OOTB's Political Thread . ..

[randman1]

he doesn’t state that regarding Covid you fuking liar. God you’re pathetic. And he NEVER mandated that people get vaccinated. Lol. You’re a clown puppet dancing and puking lies for the qanon fuk nuts. Dance fukker dance!

Displaying your ignorance and low-IQ again.

He's talking specifically about vaccine immunity not being as good as natural immunity. It doesn't matter what the vaccine is, and if you understood how vaccines work, you'd know that is so by definition.

Vaccines only work by triggering some sort of immune response to copy natural immunity but it can never be as strong as natural immunity. It's an imitation by definition.

 

[randman1]

They are the very definition of homeless, you stupid MAGAtard.


Except the vermin.

 

[randman1]

When was the last time any of you invited homeless people into your home? Never? That's what I figured. Look at the hypocrisy meter now.

Wrong.

 

[randman1]

Just peaceful celebrations! Imagine if they were Trump supporters.

What democrats and their voters don't realize is while they celebrate and encourage a 2-tiered justice system; one for conservatives and another for them, is that inevitably comes back to bite them in the butt as they near codify lawlessness in the areas they control.

VIDEOS: Chicago Police Overwhelmed by Mexican Independence Day Revelers - Valiant News

Americans celebrating Mexican Independence Day paralyzed downtown Chicago last night as police were overwhelmed by partying and petty crime

valiantnews.com

 

[Heels Noir]

I'd take in an American, homeless vet before I would an illegal because I don't want them here but you do, goo gobbler.

There is no shortage of homeless vets out there. How many have you taken in so far? Zero? That’s what I thought.

 

[bluetoe]

He’s trying to be obtuse but too stupid to do it correctly.

talk about stupid, if you weren't so incredibly obtuse yourself, you'd recognize that @Heels Noir actually made it clear that if you think that what the Klan did was a crime and a shame, then so is what Biden is doing.

What DeSantis did was qualitatively no different than Biden sending illegals all over the country and dumping them. If you compare what the Klan did to what DeSantis did, I defy you to then show any meaningful difference between what the Klan did and the Biden admin's policies on bussing illegals all over and dumping them without showing the same difference with what DeSantis did. If you do show a difference between what the Klan did and what Biden is doing, I defy you to then explain how what the Klan did and what DeSantis did is comparable without that reflecting on Biden's policies. You and your half-witted compatriot have, as usual, stepped in it.

The Klan picked on our own unfortunate citizens. DeSantis picked on illegals who shouldn't be in our country to begin with, and only treated them exactly the same as Biden did. Admit it or don't, but that's the plain truth.

And I know you won't acknowledge the truth of the matter, so good job pointing out how Biden's policies are comparable to those of the Ku Klux Klan.

 

[uncfootball-]

 

[bluetoe]

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lol, the boy has some nads.

 

[carolinablue34]

Migrants bussed from Martha's Vineyard to US military base, US attorney seeks DOJ 'input' on response

Migrants who arrived in Martha's Vineyard this week were bussed to Joint Base Cape Cod in Massachusetts, taking a ferry off the wealthy island enclave.

www.foxnews.com

I guess the folks that claim everyone is welcome were not equipped to handle 50 illegals.

For the record, they were refugees seeking asylum. Much different than crossing the border from a legal perspective.

 

[carolinablue34]

I'd love to stay there! I bet I would be safe, secure, taken care of, looked after and have no fear of threat from anyone.

Oh yeah, I’m sure that house welcomes all sorts- Yankees, gays, black people, immigrants, etc. all the people neo Confederates and rural white southerners are known for embracing.

 

[bluetoe]

For the record, they were refugees seeking asylum. Much different than crossing the border from a legal perspective.

only if you turn a blind eye to the fact that they are not really asylum seekers going through normal channels for seeking asylum. They are being called asylum seekers to keep from admitting that they are illegals.

 

[carolinablue34]

only if you turn a blind eye to the fact that they are not really asylum seekers going through normal channels for seeking asylum. They are being called asylum seekers to keep from admitting that they are illegals.

Under law, they qualify for asylum. They were escaping from a brutal communist regime.

You can say all day long the southern border is a mess. This is objectively true. But these people should not have been misled or used as a cheap political stunt.

 

[heelmanwilm]

Displaying your ignorance and low-IQ again.

He's talking specifically about vaccine immunity not being as good as natural immunity. It doesn't matter what the vaccine is, and if you understood how vaccines work, you'd know that is so by definition.

Vaccines only work by triggering some sort of immune response to copy natural immunity but it can never be as strong as natural immunity. It's an imitation by definition.

Yes you flaming dumbass it does matter what the vaccine is. The video is him discussing the flu vaccine. Totally different from Covid. To show that byte and claim it’s him referring to Covid is just an example of how dumb****s like you and that idiot Paul have no prob twisting facts and telling lies to support your delusions. Gfy

thinking about emailing some dems and have them turn off your AC

 

[Archer2]

Under law, they qualify for asylum. They were escaping from a brutal communist regime.

You can say all day long the southern border is a mess. This is objectively true. But these people should not have been misled or used as a cheap political stunt.

Agreed. The Dems are the misleaders, the users in this political stunt. The “stay in Mexico” policy had the problem under control until Dems reversed it. Ergo, the cluster****. The USA cannot afford to absorb this much illegal immigration, we don’t have the resources.

 

[carolinablue34]

Agreed. The Dems are the misleaders, the users in this political stunt. The “stay in Mexico” policy had the problem under control until Dems reversed it. Ergo, the cluster****. The USA cannot afford to absorb this much illegal immigration, we don’t have the resources.

Yeah, that’s not what I meant at all, but maybe give it another shot there, bud.

 

[bluetoe]

Under law, they qualify for asylum. They were escaping from a brutal communist regime.

You can say all day long the southern border is a mess. This is objectively true. But these people should not have been misled or used as a cheap political stunt.

under law they qualify as asylum seekers if they go through the proper process, which is not what is happening. You can't just show up anywhere and say 'I'm an asylum seeker'. Of course, I'm sure they don't even have to say anything.


https://www.rescue.org/article/it-legal-cross-us-border-seek-asylum


" Asylum is a form of protection granted to individuals who can demonstrate that they are unable or unwilling to return to their country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of:

• race,
• religion,
• nationality,
• membership in a particular social group,
• or political opinion. "

" Yes, seeking asylum is legal—even during a pandemic. Asylum seekers must be in the U.S. or at a port of entry (an airport or an official land crossing) to request the opportunity to apply for asylum. "There’s no way to ask for a visa or any type of authorization in advance for the purpose of seeking asylum,” says IRC director of asylum and immigration legal services Olga Byrne. “You just have to show up." "

I'm sure you'll pick up on the 'must be in the U.S.' wording, but that doesn't mean you can walk across the border anywhere and say 'OK I'm here' It is illegal to cross the border if you are not a citizen.

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/0...er-illegally-say-theyre-unaware-alternatives/

" What happened next illustrates why so few Central American migrants enter the country the “right way” — at the international bridges, or ports of entry, where migrants can request asylum without crossing the border illegally. "

These people are not seeking asylum under the proper guidelines and they are not seeking asylum by the proper process....because they don't have to. Biden and Harris are just shoveling them in as fast as they can, propriety be damned.

 

[carolinablue34]

under law they qualify as asylum seekers if they go through the proper process, which is not what is happening. You can't just show up anywhere and say 'I'm an asylum seeker'. Of course, I'm sure they don't even have to say anything.


https://www.rescue.org/article/it-legal-cross-us-border-seek-asylum


" Asylum is a form of protection granted to individuals who can demonstrate that they are unable or unwilling to return to their country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of:

• race,
• religion,
• nationality,
• membership in a particular social group,
• or political opinion. "

" Yes, seeking asylum is legal—even during a pandemic. Asylum seekers must be in the U.S. or at a port of entry (an airport or an official land crossing) to request the opportunity to apply for asylum. "There’s no way to ask for a visa or any type of authorization in advance for the purpose of seeking asylum,” says IRC director of asylum and immigration legal services Olga Byrne. “You just have to show up." "

I'm sure you'll pick up on the 'must be in the U.S.' wording, but that doesn't mean you can walk across the border anywhere and say 'OK I'm here' It is illegal to cross the border if you are not a citizen.

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/0...er-illegally-say-theyre-unaware-alternatives/

" What happened next illustrates why so few Central American migrants enter the country the “right way” — at the international bridges, or ports of entry, where migrants can request asylum without crossing the border illegally. "

These people are not seeking asylum under the proper guidelines and they are not seeking asylum by the proper process....because they don't have to. Biden and Harris are just shoveling them in as fast as they can, propriety be damned.

Well that brings up an interesting question. Why are they not seeking asylum in the proper way?

It also does not take away from the fact that Abbott and DeSantis are still misleading these people and using taxpayer money to ship them elsewhere.

 

[bluetoe]

Well that brings up an interesting question. Why are they not seeking asylum in the proper way?

It also does not take away from the fact that Abbott and DeSantis are still misleading these people and using taxpayer money to ship them elsewhere.

I answered that...because they don't have to. It was an edited add.

And Jesus f'ing Christ are u serious? You're seriously going to quibble over a few illegals being used to make a point while ignoring the complete catastrophe Biden and company are foisting on us? Why don't you get a t-shirt that says "I WANT to be a laughingstock"

 

[carolinablue34]

I answered that...because they don't have to. It was an edited add.

And Jesus f'ing Christ are u serious? You're seriously going to quibble over a few illegals being used to make a point while ignoring the complete catastrophe Biden and company are foisting on us? Why don't you get a t-shirt that says "I WANT to be a laughingstock"

Try thousands. I respect the political issue at hand. I do not respect political stunts of this type.

If Abbott, DeSantis and those in the GOP who are likeminded are that concerned over the issue, then they should negotiate reform in good faith. Twice in the last 20 years under Bush and Obama we had a chance to make headway. Both times it failed.

I maintain my stance these people are human beings and should not be misled or manipulated so some f**wad like Greg Abbott can score political points. He’s a douche. And so are the rest of the governors engaging in this crap.

 

[gteeitup]

watched newsmax channel the last hour just to see…holy moly, some of this country is insane.

 

[bluetoe]

Try thousands. I respect the political issue at hand. I do not respect political stunts of this type.

If Abbott, DeSantis and those in the GOP who are likeminded are that concerned over the issue, then they should negotiate reform in good faith. Twice in the last 20 years under Bush and Obama we had a chance to make headway. Both times it failed.

I maintain my stance these people are human beings and should not be misled or manipulated so some f**wad like Greg Abbott can score political points. He’s a douche. And so are the rest of the governors engaging in this crap.

lol, that you have the audacity to take this stance while calling @randman1 a nutjob and other things. Only the certifiably wacky would object to the symbolic protest that consisted of exactly the same thing that Biden is doing on a massive scale without mentioning that. You even had the gall to correct me on the comparatively miniscule size of the little gesture. Ohhh, they are human beings, wah, wah. Are they not human beings when Biden busses them all over the country? Oh no, you're right...they are illegal aliens.

 

[carolinablue34]

lol, that you have the audacity to take this stance while calling @randman1 a nutjob and other things. Only the certifiably wacky would object to the symbolic protest that consisted of exactly the same thing that Biden is doing on a massive scale without mentioning that. You even had the gall to correct me on the comparatively miniscule size of the little gesture. Ohhh, they are human beings, wah, wah. Are they not human beings when Biden busses them all over the country? Oh no, you're right...they are illegal aliens.

They're using taxpayer money to send refugees in large part all over the country without any means or actual revelation as to where they're going. It's abuse. That hardly constitutes as being equivalent to the screwball shit randman comes out with on a weekly basis. He probably believes in the illuminati and that Yogi Bear stole his lunch while camping in the woods.

It's beside the point. Which is that this kind of political garbage does nothing to actually solve the issue at hand and the legality of doing so is incredibly dubious. It's for VOTES, not because it's sound policy.

 

[uncfootball-]

They're using taxpayer money to send refugees in large part all over the country without any means or actual revelation as to where they're going. It's abuse. That hardly constitutes as being equivalent to the screwball shit randman comes out with on a weekly basis. He probably believes in the illuminati and that Yogi Bear stole his lunch while camping in the woods.

It's beside the point. Which is that this kind of political garbage does nothing to actually solve the issue at hand and the legality of doing so is incredibly dubious. It's for VOTES, not because it's sound policy.

I guess you missed the news when Biden was flying them all over the country.. in the middle of the night... so most Americans wouldn't know...using tax payer money.

 

[chickenhunter]

There is no shortage of homeless vets out there. How many have you taken in so far? Zero? That’s what I thought.

Damn, you're stupid and a liar. Did your parents have any children they are proud of?

 

[gunslingerdick]

They're using taxpayer money to send refugees in large part all over the country without any means or actual revelation as to where they're going. It's abuse. That hardly constitutes as being equivalent to the screwball shit randman comes out with on a weekly basis. He probably believes in the illuminati and that Yogi Bear stole his lunch while camping in the woods.

It's beside the point. Which is that this kind of political garbage does nothing to actually solve the issue at hand and the legality of doing so is incredibly dubious. It's for VOTES, not because it's sound policy.

 

[Archer2]

 

[Archer2]

 

[Archer2]

I guess you missed the news when Biden was flying them all over the country.. in the middle of the night... so most Americans wouldn't know...using tax payer money.

He’s such a hypocrite, like most liberals I know. Of course Americans have been footing the bill to secretly relocate hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens all over the country. Oftentimes, locals don’t even know illegal aliens are arriving in their community until after the fact. My hometown was “gifted” 200 illegals from Central America recently. The average resident knew nothing about it until they were already here. It’s just dishonest and underhanded.

The only difference in what the Pubs are doing versus the Dems is a matter of scale, Dems are relocating illegals on a massive scale. But let a Republican Governor bus illegals to a sanctuary city like Chicago and that city freaks out. Send illegals to Martha’s Vineyard and one minute the Mayor says she’s sympathetic and wants to help, the same day she’s saying ”they have to move somewhere else, we don’t have the infrastructure to take care of them, we have a housing shortage here.” I’ll bet those elitist liberals hadn’t given much if any consideration about the southern border before illegals showed up in their community. Nor to the immense burden this invasion has put on the southern states who also “don’t have the infrastructure or ability to take care of them”. But now they’ve seen the issue firsthand, as I have, and they don’t like it. Not In My Back Yard. Hypocrisy personified.

 

[Archer2]

Our border is secure

 

[bluetoe]

They're using taxpayer money to send refugees in large part all over the country without any means or actual revelation as to where they're going. It's abuse. That hardly constitutes as being equivalent to the screwball shit randman comes out with on a weekly basis. He probably believes in the illuminati and that Yogi Bear stole his lunch while camping in the woods.

It's beside the point. Which is that this kind of political garbage does nothing to actually solve the issue at hand and the legality of doing so is incredibly dubious. It's for VOTES, not because it's sound policy.

you think it's for votes because your mind is warped that way. To me it serves to make the vast number of numbnuts out there more aware of the insanity that is the Biden admin. If that translates to votes that help displace the insanity of the Biden admin, that's more like a fringe benefit.

 

[Archer2]

you think it's for votes because your mind is warped that way. To me it serves to make the vast number of numbnuts out there more aware of the insanity that is the Biden admin. If that translates to votes that help displace the insanity of the Biden admin, that's more like a fringe benefit.

Dems want open borders because they’re counting on illegals voting Democratic when they’re awarded the right to vote. Listen to Kamala. She said “the border is secure but we need a path to citizenship for these millions of people.” What a maroon!

 

[carolinablue34]

Dems want open borders because they’re counting on illegals voting Democratic when they’re awarded the right to vote. Listen to Kamala. She said “the border is secure but we need a path to citizenship for these millions of people.” What a maroon!

A classic conspiracy theory. Archer, you're just one big walking, talking right wing regurgitation machine at this point. And as usual you miss the point of the entire issue.

 

[carolinablue34]

you think it's for votes because your mind is warped that way. To me it serves to make the vast number of numbnuts out there more aware of the insanity that is the Biden admin. If that translates to votes that help displace the insanity of the Biden admin, that's more like a fringe benefit.

I mean...of course it's for votes. Very few decisions are made without that benefit in mind.

In reality, more border security may help with processing the people arriving on the southern border, I do agree there. It does not change the fact that people are just going to keep coming. It doesn't have much to do with who's in charge here. Illegal border crossings were already going up by the last two years of Trump's Presidency.

https://www.cato.org/blog/trumps-border-policies-let-more-immigrants-sneak

So what needs to happen here is this: either change labor laws in this country to discourage businesses from hiring cheap, off the record workers, tighten loopholes, empower unions, and restrict the flow of migrants through increased security. Or you just legalize everyone already here and make legal immigration easier ala the way we used to do it processing Irish, Italians, Poles, Jews, etc. at Ellis Island, while also increase funding at the border to ensure we are able to do this properly.

The root cause of this problem is the same as it always been: life in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras is shit compared to here. As long as that's true, the migrants will come.

 

[bluetoe]

I mean...of course it's for votes. Very few decisions are made without that benefit in mind.

In reality, more border security may help with processing the people arriving on the southern border, I do agree there. It does not change the fact that people are just going to keep coming. It doesn't have much to do with who's in charge here. Illegal border crossings were already going up by the last two years of Trump's Presidency.

https://www.cato.org/blog/trumps-border-policies-let-more-immigrants-sneak

So what needs to happen here is this: either change labor laws in this country to discourage businesses from hiring cheap, off the record workers, tighten loopholes, empower unions, and restrict the flow of migrants through increased security. Or you just legalize everyone already here and make legal immigration easier ala the way we used to do it processing Irish, Italians, Poles, Jews, etc. at Ellis Island, while also increase funding at the border to ensure we are able to do this properly.

The root cause of this problem is the same as it always been: life in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras is shit compared to here. As long as that's true, the migrants will come.

the cause of the problem is not shitty living conditions anywhere. The cause of the problem is not appreciating that we have a fvcking country of our own, and that our country is not responsible for the shitty living conditions of the rest of the world. There are shitty living conditions in Africa among other places. Why don't we have a flood of African illegals? Oh that's right, they're across the ocean and they can't make that swim. But you think the cause of the problem is living conditions in a place that just happens to be within a long hike or a bus ride. You've really thought this one through, I see.

If we control foreigners coming into our country on work visas, I have no problem with that and I don't think anyone else does. But just letting them in freely and giving them a phone and healthcare and a drivers license and food stamps and a 'welcome to America' and who knows what else is leftist bullshit.

 

[uncfootball-]

I mean...of course it's for votes. Very few decisions are made without that benefit in mind.

In reality, more border security may help with processing the people arriving on the southern border, I do agree there. It does not change the fact that people are just going to keep coming. It doesn't have much to do with who's in charge here. Illegal border crossings were already going up by the last two years of Trump's Presidency.

https://www.cato.org/blog/trumps-border-policies-let-more-immigrants-sneak

So what needs to happen here is this: either change labor laws in this country to discourage businesses from hiring cheap, off the record workers, tighten loopholes, empower unions, and restrict the flow of migrants through increased security. Or you just legalize everyone already here and make legal immigration easier ala the way we used to do it processing Irish, Italians, Poles, Jews, etc. at Ellis Island, while also increase funding at the border to ensure we are able to do this properly.

The root cause of this problem is the same as it always been: life in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras is shit compared to here. As long as that's true, the migrants will come.

LOL... Cato link.. left wing liberal link thing that only makes up stuff so message board liberals can use it when they have nothing else to counter with. Or something like that.

 

[Heels Noir]

Damn, you're stupid and a liar. Did your parents have any children they are proud of?

I have three brothers and two sisters and my parents are proud of all six of us. Don’t tell my siblings but I’m pretty sure I’ve always been the favorite.

 

[randman1]

They're using taxpayer money to send refugees in large part all over the country without any means or actual revelation as to where they're going. It's abuse. That hardly constitutes as being equivalent to the screwball shit randman comes out with on a weekly basis. He probably believes in the illuminati and that Yogi Bear stole his lunch while camping in the woods.

It's beside the point. Which is that this kind of political garbage does nothing to actually solve the issue at hand and the legality of doing so is incredibly dubious. It's for VOTES, not because it's sound policy.

Have you no shame at all? Look, you said you had trans-friends but were not trans and so I talked about the issue with you less sensitively than had you been honest. Would have said the same beliefs but expressed differently.

But you are truly wacko here. Biden IS bussing and flying thousands upon thousands all over the country and dropping them off on unsuspecting cities and towns, most of whom are not sanctuary cities, and then when some wealthy locales who brag about welcoming illegals get just 50 illegals whom they could easily house and feed, they and folks like you get your panties in a wad and that it's a humanitarian crisis.

Ought to be dropping off 50K in Martha's Vineyard. They have the means and money to help and said they welcomed them.

Of course, the truth is you guys are just hypocrites and don't really mean what you say.

 

[carolinablue34]

Have you no shame at all? Look, you said you had trans-friends but were not trans and so I talked about the issue with you less sensitively than had you been honest. Would have said the same beliefs but expressed differently.

But you are truly wacko here. Biden IS bussing and flying thousands upon thousands all over the country and dropping them off on unsuspecting cities and towns, most of whom are not sanctuary cities, and then when some wealthy locales who brag about welcoming illegals get just 50 illegals whom they could easily house and feed, they and folks like you get your panties in a wad and that it's a humanitarian crisis.

Ought to be dropping off 50K in Martha's Vineyard. They have the means and money to help and said they welcomed them.

Of course, the truth is you guys are just hypocrites and don't really mean what you say.

You can just straight f**k off, you parasitic dillhole. Better yet, put me on ignore because there’s not a single word coming from your twat of a mouth I’ll entertain.

 

[carolinablue34]

LOL... Cato link.. left wing liberal link thing that only makes up stuff so message board liberals can use it when they have nothing else to counter with. Or something like that.

It only serves to highlight the myth surrounding Trump as someone who solved illegal immigration. Even one of the most right wing think tanks admits this.

 

[bluetoe]

A classic conspiracy theory. Archer, you're just one big walking, talking right wing regurgitation machine at this point. And as usual you miss the point of the entire issue.

I think you missed the other point, that Kamala's telling us out of one side of her mouth that the border is secure while out of the other side she's saying we have to find a path to citizenship for the MILLIONS THAT HAVE COME ACROSS that secure border.

Oh wait I'm sorry, Kamala must only be a right wing talking point.