Holding signs and shooting people are not "equal." But, both the sign holder and the murderer have the same disdain toward homosexuals.
Completely irrelevant.
Holding signs and shooting people are not "equal." But, both the sign holder and the murderer have the same disdain toward homosexuals.
Uhhhhhh are y'all serious? Or are you just willfully being ignorant for the sake of defending your argument (whatever it is?)
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Eh, you're comparing something that happened nearly a THOUSAND years ago in the very infancy of middle ages Europe and directed by the most corrupt organization of all time (the Catholic Church) with modern day mass killings. It's apples and oranges.Lol. Uhh.....no. If you're genuinely interested do some research. The historical record is quite different than the christian spin. This link is just a taste.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland_massacres
Exactly! I agree. But, to THEM, they are the ideal Christian. I'm NOT "judging all Christians by them" at all. I know full well that MOST of them are nothing like that group.That bunch is a despicable group. They are about as far as you can get from being "Christian" or "Baptist" for that matter. To judge all Christians by them is very narrow minded.
Muslim Extremists must laugh themselves to sleep every night. Joking around with each other "Can you believe we're toying with the most powerful country on Earth!? We kill their innocents for fun, and they could easily ban us, profile us, or completely decimate our entire home countries if they wanted to - but they're too busy worrying about our feelings!!! Let's go shoot up another place tomorrow and watch them make excuses for us - and convince themselves we'll eventually stop if they're nice to us!"
I didn't "ignore" it at all. I even put his religion in the same post. I just emphasized that he was a hater of homosexuals FIRST, and Muslim second. Not all Muslims hate homosexuals, just like not all Christians do.I love the way you conveniently ignore the Muslim prohibition of homosexuality, as if he just randomly hate gays, but NOT because he's a Muslim, and Muslims hate gays.
Willful ignorance.
Eh, you're comparing something that happened nearly a THOUSAND years ago in the very infancy of middle ages Europe and directed by the most corrupt organization of all time (the Catholic Church) with modern day mass killings. It's apples and oranges.
Fox News Correspondent, Gunslingerdick reporting live from Lynchburg, Virginia! Thanks, Dick.Not only that, but they're so sinister and so well planned that they know the infighting this causes and they know this infighting weakens us...so they're able to carry out more attacks. But we capitalistic, Christians are really the bad guy. Don't you forget it.
Yes, he is a good example of a Muslim. See @UNC71-00 's list. At some point, even the most bleeding heart liberal will have to admit to themselves that Muslims, by and large, want to kill non-Muslims everywhere.Exactly! I agree. But, to THEM, they are the ideal Christian. I'm NOT "judging all Christians by them" at all. I know full well that MOST of them are nothing like that group.
Now...
Do you think the guy that shot-up the club in Orlando is a good example of a Muslim? DO you think these extremists that blow people up are the typical Muslim? Should we judge all Muslims by the horrible actions of these few?
I just emphasized that he was a hater of homosexuals FIRST, and Muslim second.
Is it "against the law" to think that? No, it's not.There is no crime in hating someone and wishing them dead.
So, you accuse me of speculation. Then, you try to out-speculate me even more... Bravo! Hold the mirror a little higher.How the hell do you know which was the primary driver, and which was the secondary driver?
And even if you're right - him being a hater of homosexuals would entice him to maybe commit a hate crime against them (which could be anything from maybe writing anti-gay messages somewhere, to maybe beating one up, etc.). Him being a Muslim Extremist is what turned what could have been a relatively mundane hate crime into a huge massacre.
Is it "against the law" to think that? No, it's not.
Is it a "crime" to think that? Is it a crime to wish someone would die? If it were me, and I were thinking that, I would feel like a criminal... yes.
Well, I certainly don't spin the crusades as a noble thing and I'm a Christian. It was for greed. It didn't stop the Muslim push West. Charlemagne did that at the Battle of Tours in 732 (how do you like that historical recall? Lol).Yes and i capitulated to the fact that its long ago. But the christians of those times were just as adamant that they were doing the "will of god" as christians are today. The fact that christians still positively spin the crusades this very day (see deans post) as some sort of necessary holy endeavor blessed by God makes it relevant to the discussion imo.
So, you accuse me of speculation. Then, you try to out-speculate me even more... Bravo! Hold the mirror a little higher.
How about "lone wolf" christian inspired murderers? Timothy mcveigh? Eric rudolph?
Thank you!Yes, he is a good example of a Muslim. See @UNC71-00 's list. At some point, even the most bleeding heart liberal will have to admit to themselves that Muslims, by and large, want to kill non-Muslims everywhere.
The crazy WBC folks do not commit mass atrocities or even any atrocities. They're just loony bins who do dumb demonstrations. So what? Muslim extremists are KILLING people all over the world, every day. Someone will die today or tomorrow from a Muslim attack.
Is it "against the law" to think that? No, it's not.
Is it a "crime" to think that? Is it a crime to wish someone would die? If it were me, and I were thinking that, I would feel like a criminal... yes.
Do you think the guy that shot-up the club in Orlando is a good example of a Muslim? DO you think these extremists that blow people up are the typical Muslim? Should we judge all Muslims by the horrible actions of these few?
No... no, it is absolutely relevant. What I do to others, I do to myself. How I feel toward others, is reflective of how I feel toward myself.What you would feel is completely irrelevant.
Yes, he is a good example of a Muslim. See @UNC71-00 's list. At some point, even the most bleeding heart liberal will have to admit to themselves that Muslims, by and large, want to kill non-Muslims everywhere.
The crazy WBC folks do not commit mass atrocities or even any atrocities. They're just loony bins who do dumb demonstrations. So what? Muslim extremists are KILLING people all over the world, every day. Someone will die today or tomorrow from a Muslim attack.
I re-quoted my post that you're quoting as context for everyone else. How on God's green earth did you get your response from reading my post? You're just saying the same thing over and over, regardless of what people respond to you.Thank you!
You just exposed why this will only get worse and these attacks will continue.
YOU have no culpability. It's all someone else's fault. Your country, your religion, your way of thinking is always right, and theirs is always wrong. Great. So, when their refusal to bend shows up again, somewhere, we'll get more violence and revenge. Yay!
It all comes down to trade-offs? Who said so? You?This all comes down to trade-offs. What ratio of people inconvenienced to lives lost is a fair one for you?
Does making 1000 Muslim immigrants go through an extra strenuous background check to save 5 lives make sense to you - or is that too unfair? What if it was inconveniencing 500 Muslims to save 10 lives? Inconveniencing 100 to save 100? Just wondering on where you put the value on a human life as compared to the inconvenience of being lumped into a generalized judgement.
And, you plan of lumping them all together is going to bring us exatly what we have now, only more of it. And, it will decay our own civil liberties in the process.I re-quoted my post that you're quoting as context for everyone else. How on God's green earth did you get your response from reading my post? You're just saying the same thing over and over, regardless of what people respond to you.
Your plan of being a head-in-the-sand ostrich will. not. work.
Just ftr, i think the biggest threat to our nations security is radical islamic terrorist attacks. I just have a prob with christians pointing the finger as if we have no guilt or role in the dumpster fire thats the middle east.
Okay, so let's say we BAN ALL THE MUSLIMS (the good and the bad, every single one of them), we round them up and we get the OUT of the U.S., there are NO MORE MUSLIMS HERE... not one! Problem solved????
NOW, what do we do about the rest of the nuts that commit these mass shootings (the Dylann Roof's, the Jeffrey Weise's, the Doug Williams, the Michael McDermott's, the Larry Ashebrook's, the Mark Barton's, the Eric Harris and Dylan Kleibold's, the Robert Hawkins, the Jared Loughner's, the James Holmes, etc.... too many to list actually) Now the Muslims are gone, now what?
It all comes down to trade-offs? Who said so? You?
I'm glad you need an outlet for your statistics and logic. Start doing those sums and solve the problem mathematically. That won't have any repercussions, I'm sure.
Don't forget Palestine turned down the initial deal from the Brits that would've granted them much more land, and now they whine about not having more land. No one ever brings that up.Christians don't have much fault with what is going on in the Middle East, but Americans (and Western Europeans) certainly have some.
No... no, it is absolutely relevant. What I do to others, I do to myself. How I feel toward others, is reflective of how I feel toward myself.
No... no, it is absolutely relevant. What I do to others, I do to myself. How I feel toward others, is reflective of how I feel toward myself.
It all comes down to trade-offs? Who said so? You?
I'm glad you need an outlet for your statistics and logic. Start doing those sums and solve the problem mathematically. That won't have any repercussions, I'm sure.