It's not about fear of spending. My point was why take it in the name of fairness (which you still haven't defined) if nothing changes? Seems weird to take something from someone when it doesn't make a difference.
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it's called principle. No one is objecting to the collection of taxes, and I personally agree with the rates being progressive. But taxing the rich at a much higher rate just because they ARE rich is not a fair practice, and it also isn't a sound practice when that money isn't going toward what the country needs in order to become solvent, and to thereby allow the accumulation of wealth by anyone who endeavors to do so. The most unfair thing about picking on the wealthy is that the need to even consider doing do comes from irresponsible spending.
Debt interest is our third highest expenditure, almost a trillion dollars at this point. Imagine what that money could do if we weren't basically throwing it down the drain.
How to STOP SPENDING IRRESPONSIBLY is what we should be conversing about. Once we decide to have some responsibility there, THEN we should talk about who pays what in taxes. The economy of a nation, especially ours, is an extremely complcated subject...in the details. But basically, managing our economy is no different than running a household. You start getting in over your head, you don't go out and rob some wealthy people, you start trimming your expenses and paying down your debt. You don't make a budget that spends more than you're taking in and exceeds some agreed-upon limit then hold your partner hostage to allowing it because of what you threaten to do to the marriage if they don't go along. Jesus Christ, making the numbskulls here understand is bad enough, but it's beyond belief that the leaders of an entire country need to tune in to Dave Ramsey.
The accumulation of wealth isn't a bad thing, it's a very good thing. It isn't just good for the individual, it's good for the country. Stop making this about the wealthy and make it about what most things should be about....common sense.
you know that might work because most of the illegals who can swim are already here.
Kiss of death?
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says he's suspending his presidential bid and backing Donald Trump
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. suspended his independent campaign for president Friday and endorsed Donald Trump.
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It will require raising taxes AND cutting spending. It always has and it always will.
Oh, so that's why.Kiss of death?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says he's suspending his presidential bid and backing Donald Trump
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. suspended his independent campaign for president Friday and endorsed Donald Trump.
Timothy is the grandson of Andrew Mellon, and an heir to the Mellon banking fortune. As of June 2024, Forbes estimated the Mellon family's net worth at $14.1 billion. We gotta reform campaign financing...
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more votes is the kiss of death? Oh, you mean the k.o.d. for Harris. My bad.Kiss of death?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says he's suspending his presidential bid and backing Donald Trump
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. suspended his independent campaign for president Friday and endorsed Donald Trump.
I like New Zealand's approach: "If you swim here, you can stay."
I just need a number before I can form an opinion on if that will work. Nobody seems to be able to tell me the number. I suspect they just want a bumper sticker slogan and don't actually know what fair is.
Oligarchy. This is an oligarchy. It always has been, relatively speaking. It goes back to the fvcking pharaohs.Oh, so that's why.
Timothy is the grandson of Andrew Mellon, and an heir to the Mellon banking fortune. As of June 2024, Forbes estimated the Mellon family's net worth at $14.1 billion. We gotta reform campaign financing...
When I saw the tidal wave behind Harris, it was evident that the $$$ wanted her. The $$$ gets what it wants.
The $$$ bets across-the-board, and wins every time.
And, how do you imagine that will ever happen? It's not remotely possible in the current situation. The beloved Democrats are just as motivated to keep the status quo and those evil Republicans.
What gave RFK confidence, if that's what you want to call it, to endorse Trump was Trump convincing him that they are alike in their victimhood and promising him face time on the national stage, AND Kamala Harris saying no thanks to his offer to join her campaign. It's obvious which remaining candidate made a better judgment on that one.Oh, so that's why.
Keep in mind that RFK's supporters are comprised mostly of disenchanted Trump supporters. I doubt those same individuals are going to retreat back to the Trump camp now. And among RFK supporters, more have a favorable view of Harris and more have an unfavorable view of Trump.
And last -- and this is the best part of all -- RFK is going to go on the road and campaign with Trump and Vance. Can you image that harebrained cast of characters going from city to city trying to drum up support among middle America?
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Yeah, I heard several weeks ago that he had approached the Harris campaign and wanted a cabinet post and they turned him down. IMO this will wind up hurting Trump far more then it will help him.
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A clear case of trying out for the winning team but settling for a roster spot on the losing team. It's all about playing time.
I'm not focusing solely on the national polls, but for the sake of brevity that's the one I have consistently been sharing on this board. Trust me, I'm well aware that Kamala Harris is leading Trump in polling in six of the seven swing states, including North Carolina.
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I deleted my post because for some reason I lost the link. Yours seem to still be working.
The RFK topic is one that I think we can all agree. MAGA is glad to have him and so are the democrats.
trump doesn’t gaf about rfk’s position on chemicals in food or chronic diseases…this is hilarious.
I liked the satirical, funny Carlin better than the paranoid, unfunny cynical one shown here.
Paranoid? There wasn't the slightest hint of paranoia in what he said. It was also delivered in a very funny way, especially given the content of the material. I will agree that there's a little cynicism... very little. He tried his best to tell the truth with enough comedy thrown in to make it palatable. It's hardly my favorite one of his takes. It's not pleasant. But, he told it like it is.
The story about the bear was just... in-fvcking-sane. The brain worm was a stretch, but the bear? He's a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
I don't think I've ever heard Trump go that far down the rabbit hole.
Almost dying in a helicopter with Willie Brown, while Brown decides it's a perfect time to inform his fellow doomed passenger of his grievances with his former love interest... was close.
I assume the canal will have lots of shipping traffic. Wouldn't want the sharks to get hurt.
Imagine them together in a crisis. They'll either have all of the bases covered, or none of them.
Forrest Gump's box of chocolates.
That's not a team you put in charge of anything important.
I'm not quite sure what you are asking. Which numbers about what?
But it sounds like this is the kind of conversation we should be having on this board - instead of the endless pissing contests and name-calling.
My rule #1 is to pay the bills. No deficit. No borrowing. Except maybe in the case of a declared emergency.
Cutting spending doesn't pay today's bills. It can shrink tomorrow's bills, but anybody who only wants to cut spending isn't being serious. Set the budget on course to pay all the bills; then talk about cuts.
I wouldn't mind seeing a rational, reasonable balanced budget amendment, but I doubt we could ever get one.
My sister used to run a home-based business. I vaguely recall her saying that her business had to show a profit every so often if she wanted to take deductions other years. Or something like that. I wasn't paying much attention. IIRC, she had to show a profit once every 3 years or 2 out of 5 years.
The thought being that a balanced budget amendment might want to include a minimal, hard requirement to balance the budget every so often.
After sleeping on it, I've determined the best option would actually be Amazonian piranhas.
Kiss of death?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says he's suspending his presidential bid and backing Donald Trump
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. suspended his independent campaign for president Friday and endorsed Donald Trump.
I love how you two have decided that since RFK is now Team Trump, he will take orange down and Kamelblow never ever wanted his supporters and turned him down.
I wonder where that super secret info is coming from???? Could this be similar to the campaign staffer "leaks" that Beyonce and/or Swift were gonna be special guests to perform to get the rating numbers up and when it didn't happen and was confirmed that it was never happening, they tried to back track and say that Kackles was the special guest? Just stupid and not even all that slick.
I'm not sure what or where he learned about the aquatic world, but I must admit that I learned some biology from an occasional viewing of Baywatch.
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