with her regarding added security for Jan. 6. That he contends that intelligence reports indicated no need for added security and that the reported objection to the 'optics' had nothing to do with not beefing up security is such transparent bullshit that anyone trying to defend this obvious interaction with Pelosi should be forced to wear a Pinocchio nose for a year. I think you already have one so go ahead and strap it on, you silly bitch.

Your strawman-making is embarrassingly inept. Surprising, what with all the practice you've had.
All this and nothing. You are too far gone, nobody can help you, maybe your family can….
 
I'm tired of arguing with you. Your stupidity is exhausting, not to mention having to go behind you correcting all of your erroneous and dishonest details.

Right now you are like the Russian Army, getting your ass kicked and too stubborn to go home.
oh I see, you're giving up out of a sense of futility in making any points but I'm the one getting my ass kicked. You have not directly attempted to counter a single thing I've posted. You're obviously quitting because you're running out of defections and strawmen. LMAO.
 
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Heels Noir, you are wasting your time. Most of them can’t be helped, they are too far gone down the QNON rabbit hole

I'm just trying to help out my fellow Tar Heels with their fractious lives, but for whatever reason it isn't sticking.

was this taken from the next sequel to 'Dumb and Dumber'?

Heartwarming to see these guys leaning on each other for support though, isn't it. LOL, what a great pair they make.
 
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oh I see, you're giving up out of a sense of futility in making any points but I'm the one getting my ass kicked. You have not directly attempted to counter a single thing I've posted. You're obviously quitting because you're running out of defections and strawmen. LMAO.
The longer you post in this forum, the less your opinion means to anyone.
 
From the rants of @randman1

Are you that stupid? LOL. The flu VACCINE.


wow you are a complete fuking moron. I pity you. Yes the video was fauci discussing the flu vaccine. I’d challenge you to a wager on it it but we know you’re too much a pussy to stand behind your deluded beliefs
 
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Just think about this..

For the past 7 years the democrats and mainstream media have told a bunch of stuff that has turned out to be false. They hit the ground running with the first piece of "maybe factual/rumor/hearsay" info and after a few months or couple of years we all find out it was a big pile of steaming hog manure. The list is extremely long.. that is a fact.

But we are supposed to believe the election was legit.
Whether or not an election was legit is decided by each state when they certify their results. It has nothing to do with “dems”. Each and every state dem or repub certified their results, many times in the face of lawsuits that went nowhere for lack of evidence as well as multiple audits. So show me which states trump really won and what evidence there is to support it in enough states to account for him getting enough electoral votes to have won.
 
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I feel like you left out something in this post.. at least a comma, maybe a semicolon.. a couple of words maybe.I missed that auto correct. Why should we think the election was
Sorry I didn’t catch that auto correct. Why should we think the election was not legit?
 
Why should we think the election was not legit?
The obvious answer would be because, since Nov., 2020, the D's and media have told us it is legit. And we know how most of that has turned out.

But, my own opinion at this point is that it doesn't matter. The election is the election and it's over. Joe is our president. End of discussion. The important part is to focus on the next election and the integrity of elections going forward. And just as importantly, focus on the idiocy of our current president's policies and the long term implications for us, our children, and our grand children. I really think that orange is missing the boat on this one, but that's his incredible ego - and it's made him a ton in donations. He's just feeding the beast that is so afraid of him running again in 2024.
 
The obvious answer would be because, since Nov., 2020, the D's and media have told us it is legit. And we know how most of that has turned out.

But, my own opinion at this point is that it doesn't matter. The election is the election and it's over. Joe is our president. End of discussion. The important part is to focus on the next election and the integrity of elections going forward. And just as importantly, focus on the idiocy of our current president's policies and the long term implications for us, our children, and our grand children. I really think that orange is missing the boat on this one, but that's his incredible ego - and it's made him a ton in donations. He's just feeding the beast that is so afraid of him running again in 2024.
Nobody, not the courts, not the GOP, nobody has found the election to not be legit, nobody.
 
Nobody, not the courts, not the GOP, nobody has found the election to not be legit, nobody.
Well, that's simply not true. But you love to talk in generalities with sweeping conclusions. To anyone paying attention, there were all kinds of anomalies and issues. Would they have mattered or turned the election or, as you want to summarize, made the election "not be legit"? Probably not, but we'll never know and to take the blanket position that nothing was wrong anywhere is just playing ostrich because one likes the result. Here's just one such example and note I used your supreme authority (CNN) so you can't complain about the source.

"The court's majority ruled that the Wisconsin Election Commission -- a six-member panel that helps oversee voting in the state -- had overstepped its authority when it issued guidance to local election clerks to allow the use of drop boxes to return absentee ballots in the 2020 election". That means that there were votes cast in the 2020 election through improper drop boxes. Again, did it impact the result of the election results there? We will never know. Could it have impacted the result of the election? Of course. So, don't act like there were no shenanigan's and everything was pristine everywhere. That's just not the case even though that's what you've been told consistently.

But it doesn't matter, it's done. Going forward we need to get it right and along the way talk about our current president, not feed the illness and hatred for our former president because you and your anybody but trump faction are still shaking in your boots. You know, maybe a topic like the 8.3% inflation rate for August despite the statements from the administration last month that they had gotten inflation under control and it was zero.

 
saw a friend the other day for the first time in a while, and find that he has gone from staunch Republican to anti-Trumper quasi-dem sort of person. We got in a discussion, a civil but challenging one, and I was amused to hear him spouting some leftist talking points. When I said I would support a Trump candidacy he verbally began throwing me out of his house. But I didn't leave and we made peace.

This guy is well-educated and well-informed but strongly opinionated. He challenged me to give an example of what Trump would do for me if he was prez. I immediately said he would address the border issue and try to stop the millions of illegals coming into the country. He scoffed at that number and said it was just a Republican exaggeration.

So I am going to send him this.



If these jokers admit there is a crisis, will dem voters and independents also have to admit how inept this admin is? 2:00 minutes in to hear the situation and the number in a nutshell.

This video is also good for a chuckle over the little hissy they throw because of those illegals being dumped in front of Kamala's place.
 
Well, that's simply not true. But you love to talk in generalities with sweeping conclusions. To anyone paying attention, there were all kinds of anomalies and issues. Would they have mattered or turned the election or, as you want to summarize, made the election "not be legit"? Probably not, but we'll never know and to take the blanket position that nothing was wrong anywhere is just playing ostrich because one likes the result. Here's just one such example and note I used your supreme authority (CNN) so you can't complain about the source.

"The court's majority ruled that the Wisconsin Election Commission -- a six-member panel that helps oversee voting in the state -- had overstepped its authority when it issued guidance to local election clerks to allow the use of drop boxes to return absentee ballots in the 2020 election". That means that there were votes cast in the 2020 election through improper drop boxes. Again, did it impact the result of the election results there? We will never know. Could it have impacted the result of the election? Of course. So, don't act like there were no shenanigan's and everything was pristine everywhere. That's just not the case even though that's what you've been told consistently.

But it doesn't matter, it's done. Going forward we need to get it right and along the way talk about our current president, not feed the illness and hatred for our former president because you and your anybody but trump faction are still shaking in your boots. You know, maybe a topic like the 8.3% inflation rate for August despite the statements from the administration last month that they had gotten inflation under control and it was zero.


"dealing a blow to Democrats ahead of crucial contests in this perennial battleground state."

How does this only affect democrat voters?
 
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Are you that stupid? LOL. The flu VACCINE.


wow you are a complete fuking moron. I pity you. Yes the video was fauci discussing the flu vaccine. I’d challenge you to a wager on it it but we know you’re too much a pussy to stand behind your deluded beliefs
Ok, you are that stupid. Fauci states what every doctor knows, which is natural immunity is stronger than any vaccine immunity, and so if you have had the disease and have natural immunity, you should not take a vaccine.

Doesn't matter if it's Covid or the flu or measles. The CDC states people with natural immunity from measles are not even eligible to take the measles vaccine.

Rand Paul was pointing out the lies that Fauci and others have told in mandating people with natural immunity take the Covid vaccine, which is completely contrary to all sound medical practices.
 
Biden and the Deep State demand the FBI manufacture white supremacists even though they can't find any. More agents assigned to white supremacists than there are actual white supremacists.

" “The demand for White supremacy” coming from FBI headquarters “vastly outstrips the supply of White supremacy,” said one agent, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “We have more people assigned to investigate White supremacists than we can actually find.”

 
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Harvard study shows the vaccines are up to 98 times worse than Covid itself. Should be front page news except the corporate media are now like Pravda.

"As boosters that have not been tested on humans are being rolled out across the country, a new study indicates that the jab is far more dangerous than COVID-19 itself. And the CDC has provided false information regarding their tracking of adverse events linked to the vaccines.

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A new study conducted by scientists from Harvard and Johns Hopkins, currently in pre-print, reveals that the COVID-19 vaccines were up to 98 times worse than the virus itself."

 
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Groomers now teaching and encouraging elementary children to watch porn and how to hide it from their parents. Considering this is happening even in Idaho, perhaps the only solution is to end public education entirely.

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the Idaho state government was apparently sold on the idea of encouraging minors in K-12 schools to consume pornography unashamedly via a curriculum dubbed “porn literacy.”

This porn literacy program was reportedly put together and purchased from a progressive nonprofit dubbed Education, Training, and Research (ETR), with videos have surfaced online of ETR representatives openly discussing how underage porn consumption should be destigmatized.

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Furthermore, information is provided to students on how they can hide their online browsing history from their parents."

 
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