OOTB's Political Thread . ..

[bluetoe]

By sheer idiocy, do you mean living in a more peaceful world where we aren't so quick to judge and mistreat others who are different from us? Or are you talking about those of us who believe in science and realize there is something substantial to climate change and support common sense measures to address it with renewable energy sources?

Maybe you are talking about the four years of the narrow-minded leadership of Donald Trump that seemed like a f*cking eternity and those of us who voted that shit out of office, yeah? Or is it those of us who laugh and mock the rightwing MAGAtards who pretend to stand up for America like on January 6 in true unAmerican and unpatriotic fashion? I suppose inside your cracked eggshell of a mind it's all of the above, no?

Welcome to America's new reality, bluetard! Ha, ha, ha.

those who believe in science and climate change and doing something substantial about it with common sense measures? I'm far ahead of you in that regard, and I'm far ahead of most of the left as well. Trust me, I've been blowing that horn for longer than you've been trying to figure out what gender you are. That's why I'd rather spend energy on that instead of what pronoun you prefer to be addressed as, or spreading millions of illegals all over the country as if the country isn't ours, or keeping the economy at a level that doesn't punish us all but especially the poor. No thanks to that new reality., fishlips.

Getting back to the environment and climate change, windmills are not a common sense solution but nuclear power is. Oh, wait, I forgot, the left doesn't like that scary stuff so they block it at every turn. I guess we can forget the science-belief bullshit, because you're kidding yourself if you think the average dem knows how to point a compass. All the dems do is give lip service to science and the environment.

 

[Heels Noir]

By sheer idiocy, do you mean living in a more peaceful world where we aren't so quick to judge and mistreat others who are different from us? Or are you talking about those of us who believe in science and realize there is something substantial to climate change and support common sense measures to address it with renewable energy sources?

Maybe you are talking about the four years of the narrow-minded leadership of Donald Trump that seemed like a f*cking eternity and those of us who voted that shit out of office, yeah? Or is it those of us who laugh and mock the rightwing MAGAtards who pretend to stand up for America like on January 6 in true unAmerican and unpatriotic fashion? I suppose inside your cracked eggshell of a mind it's all of the above, no?

Welcome to America's new reality, bluetard! Ha, ha, ha.

Property for Sale in Canada

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[bluetoe]

Property for Sale in Canada

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Glad to see you're checking into that. I'd say we're going to miss you but you are the liar and I'm not, so I won't.

 

[Heels Noir]

those who believe in science and climate change and doing something substantial about it with common sense measures? I'm far ahead of you in that regard, and I'm far ahead of most of the left as well. Trust me, I've been blowing that horn for longer than you've been trying to figure out what gender you are. That's why I'd rather spend energy on that instead of what pronoun you prefer to be addressed as, or spreading millions of illegals all over the country as if the country isn't ours, or keeping the economy at a level that doesn't punish us all but especially the poor. No thanks to that new reality., fishlips.

Getting back to the environment and climate change, windmills are not a common sense solution but nuclear power is. Oh, wait, I forgot, the left doesn't like that scary stuff so they block it at every turn. I guess we can forget the science-belief bullshit, because you're kidding yourself if you think the average dem knows how to point a compass. All the dems do is give lip service to science and the environment.

What a moron!

 

[bluetoe]

What a. moron!

what an idiotic response. But you did all you could, I'm sure.

 

[Heels Noir]

Glad to see you're checking into that. I'd say we're going to miss you but you are the liar and I'm not, so I won't.

That was for you, my friend. Now that Trump has been silenced even by his own, I'm not going anywhere.

 

[bluetoe]

That was you, my friend. Now that Trump has been silenced even by his own, I"m not going anywhere.

It wasn't me; you posted it, dumbass.

Trump hasn't been President for some time now and don't try to convince me that all of a sudden your TDS has been cured. You'll continue to have the same nightmares tomorrow that you had yesterday.. The affliction is permanent with you, or you wouldn't have brought it up. And if you had any awareness at all, you'd understand that you are far more infatuated with Trump than I am.

I stopped being concerned with Trump when he lost the election, and I won't concern myself with him again until such time as he sticks a meaningful toe back in. You on the other hand, will grind your teeth away worrying about him, probably even after he's dead.

And all you can do is mindlessly connect those you don't agree with, with Trump. That's because you're not only mindless but clueless as well.

 

[Heels Noir]

It wasn't me; you posted it, dumbass.

Huh? Lying again, I see.

 

[tarheel0910]

I think you have to have premium to message, which neither of us do. I'd prefer PayPal (or Venmo).

Email me if you'd rather not post it here: @gmail.com

If you start getting a lot of gay porn and advertising for a larger penis, it's purely coincidental.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

If you start getting a lot of gay porn and advertising for a larger penis, it's purely coincidental.

I won't notice the uptick, I'm sure.

I was hoping he'd respond somewhat quickly so I could edit the address out, but alas - I'm destined for a slew of "3 easy steps to add 3 inches" offers.

 

[blazers]

I won't notice the uptick, I'm sure.

I was hoping he'd respond somewhat quickly so I could edit the address out, but alas - I'm destined for a slew of "3 easy steps to add 3 inches" offers.

Got it, and time to edit those filters.

And I sent a Paypal request.

 

[prlyles]

This shows how bad it's gotten, when a dumpster fire inflation number of 7.7% is so much better than the landfill fire inflation number the market was expecting, that the market soars.

Trump hurt the GOP More than the economy, inflation, immigration, etc. hurt the democrats

 

[tarheel0910]

I won't notice the uptick, I'm sure.

I was hoping he'd respond somewhat quickly so I could edit the address out, but alas - I'm destined for a slew of "3 easy steps to add 3 inches" offers.

I took it out of my response, but I'm sure there's at least one idiot here that would sign you up. I think we could all guess who it would be.

 

[heelmanwilm]

Hopefully Elon buys Fox News next

 

[toophly1124]

I took it out of my response, but I'm sure there's at least one idiot here that would sign you up. I think we could all guess who it would be.

Say it to my face

 

[bluetoe]

Property for Sale in Canada

Glad to see you're checking into that. I'd say we're going to miss you but you are the liar and I'm not, so I won't.

That was for you, my friend. Now that Trump has been silenced even by his own, I'm not going anywhere.

It wasn't me; you posted it, dumbass. And once again, we see it's YOU who is the liar.

 

[heelmanwilm]

Plausible deniability. Yes, the elections are rigged but still have to make the outcome somehow believable to lemmings like yourself.

So they’re cheating to lose to create plausible deniability. Okay. Is this something the denmark Dutch taught you? Is this double reverse criss cross strategy? They know we want to cheat to win so we’ll cheat to lose control of the house and they’ll be none the wiser!!

 

[uncboy10]

those who believe in science and climate change and doing something substantial about it with common sense measures? I'm far ahead of you in that regard, and I'm far ahead of most of the left as well. Trust me, I've been blowing that horn for longer than you've been trying to figure out what gender you are. That's why I'd rather spend energy on that instead of what pronoun you prefer to be addressed as, or spreading millions of illegals all over the country as if the country isn't ours, or keeping the economy at a level that doesn't punish us all but especially the poor. No thanks to that new reality., fishlips.

Getting back to the environment and climate change, windmills are not a common sense solution but nuclear power is. Oh, wait, I forgot, the left doesn't like that scary stuff so they block it at every turn. I guess we can forget the science-belief bullshit, because you're kidding yourself if you think the average dem knows how to point a compass. All the dems do is give lip service to science and the environment.

Nuclear energy is the ONLY solution to substantially cutting carbon emissions

 

[bluetoe]

Nuclear energy is the ONLY solution to substantially cutting carbon emissions

I'm not sure it's the only one but it's certainly the most viable one currently. Yet there aren't plants budding out everywhere. Hmmmm.

The libs are so afraid of that nuclear boogeyman, yet they neglect to acknowledge the fact that whereas nuclear power has a very good safety record, many many thousands die each year from the pollution caused by the fossil fuel generation of electric power.

If Biden is so interested in solutions, why hasn't he vocally championed a resurgence of nuclear power? Oh that's right, the environmental stuff is just lip service as he kowtows to the liberal scaredy-cats who claim to believe the science.

 

[uncboy10]

I'm not sure it's the only one but it's certainly the most viable one currently. Yet there aren't plants budding out everywhere. Hmmmm.

The libs are so afraid of that nuclear boogeyman, yet they neglect to acknowledge the fact that whereas nuclear power has a very good safety record, many many thousands die each year from the pollution caused by the fossil fuel generation of electric power.

If Biden is so interested in solutions, why hasn't he vocally championed a resurgence of nuclear power? Oh that's right, the environmental stuff is just lip service as he kowtows to the liberal scaredy-cats who claim to believe the science.

What I should’ve said is that it’s the only energy solution that is productive and reliable enough to sustain our current way of life.

Hopefully the recent breakthroughs in fission tech will help push forward the adoption of NE.

The fear of nuclear energy is definitely not limited to “liberals” or any other political group. That is a widespread and irrational phobia.

 

[carolinablue34]

What I should’ve said is that it’s the only energy solution that is productive and reliable enough to sustain our current way of life.

Hopefully the recent breakthroughs in fission tech will help push forward the adoption of NE.

The fear of nuclear energy is definitely not limited to “liberals” or any other political group. That is a widespread and irrational phobia.

Germany made the mistake of shutting down many of its nuclear reactors and now it's scrambling for fuel. France runs on 80% nuclear and they're in a much better situation.

 

[bluetoe]

What I should’ve said is that it’s the only energy solution that is productive and reliable enough to sustain our current way of life.

Hopefully the recent breakthroughs in fission tech will help push forward the adoption of NE.

The fear of nuclear energy is definitely not limited to “liberals” or any other political group. That is a widespread and irrational phobia.

I knew what you meant.

it...the phobia... isn't one that purposely hamstrings the installation of new plants except due to lib interference by way of lawsuit after lawsuit after permitting delays, etc., and that's because the fear more strongly exhibits in liberals and that's just a fact.

 

[blazers]

Lololol

 

[Heels Noir]

It wasn't me; you posted it, dumbass. And once again, we see it's YOU who is the liar.

What are you barking about now, bluetard? Are you going senile in real time before our very eyes? And why did you alter my quote? Are you that desperate to once again falsely paint me as the liar?

You're diabolical, man.

 

[prlyles]

Question for the MAGA’s only.

In your opinion what happened Tuesday?

 

[Heels Noir]

Question for the MAGA’s only.

In your opinion what happened Tuesday?

Not to be mistaken as a MAGAtard, I would say the easy answer is the losers simply lost.

 

[bleeduncblue]

Question for the MAGA’s only.

In your opinion what happened Tuesday?

Trump galvanized the liberal and apathetic vote .. again.

as a conservative, i hope he gets out of the game ASAP so Ronny D can walk the dog.

 

[carolinablue34]

Trump galvanized the liberal and apathetic vote .. again.

as a conservative, i hope he gets out of the game ASAP so Ronny D can walk the dog.

This is one element of it.

First off, I could not agree more. If the Republicans actually have interest in winning elections, they'll go with the guy that turned Florida red by record margins not the guy who lost in 2020 and can't let it go.

Second there were some pretty piss poor candidates running on the far right MAGA side- Dr. Oz, Herschel Walker, Blake Masters, Tudor Dixon, etc. Sorry, those people don't belong in the Senate or in a state house. And they all had to give credence to Trump's false assertions about the 2020 election being stolen from him. People are tired of it. They don't want a rehash of 2020 for the umpteenth time. They want people they feel can deliver results.

That's why in states where Republicans shied away from election denialism they won pretty handily- Mike DeWine in Ohio, Mike Lawler's big upset in NY, Brian Kemp in GA, Chris Sununu in New Hampshire, etc.

I also think abortion played a pretty pivotal role here. You're going to deny it or downplay it, but if banning abortion can't get a majority 'yes' in Kentucky or Montana, it's not going to work out that way in most places. The American public doesn't want this crazy 'life begins at conception, no abortion under any circumstance' crap from the conservative side. And if they don't moderate their position, or at least take a step back from trying to ban it nationally, they'll continue to lose out in situations where they should win.

If the GOP learns from this, drops Trump, runs Youngkin or DeSantis in 24 with a focus on the economy, they'll win big time. If they don't and Trump is the nominee again, it'll be a repeat of 2022, 2020, and 2018.

 

[bleeduncblue]

@carolinablue34 "The American public doesn't want this crazy 'life begins at conception, no abortion under any circumstance' crap from the conservative side."

i agree and equate that to the Left and their obsession with redefining gender .... the American public doesnt want that crazy crap either and it's going to cost them votes (already has).

 

[carolinablue34]

@carolinablue34 "The American public doesn't want this crazy 'life begins at conception, no abortion under any circumstance' crap from the conservative side."

i agree and equate that to the Left and their obsession with redefining gender .... the American public doesnt want that crazy crap either and it's going to cost them votes (already has).

I think the abortion issue features far more prominently than gender. But in principle, I do think the far left needs to stop leaning so heavily into social issues. Everything has to be a microcosm of social justice and frankly that gets exhausting. Even for me.

 

[bleeduncblue]

I think the abortion issue features far more prominently than gender.

IMO abortion is a major issue primarily bc the SCOTUS got involved in 1973. if it had been a States issue all along folks wouldnt get so riled up. imagine if the SCOTUS redefined gender on a national level, it would get the same amount of run (or more) that abortion has gotten all these years. it was cause hysterics.

 

[carolinablue34]

IMO abortion is a major issue primarily bc the SCOTUS got involved in 1973. if it had been a States issue all along folks wouldnt get so riled up. imagine if the SCOTUS redefined gender on a national level, it would get the same amount of run (or more) that abortion has gotten all these years. it was cause hysterics.

Well I still feel Roe was a bulwark against the kind of extremism you see in the states that have outright banned it. I don't want women suffering because these idiotic laws means you have to give multiple ultra sounds knowing the fetus is already dead or refusing to treat an ectopic pregnancy for fears of getting arrested. And yes, that has happened since the summer.

Still, it just means Democrats will have to win back state houses. Something they've neglected since the 90s and has cost them dearly.

 

[bleeduncblue]

I don't want women suffering because these idiotic laws means you have to give multiple ultra sounds knowing the fetus is already dead or refusing to treat an ectopic pregnancy for fears of getting arrested. And yes, that has happened since the summer.

right! where is the middle ground? i dont want nearly full grown babies being killed and thrown in the trash bc an adult changes their mind (that has been happening for 40+ years).

 

[tarheel0910]

Still, it just means Democrats will have to win back state houses. Something they've neglected since the 90s and has cost them dearly

Republicans have sucked on the national level for a while, but they've done a good job recognizing that state and local elections are just as important, if not more important, than the federal level.

 

[carolinablue34]

right! where is the middle ground? i dont want nearly full grown babies being killed and thrown in the trash bc an adult changes their mind (that has been happening for 40+ years).

And I’m with you on that one.

 

[bluetoe]

What are you barking about now, bluetard? Are you going senile in real time before our very eyes? And why did you alter my quote? Are you that desperate to once again falsely paint me as the liar?

You're diabolical, man.

nice try, bitch. I altered nothing. You lied. You always lie.

 

[Heelicious]

This is one element of it.

First off, I could not agree more. If the Republicans actually have interest in winning elections, they'll go with the guy that turned Florida red by record margins not the guy who lost in 2020 and can't let it go.

Second there were some pretty piss poor candidates running on the far right MAGA side- Dr. Oz, Herschel Walker, Blake Masters, Tudor Dixon, etc. Sorry, those people don't belong in the Senate or in a state house. And they all had to give credence to Trump's false assertions about the 2020 election being stolen from him. People are tired of it. They don't want a rehash of 2020 for the umpteenth time. They want people they feel can deliver results.

That's why in states where Republicans shied away from election denialism they won pretty handily- Mike DeWine in Ohio, Mike Lawler's big upset in NY, Brian Kemp in GA, Chris Sununu in New Hampshire, etc.

I also think abortion played a pretty pivotal role here. You're going to deny it or downplay it, but if banning abortion can't get a majority 'yes' in Kentucky or Montana, it's not going to work out that way in most places. The American public doesn't want this crazy 'life begins at conception, no abortion under any circumstance' crap from the conservative side. And if they don't moderate their position, or at least take a step back from trying to ban it nationally, they'll continue to lose out in situations where they should win.

If the GOP learns from this, drops Trump, runs Youngkin or DeSantis in 24 with a focus on the economy, they'll win big time. If they don't and Trump is the nominee again, it'll be a repeat of 2022, 2020, and 2018.

I think this is an accurate well-thought-out post for the most part. Only part I’d argue with is the left’s intentional mischaracterization of Republicans or the SCOTUS “banning abortion”. They just moved the issue to the states where constitutionally it belongs, instead of at a federal level. No twisting or distorting of the constitution or some tangential made up “right to privacy” has anything to do with abortion.

I will acknowledge that moving the issue back to the states like it was before Roe - did trigger more restrictive laws to take effect in some states.

But in general every blue state has exactly the same abortion laws - or more permissive (hell, states can leave a botched abortion live baby on the steel table to die if that’s what the state residents vote for).

And in many of these blue states the abortion permissiveness -legal up to point of birth - are more permissive and cruel than 95+ % of other countries in the world. We are in line with NKorea and China- not europe, Canada, South America.

Regardless - all Dobbs did was push this issue back to states as constitution intended. I am pro constitution and 10th amendment even when it means some states have more permissive life ending laws than I’d like. The concept of federalism is that if I don’t like it I can move to a state more in line with my beliefs - or work to change my state - much easier at state than federal level.

But that is a big difference between right / conservatarians and the left. The left wants absolute power over all citizens in every state.

The conservatarians just want “you do you, I’ll do me - leave me alone” and want less federal government intervention.

Left is only happy with. “I’ll do what I want - AND YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED to do what I want, too.”

 

[Heelicious]

This is one element of it.

First off, I could not agree more. If the Republicans actually have interest in winning elections, they'll go with the guy that turned Florida red by record margins not the guy who lost in 2020 and can't let it go.

Second there were some pretty piss poor candidates running on the far right MAGA side- Dr. Oz, Herschel Walker, Blake Masters, Tudor Dixon, etc. Sorry, those people don't belong in the Senate or in a state house. And they all had to give credence to Trump's false assertions about the 2020 election being stolen from him. People are tired of it. They don't want a rehash of 2020 for the umpteenth time. They want people they feel can deliver results.

That's why in states where Republicans shied away from election denialism they won pretty handily- Mike DeWine in Ohio, Mike Lawler's big upset in NY, Brian Kemp in GA, Chris Sununu in New Hampshire, etc.

I also think abortion played a pretty pivotal role here. You're going to deny it or downplay it, but if banning abortion can't get a majority 'yes' in Kentucky or Montana, it's not going to work out that way in most places. The American public doesn't want this crazy 'life begins at conception, no abortion under any circumstance' crap from the conservative side. And if they don't moderate their position, or at least take a step back from trying to ban it nationally, they'll continue to lose out in situations where they should win.

If the GOP learns from this, drops Trump, runs Youngkin or DeSantis in 24 with a focus on the economy, they'll win big time. If they don't and Trump is the nominee again, it'll be a repeat of 2022, 2020, and 2018.

One other thing. I worked on a local state house and senate race here in MN. The guy lost - and the two items that persuadables commented to him about at doors and on calls were “Republican Abortion ban”. And “if you’re a Republican you’re a Trumper”. Way past time for him to go. If he runs in 2024 - that is about the only way I see Rs losing a national election. Anybody the Ds would run against RDS would likely get crushed. Credit Ds for getting their message out - regardless of whether true or not. It stuck with voters.

And - while the timing of the Dobbs decision wasn’t ideal in context of the ‘22 elections - I still will gladly take it and accept it and celebrate it - whenever ot happens. The decision will save thousands of lives over the years - maybe these saved lives will do great things.

And - Dobbs isn’t changing for a long time. No legislation can change it. Any law the leftists try to pass - if successful would get struck down by scotus unless there’s a major shift to more radical members on the Supreme Court. Like - replacing 2+ of the existing Supreme Court IF they held presidency AND senate when judges retire (many are pretty young). Those are pretty long odds for the next couple decades at least, I think.

 

[dadika13]

Why should abortion be a State’s issue? What other medical procedure is a state issue? Can I not get my tonsils removed in Alabama but I can in North Carolina?

It’s a medical issue. That should be decided by the woman and her doctor.

End of story.

 

[dadika13]

“Do you know we’re the greatest country in the United States?” - Herschel Walker

“Hold my beer” - Also Herschel Walker when someone says Biden’s the most brain dead politician ever

Merica.