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shit, what is it now, 15 or so? Why even have an election, it's all over.

I can just imagine people following Arnold's drivel and following suit on voting for Harris. Arnold finished his governorship with disapproval ratings in the 60 + % range. In this drivel, he harps on Trump challenging the election he lost and says Trump will divide the country. Well wake up there Arnold, the country is already divided and the political obstructionism waged against Trump as president is exactly why it's divided..
 
do you have even an inkling of how moronic it is to meet an effort to return us to responsible spending with negativity? Of course there would be pain, because that's what it takes to avoid the much greater pain we are headed for, not to mention the current pain of paying the interest on our debt such that that has become the second largest consumer of our taxes. We better wake up and decide to live with some responsibility. The government has become a monster that is almost beyond being reeled in.

And here you go along with the usuals, crying about lies on one hand and crying about honesty on the other. You just want to cry about something. You must be a liberal.
 
oh, but it won't be a permanent collapse, we think, just a few years, then we'll bounce back stronger as a country. And of course it won't hurt billionaires much during those few yrs, just the middle class, the poor, people remotely close to paycheck-to-paycheck.
why is it imprinted in the brains of you and your ilk that billionaires are to be punished for being successful? How do you not understand that they should be venerated and held up as examples of what can be achieved? Where does the resentment come from? I wager that I grew up as poor as anyone here and have been lucky enough to escape the bottom to become reasonably comfortable. I had to work my ass off and literally at times grovel in dirt to do it. At no time did I resent the fact that so many had much more than me. I am HAPPY that we have a system that rewards those who strive to achieve the top, and yet allows those who have no such ambition to live better than the rest of the world anyway.

There are examples of the filthy rich attaining wealth in a wrong way and of course I don't support that. But it's the 'wrong way' part that needs correcting, not the 'filthy rich' part.
 
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How about evil complicit, or evil adjacent?

We don't have to vote for terrible candidates. If we do, are we not responsible?

How terrible do they have to be before we can use the term "evil."
dude, I sincerely hope that one day your brainwashing will expire. I think it would be a pleasure to have a conversation with you unburdened by what has been imprinted on you.
 
shit, what is it now, 15 or so? Why even have an election, it's all over.

I can just imagine people following Arnold's drivel and following suit on voting for Harris. Arnold finished his governorship with disapproval ratings in the 60 + % range. In this drivel, he harps on Trump challenging the election he lost and says Trump will divide the country. Well wake up there Arnold, the country is already divided and the political obstructionism waged against Trump as president is exactly why it's divided..

Lol. Ok Mr. Trumptard. What's your affinity for fat, whiney bitches like trump? Is he just your "type"? Are you really into rapist felons?
 
Lol. Ok Mr. Trumptard. What's your affinity for fat, whiney bitches like trump? Is he just your "type"? Are you really into rapist felons?
you want to know what I think a retard is? A retard is someone who salivates whenever he gets the chance to say Trump and 'rapist felon' in the same post while simultaneously idolizing the POS rapist Bill Clinton who bought his way out of the same circumstance. You're just a mindless partisan hack, flailing away and filling the board with inanity gathered from wherever you can find it. You show no capacity for discussing a point on your own..

I doubt you really even care what your chosen side does or desires to do. I doubt you actually know much about that. You're just a less intelligent @Heels Noir, a pinhead alter ego of his. I don't take you seriously at all and I'm pretty sure no one else does. But you can ask them.
 
you want to know what I think a retard is? A retard is someone who salivates whenever he gets the chance to say Trump and 'rapist felon' in the same post while simultaneously idolizing the POS rapist Bill Clinton who bought his way out of the same circumstance. You're just a mindless partisan hack, flailing away and filling the board with inanity gathered from wherever you can find it. You show no capacity for discussing a point on your own..

I doubt you really even care what your chosen side does or desires to do. I doubt you actually know much about that. You're just a less intelligent @Heels Noir, a pinhead alter ego of his. I don't take you seriously at all and I'm pretty sure no one else does. But you can ask them.

You can't even take reality seriously.
 
This is what Republicans are doing

I wonder if any reasonable person even bothers to read these articles, since they know they are going to get half the story with the bonus of any facts presented being those that out of context tend to lay blame for misfortune at the feet of republicans. Sorry for the ladies but ho hum for the story.
 
let's see...Dr. Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the moon and a man who graduated third in his class at West Point ( moonwalker ) ...or Arnold Schwarzenegger, a bodybuilder turned actor. Wow, this is tough, deciding whose lead to follow here.
let’s see…he’s talking about how important trump saw space exploration…i mean, it’s an important cause to him, respect, but an important cause today?…nah.

it also doesn’t mean he’s of sound mine…he’s older than arnold, trump, and biden.
 
let’s see…he’s talking about how important trump saw space exploration…i mean, it’s an important cause to him, respect, but an important cause today?…nah.

it also doesn’t mean he’s of sound mine…he’s older than arnold, trump, and biden.
dude, look at the coherence he speaks with. Then look at his amazingly accomplished background. Then tell me you'd rather listen to 'notatoomah' guy.
 
How about evil complicit, or evil adjacent?

We don't have to vote for terrible candidates. If we do, are we not responsible?

How terrible do they have to be before we can use the term "evil."
How terrible is "evil?" How many "bad's" are there in an an "awful?" I guess they could be considered evil-complicit. But, how evil is it when, supposedly, 50% of the people think it's just fine?

It's sorta like the Musk assessment above that predicts how Trump's economic plans will ruin the US Economy. If the electoral college puts him in office, and his leadership ruins the economy... I guess that's what was necessary to convince the half that wanted it so bad. If they all lose their health insurance, and get sick and die or their families are dying at a higher rate... and their economy is in ruin... they might be open to a different way and then vote for it.
 
why is it imprinted in the brains of you and your ilk that billionaires are to be punished for being successful? How do you not understand that they should be venerated and held up as examples of what can be achieved? Where does the resentment come from? I wager that I grew up as poor as anyone here and have been lucky enough to escape the bottom to become reasonably comfortable. I had to work my ass off and literally at times grovel in dirt to do it. At no time did I resent the fact that so many had much more than me. I am HAPPY that we have a system that rewards those who strive to achieve the top, and yet allows those who have no such ambition to live better than the rest of the world anyway.

There are examples of the filthy rich attaining wealth in a wrong way and of course I don't support that. But it's the 'wrong way' part that needs correcting, not the 'filthy rich' part.
Attaining wealth "the wrong way." You don't support that, huh? That's good news. It's great to see all of the Carnegies, Rockefellers, Vanderbilts, Morgans, etc., who were all above-the-board, square-dealing, wealthy operations! GMAFB!

Filthy rich attaining wealth the "right way" is like Porn stars who got into the porn industry to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
 
This is what Republicans are doing

OK, so this one voter checked the wrong box or something and she lost the right to vote along with 1599 others who needed to be legitimately purged. Oh no, woe is us. Shit happens, and it can be reversed if she cares to work on that instead of whining about her own mistake while some journalistic hack sells his product to his usual willing and whiny audience.
 
dude, look at the coherence he speaks with. Then look at his amazingly accomplished background. Then tell me you'd rather listen to 'notatoomah' guy.
i’m looking at a tweet…even someone got sleepy joe’s tweets in form before he fired them off…arnold’s farm animals as pets are more of a concern to me.

when elon musk is on twitter more than any other social media mogul, i have to wonder how close this is…why is someone with that much influence on there if there wasn’t a need for it?…it’s not because he owns it.

eta: i don’t think it’s close…i think the scare tactics are out so trump has some sort of basis to not concede…he’s already complaining in swing states while states like kansas are within margins…we’re talking about kansas, not virginia…we’re talking about kansas.
 
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i’m looking at a tweet…even someone got sleepy joe’s tweets in form before he fired them off…arnold’s farm animals as pets are more of a concern to me.

when elon musk is on twitter more than any other social media mogul, i have to wonder how close this is…why is someone with that much influence on there if there wasn’t a need for it?…it’s not because he owns it.
I'm thinking that it's because he has something influential he wants to say. Just surmising. I don't tweet/X/ whatever the F, so my opinion here doesn't carry the same massive weight it does otherwise.
 
I hadn't seen that. Thanks for posting that! Triumph makes life better. I wondered if he would show up before the election!

When he shows up as the J6 shaman... classic! "Liberal tears!"

"When I look at you, I start to think groceries aren't expensive enough!"
the greatest part of this is that those idiots laughed at the jokes about themselves.
 
Attaining wealth "the wrong way." You don't support that, huh? That's good news. It's great to see all of the Carnegies, Rockefellers, Vanderbilts, Morgans, etc., who were all above-the-board, square-dealing, wealthy operations! GMAFB!

Filthy rich attaining wealth the "right way" is like Porn stars who got into the porn industry to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
well, first of all, you should understand that Jesus would have been the first to welcome the support of all manner of wrongdoers....if you consider porn stars wrongdoers. I don't, at least not any more than the rest of us.

That being said, I wonder how you put forth those other words without feeling foolish. Of course I wonder about that with you anyway, but I digress. All wealth is not attained wrongfully. Some is. I allowed for the both the wealth that is and the wealth that isn't.. What exactly is it you think you're adding here? Oh wait, I see, you're just doing your usual...you are creating a virtue-signal out of something I didn't allude to or exclude so you can display some good ol' moral indignance. Good show. .
 
well, first of all, you should understand that Jesus would have been the first to welcome the support of all manner of wrongdoers....if you consider porn stars wrongdoers. I don't, at least not any more than the rest of us.

That being said, I wonder how you put forth those other words without feeling foolish. Of course I wonder about that with you anyway, but I digress. All wealth is not attained wrongfully. Some is. I allowed for the both the wealth that is and the wealth that isn't.. What exactly is it you think you're adding here? Oh wait, I see, you're just doing your usual...you are creating a virtue-signal out of something I didn't allude to or exclude so you can display some good ol' moral indignance. Good show. .
Yes, Jesus would... but, Christians would NEVER welcome the support or be forgiving of it. That's the point. Jesus is long gone and Christians are all that's left.

It's just a dumbass thing to say that you "don't approve of improper wealth attainment." It's so fukin subjective! What is "wealth" and what constitutes "improper" acquisition? It's a bullshit statement. If it's someone you personally like, or approve of, you can weave a yarn of excuses to justify any potential immorality.
 
do you care more about space exploration or the ocean rising?
it isn't about space exploration so let's be clear about that. That being said...

I am for space exploration to the effect that it enhances our life here on Earth and the Earth itself. Beyond that I am absolutely opposed to things like Musk's dream of going to Mars. I think it is entirely stupid to waste money and brainpower on that sort of irrelevancy.. At some point much further down the road when technology has made it much more feasible and hopefully we haven't developed and paved every open square inch of wildlife habitat, then fine go for it. But there are massive needs to spend money on this planet, and addressing global warming is one of those needs.

I have tried to make it plain that I am as conservative as Atilla the Hun, but my greatest priority is the very Earth we inhabit.

There are tons of republicans who deny science. There are just as many libs who champion science but who don't understand the first thing regarding it. Science and technology has made our lives almost a living dream compared to the default human condition over time. But science and technology has been stupidly used to provide immediate gratification at the expense of long-term well-being. If we had a collective sense of reason instead of a collective sense of 'what about me?', we would support the sciences and technology as much as possible, because doing so would no doubt give us a heaven on Earth we wouldn't need to fight over.
 
Yes, Jesus would... but, Christians would NEVER welcome the support or be forgiving of it. That's the point. Jesus is long gone and Christians are all that's left.
then that's what you should have referenced. I have no love of religion, Christian or otherwise. But as I have mentioned before, Jesus rules (for the most part) in my book. But that was NOT your point. You weren't taking a Christian POV, you were assigning wrongdoing to porn in your own mind, even if only for the sake of your misguided argument..


It's just a dumbass thing to say that you "don't approve of improper wealth attainment." It's so fukin subjective! What is "wealth" and what constitutes "improper" acquisition? It's a bullshit statement. If it's someone you personally like, or approve of, you can weave a yarn of excuses to justify any potential immorality.
anything is a dumbass thing to say when you want to virtue-signal about it. People who don't have such a need would understand that everything we deal with is subjective to some extent. What's dumb is to suggest that you can't opine on something because of its subjectivity, or refuse to discuss something because individual opinions vary. OF COURSE it's all subjective but so what? We decide by various methods to pigeonhole and draw lines, and then we live with them until we change them. The idealization that you insist on there being not only does not exist, it's unattainable. It's better to strive for some collective ideal while recognizing the limitations...and not crawling under some philosophical rock because the world isn't perfect.

I suppose in that bizzarro world of yours, we just sit and watch it all do whatever its going to do and virtue-signal our asses off over our not achieving an unachievable perfection..
 
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then that's what you should have referenced. I have no love of religion, Christian or otherwise. But as I have mentioned before, Jesus rules (for the most part) in my book. But that was NOT your point. You weren't taking a Christian POV, you were assigning wrongdoing to porn in your own mind, even if only for the sake of your misguided argument..



anything is a dumbass thing to say when you want to virtue-signal about it. People who don't have such a need would understand that everything we deal with is subjective to some extent. What's dumb is to suggest that you can't opine on something because of its subjectivity, or refuse to discuss something because individual opinions vary. OF COURSE it's all subjective but so what? We decide by various methods to pigeonhole and draw lines, and then we live with them until we change them. The idealization that you insist on there being not only does not exist, it's unattainable. It's better to strive for some collective ideal while recognizing the limitations...and not crawling under some philosophical rock because the world isn't perfect.

I suppose in that bizzarro world of yours, we just sit and watch it all do whatever its going to do and virtue-signal our asses off over our not achieving an unachievable perfection..
Jesus: The King of Virtue Signaling!

You're better off loving religion, it's what you do best.
 
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