ADVERTISEMENT

OOTB's Political Thread . ..

How does any of that give her the power of the president? The only time a VP has any real power is when they are the tiebreaker in a Senate vote. Otherwise they are just there in case the president dies.
Well, for the typical VP, you are right and they are merely the insurance policy. But, I'll be kind and ask, for the last say 24 months, has Joe's presidency been anything close to typical? Someone besides Joe has been doing their best Nancy Reagan impersonation. Our VP has been positioning for all that time claiming she was the last one there, in the room, when Joe was "deciding". That's not the typical VP waiting for the random heart attack, stroke, or bullet.
 
  • Love
Reactions: nctransplant
Vance $5000 child tax credit=bad
Kamala $6000 child tax credit=great
$25,000 handout for first time homeowners
Gubment to build ~3Million houses

All wonderful ideas.
 
Of course you do. lol I am amazed at how little self-awareness you people have. Did you really type that with a straight face?
no, I typed it with my fingers. While you're amazed at our lack of self-awareness, 'we people' are completely aware of what a clueless moron you are.

As I type this I'm laughing at you inside like I usually do.
 
Right, so attack her on that. Saying she should have done things she has no power to do is just dumb.
But she's the one who claimed she was in on all these things when the power was being exercised. It's just plain dumb to not hold her accountable accordingly. Either she's full of it when making the claim or she's full of it with the actual decisions. Either way, she's full of it and it's just team D cheerleading to believe she's gonna be somehow different if she moves from the bench to the oval office.
 
How does any of that give her the power of the president? The only time a VP has any real power is when they are the tiebreaker in a Senate vote. Otherwise they are just there in case the president dies.
Correct, they have very little power but can do you a lot of harm.
 
I'm trying to give her a little credit. It's pretty obvious that no one is home in Joe's head. You like her price control proposals and raising taxes?
again, price controls or anti price gouging and enforcing antitrust? States already have price-gouging laws, so it isn't like this some foreign concept. Antitrust too. Why not make sure price gouging is limited?

Price gouging is an attempt to legislate some morality or ethics, so it isn't an easy thing, but when someone is exploiting crisis (also subjective, but we all know what flooding looks, for example) then the matter is no longer a simple supply/demand matter for capitalism, it's more akin to stealing (ya know, one of those 10 thingies you want on the walls of classrooms).

Legislation can be scary, but it's better than mayhem that allows monopolistic greed and exploitative greed to run amok.
 
You act like he's been exonerated and that this was all a big hoax that the system portrayed against him. Seems you're living in opposite world or something. You'll probably even will tell us that Joe wasn't charged for the secret document stuff because he didn't actually do anything wrong there either.
It's been almost two yrs. If he's guilty of something why haven't they asked for impeachment? In plenty of opportunity why haven't they shown actual evidence behind their innuendo?
 
It's been almost two yrs. If he's guilty of something why haven't they asked for impeachment? In plenty of opportunity why haven't they shown actual evidence behind their innuendo?
 
  • Love
Reactions: pooponduke
When I see a lie I just point it out and when I see the truth I point that out as well.

Of course you do. lol I am amazed at how little self-awareness you people have. Did you really type that with a straight face?

pro tip; when you quote only a single line, there is no point in bolding it. We get which line you are responding to.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: nctransplant
Exactly, they aren't recommending impeachment after all this time. They say "he's committed bad things", but couldn't show actual evidence in hearings. They got destroyed in hearings, cuz they have loose conspiracy instead of evidence. If they had evidence his head would be on a bloody pike.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: nctransplant
again, price controls or anti price gouging and enforcing antitrust? States already have price-gouging laws, so it isn't like this some foreign concept. Antitrust too. Why not make sure price gouging is limited?

Price gouging is an attempt to legislate some morality or ethics, so it isn't an easy thing, but when someone is exploiting crisis (also subjective, but we all know what flooding looks, for example) then the matter is no longer a simple supply/demand matter for capitalism, it's more akin to stealing (ya know, one of those 10 thingies you want on the walls of classrooms).

Legislation can be scary, but it's better than mayhem that allows monopolistic greed and exploitative greed to run amok.

first of all, this is not about a natural catastrophe, it's a man-made problem that doesn't require ham-fisted measures to correct. Secondly, who determines how close something is to stealing? There's stealing and there's NOT stealing, but 'close to' stealing is just liberal gibberish. In terms of wisdom, It's akin to the liberal notion that if I'm not contributing to you, then I'm stealing from you.

"Legislation can be scary, but it's better than mayhem that allows monopolistic greed and exploitative greed to run amok."

That's crap. Legislation to combat 'monopolistic greed and exploitative greed' is just leftist attempts to control our lives and nudge us toward socialism and away from capitalism..

I might be shocked at what the drug I'm prescribed costs, but more so than that, I'm pretty damn happy that the drug company was able to research and develop it and make it available so my life is better. The leftists say don't charge such an outrageous price for the drug I need and demand to have, a drug that I have some ethereal right to although it didn't even exist ten years ago.
 
  • Like
Reactions: nctransplant
Right, so attack her on that. Saying she should have done things she has no power to do is just dumb.

she didn’t take care of anything as VP because Biden’s camp didn’t trust her with anything. Thats telling. They thought so lowly of her that they gave her almost nothing. And now she’s everybody’s favorite? Lol. The one thing they did give her was an unfixable problem which of course she ignored. But think about that…the only thing Joe entrusted her with was something he knew she couldn’t and wouldn’t do anything about.

But now she’s female Obama. Yeah, seems legit.
 
Last edited:
All the Dims are telling us that things are really going great and our economy is doing great. My question is, Why does Kameltoe say she is going to fix things on day one? What's there to fix?

“Nothing is wrong. Things in America are great! But I’m gonna fix those great things on day one!”

Clown show.
 
  • Love
Reactions: nctransplant
Exactly, they aren't recommending impeachment after all this time. They say "he's committed bad things", but couldn't show actual evidence in hearings. They got destroyed in hearings, cuz they have loose conspiracy instead of evidence. If they had evidence his head would be on a bloody pike.
either that or they have evidence (and they have), but know that without bombshell, hand-in-the-cookie-jar evidence, the dems would kill any attempt to impeach. That's closer to reality.

And actually, probably even with bombshell evidence.
 
Exactly, they aren't recommending impeachment after all this time. They say "he's committed bad things", but couldn't show actual evidence in hearings. They got destroyed in hearings, cuz they have loose conspiracy instead of evidence. If they had evidence his head would be on a bloody pike.

No. Because Biden is a well meaning guy with a mushy brain who isn't competent enough to be impeached. Lol. You forget about Hur's notes?
 
Well, for the typical VP, you are right and they are merely the insurance policy. But, I'll be kind and ask, for the last say 24 months, has Joe's presidency been anything close to typical? Someone besides Joe has been doing their best Nancy Reagan impersonation. Our VP has been positioning for all that time claiming she was the last one there, in the room, when Joe was "deciding". That's not the typical VP waiting for the random heart attack, stroke, or bullet.
You're confusing being in the room/giving advice with the power to make a decision. That would be like saying a man has power to plan a wedding because he was in the room with the bride. The bride isn't going to care just like a president doesn't care. There's legit things you can attack her own. No need to try to reach for one.
 
You're confusing being in the room/giving advice with the power to make a decision. That would be like saying a man has power to plan a wedding because he was in the room with the bride. The bride isn't going to care just like a president doesn't care. There's legit things you can attack her own. No need to try to reach for one.
She was put in charge of the border, that worked out great...
 
  • Like
Reactions: bluetoe
You're confusing being in the room/giving advice with the power to make a decision. That would be like saying a man has power to plan a wedding because he was in the room with the bride. The bride isn't going to care just like a president doesn't care. There's legit things you can attack her own. No need to try to reach for one.
you're forgetting that this isn't a normal case. This is like saying a man has the power to plan a wedding because he was in the wedding planning room with the bride, but the bride wasn't exactly in the room.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: nctransplant
That's behind a paywall for me, but it appears to be an opinion piece. When it comes to deciding if I like someone's policy, other people's opinions don't matter to me. But I think you might be under the impression that I want to learn about them right now. I don't. I'm waiting for the debate before I decide if I want to take the time to read about her policies. If she can't impress me during the debate, then I doubt I'll waste my time reading her policies.
 
She was put in charge of the border, that worked out great...
And what power did she have at the border besides being able to make speeches? She literally has a legit record to attack, but it's being ignored. I'm sure she's ok with that, but Trump would be better off making legit arguments instead of talking points for his base.
 
And what power did she have at the border besides being able to make speeches? She literally has a legit record to attack, but it's being ignored. I'm sure she's ok with that, but Trump would be better off making legit arguments instead of talking points for his base.
She's running away from her record and the liberal media is slurping it up therefore the sheep slurp it up.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bluetoe
Secondly, who determines how close something is to stealing? There's stealing and there's NOT stealing, but 'close to' stealing is just liberal gibberish. In terms of wisdom, It's akin to the liberal notion that if I'm not contributing to you, then I'm stealing from you.
Same types of people, mostly elected officials, who made the pre-existing price-gouging laws.
"Legislation can be scary, but it's better than mayhem that allows monopolistic greed and exploitative greed to run amok."

That's crap. Legislation to combat 'monopolistic greed and exploitative greed' is just leftist attempts to control our lives and nudge us toward socialism and away from capitalism..

I might be shocked at what the drug I'm prescribed costs, but more so than that, I'm pretty damn happy that the drug company was able to research and develop it and make it available so my life is better. The leftists say don't charge such an outrageous price for the drug I need and demand to have, a drug that I have some ethereal right to although it didn't even exist ten years ago.

Kinda sounds like you are saying you are pro-monopoly. Are you?
 
@pooponduke i think you've had lots of interest in RFK jr. He's it is - he's more pro-Trump than pro-DemTicket.



According to polls they've clearly been drawing from Trump more than the Dem ticket, and this confirms it, some might say explains it.
 
She was put in charge of the border, that worked out great...

the first part is incredibly telling.

She goes on to explain that the thrust of her efforts has been to understand and correct the underlying problem, which is why all these people are leaving their own country to gain access to ours. The stupidity inherent in that thought process and that approach is stunning. They are leaving their shithole because it's a shithole. You're not going to turn Guatemala into America, but you'll probably give them a gazillion dollars in the attempt. Meanwhile, why are we letting their problem become our problem?

This is like a backwards-thinking more-is-better lefty approach. If you have a bleeding patient, before you start massive transfusions, stop the bleeding. If a patient has a cancerous tumor, cut out the tumor before you find a cure for cancer. If you're being invaded by millions of illegals, stop the invasion....

It should be abundantly clear to anyone who puts even a dab of thought into this, that the illegals were allowed into the country because Biden/Harris wanted them in. It's so weird, the dem sheep even recently said they recognized that the border was a huge problem that made them support Biden less, and now here they are beating the band supporting the person largely responsible for the border problem.
 
@pooponduke i think you've had lots of interest in RFK jr. He's it is - he's more pro-Trump than pro-DemTicket.



According to polls they've clearly been drawing from Trump more than the Dem ticket, and this confirms it, some might say explains it.
Thanks. I just want an explanation of the logic/thinking behind dumping a bear in Central Park. That cracks me up every time I think about it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: blazers
Same types of people, mostly elected officials, who made the pre-existing price-gouging laws.


Kinda sounds like you are saying you are pro-monopoly. Are you?
kinda sounds like you might have a fishy way of deciding what's a monopoly and what isn't..
 
And what power did she have at the border besides being able to make speeches? She literally has a legit record to attack, but it's being ignored. I'm sure she's ok with that, but Trump would be better off making legit arguments instead of talking points for his base.
She had ZERO power at the border and was never “put in charge”. Total bullshit. She was told to help with the diplomatic relations with the Central American countries involved in their citizens migrating. She boosted aid to the top three countries involved and traveled there to discourage people making the trip. She failed in that respect annd deserves criticism in that regard. Obviously anyways it was way too little way too late to do anything but that blame falls on biden and dept of homeland security.
 
  • Like
Reactions: tarheel0910
That's behind a paywall for me, but it appears to be an opinion piece. When it comes to deciding if I like someone's policy, other people's opinions don't matter to me. But I think you might be under the impression that I want to learn about them right now. I don't. I'm waiting for the debate before I decide if I want to take the time to read about her policies. If she can't impress me during the debate, then I doubt I'll waste my time reading her policies.
Here's her actual webpage for the campaign. If you can find ANY POLICY or plans on it, let everyone know. Under the Meet her tab, there is a bunch of stuff claiming all the successes of the current administration, so, she still wants it both ways. She asserts she's not just been sitting there behind a door that says "In case of fire, break glass" on it.

https://kamalaharris.com/
 
She had ZERO power at the border and was never “put in charge”. Total bullshit. She was told to help with the diplomatic relations with the Central American countries involved in their citizens migrating. She boosted aid to the top three countries involved and traveled there to discourage people making the trip. She failed in that respect annd deserves criticism in that regard. Obviously anyways it was way too little way too late to do anything but that blame falls on biden and dept of homeland security.
Well, this is just false, revisionist history. She was the Border Czar and plenty of liberal news outlets referred to her as such - back then. Now, even with the rewriting of actual events, in her redefined role, she still was charged with being the administration's person for tackling the issue of the "root causes." That's simply not gone well because the truth of the matter is that they didn't want to limit immigration. Too much has come out about the pathway to citizenship, which means voting rights, and even being allowed to vote merely based on residence status versus citizenship.

Taking @tarheel0910 's line of thinking to heart, where on earth do you come up with the notion that she had the power to do so and therefore "boosted aid" to anyone??
 
  • Like
Reactions: gunslingerdick
Trump would be better off making legit arguments instead of talking points for his base.
1000% agree. He needs to focus solely on those couple of % points of people still on the fence. Everyone already voting for him ain't moving because of the shining new coin. They are almost all staying home at this point. The only thing that matters are those few undecided, swing voters left in those few swing states.

The old saying was, It's the economy stupid. Trump's saying should be, It's the swing voters stupid.
 
  • Like
Reactions: tarheel0910
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT