Well fortunately for Trump he didn't tie himself to Robinson at all.
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But here's the thing about that. And, I say this fully admitting that both sides would be doing the same thing and jumping on this like dog on a bone.
If this is in fact Robinson and CNN's leapfrogging of connecting it to him are 100% spot on, how was Trump or anyone else suppose to know about it from up to 16 years ago when these revelations are just now emerging? Why not when he was running for Lt. Gov.? Why now when they not only crush Robinson, but can be used by to attack Trump?
The only answer is two possibilities. One is that this was known and put away to be used when most effective. But it had to be known by only a few because there is no way that this stuff was well known and Trump or anyone else would get behind him expecting it not to come out. The other possibility is that it literally was just discovered. If that's the case, then only the haters would hold it against orange. You can only judge someone with what is known. If that changes, opinions can also change.
There is the third possibility that it's all bs and is just an attempt at a "September Surprise" which is, of course, the current day version of the October Surprise created due to the advent of early voting, etc.
You didn't need to know about the CNN stuff. What the man has said and did the last few years is enough. Trump was fine with knowing all that. Give Trump credit for knowing his supporters.
I also thought I'd share this info. I'm sure others can/will chime in on the validity of the study and the organization itself, but the results of this study are a HUGE issue related to much of what we've discussed here. This is a quote from the abstract that pretty much sums it up:
We find that some non-citizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and Congressional elections. Non-citizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0261379414000973
We find that some non-citizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and Congressional elections. Non-citizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0261379414000973
"if your point is that you don't need to do anything to end the baby's life because the child will die of natural causes as it is "nonviable", then you should just say that."
That's the whole point of his quote. Lol. Can you now corrected all of the dopes who keep lying about his comments?
Translation: I was wrong so let me shift the goal posts.
You seem to be saying that there's something wrong with growing up middle class.
You seem to be saying that having a career as a prosecutor is bad.
You seem to be saying that having stable values is bad.
Is that what all MAGAs believe these days?
Kinda weird.
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are you saying that sucking Willie Brown's dick, who was married at the time, to get ahead is admirable? Is that what all libs believe these days?
As to the bolded, having stable values is not in and of itself a bad thing as long as 1) those values aren't Marxist in nature and 2) you don't suddenly adopt a decidedly different set of values in trying to get elected. Do all libs think otherwise these days?
What I saw was a list of things we know about Harris. I didn't see any commentary made on how those things should or might be considered until you did so. Is jumping to negative conclusions and putting words in MAGAS' mouths what all libs do these days?
Kinda, you just answered my questions. But the MAGAs are the ones with questionable character?
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Glad we had Sherlock Holmes here to crack this one. You're right - definitely a Trumper. After all, what better way to scream your allegiance for someone than to try to put a bullet in their head?
It's preferred, actually. The former produces more abortion candidates, and the latter produces more future voters for their party.
A lot of people question MAGA people's character. I mean who in their right mind would not question Trump about his character, Mark Robinson about his, Matt Gaetz etc. etc.
it doesn't make sense to you because you have a severe case of racism on the brain, as your post reveals.A black man wanting slavery to come back is like a Rabbi hoping the Nazis gain power in the United States. That doesn't make sense. Do Neo-Nazi groups allow black members? I think that's sort of a hard-No on admission... unless...
A slave is a slave and a slaveowner is a slaveowner regardless of race. Slavery is not about race, it's about having complete control over another human being. Throughout history, most slavery...which was commonly practiced...involved slaves and slaveowners being of the same race. MANY black slaves were enslaved by black slaveowners. When Robinson says that some people SHOULD be slaves, I couldn't agree with him more. If I was the Grand Poobah, many deserving criminals would serve a sentence of bondage and race wouldn't enter into it.
Actually I take that back. I think of the POS in Fayetteville some years ago who sought membership in some skinhead organization and as initiation gunned down and killed an elderly black couple out enjoying an evening stroll. ONE a-hole juror kept him off death row, a sentence he richly earned. Being given life instead, you can believe he would regret every stinking second of the rest of his, if I had my way; and enslavement to willing black people would be on the table.
That race happened to be part of the makeup of the particular circumstance of slavery that has narrowed your mind so much that you aren't capable of thinking your way out of a wet paper bag, is inconsequential to the overall matter of slavery.
Those of us who haven't allowed ourselves to become hysterically sensitized to the mere mention of the word slave can relax and ponder wistfully...or even pointedly as Robinson did....how nice it might be to have someone do your heavy lifting for you. I actually appreciate the fact that slavery has been a largely accepted institution up until the time that it no longer needed to exist. Know why? Because if not for the practice of slavery, the civilizations that led to our even being able to have this conversation would not have ever existed in such a way. And yet, I can commiserate with the plight of the slave....assuming that the slave wasn't happy with his position, which many were.
This is just another nothingburger that some thoughtlessly overreact to and virtue-signal over. I do not and have not ever condoned any current practice of slavery, but I also have managed to keep my mind free of emotional Pavlovian reactions to harmless wistful musings. You should try it, it's quite...liberating.
Robinson hasn't really warmed my cockles, although many things he espouses I am in tune with. You won't find me supporting him anywhere, just because he hasn't seemed to present a full set of leadership qualities that I can take to. But that being said, his candor in voicing what so many others have kept to themselves out of fear of ostracizing by the liberal thought police makes me admire him. I actually yearn for a world where people can express themselves without causing the weak-minded to shit their pants over the use of a mere word.
well you named three whose character you seem to suggest is questionable. Are there more? Does that cover all of MAGA people? Do you just insist on displaying such cluelessness? Because cluelessness is what you are displaying by not recognizing the obvious point that the character of both left and right and lib and MAGA and everything in between can be questioned, but if one questions one side he should question the other as well.
GD man, nobody reads your novels. None of them contain any sense at all, you just throw it out and expect people to reads your drivel. You might be a great guy in real life but here you come across as a.. hell I'm not going to say it. have a good weekend.
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You can't play the "Oh they are all bad too" card. MAGA is at a level that no other group has gotten to.
I can't? OK. But can I play the usual 'you're an idiot' card? Because you really are.
you used humor while making a point, which I dissected. That isn't the same as simply making a joke.
I made a joke. Check your emotions.
you can say it. That's what we are here for. But if you as usual claim that it doesn't make sense or that I'm saying nothing, I have to suspect that you just aren't very capable of discerning the meaning that things contain.
It always bemuses me that people come here and say they've read an article or even a book, but that reading a lengthy post is somehow beyond their ability.
I have prodded you and prodded you to stop doing what you accuse me of. Instead of making empty judgements that say nothing, how about actually reading something and addressing the points being offered. Don't just say 'I object'. Say WHY you find it objectionable and what you think makes more sense.
BTW, that's drivel, not dibble. A dibble is what you make a hole in the dirt with.
I keep forgetting that white supremacy has nothing to do with race. Mea Culpa.
you keep missing that the point of my post was about overreacting needlessly to the mention of slavery and slaves.
It took a novella to say that? Duly noted.
Do you even KNOW Clarence Bigsby??? If not, then... shit, never mind.
Wait a tick... you thought this in your mind... then typed it... then hit "post reply?"
You actually believe that shit??? Newsflash, it still exists. It exists in more abundance than any other time in history. So... you probably feel better now. Thank god that humans believe it's "right" to own other people. Hell, the Bible tells me so!
You actually believe that shit??? Newsflash, it still exists. It exists in more abundance than any other time in history. So... you probably feel better now. Thank god that humans believe it's "right" to own other people. Hell, the Bible tells me so!
You are, of course, absolutely correct on this point. It is just one of the things wrong with the way history is filtered in our system. Even here, on this very land, there were slaves of the same race as their "owners" long before Columbus sailed the ocean blue. But, speaking of this larger universe of human existence ignores the reality of the American experience. More importantly, it ignores the teaching and concept of slavery "historically" in our country, particularly with the recent adopting of things such as the fictional work known as the 1619 Project.
Thus, in America, any reference to slavery always and only means white men owning black men. Which is why it is so odd to me that it would be attributed to Robinson in making such statements. Other than the normal piling on that will be done by the media and the D's simply to win the gubernatorial election and hurt orange in NC, have there been any further legitimate developments proving one way or the other the truth of the alleged connection of the posts to him?
Why??????
Did we elect her????????
And you guys think I'm off my rocker that there's been a massive, concerted coverup as to what's really been going on.
Did we elect her????????
And you guys think I'm off my rocker that there's been a massive, concerted coverup as to what's really been going on.
The best part is how the NBC reporter phrases his closing line:
. . . but there is still a lot of work that THEY both intend to do during THEIR last few months in office here."
. . . but there is still a lot of work that THEY both intend to do during THEIR last few months in office here."
Clever, but the difference is neither I nor my fellow libs have ever said anything remotely like that - whereas I was responding to direct comments in each of my "you seem to be saying" observations.
BTW I have no idea - nor do I care - if she sucked Willie Brown's dick. It is rather interesting that MAGAs seem obsessed about it, though.
To make her behavior worth comparing with what Trump brags about, Kamala would have had to force Willie to let her suck his willy, against his wishes. Possible, I suppose, but rather hard to imagine.
I agree with you on this one. But you MAGAs don't seem to care when Trump does the same, over and over.
So, yes, Kamala's change on fracking and abandonment of Medicare for All bother me. Moreover, what good has it done her? You still call her Marxist.
LMAO. You have been rendered completely mindless by your need to virtue signal. You always do the same thing, you maintain a semblance of reason up to a point and then you go off the deep end....ignoring facts, mischaracterizing intent, making outlandish claims, etc.
But hell maybe you're right. I think I'll run down to the local slave market and pick up a slave or two just for the weekend....hope all the really good ones haven't already been taken.
well, you certainly can't take for granted that anything alleged at this point holds water, but for the sake of argument I assume it does. Just guessing, but I imagine if true that Robinson was in his way ridiculing the same thing that I do, the leftist obsession with slavery and racism as it existed in this country. There are a good number of black people on the internet who reject the victimhood being assigned to them by clueless liberals. I'm like Morgan Freeman. When The View idiots (or at least I think that's who it was) asked him what should or could be done about racism, he said succinctly, 'stop talking about it'. Amen, brother. Stop churning out ill will and talk about individuals as citizens to be treated as any other citizen and not as part of a group of some particular skin color.
I jumped on @strummingram's post because he immediately did exactly what we are talking about; he reacted to the word 'slave' and ignored the overall concept and history of slavery in order to virtue signal about racism. He wants you to believe that racism is rampant, but he has no clue that he is why it exists as it does.
I don't care what Robinson had in mind when he said what he allegedly did. You can believe he was being sage, or you can believe he actually thinks he's a white supremacist, but either way there's no reason to go apeshit over a few spoken words which harbor harm only in the minds of overly indoctrinated sheep.
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