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You still have the same male chromosomes you were born with, which means you have never experienced female and you never will. You do not experientially know what it is like to experience being a female. So your idea that you are female or feel like one is a fantasy because you cannot scientifically know what it is like to experientially be female. Your idea of female is just an imagination.

What you are trying isn't being female. It's being trans. If you are fine with that, ok, but don't pretend it's a real gender because it's not.

Everyone is cisgendered. The word itself is offensive because it's just a means to promote a lie.

Harsh but seriously, gender dysphoria like most mental disorders can be induced via manipulation and promotion, and that's what is happening.
Define what you mean by "Experientially."

Gender is mostly an illusion, kind of a social construct. And, it's definitely mostly aesthetic. So, if you "appear" to be female, you're likely to have a female experience around other people. It depends on how well you are able to "appear" to be female. You can't become pregnant, menstruate or produce sperm, but otherwise... it's pretty close.

When we're in the womb, we are all female at the beginning. All mammalian embryos are female for the first month or two. Look at your nipples, sweetie.
 
Define what you mean by "Experientially."

Gender is mostly an illusion, kind of a social construct. And, it's definitely mostly aesthetic. So, if you "appear" to be female, you're likely to have a female experience around other people. It depends on how well you are able to "appear" to be female. You can't become pregnant, menstruate or produce sperm, but otherwise... it's pretty close.

When we're in the womb, we are all female at the beginning. All mammalian embryos are female for the first month or two. Look at your nipples, sweetie.
" Gender is mostly an illusion, kind of a social construct. "

Since when? Gender is defined by the chromosomes you are born with which also dictate development as either male or female. It's not an illusion but a scientific and biological fact.
 
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You don't have to be doctor to know if a man wants to cut his balls off and penis, he's mentally ill.
Well... if he wants to do it himself, with no anesthesia, he's probably mentally ill. But, I don't think all trans people are in that category. I've known about a few evangelical nuts who literally have made themselves into eunuchs in order to comply with some wacked-out church doctrine they believed was true.
 
I see. Enough about that then, let's move on. So you identify as a woman or you are in fact a woman. What is your favorite kind of sandwich to make?

I mean for your first question, I don't see much of a difference. Two things can be true. The vast majority of women are born with XX chromosomes. There are a handful who are born with XY as a result of something called Swyer Syndrome. There are also men who are born with XX chromosomes called de la Chappelle syndrome. I thikn trans people more or less fall under the same category. So, yeah I just see myself as one.

Italian subs all the way.
 
Wrong.

"

Who will be offered vaccination against covid-19?​

People aged 50 years and over will be offered vaccination.

People aged under 50 who are at a higher risk of becoming severely ill from covid-19 will also be offered vaccination against covid-19."

Says right there those under 50 who do not have some sort of higher risk will not be offered vaccination.
No hell no. You said they were banned from getting it and it was illegal. NO mention of that. Only that the program is being offered to certain ages. Anyone can still get a booster if they choose. It is not illegal dumshit.
God you’re pathetic. Plus these aren’t the dutch. You lose.
 
I mean for your first question, I don't see much of a difference. Two things can be true. The vast majority of women are born with XX chromosomes. There are a handful who are born with XY as a result of something called Swyer Syndrome. There are also men who are born with XX chromosomes called de la Chappelle syndrome. I thikn trans people more or less fall under the same category. So, yeah I just see myself as one.

Italian subs all the way.
Ok, so XX blah blah, handful. XY blah blah, Dave Chappelle. Got it.

As you were transitioning, did you often feel strangely compelled to make yourself a sandwich?
 
It all started when you asked me a simple question lol. I sincerely did not think it would explode into...whatever this is.

Well I asked because I thought it might have been known by everyone but me. You sort of dropped it rather casually and I was thinking I missed an earlier discussion about it. Seeing it has turned into a 5 pager I guess I would have had to be quite liquored up to have missed it.
 
You still have the same male chromosomes you were born with, which means you have never experienced female and you never will. You do not experientially know what it is like to experience being a female. So your idea that you are female or feel like one is a fantasy because you cannot scientifically know what it is like to experientially be female. Your idea of female is just an imagination.

What you are trying isn't being female. It's being trans. If you are fine with that, ok, but don't pretend it's a real gender because it's not.

Everyone is cisgendered. The word itself is offensive because it's just a means to promote a lie.

Harsh but seriously, gender dysphoria like most mental disorders can be induced via manipulation and promotion, and that's what is happening.

Lol what is the point of this? Do you think I’m suddenly going to change my mind and go back to being freaking miserable all the time just to appease your worldview? I wasn’t manipulated. Nothing about being transgender was promoted to me. I just am what I am. I’m a woman. And you have no power to change that.

Give it a rest.
 
Lol what is the point of this? Do you think I’m suddenly going to change my mind and go back to being freaking miserable all the time just to appease your worldview? I wasn’t manipulated. Nothing about being transgender was promoted to me. I just am what I am. I’m a woman. And you have no power to change that.

Give it a rest.

But you’re not a woman. You may be an effeminate man, and those have existed forever. And it’s ok to be that. But you’re not a woman. And that’s the kind of shit that I’m pushing back on.

Here is a good faith question for you: why can’t people like you just be ok to be considered an effeminate man or a masculine woman? Why are those labels not ok? Why do trans people insist on having a new label?
 
Well I asked because I thought it might have been known by everyone but me. You sort of dropped it rather casually and I was thinking I missed an earlier discussion about it. Seeing it has turned into a 5 pager I guess I would have had to be quite liquored up to have missed it.

It’s all good dude. You didn’t offend me. If you want to ask me a question about it, DM me at any point.

Can’t believe I’m saying this, but can we get back to politics? Lol
 
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It’s all good dude. You didn’t offend me. If you want to ask me a question about it, DM me at any point.

Can’t believe I’m saying this, but can we get back to politics? Lol

Well I think I'm more surprised than anything.

If I woke up tomorrow with my head sewn to the carpet, I wouldn't be more surprised than I am now.
 
Lol what is the point of this? Do you think I’m suddenly going to change my mind and go back to being freaking miserable all the time just to appease your worldview? I wasn’t manipulated. Nothing about being transgender was promoted to me. I just am what I am. I’m a woman. And you have no power to change that.

Give it a rest.
Well, do you think people will and should accept an unreality, namely that you are a woman?

Look, if it's just you saying I'd rather be trans, that's one thing but the claim people are born being the opposite gender to their biology is causing great havoc whereby 70-90% of people with gender dysphoria are suffering tremendous abuse.

Why not just be honest? You know you are a man but want to be a woman and this is as close as it gets?
 
No hell no. You said they were banned from getting it and it was illegal. NO mention of that. Only that the program is being offered to certain ages. Anyone can still get a booster if they choose. It is not illegal dumshit.
God you’re pathetic. Plus these aren’t the dutch. You lose.
Yes, not "offering" IS the same as banning it for that population.
 
Well... if he wants to do it himself, with no anesthesia, he's probably mentally ill. But, I don't think all trans people are in that category. I've known about a few evangelical nuts who literally have made themselves into eunuchs in order to comply with some wacked-out church doctrine they believed was true.
I sincerely doubt that.
 
Here is a good faith question for you: why can’t people like you just be ok to be considered an effeminate man or a masculine woman? Why are those labels not ok? Why do trans people insist on having a new label?

If you are asking this in good faith, I will answer it in good faith.

It’s an intrinsic sense of self. Similar to how gay people are just attracted to people of the same sex. They just are. Being an effeminate man didn’t suit me at all. Partially because I wasn’t effeminate prior to transitioning, I was actually quite masculine. And FTR it’s perfectly okay to be an effeminate man or masculine woman. I would never claim otherwise. I also openly cross dressed for years. I thought it was enough.

But it wasn’t. I’d had these kinds of thoughts since I was 12. The desire, the sense of being a girl just grew stronger and stronger as I entered my college years into my twenties. And it started to severely affect areas of my life. I couldn’t witness a beautiful woman without wanting to be her. My relationships went nowhere. I started to drink copious amounts of booze to cope with the inherent contradiction of physically being born male but feeling female. Some days I could barely get up.

And I tried. I really did. I tried so hard to cope, to just “be a man” and be content. Went into therapy to try and find balance, figure out what went wrong. In the end, it got to the point where I just couldn’t fight it anymore. It felt like carrying a two ton anvil on my back all day long. Something had to give.

That’s why I say what I say. You don’t have to believe I’m a woman, I know you never will. I know you don’t understand because it’s not something you have and ever will personally experience. But this is my best chance to be happy. To live a fulfilling life. To be productive and hopefully do a little good before the end comes.
 
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Define what you mean by "Experientially."

Gender is mostly an illusion, kind of a social construct. And, it's definitely mostly aesthetic. So, if you "appear" to be female, you're likely to have a female experience around other people. It depends on how well you are able to "appear" to be female. You can't become pregnant, menstruate or produce sperm, but otherwise... it's pretty close.

When we're in the womb, we are all female at the beginning. All mammalian embryos are female for the first month or two. Look at your nipples, sweetie.
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is it just me, or are we about to have us another press conference?
 
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I sincerely doubt that.
The man that shot John Wilkes Booth- Boston Corbett.

"On July 16, 1858, Corbett was propositioned by two prostitutes while walking home from a church meeting. He was deeply disturbed by the encounter. Upon returning to his room at a boardinghouse, Corbett began reading chapters 18 and 19 in the Gospel of Matthew ("And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out and cast it from thee....and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake"). In order to avoid sexual temptation and remain holy, he castrated himself with a pair of scissors.[2] He then ate a meal and went to a prayer meeting before seeking medical treatment."

Praise the lowered.
 
Oh of course the fact checkers are “in on it”. Says the guy posting straight bullshit. Tell us again how dems are hacking thermostats? Hahahahaha
That reminds me of when @bluetoe said to me the difference between my BS and his BS is mine is full of lies. I never knew there was truthful bullshit. Defies logic.

Have you decided on rand’s new avatar yet?
 
Define what you mean by "Experientially."

Gender is mostly an illusion, kind of a social construct. And, it's definitely mostly aesthetic. So, if you "appear" to be female, you're likely to have a female experience around other people. It depends on how well you are able to "appear" to be female. You can't become pregnant, menstruate or produce sperm, but otherwise... it's pretty close.

When we're in the womb, we are all female at the beginning. All mammalian embryos are female for the first month or two. Look at your nipples, sweetie.
You have said 1000's of mindless stupid things on here but this might be the most idiotic yet.
 
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