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I'm speechless. It's true the heart isn't formed at six weeks, so there is no actual heartbeat; but there is the beginning of a heart and there is a firing of signals that will eventually control the heart once it does fully form; It's the notion that men have contrived to artificially produce a heartbeat in an ultrasound in order to control abortion that's crazy.Great post. It's sad and sobering to realize how many, particularly on the Left, can be so gullible and unaware.
I wonder how many may even believe Stacey Abram's new outlandish claims.
" Stacey Abrams is pushing a theory here that ultrasound machines, used in hospitals now all over the world, were designed by a cabal of men, to manufacture a sound beat on purpose, in order to convince women to keep unwanted pregnancies. This is beyond QAnon shit"
Democrat Stacey Abrams Goes Full-Blown Conspiracy Theorist, Argues Heartbeats Shown in Ultrasounds Aren't Real in Sexist Attempt to Justify Baby Murder - 🔔 The Liberty Daily
If you love the news, check out The Liberty Daily's homepage. First of all, she’s at least twice the size of anyone else on this panel, so if you’re a Democrat, don’t you have to ask what her carbon footprint is? Secondly, Democrat Stacy Abrams, an election denier who still thinks she’s the...thelibertydaily.com
The thing for democrats today is simply to make up one outrageous lie after another and repeat it ad nauseum.
My guess is she was just wanting to come up with something on her own to contribute to their on-going methodology.
It's different. 20 years ago we all thought gay/lesbian was kinda weird, but that was just different from typical norms too.
But who cares as long as someone different doesn't hurt you.
I think it's completely fair to put someone's postings in perspective in light of some revelation concerning that person. If what that person is is no big deal, then why should it be a big deal to simply recognize it?
haven't we all.
You forgot to include the DNC link or other cite for how this list was produced. It contains many of the spins, half-truths, perspectives, or outright lies that have been debated, discussed and even kicked around here. The fact that you posted it and believe these statements whole cloth says more about your perspective and gullibility than the Donald. I'll address two:
Take two or three minutes and read the actual transcript of Trump's words instead of twitter or the msm summaries. You'll find that this is known as the Charlottesville lie for a reason.
Again, you have previously posted this desired conclusion. As has been shown in these same pages, while many of us believe and would agree that orange created the opportunity for what happened on J6, he did not incite the violence at the Capitol. That would be the Q's, Oathkeepers, Proud Boys, etc. The mere fact that you claim five people died as a result of "the violent attack on the Capitol" summarizes your fast and loose play with the actual facts. How about telling us the five people who died as a result of the violence? I know of one and she was shot dead by a Capitol law enforcement officer.
Gay/les is weird as shit too. It makes no sense in the natural world. But I'm not going to get into that. I don't really care.
I largely agree with you. I have no problem letting people live the way they want as long as it hurts no one else. And @carolinablue34 is not hurting anyone else by pretending to be a woman. That's fine with me. But where it starts to hurt other people is when we are pressured or forced to capitulate to their own fantasy. I don't have to respect it. I don't have to agree to it. I don't have to use pronouns of their choosing. I don't have to be ok with men sharing the bathroom with little girls. I don't have to be ok with men saying they're women so they can repair their egos by beating girls in sports. I should not be pressured by my employer or my teacher or anyone else to jump on board with what I view as fantasy. Again, they can live in whatever world they want. But to force their world onto others is indeed hurting society and I can't just sit and let it happen under some false pretense of "equality".
so what's the miscue count up to at this point? I still have him sitting on '0'. Maybe I missed one.
ACTUAL miscues, I mean. I know he's committed a few, I just can't recall them.
First, press conferences are big announcements, they aren't "simply". They are statement-making and attention-seeking. 99.8% of this board discussion is something other than 'legit' trans topics where someones gender identity has zero importance.
Second, I don't know who you are, and for the most part don't really need to know. Suppose you are russian and you want to offer your russian opinion on russia v ukraine matters- that is fine, but that is just your sole opinion and you aren't the voice of all russian people. So even in 'legit' russian topics your identity is is partly important, but not some massive stamp of authority or omniscience, thus no need for anything remotely close to a press conf that you're russian - for this board and many things in life it would be a non-issue.
I'll do you one better and post Trump at the podium actually making the comment at the 1:07 mark:
I actually tend to agree with this from a standpoint of it being inconsequential. However, I think what @uncfootball- was referring to or getting at was previously, @carolinablue34 had posted on the topic of trans in a third party style or was discussing friends/family. Recently, that changed to more of a personal reference and even included the specific post noted. Thus, it was a clarification that all this time the points being made were about oneself. I don't think it was an attack or a judgment. Those things have been laid out in other posts by both. Personally, I could care less about his orientation and it stinks about any grief received.
dude, that's just dumb. Even @prlyles could recognize that the term 'press conference' as used here didn't mean something like a full-blown press conference or even anything resembling one in degree of importance. It was just a cute way of acknowledging this new bit of interesting info that found its way onto the board. Jeebus man, calm down.
I think, and I don't doubt that @carolinablue34 would agree with this, that having this info out here is at worst harmless...as long as no one is making a big deal of it or criticizing him for it. There is an instance of that but as I stated elsewhere, I consider that instance to be self-inflicted. You know, don't dish it out if you can't take it. He seems to be able to.
To me, it's just interesting to be able to have a better understanding of someone's viewpoint. I'm sure a number of people here said 'ahh, now I get it'. That isn't a bad thing.
your friend, Vladimir P.
uncfootball and others make WAY too big a deal over gender/sex issues. So he might be joking about about the term "press conference" but my point is that he and others make WAY too big a deal over gender/sex issues.
My comment had nothing to do with carolinablue34 informing uncfootball of his feelings, rather uncfootball's use of the term "press conference" given the irony that the world doesn't need press conferences to announce anyones identity - gender, sex, race, age, # sh!ts per day, etc.
Agreed, but It's 100% different matter for someone to say "speaking from personal experience as a russian...." than for someone to put out a press conf.
You're either disingenuous, an idiot, a liar, or all three. Both in the original statements made about Charlottesville and in the video, Trump is referring to the "fine people" who were amongst those that were there against the taking down of a statue and against renaming of a park on one side and those people that were there in favor of taking down a statue and in favor of renaming a park. That is where the fine people on both sides were to be found. He does not say that neo-Nazis' are fine people. In fact, he specifically says at "And I am not talking about the neo-nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally" at the 1:58 mark. But that wouldn't fit your foregone conclusion would it? Watch your own video moron.
LMAO, are you serious you fvcking moron? You just made it plain as day what an idiot so many leftists are for allowing this to be taken out of context and made into something that it was not, but you're so stupid that you left it IN context and proved that you are just an incredible idiot. You proved @pooponduke 's point and confirmed his contention.
OBVIOUSLY, not all people on one side were supremacists and not all people on the other side were agitators looking for trouble. OF COURSE it was proper to say that there were good people on either side. This is a gleaming example of Trump handing leftist critics their own asses and it being made into something entirely different by the lying media and liars like you. I guess I should be saying thank you for providing this. But I won't, of course..
Capitulate! God damn you are a drama queen.
What is the "fantasy" which you are surrendering to? That historical gender norms don't match how they feel?
These two things seem like your only real gripe. And the latter is less common than a water-skiing squirrel. ETA former isn't so common either - that you know.
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I agree with both of these posts very much.
I had no idea @carolinablue34 was trans and I did the same thing that @uncfootball- did when I read CB34's post inferring he was. If UNCF didn't ask, I would have. I took the "press conference" comment as a figure of speech, like, hey this wasn't known on the board was it?
I also agree word for word with @pooponduke about CB34. Be who you want to be, do what you want to do. @carolinablue34 being trans has absolutely zero impact on my life and you're an ignorant moron (who probably has their own sexuality issues) if you feel the need to put CB down for it.
you do realize you more or less contradicted yourself, right? Was it about using the term press conference or not? I'll help. It was about using the term press conference.
again, it was just a way of saying he saw the info in mid-stream. And you're just being disingenuous if you claim it isn't a remarkable enough bit of info to...remark on it. Complete non-issue. What's the problem, are you behind in your virtue-signalling quota?
I already addressed this, quit bringing it back up.
I already responded to this but this deserves another comment. If this Donald Trump ever shows up again, and the wigged-out DJT fades into oblivion, I won't just vote for him, I'll campaign for him. And I will do my best to exact retribution on those media outlets that lie to us about what he represents. DISCLAIMER: That is not in any way a threat of violence.
ATTENTION PEOPLE..
These days it seems that gay/lesbian/trans/non-binary/alternative lifestyle people feel the need to have a formal announcement letting the world know about their sex life.
Press Conference post was a joke.
Edit to clarify.. "Press Conference" wording was a joke. Not the actual post.
That is all.
These days it seems that gay/lesbian/trans/non-binary/alternative lifestyle people feel the need to have a formal announcement letting the world know about their sex life.
Press Conference post was a joke.
Edit to clarify.. "Press Conference" wording was a joke. Not the actual post.
That is all.
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Great post. It's sad and sobering to realize how many, particularly on the Left, can be so gullible and unaware.
I wonder how many may even believe Stacey Abram's new outlandish claims.
" Stacey Abrams is pushing a theory here that ultrasound machines, used in hospitals now all over the world, were designed by a cabal of men, to manufacture a sound beat on purpose, in order to convince women to keep unwanted pregnancies. This is beyond QAnon shit"
Democrat Stacey Abrams Goes Full-Blown Conspiracy Theorist, Argues Heartbeats Shown in Ultrasounds Aren't Real in Sexist Attempt to Justify Baby Murder - 🔔 The Liberty Daily
If you love the news, check out The Liberty Daily's homepage. First of all, she’s at least twice the size of anyone else on this panel, so if you’re a Democrat, don’t you have to ask what her carbon footprint is? Secondly, Democrat Stacy Abrams, an election denier who still thinks she’s the...
IF you changed nothing but her skin color she would be working the morning shift at Denny's at best.
Capitulate. Surrender. Give in. Use whatever less dramatic word you choose. I'm not compromising my beliefs to make sure someone else's feelings aren't hurt. Furthermore, what I know to be true is that gender dysphoria is a mental disorder and I will not in any way endorse it, promote it or go along with it or whatever non-dramatic word you want to use.
The fantasy is that he thinks he's a woman. Or as you called it, "the historical gender norms don't match how he feels." Again, that's fine for him to feel that way. I don't give two shits what he feels like or what any trans person feels like. What I do care about is those gender norms being challenged and our society redefining certain words all because a miniscule percentage of the populations needs validation for the way they feel. I don't need to give a f*ck about how they feel. No one does. The notion that any of us need to agree or support their abnormal feelings is downright absurd. If they need validation and affirmation, that alone tells me they're not secure enough in their feelings. And to aid in their fantasy is doing a disservice to the vast majority of the population. We are not required to play a role in their theatre performance.
Lastly, go tell the parents of the girls in NoVa that were assaulted by the supposedly trans guy/girl that "it's not that big of a deal because there really aren't that many." Go tell the girl that was cheated out of the NCAA swimming championship because a guy posing as a girl beat her that she need not worry because there aren't that many of them.
Whoa...okay, perhaps I should clear the air here.
First off, @uncfootball- did not offend me nor did he do anything wrong. He made an erroneous assumption about me being 'a guy who likes other guys who crossdress.' I sought to clarify that.
I'm a trans woman. Big whoop. I wasn't comfortable at first admitting that on here to this crowd, half of which probably considers me a deviant/freak of some kind. So I used other people I knew as a front to defend my position. You might forgive me for being a bit reluctant. I've reached the point where I've stopped caring. I'm publicly out. It doesn't matter who knows in real life or online.
FTR, I don't want to dwell on the topic of being transgender all the time on here. I don't go around with a signpost declaring my gender to people for attention or out of a misplaced sense of self righteousness. I'm a regular person with a regular life. I just happen to be a bit different from how most people are born. That's okay. I don't want special treatment or a congratulations for it. But if I see complete and utter lies and viciousness against people like myself on here like @randman1 posts on a near daily basis, I have the right to defend what I am against those who cruelly regard me as subhuman or a 'groomer.'
@gunslingerdick I have no control over your thoughts and feelings. I cannot make you call me any pronoun or regard me as anything you don't want to. I'm not under the illusion I have that power nor do I wish to have that power. What I will say, is that under the law and legally, I am 'she/her' and I have an F marker next to my documents. That's what matters to me. We'll both live our lives accordingly.
Lastly, I'd like to thank @pooponduke @dadika13 @strummingram @bluetoe and others for being cool about this and defending me when necessary. It means a lot. Bluetoe himself had a great quote.
"To me, it's just interesting to be able to have a better understanding of someone's viewpoint. I'm sure a number of people here said 'ahh, now I get it'. That isn't a bad thing."
Couldn't have said it better. All I want is show I'm not a threat or a bogeyman you see in right wing news. To dispel the idea trans people are mentally ill predators. I'm also not some insane, narcissistic, Marxist nutjob who gets offended at every little slip of the pronoun or wants to radically reshape society. In the words of Gwen Stefani- "I'm just a girl." Lol.
Now let's get back to mindlessly picking at each other in a never ending cycle of political bullshit.
First off, @uncfootball- did not offend me nor did he do anything wrong. He made an erroneous assumption about me being 'a guy who likes other guys who crossdress.' I sought to clarify that.
I'm a trans woman. Big whoop. I wasn't comfortable at first admitting that on here to this crowd, half of which probably considers me a deviant/freak of some kind. So I used other people I knew as a front to defend my position. You might forgive me for being a bit reluctant. I've reached the point where I've stopped caring. I'm publicly out. It doesn't matter who knows in real life or online.
FTR, I don't want to dwell on the topic of being transgender all the time on here. I don't go around with a signpost declaring my gender to people for attention or out of a misplaced sense of self righteousness. I'm a regular person with a regular life. I just happen to be a bit different from how most people are born. That's okay. I don't want special treatment or a congratulations for it. But if I see complete and utter lies and viciousness against people like myself on here like @randman1 posts on a near daily basis, I have the right to defend what I am against those who cruelly regard me as subhuman or a 'groomer.'
@gunslingerdick I have no control over your thoughts and feelings. I cannot make you call me any pronoun or regard me as anything you don't want to. I'm not under the illusion I have that power nor do I wish to have that power. What I will say, is that under the law and legally, I am 'she/her' and I have an F marker next to my documents. That's what matters to me. We'll both live our lives accordingly.
Lastly, I'd like to thank @pooponduke @dadika13 @strummingram @bluetoe and others for being cool about this and defending me when necessary. It means a lot. Bluetoe himself had a great quote.
"To me, it's just interesting to be able to have a better understanding of someone's viewpoint. I'm sure a number of people here said 'ahh, now I get it'. That isn't a bad thing."
Couldn't have said it better. All I want is show I'm not a threat or a bogeyman you see in right wing news. To dispel the idea trans people are mentally ill predators. I'm also not some insane, narcissistic, Marxist nutjob who gets offended at every little slip of the pronoun or wants to radically reshape society. In the words of Gwen Stefani- "I'm just a girl." Lol.
Now let's get back to mindlessly picking at each other in a never ending cycle of political bullshit.
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Right. It's largely an attention grab by people with weak egos. They want to feel victimized. Our society has endorsed this culture of victimization. "Waaaahhhh...I'm not normal. I've had struggles in my life because some people are so closed minded. Waaahhhh. I've been discriminated against. HEY EVERYBODY, FEEL SORRY FOR ME!" In other words, my guess is that if social media didn't exist, there would be 90% less trans people in the world. Because if you can't get large scale pity for how hard you have it, then is it really worth it? Oh wait, before social media there actually were 90% less trans people.
There was a time when people who had struggles did everything they could to not air their dirty laundry in public. Now, it's embarrassing. People actually try to out victimization others. "You're only gay and I'm trans so I've had it rougher than you. Oh yeah, well I'm gay and Native American so that's two struggles I've dealt with versus just your one!" No shit. That's where we are.
I just find it funny how people who believe themselves to be liberal (which no one is liberal, all the time) somehow need Jesus to also be liberal... all the time. I knew that @Heels Noir 's comment would draw retaliation, especially from religious people who believe themselves to always be conservative.
"Jesus would have been on the same team as me!" is really important, I guess, for Christians, or anyone else. I guess Jesus is universally understood as an embodiment of "Good." If you have to proclaim Jesus would do what you do, or feel the need to explain how Jesus would definitely be on "your side", or share your values, especially politically, then he probably wouldn't be anywhere in the vicinity of what you value, socially or politically. You're probably just trying to convince yourself... I mean, bullshit yourself.
OOTB - where Jesus was a Republican.
You guys are freaking nutjobs.
You guys are freaking nutjobs.
You new here?
I find it kind of funny everyone on here thinks they’re an expert on trans issues and yet no one bothers to ask the actual trans girl her perspective and knowledge on the issue lol.
Oh, shut up! You wouldn't even BE "trans" if it weren't for social media!
He was a conservative... anti-liberal. Republican isn't a major player anymore.
I like to picture Jesus with a MAGA hat on, giving a speech at a Trump rally, and I’m in the front row, hammered.
When you say grace, you can say it to whatever Jesus you like.
Kidding. Sort of. But for real though, the Jesus I follow aligns with my beliefs. If I end up being wrong about that, then I’ll have to answer to it. Or maybe some of you are right and there is no Jesus or afterlife and it won’t matter. But for now, I believe in what I believe and feel I’m on the right path. Couldn’t give any less of a shit what anyone thinks of it.
When you say grace, you can say it to whatever Jesus you like.
Kidding. Sort of. But for real though, the Jesus I follow aligns with my beliefs. If I end up being wrong about that, then I’ll have to answer to it. Or maybe some of you are right and there is no Jesus or afterlife and it won’t matter. But for now, I believe in what I believe and feel I’m on the right path. Couldn’t give any less of a shit what anyone thinks of it.
That part me made me laugh. Social media made me trans? I guess I must have missed the millions of trans folk who existed before instagram and Facebook. Couldn’t have anything to do with the fact we lived up in an extremely homophobic society that tried its best to keep anything not straight or Leave It To Beaver themed.
The reality is, we’re just living in a more tolerant, open era. It allows more people to live as they are. We’re understanding and becoming more empathetic to things. It’s human evolution in action.
Sad part is, GSD isn’t wrong about too many adopting a victim complex. Social media enables that. But it affects every spectrum of our society, not the trans issue.
CB34 in this thread:
Jokes aside, good on ya. I’m surprised there hasn’t been more of a meltdown tbh
Jokes aside, good on ya. I’m surprised there hasn’t been more of a meltdown tbh
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