Your tonsils aren’t humans and you’re not killing another human when you remove them.
Moron.
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Your tonsils aren’t humans and you’re not killing another human when you remove them.
Moron.
Eh, I don’t know man.
Something about a woman in Alexandria not having a say over her medical condition because the Gunslinger Dick in bum fck backwoods 1950’s era VA voted against it doesn’t seem very star spangled free.
I’ve admitted that I’m reluctantly pro choice. But there is absolutely no good argument for it.
that's what a baby is to many of those on the Left ... a "condition." fortunately for them their Mom's didnt go down that path.
removing tonsils = killing a baby ... awesome. too bad your mom didnt have her "tonsils" removed
*unfortunately for us
we can define any word or concept as conveniently as we need to, whenever we need to. Suppose I stick a knife in good ol' dadika because he keeps playing his music so loud that I can't sleep, and he dies. When I'm accused of murder, can I just say 'no, he had a medical condition and It was between him and his doctor'?
Where do these idiots get their half-baked notions. Not one of them would hesitate to say I illegally murdered dadika in the scenario above, and they would all insist I be prosecuted and punished. Why? Because everybody understands that to take an innocent human life is wrong and there are therefor laws against doing so in a society where we all have to uphold the rights of others in order to expect the same consideration. But somehow, because a woman is involved or some other nonsense, it isn't murder anymore if the human life happens to be growing inside her and can't speak for itself.
OF COURSE, her condition is between her and her doctor. Her CONDITION. But the MURDER of her baby is between her and all of us, and if there isn't suitable justification for terminating the pregnancy, it is just plain murder. IF the pregnancy is an actual medical concern for the mother, that's now a different situation. Now the termination might be thought of as self-defense. But I referred sometime back to info from some government agency that keeps track of these things, and it clearly showed that the great bulk of abortions were matters of convenience brought about by a failure to use adequate prevention measures.
I have said repeatedly here that I loathe the idea of abortion, but that I could never speak for a woman who was carrying an unwanted baby. But I can damn sure speak for the baby, and I can support laws that force women to be responsible for what they bring about, and to not so casually allow such a predicament to happen to begin with.
The States all have their own laws against murder. Why all of a sudden is it a shock to think that they now have the duty to make laws concerning this particular form of murder? The fact is, the SCOTUS had no business making it a federal concern in RvW. But it CAN be a federal issue if Congress makes it one. Oh wait, that's right...the dems did try to get a bill passed that would have allowed the murder of a baby AT BIRTH, and for ANY REASON, and that bill almost made it through.
I'm happy to keep this a States issue.
Wow that joke is so original.removing tonsils = killing a baby ... awesome. too bad your mom didnt have her "tonsils" removed
"That was for you, my friend."
In response you altered my quote to read:
"Heels Noir said:
That was you, my friend."
Followed by
"And once again, we see it's YOU who is the liar."
You were being subtle, but then again how subtle can stupidity be? And over the silliest thing: Canadian real estate.
Once more, evidence of you lying and trying to turn the tables on me, which is simply just another lie. Nice try, you slut.
Yeah, that was a pretty horrible comparison by @dadika13 .
So I wonder what McCarthy is going to do now since he bet everything he had on Trump? If he actually gets to be house speaker, I can't imagine he'll be very effective.
The man was born without a necessary component to human functionality: a spine.
lol, you're such a moron. You said I altered your post. I did nothing of the kind. All I did was quote you. If anything, maybe you went back and added the 'for', for some reason . It doesn't make sense for me to have changed it that way because I was just pointing out that you posted the 'Property in Canada' deal IN REPLY TO YOUR OWN POST. In other words, it was you, or for you or any other idiotic way you want to put it."That was for you, my friend."
In response you altered my quote to read:
"Heels Noir said:
That was you, my friend."
Followed by
"And once again, we see it's YOU who is the liar."
You were being subtle, but then again how subtle can stupidity be? And over the silliest thing: Canadian real estate.
Once more, evidence of you lying and trying to turn the tables on me, which is simply just another lie. Nice try, you slut.
When I said 'you posted it', you said I was a liar. You posted it, liar. Own it, fishlips.
My post was timestamped at 3:04pm. Your response was timestamped at 3:18pm. Anyone knows that if you edit your post after five minutes there is clear evidence of it in the form of a message at the bottom right stating "Last edited" with the day and time. Does my post include that? No.
So what could be the only other plausible reason? Maybe . . . YOU'RE THE LIAR and you got caught.
Medical issues aren’t - and shouldn’t be covered in the constitution.
The constitution isn’t a document and tool for the federal govt to grant medical rights, speech rights, gun rights, due process rights etc.
Constitution and BOR (1st 10 amendments) is ONLY to define and limit FEDERAL GOVERNMENT powers over states and citizens - period.
And to defend the God given individual rights suggested by founders in declaration of Independence - life, liberty, property.
Each individual citizen or state can have their day and pass laws regarding right to life, and work to change the laws in their state if they don’t like them.
Exit question @dadika - maybe this was meant as a triggering troll comment - but is you personal view really that aborting a fetus or baby - whatever you want to call it - even at 20 -36 weeks from conception - when it is a viable life outside the womb - is the same as having tonsils removed? Because IMO that is as cold, dark, evil, grim AF.
A baby ends up outside the woman’s vagina - presto it’s a life, it’s a baby. The same object at the same exact number of days from conception - and the life is ended and the tissue removed and disposed of “just like tonsils”.
Wow - that is some magical mystical power you are granting to women’s vaginas . The passing through these flaps of skin are the mystical random point where life begins.
This lack of reasoning and logic is beyond my understanding/ comprehension
I think it was more about him wanting power than it was about standing up to Trump. He bet, incorrectly, that he would get the most power through Trump.
I understand your reasoning behind this from a moral point of view. But not a legal one. If every law and legality was decided by what was in the Constitution specifically then we’d be living in 1822 not 2022. Conservative originalism has to be as inconsistent as the liberal idea of ‘interpretation’.
Interracial marriage, right to contraception, right to LGBT protections, and other freedoms enjoyed by many would not be legal if we are strictly going off the Constitution. A document exceedingly difficult to amend and by no means perfect.
I’m against abortion after first trimester unless the mother or baby’s life is in danger.
My point on the tonsils is obviously not that they are the same thing, but it’s about not having the government in medicine, which I feel abortion constitutes.
It’s obviously an extremely sensitive issue but those who are blanket no abortion are nuts in my mind. If a woman is raped, if she’s diagnosed with one of the hundreds of things that put her life or the babies in danger, or if the baby has already miscarried (thus denying the operation to remove the dead fetus) then abortion is absolutely necessary.
If someone feels differently there then in my mind they are the murderers.
I guess it comes down to when you think a group of cells becomes a human being.
This one is dedicated to you, bluetard. Leave Ginger and Mary Ann alone, Mrs. Howell is more your speed.
Not really. Comparing some unnecessary part of the body that you're born with, to a potential human being/fetus/baby/group of cells (whatever you want to call it) is just a horrible comparison. He knows that. That's why he hasn't really pushed back at people calling him out on it.
I’m for it being none of y’all’s fuking business. Not yours, not mine, not the state’s, not the feds, not the church. Until delivery it is a part of a woman’s body and that woman and that woman alone should have the final say in taking it to term. Now IF she were to ask me for advice I would say “make up your mind before 25 weeks cause after that it seems wrong to me”. But guess what…..no woman’s ever asked me and I would wager not a fuking one has ever asked any of y’all. (God help any poor woman looking to you fuks for advice.) So just worry about your own salvation and morality…..god knows from reading your posts there’s plenty there to work on. Or as a compromise….once you adopt a baby I’ll give a fuk about your opinion on dealing with unwanted pregnancies.
Post of the day, maybe the week. Maybe the month or the year, even!
Take notes and learn something, all you uptight worrywarts.
Look let’s cut the nonsense here.
There is a certain point in time where an abortion, in theory, would be immoral. If a woman suddenly changed her mind at the last minute or even at the point where a fetus can live outside the womb, I have a problem with it.
But that’s ignoring the reality of abortion. Most women get this procedure in the first trimester before the fetus is viable or even can feel pain. It’s not a group of people laughing manically, dancing around a bonfire rejoicing at the killing of a potential life. Never mind the circumstances in which an abortion is actually necessary- ectopic pregnancy, dead fetus, etc.
So, let’s allow abortion up until a certain point in the pregnancy, restrict it afterwards, and take steps to prevent such scenarios in the first place: proper sex education, the instillment of personal responsibility, and birth control.
I guarantee the number of abortions would go down.
There is a certain point in time where an abortion, in theory, would be immoral. If a woman suddenly changed her mind at the last minute or even at the point where a fetus can live outside the womb, I have a problem with it.
But that’s ignoring the reality of abortion. Most women get this procedure in the first trimester before the fetus is viable or even can feel pain. It’s not a group of people laughing manically, dancing around a bonfire rejoicing at the killing of a potential life. Never mind the circumstances in which an abortion is actually necessary- ectopic pregnancy, dead fetus, etc.
So, let’s allow abortion up until a certain point in the pregnancy, restrict it afterwards, and take steps to prevent such scenarios in the first place: proper sex education, the instillment of personal responsibility, and birth control.
I guarantee the number of abortions would go down.
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Stop being so rational.
Jesus said abortion is wrong. Didn’t you know that he predicted a procedure would be possible 1979 years after his birth and said nah that isn’t cool?
@dadika13, no need to quote me. I already saw your post where you recognized that it was a bad comparison and backed off. Everyone makes mistakes, don't sweat it.
yeah except what would I be lying about? You're a lying fvcktard and everyone knows it. I did not purposely change your post and I'm not sure I did anyway. If I accidentally altered your post, I apologize....but there is no reason for me to have purposely done so in that manner since it doesn't alter the point I was making, which is that you posted about Canadian real estate to your own post.
It wasn't me, it was YOU who did that.
And you on the other hand were quoted lying, and several times at that.
ever since I started exposing you for the compulsive, habitual liar that you are, you have desperately tried and tried to turn the tables on me. Good luck with that fishlips, all one has to do is read the words posted and the real liar is revealed. You can't do it, because I don't lie.
All you can do is tell more lies in trying to make your previous lies seem valid. You create strawmen, you change intended meanings, you take words out of context, you falsely accuse me of what I have shown you actually doing......and you just flat out lie.
It's you. YOU are the liar. And that's the truth.
You're probably completely unaware of it, blue, but you perfectly fit the mold of a compulsive liar:
- Compulsive liars will press their point relentlessly, especially if they feel they are not convincing anyone other than themselves.
- People who are lying will start removing themselves from their story and start directing the focus on other people. You will hear fewer me’s and I’s as liars try to psychologically distance themselves from the lie that they are weaving.
- The theory of psychological projection was developed by Sigmund Freud, an Austrian psychologist commonly referred to as the “father of psychoanalysis.” For this reason, psychological projection is sometimes called “Freudian projection.” During his sessions with patients, Freud noticed that they would regularly accuse others of showing the same behaviors they themselves were demonstrating. By engaging in this behavior, the patient was better able to deal with the emotions he or she was experiencing.
- Compulsive liars generally can be identified by accusing multiple people of the same charge.
That last point is interesting. How many times have you called strummingram a liar simply when he disagreed with you? I've noticed you doing it on several occasions. How many other posters here have been similarly mislabeled as such by you?
Not only are you a liar, you're also in complete denial and you might be suffering from a diagnosis of pseudologia fantastica (look it up). I'm sure there are some good therapists in the Triangle area. Perhaps you should get in touch with one of them, eh?
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the p is a powerful thing, has been for eons…men and women have killed because of it.
just because a liar like you declares something, certainly doesn't mean it's true and probably indicates the opposite. I have caught you in lie after lie and then SHOWN THAT TO BE THE CASE. I generally substantiate what I claim. All you do is make baseless accusations. You never back them up or substantiate them. You can't, so you just tell more lies.
When someone lies, I call them a liar. I don't do it because they disagree with me, I do it when they argue dishonestly. I don't recall calling strummingram a liar (maybe I have), but there's no question that I've called him on putting words in someone's mouth in order to have something to argue against, and creating narratives to virtue-signal about. That IS dishonest and I have no qualms about saying so. As for you, if you don't want me to label you a liar, don't BE a liar. If you insist on lying, expect to be labeled as such.
I like to argue, and I appreciate a spirited back-and-forth. I don't like being wrong any less than anyone else, but disagreement doesn't bother me. It's just that when a jackass like you lies because he has no other way of presenting an opposing viewpoint, it disgusts me and I react. You value honesty less than you need to not be challenged, due to your deep insecurities.
Too bad for you. Deal with it.
cool ... we adopted 8 years ago ... my sister adopted earlier this year ... my cousin and her husband fostered / adopted an unwanted baby a few years back ... our family donates several thousand dollars each years to Pregnancy Support Services in the RDU area. so it's nice to know you now care about my opinion 😝
God ALWAYS has a plan for that life he created inside of the female. always.
Welp, that didn't go as he had planned. lol.
were you actually trying to miss the point? If so, you nailed it....you nailed missing the point, that is. Unless of course you meant that men and women have killed babies at birth because of it.
The magic of the pussy that @Heelicious was talking about was the magic of imbuing viability to the life that passes through the lips on its way into the cold, cruel world, where viability did not apparently exist the moment before.
But tell us more about those other killings, I haven't heard about them. Did the perps get arrested and punished? Because murder has been illegal or at least considered wrong for eons .
Some of the scariest convos in my life have been those "holy shit, what if" days with a girlfriend you didn't love in college though. Thankfully mine ended with "heavy, weird period" rather than the convo you are talking about or a little game of just-the-tip could've been a trip to the clinic, or being a dad at eighteen
And sometimes that plan involves the fetal alcohol syndrome. yeah holy spirit?
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