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I think there is quite a mix of Christian and Muslim doing these things. Perhaps there is more of a connection with religion when Muslims commit these mass shootings but I think they happen with all different races/religious backgrounds and maybe the problem is more than that. Maybe we need to look at other things besides the religious angle.
http://timelines.latimes.com/deadliest-shooting-rampages/
 
I will quickly say this b/c I can't waste another day going around in circles.

Mike brings up a perfect point that I was raised with and firmly believe -- as a Christian, you are not to judge the person but you are not to agree with their sinful actions.

I completely understand the hypocrisy this creates when I very firmly also believe in the necessary actions needed to defend our country and the people who live here, which could easily be viewed as violating this Christian belief.

I do not want to hijack this thread and make it into some religious tangent that goes on forever -- I only mention this to hopefully provide some clarity on my belief. In terms of the Christian angle -- you should always attempt at peace first, which I firmly believe we have. But once you realize that will not work, you ARE permitted to use lethal force in self defense...and this is where I believe we are now. If you sit back and allow these people to kill more innocents and do nothing, then my interpretation is that we are just as guilty as they are at that point. I don't want this to get "twisted"...I simply believe we are at the point where "peace" with these terrorist cells, specifically, simply doesn't work. In order to "preserve life" as the Bible states, these people (aka "evil") must be taken out. JMHO
 
I'm just going to leave this here for all of the people who think that there is nothing out of the ordinary about the Religion of Peace. The first number is the number of deaths, the second is the number of injuries. This list is from the last 30 days.

During this time period, there were 217 Islamic attacks in 32 countries, in which 2186 people were killed and 2172 injured.



Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2016.06.13 India Kud 1 6 Muslim militants open fire from a bus, killing a woman and injuring a child.
2016.06.13 France Magnanville 2 1 A terrorist stabs a couple to death while shouting praises to Allah.
2016.06.12 Libya Sirte 3 7 A suicide bomber detonates at a hospital, taking three others with him.
2016.06.12 Philippines Samal Island 1 0 A Canadian hostage is beheaded by Abu Sayyaf.
2016.06.12 USA Orlando, FL 49 53 An Islamic extremist massacres forty-nine people at a gay nightclub.
2016.06.11 Syria Sayyida Zeinab 20 30 A double suicide bombing outside a Shiite mosque leaves at least twenty dead.
2016.06.11 Afghanistan Haska Mena 6 11 At least six are left dead after Islamic State members fire into a police station.
2016.06.10 Egypt Rafah 1 0 A young police recruit is cut down in the prime of life by Islamic radicals.
2016.06.10 Iraq Baghdad 3 11 A Shahid suicide bomber takes out three other souls.
2016.06.10 Iraq Fallujah 30 0 Islamists spray machine-gun fire into a crowd of women and children trying to flee the caliphate, killing at least thirty.
2016.06.10 Pakistan Lahore 3 1 A young couple are honor killed for marrying against their family's wishes along with a friend who helped them.
2016.06.10 Bangladesh Dhaka 1 0 A 62-year-old Hindu monastery worker is hacked to death by Religion of Peace proponents.
2016.06.10 Syria al-Zahraa 1 6 A civilian is killed when terrorists send a rocket into a home.
2016.06.10 Syria Aleppo 3 15 A young girl is among three civilians aerated by Sunni shrapnel.
2016.06.10 Syria Ghandoura 37 0 ISIS members massacre at least thirty-seven villagers, including women and children.
2016.06.10 Nigeria Mairari 4 0 Islamists drag four women out of their homes and slit their throats.
2016.06.10 Somalia Bula Fulay 4 0 A pro-Sharia group beheads one man and shoot three others.
2016.06.09 Pakistan Changa Manga 0 1 A Christian man is badly beaten by a Muslim mob for selling food deemed 'unclean' because of his religion.
2016.06.09 Syria Handarat 1 8 A Sunni rocket claims the life of a child.
2016.06.09 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A woman is stoned to death in front of a mosque for adultery.
2016.06.09 Iraq Kirkuk 1 5 A mother is killed by an IS IED while leading her family out of the caliphate.
2016.06.09 Iraq Baghdad 19 46 A Sunni suicide bomber targets a commercial district in a Shiite area, killing nineteen.
2016.06.09 Iraq Taji 12 32 A dozen Iraqis are sent to Allah by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2016.06.09 Somalia Halgan 43 0 Dozens of AU peacekeepers are massacred during an al-Shabaab suicide assault.
2016.06.09 Syria Meydan 5 50 At least five are killed when al-Nusra deliberately shells a civilian area.
2016.06.09 Iraq Wilayat Salahuddin 1 0 A man is beheaded for sorcery by the caliphate.
2016.06.08 Iraq Hanbas 3 3 An ISIS bomb blast lays out three Shiites.
2016.06.08 Pakistan Lahore 1 0 A 17-year-old girl is burnt alive by her conservative mother for eloping without permission.
2016.06.08 Israel Tel Aviv 4 13 Muslims disguised as Orthodox Jews fire into a food and retail market, killing four patrons as they praise Allah.
2016.06.08 Libya Abu Grein 25 32 Over two dozen defenders are killed during an ISIS assault on a small town.
2016.06.08 Libya Buairat el-Hassun 7 18 An ISIS car bomb claims seven lives.
2016.06.07 Iraq Haditha 2 0 Two female factory workers are disassembled by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2016.06.07 Afghanistan Sokhti 11 12 Eleven local security personnel are killed during a Taliban attack.
2016.06.07 Afghanistan Ghazni 12 50 The Taliban stop vehicles along a highway and massacre a dozen occupants.
2016.06.07 Iraq Khazar 5 0 Five displaced persons are further removed by ISIS bombers.
2016.06.07 Bangladesh Jhenaidah 1 0 A 69-year-old Hindu priest is hacked to death by Islamic radicals.
2016.06.07 Iraq Karbala 7 20 A Sunni suicide bomber produces seven dead Shiites at a commercial area.
2016.06.06 Jordan Amman 5 0 At least five employees are killed in their office by Islamic militants.
2016.06.06 Iraq Baghdad 2 11 Jihadis bomb a local market, killing two patrons.
2016.06.06 Iraq Mosul 65 0 Sixty-five civilians, including university students, are rounded up and executed by caliphate staff.
2016.06.06 Afghanistan Sari Pul 7 0 A child is among seven gunned down by Taliban fundamentalists.
2016.06.06 Yemen Khormaksar 1 0 A civilian is killed when Muslim extremists fire on an airport.
2016.06.06 Iraq Fallujah 4 0 Four civilians are tortured to death by a Shiite militia.
2016.06.06 Yemen Taiz 8 13 Shiite shells kill eight family members, including three children.
2016.06.06 Nigera Adamawa 4 0 Four farmers are murdered by Boko Haram.
2016.06.06 Egypt Sadwet 1 0 A young policeman is shot to death in the name of Allah.
2016.06.06 Thailand Narathiwat 3 2 Two villagers are shot point blank by Muslim terrorists.
2016.06.06 Iraq Mosul 11 0 Eleven people are executed in front of their families for trying to flee the caliphate.
2016.06.06 Cameroon Darak 10 0 Ten fishermen are cut down by Boko Haram.
2016.06.05 Afghanistan Kabul 1 0 An NPR journalist and his translator are picked off by Taliban snipers.
2016.06.05 Kazakhstan Aktobe 6 3 Islamic radicals murder six people in two separate attacks.
2016.06.05 Afghanistan Kabul 3 3 Fundamentalists set off a bomb outside a house that leaves three dead.
2016.06.05 Iraq Abu Ghraib 3 7 A Jihadi bomb blast ends the lives of three people at a market.
2016.06.05 Pakistan Sachal Goth 3 0 Two Hindus are among three slain at a liquor shop by members of a banned terror group.
2016.06.05 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 A female journalist is assassinated by al-Shabaab outside a college campus.
2016.06.05 Pakistan Attock 1 0 A 65-year-old Ahmadi religious minority is gunned down.
2016.06.05 Afghanistan Puli Alim 7 23 Islamic hardliners with suicide vests storm a courthouse and murder seven workers.
2016.06.05 Iraq al-Mahouz 3 0 Three civilians are beheded by the Islamic State.
2016.06.05 Bangladesh Chittagong 1 0 A woman is murdered in her home by religious radicals.
2016.06.05 Syria Aleppo 2 27 Two people are killed when Islamists target a church with rockets.
2016.06.05 Bangladesh Natore 1 0 A Christian man is hacked to death at his shop by Islamists.
2016.06.04 Iraq Fallujah 34 15 Thirty-four Iraqis are killed by two Islamic State suicide bombers.
2016.06.04 Iraq Tarmiyah 8 15 A Shahid suicide bomber eliminates eight people waiting at a checkpoint.
2016.06.04 Iraq Baghdad 7 25 Terrorists kill seven Iraqis in two separate attacks on a restaurant and market.
2016.06.04 Iraq Fallujah 400 0 A mass grave is discovered containing at least four hundred victims of ISIS executions.
2016.06.04 India Anantnag 2 0 Two cops are gunned down by Muslim terrorists.
2016.06.04 Syria Aleppo 7 33 Seven civilians are killed when Sunni terrorists fire rockets into their section of a city.
2016.06.04 Syria Hamadaniyey 5 47 A well-placed Sunni shell takes out five residents in their own neighborhood.
2016.06.03 Iraq Mosul 19 0 Nineteen Yazidi girls are put in cages and burned alive for refusing sex with caliphate members.
2016.06.03 Nigeria Waga 2 3 Boko Haram kill two villagers and abduct three women.
2016.06.03 Dagestan Ashaga-Stal 1 0 Islamists break into a policeman's home and murder him in front of his wife and children.
2016.06.03 India Bejbehara 3 5 Islamic terrorists ambush and kill three members of a local security convoy.
2016.06.03 Iraq Abu Dsher 3 7 Three Iraqis are reduced to pulp by Mujahid shrapnel.
2016.06.03 Iraq Fallujah 2 3 A suicide bomber targets a family fleeing the caliphate, killing two members.
2016.06.03 Yemen Taiz 17 30 Ten women and a girl are among seventeen shredded by Shiite shrapnel at a market.
2016.06.03 Niger Bosso 32 67 Thirty-two defenders are slain during a massive Boko Haram assault on a small town.
2016.06.03 Iraq Khalis 2 2 A probable premature detonation in a taxi cab leaves two dead.
2016.06.02 Syria Latakia 5 0 Five people are reported killed when a suicide bomber strikes a rival mosque.
2016.06.02 Nigeria Kano 1 0 Muslim youth behead a Christian woman for insulting Muhammad after an argument over religion.
2016.06.02 Afghanistan Kunduz 2 0 Two civilians, taken hostage after being pulled from a bus, are executed by the Taliban.
2016.06.02 Afghanistan Sheikh Ali 3 0 A woman is among three aid workers murdered by religious extremists.
2016.06.02 Pakistan Faqirabad 1 0 A retired man is shot to death by religious radicals.
2016.06.01 Iraq Nineveh 13 0 Thirteen people are executed for refusing to join the Islamic State.
2016.06.01 Libya Sirte 10 40 Ten Libyans are taken out by two ISIS suicide bombers.
2016.06.01 Iraq Mosul 6 0 Six men are executed by the caliphate for selling cigarettes.
2016.06.01 Sudan Singi 1 0 A Janjaweed-linked militia guns down a rival imam.
2016.06.01 Iraq Madain 2 9 Jihadis set off a bomb near a sports arena, taking out two bystanders.
2016.06.01 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 4 Two Iraqis are eliminated by Mujahid bombers.
2016.06.01 Iraq Tal Afar 3 0 Three young men are forced to their knees and then shot in the back of the head by the Islamic State.
2016.06.01 Afghanistan Ghazni 6 13 Fundamentalists storm a court building in a suicide attack that leaves five civilians and one police officer dead.
2016.06.01 Afghanistan Balkh 1 3 A local police chief is assassinated by Taliban bombers.
2016.06.01 Somalia Mogadishu 16 55 Islamists stage a suicide assault on a hotel, killing at least sixteen guests.
 
Part 2 (there is a 1000 character list per poast)

2016.06.01 Iraq Nineveh 13 0 Thirteen people are executed for refusing to join the Islamic State.
2016.06.01 Libya Sirte 10 40 Ten Libyans are taken out by two ISIS suicide bombers.
2016.06.01 Iraq Mosul 6 0 Six men are executed by the caliphate for selling cigarettes.
2016.06.01 Sudan Singi 1 0 A Janjaweed-linked militia guns down a rival imam.
2016.06.01 Iraq Madain 2 9 Jihadis set off a bomb near a sports arena, taking out two bystanders.
2016.06.01 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 4 Two Iraqis are eliminated by Mujahid bombers.
2016.06.01 Iraq Tal Afar 3 0 Three young men are forced to their knees and then shot in the back of the head by the Islamic State.
2016.06.01 Afghanistan Ghazni 6 13 Fundamentalists storm a court building in a suicide attack that leaves five civilians and one police officer dead.
2016.06.01 Afghanistan Balkh 1 3 A local police chief is assassinated by Taliban bombers.
2016.06.01 Somalia Mogadishu 16 55 Islamists stage a suicide assault on a hotel, killing at least sixteen guests.
2016.05.31 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Five Muslim 'separatists' ambush and kill two local security personnel.
2016.05.31 Egypt Qabr Omeir 6 6 Six young police recruits are murdered by an Islamic State linked group.
2016.05.31 Somalia Galgala Hills 2 0 Two Somalis lose their lives to an al-Shabaab bomb blast.
2016.05.31 Nigeria Ninte 3 0 Muslim terrorists burn churches and a pastors home, and hack three villagers to death as they slept.
2016.05.31 Iraq Suleiman Bek 4 13 A Holy warrior with a suicide vest obliterates four souls along a city street.
2016.05.31 Mali Gao 4 3 al-Qaeda members murder four UN mission staff.
2016.05.31 Afghanistan Kunduz 17 30 The Taliban stop four civilian buses and summarily execute seventeen passengers.
2016.05.30 Iraq Shaab 11 14 Eleven Iraqis are sent to Allah by a Fedayeen suicide car bomber.
2016.05.30 Iraq Tarmiya 10 24 A Shahid suicide bomber strikes a popular market, killing ten patrons.
2016.05.30 Iraq Sadr City 3 10 Sunnis take down three Shiites with a motorcycle bomb at a market.
2016.05.30 Pakistan Mardan 0 12 Children are among the casualties of a suicide bomber.
2016.05.30 Tunisia Samama Mountain 2 0 Two women collecting herbs are vaporized by an Islamist landmine.
2016.05.30 Afghanistan Helmand 47 40 A massive two-day assault by the Taliban leaves nearly fifty police and citizens dead.
2016.05.30 Kenya Bongwe 3 0 Three village elders are shot to death in their homes by al-Shabaab.
2016.05.30 Syria Palmyra 150 0 A mass grave is discovered containing the remains of one-hundred and fifty victims of ISIS torture and execution.
2016.05.30 Tanzania Tanga 8 0 Eight people are hacked to death in their beds by suspected Islamists.
2016.05.30 Syria Aleppo 5 21 Five civilians are pulled into pieces by Sunni rockets.
2016.05.29 Afghanistan Nadi Ali 4 10 Four local security personnel lose their lives to a Taliban assault.
2016.05.29 Niger Pandogari 4 0 A Muslim mob burns churches and kill four people based on a 'blasphemous' post on Facebook.
2016.05.29 Iraq Wilayat al-Jazihra 3 0 The caliphate imposes the 'rule of Allah' on three captives by executing them.
2016.05.29 Nigeria Biu 5 0 A woman and her baby are among five people slain by Boko Haram bombers.
2016.05.29 Egypt Sinai 2 3 Fundamentalists kill two local cops with a roadside bomb.
2016.05.29 Iraq Mualimeen 7 35 Seven people are slaughtered at a casino by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2016.05.29 Iraq Karmardi 11 0 A Shahid with a suicide belt sends eleven souls to Allah.
2016.05.29 Iraq Kahriz 2 21 A chlorine gas attack by ISIS on a small village produces two dead children.
2016.05.29 Mali Savare 5 1 Jihadis ambush and murder five UN peacekeepers.
2016.05.28 Philippines Sulu 2 3 Abu Sayyaf gunmen kill two people during an attempt to kidnap a female physician.
2016.05.28 Syria Shaddadi 4 18 Three Shahid suicide bombers take out four Kurds.
2016.05.28 Syria Ain al-Dananeer 1 3 A woman is obliterated by an al-Nusra rocket.
2016.05.28 Iraq Baghdad 12 8 Islamists machine-gun a dozen fan watching soccer on television.
2016.05.28 Iraq Fallujah 2 20 ISIS shrapnel dismantles two women.
2016.05.28 Syria Raqqa 4 0 Four young men are beheaded by the Islamic State.
2016.05.27 Mali Bamako 5 4 Five UN peacekeepers are killed from a Jihadi landmine and small arms attack.
2016.05.27 Syria Aleppo 1 9 Holy Warriors fire ten rockets into a neighborhood, managing to take down an elderly woman.
2016.05.27 France Saint Julien du Puy 0 1 An off-duty soldier is stabbed by ISIS supporters while jogging.
2016.05.26 Syria Aleppo 1 0 Sunni snipers pick off a civilian in a Shiite area.
2016.05.26 Iraq Tarmiya 5 3 Five people are killed when ISIS booby-traps a house.
2016.05.26 Iraq Baghdad 3 10 Three shoppers in a retail district are sent to Allah by Mujahid bombers.
2016.05.26 Iraq Mishada 4 16 Jihadis strike a commercial area with two bomb blasts, laying out four bystanders.
2016.05.26 Pakistan Karachi 2 0 Two Shiites are gunned down by sectarian Jihadis.
2016.05.25 Iraq Suleiman Bag 2 6 At least two others are killed by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2016.05.25 India Kupwara 1 0 A porter is shot to death by Islamic terrorists.
2016.05.25 Bangladesh Gobindaganj 1 0 A physically disabled Hindu trader's throat is cut by radicalized Muslims.
2016.05.25 Syria Aleppo 7 5 Three women and two children are among seven innocents torn to shreds by Sunni rockets.
2016.05.25 Pakistan Peshawar 1 0 A transgender is shot by 'conservative elements.'
2016.05.25 Turkey Hah, Tur Abdin 5 0 At least five people are killed when a suicide bomber targets a checkpoint outside two historic churches.
2016.05.25 Afghanistan Kabul 11 10 Eleven lives are snuffed out by a suicide bomber on foot targeting a bus carrying court employees.
2016.05.25 Pakistan Karachi 1 1 Religious extremists gun down an Ahmadi religious minority and injure his friend.
2016.05.25 India Pulwama 1 1 Muslim terrorists shoot a cop to death and injure a woman.
2016.05.25 Pakistan Patang Chowk 2 1 Islamists fire on a police vehicle, killing two occupants.
2016.05.24 Yemen Sanaa 2 2 Sunni extremists are suspected of a university bombing that leaves two dead.
2016.05.24 Iraq Zafaraniya 2 6 Jihadis bomb a popular restaurant, killing two people.
2016.05.24 Iraq Mosul 12 0 Twelve civilians are hauled from their homes and executed by the Islamic State.
2016.05.23 Afghanistan Shah Wali Kot 5 4 Five civilians are killed and four others badly wounded by a Taliban bomb blast.
2016.05.23 India Tengpora 1 0 A police officer is shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
2016.05.23 Pakistan Bara Bandai 2 0 A peace committee member and his guard are assassinated by Islamist gunmen.
2016.05.23 Syria Jableh 161 300 Children are among one-hundred and sixty innocents incinerated or blown apart by ISIS suicide blasts.
2016.05.23 Syria Mayadin 1 0 A teenager is publicly stoned to death on charges of being gay.
2016.05.23 Yemen Jazan 1 3 A Shiite landmine kills a Saudi border guard.
2016.05.23 India Zadibal 2 2 Islamic militants gun down two cops at close range.
2016.05.23 Yemen Aden 45 60 At least forty young people lining up for work are blown to bits by two Fedayeen suicide bombers.
2016.05.22 Sudan Arzini 8 5 Children are among the victims when Arabs fire into a group of Africans at a mosque.
2016.05.22 Syria Tal Tamr 5 0 Two suicide bombers take out five Kurds.
2016.05.22 Syria Qamishli 6 15 Six Assyrians are laid out by Allah-praising suicide bombers targeting a Christian restaurant.
2016.05.22 Afghanistan Herat 1 7 A Taliban rocket claims the life of a civilian.
2016.05.22 Iraq Mosul 19 0 Nineteen young women and men are executed by the Islamic State on charges of apostasy.
2016.05.22 Iraq Rataba 8 0 Eight people are burned alive in ovens by the caliphate.
2016.05.22 Iraq Suleiman Beg 2 11 Two Shiites are taken out by an ISIS suicide bomber.
2016.05.21 Iraq Tarmiya 2 7 Two people are blown to bits by a Mujahideen bomb blast at a market.
2016.05.21 Iraq Dujail 7 28 A Shahid suicide bomber massacres seven patrons at a popular market.
2016.05.21 Afghanistan Charchino 6 0 A Taliban insider shoots six local cops in the back.
2016.05.21 Egypt Sheikh Zuweid 3 0 Three local cops are laid out by a fundamentalist bomb blast.
2016.05.20 Afghanistan Kabul 1 1 A UN security guard is gunned down by suspected Taliban.
2016.05.20 Niger Yebi 8 7 Boko Haram set a village on fire and shoot into it, killing at least eight.
2016.05.20 Yemen Wilayet 3 0 Fundamentalists gruesomely execute three men - one by crushing his head with a rock.
2016.05.20 Iraq Husseiniya 2 6 A Jihadi bomb blast near a row of shops leaves two dead.
2016.05.20 Syria Sheikh Maqsoud 1 5 A young girl is killed when terrorists bomb her neighborhood.
2016.05.20 Syria Idlib 1 0 A woman is vaporized by an ISIS tank shell.
2016.05.20 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three civilians are captured and beheaded by the Islamic State.
2016.05.20 Iran Urmia 5 0 Five Kurdish rights activists are publicly hanged for 'conspiring against Islam'.
2016.05.20 Tanzania Mwanza 3 1 Islamic extremists hack three people at a rival mosque to death with machetes.
2016.05.20 Bangladesh Kushtia 1 1 A 55-year-old homoeopathic doctor is hacked to death by Religion of Peace activists.
2016.05.20 England London 0 4 A Turkish man yelling about Lee Rigby stabs four women in a parking lot on the third anniversary.
 
Part 3

2016.05.19 Iraq Taji 3 10 Mujahideen bomb an industrial district, killing three passersby.
2016.05.19 Syria Tabqa 3 0 Three citizens of the Islamic State are executed for apostasy.
2016.05.19 Afghanistan Qalat 8 0 A Taliban in uniform shoots eight unarmed soldiers.
2016.05.19 Afghanistan Baghlan Jadid 11 0 Five children and two women are among a family of eleven exterminated by Taliban bombers.
2016.05.19 Germany Baden-Württemberg 1 0 A 70-year-old woman is murdered in her home by a young Muslim who leaves a 'religious' note at the scene.
2016.05.18 Iraq Latifiya 9 9 The Islamic State kills nine with a booby-trapped home.
2016.05.18 Mali Kidal 5 3 Five UN peacekeepers are murdered by religious extremists.
2016.05.18 Iraq Mosul 25 0 The caliphate tortures and executes twenty-five people with nitric acid.
2016.05.18 Libya Sirte 24 0 A rights group reports that two dozen people are pulled from their homes by ISIS and 'unlawfully' executed.
2016.05.18 Pakistan Peshawar 1 15 Islamic militants kill a local cop with a bomb.
2016.05.18 Syria Genderes 1 1 A civilian is killed when ISIS members send rockets into a neighborhood.
2016.05.17 Syria Aleppo 1 6 A woman bleeds to death following a Sunni rocket blast.
2016.05.17 Iraq Daquq 1 0 An ISIS bomb takes out an Australian charity worker trying to protect children.
2016.05.17 Syria Ghouta 4 12 Four civilian bystanders are killed during a clash between rival Islamist groups.
2016.05.17 Libya Abugrein 4 5 ISIS shrapnel claims four lives.
2016.05.17 Iraq Sadr City 30 57 Thirty people at a market are exterminated by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2016.05.17 Iraq Rashid 8 22 Eight Iraqis are reduced to pulp by an ISIS car bombing.
2016.05.17 Iraq al-Shaab 41 75 A female suicide bomber murders over forty people who gathered to help victims of an earlier blast.
2016.05.17 Iraq Habibia 9 0 At least nine patrons are killed when a suicide bomber wades into a packed restaurant and detonates.
2016.05.16 Iraq Khalidiya 5 15 The Islamic State sends a rocket into a small town, taking out five residents.
2016.05.16 Iraq Baghdad 4 17 Two Mujahideen bomb blasts leave four dead.
2016.05.16 India Batapora 1 0 Religious radicals kidnap and execute a carpenter.
2016.05.16 Afghanistan Khoshamand 7 4 Seven local cops are machine-gunned in their cars by the Taliban.
2016.05.16 Afghanistan Abkhor 4 0 Four guards at a road construction site are blown to bits by Taliban fundamentalists.
2016.05.16 Afghanistan Helmand 3 0 Three less radical Muslims are shot in the head by ISIS.
2016.05.16 Syria Manbij 1 0 A young man is crucified by the Islamic State.
2016.05.16 Libya Buairat el-Hassun 32 50 Thirty-two locals are taken down by ISIS suicide bombers.
2016.05.16 Dagestan Suleiman-Stal 1 0 An accountant is gunned down by suspected Islamists.
2016.05.16 Iraq Tahrir 21 0 A 'moral accountability' squad stones a woman and twenty 'youth' over illicit relations.
2016.05.16 Somalia Mogadishu 2 3 Two others are blown to bits by a suicide car bomber.
2016.05.16 Chechnya Grozny 0 6 An ISIS suicide bomber detonates after disguising himself as a goat herder.
2016.05.16 Iraq Bezaas Kanaan 1 0 A farmer is shot to death at his orchard by Sunni extremists.
2016.05.15 Iraq Latifiya 7 18 ISIS bombers target a shopping area, killing seven bystanders.
2016.05.15 Syria Deir Ezzor 10 0 At least ten others are killed when ISIS militants attack and desecrate a non-Muslim cemetery.
2016.05.15 Syria Aleppo 2 0 Two locals are brutally murdered by teenage French ISIS.
2016.05.15 Iraq Taji 14 21 A suicide bomb attack on a cooking gas factory leaves fourteen others dead.
2016.05.15 Iraq Baghdad 8 28 Suicide bombers murder eight Iraqis.
2016.05.15 Yemen Mukalla 41 60 Forty-one police recruits are obliterated by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2016.05.15 Yemen Hadramawt 6 1 Six police officers are disassembled by an ISIS bomber.
2016.05.15 Egypt al-Arish 1 1 Fundamentalists assassinate a young police recruit.
 
Read the descriptions and think about these women, children and innocents as you compare Radical Islam to any other entity.

I don't care what happened in the Crusades or Inquisition. I care about now and this list is from the past 30 days.
 
Uhhhhhh are y'all serious? Or are you just willfully being ignorant for the sake of defending your argument (whatever it is?)
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It's neither. They don't even believe what they're writing. This is their shtick. They like being argumentative and acting like their point of view is intellectually superior.
 
Lol. Uhh.....no. If you're genuinely interested do some research. The historical record is quite different than the christian spin. This link is just a taste.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland_massacres
Eh, you're comparing something that happened nearly a THOUSAND years ago in the very infancy of middle ages Europe and directed by the most corrupt organization of all time (the Catholic Church) with modern day mass killings. It's apples and oranges.
 
Muslim Extremists must laugh themselves to sleep every night. Joking around with each other "Can you believe we're toying with the most powerful country on Earth!? We kill their innocents for fun, and they could easily ban us, profile us, or completely decimate our entire home countries if they wanted to - but they're too busy worrying about our feelings!!! Let's go shoot up another place tomorrow and watch them make excuses for us - and convince themselves we'll eventually stop if they're nice to us!"
 
That bunch is a despicable group. They are about as far as you can get from being "Christian" or "Baptist" for that matter. To judge all Christians by them is very narrow minded.
Exactly! I agree. But, to THEM, they are the ideal Christian. I'm NOT "judging all Christians by them" at all. I know full well that MOST of them are nothing like that group.

Now...

Do you think the guy that shot-up the club in Orlando is a good example of a Muslim? DO you think these extremists that blow people up are the typical Muslim? Should we judge all Muslims by the horrible actions of these few?
 
Muslim Extremists must laugh themselves to sleep every night. Joking around with each other "Can you believe we're toying with the most powerful country on Earth!? We kill their innocents for fun, and they could easily ban us, profile us, or completely decimate our entire home countries if they wanted to - but they're too busy worrying about our feelings!!! Let's go shoot up another place tomorrow and watch them make excuses for us - and convince themselves we'll eventually stop if they're nice to us!"

Not only that, but they're so sinister and so well planned that they know the infighting this causes and they know this infighting weakens us...so they're able to carry out more attacks. But we capitalistic, Christians are really the bad guy. Don't you forget it.
 
I love the way you conveniently ignore the Muslim prohibition of homosexuality, as if he just randomly hate gays, but NOT because he's a Muslim, and Muslims hate gays.
Willful ignorance.
I didn't "ignore" it at all. I even put his religion in the same post. I just emphasized that he was a hater of homosexuals FIRST, and Muslim second. Not all Muslims hate homosexuals, just like not all Christians do.
 
Eh, you're comparing something that happened nearly a THOUSAND years ago in the very infancy of middle ages Europe and directed by the most corrupt organization of all time (the Catholic Church) with modern day mass killings. It's apples and oranges.

Yes and i capitulated to the fact that its long ago. But the christians of those times were just as adamant that they were doing the "will of god" as christians are today. The fact that christians still positively spin the crusades this very day (see deans post) as some sort of necessary holy endeavor blessed by God makes it relevant to the discussion imo.
 
Not only that, but they're so sinister and so well planned that they know the infighting this causes and they know this infighting weakens us...so they're able to carry out more attacks. But we capitalistic, Christians are really the bad guy. Don't you forget it.
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Exactly! I agree. But, to THEM, they are the ideal Christian. I'm NOT "judging all Christians by them" at all. I know full well that MOST of them are nothing like that group.

Now...

Do you think the guy that shot-up the club in Orlando is a good example of a Muslim? DO you think these extremists that blow people up are the typical Muslim? Should we judge all Muslims by the horrible actions of these few?
Yes, he is a good example of a Muslim. See @UNC71-00 's list. At some point, even the most bleeding heart liberal will have to admit to themselves that Muslims, by and large, want to kill non-Muslims everywhere.

The crazy WBC folks do not commit mass atrocities or even any atrocities. They're just loony bins who do dumb demonstrations. So what? Muslim extremists are KILLING people all over the world, every day. Someone will die today or tomorrow from a Muslim attack.
 
I just emphasized that he was a hater of homosexuals FIRST, and Muslim second.

How the hell do you know which was the primary driver, and which was the secondary driver?

And even if you're right - him being a hater of homosexuals would entice him to maybe commit a hate crime against them (which could be anything from maybe writing anti-gay messages somewhere, to maybe beating one up, etc.). Him being a Muslim Extremist is what turned what could have been a relatively mundane hate crime into a huge massacre.
 
There is no crime in hating someone and wishing them dead.
Is it "against the law" to think that? No, it's not.

Is it a "crime" to think that? Is it a crime to wish someone would die? If it were me, and I were thinking that, I would feel like a criminal... yes.
 
How the hell do you know which was the primary driver, and which was the secondary driver?

And even if you're right - him being a hater of homosexuals would entice him to maybe commit a hate crime against them (which could be anything from maybe writing anti-gay messages somewhere, to maybe beating one up, etc.). Him being a Muslim Extremist is what turned what could have been a relatively mundane hate crime into a huge massacre.
So, you accuse me of speculation. Then, you try to out-speculate me even more... Bravo! Hold the mirror a little higher.
 
Is it "against the law" to think that? No, it's not.

Is it a "crime" to think that? Is it a crime to wish someone would die? If it were me, and I were thinking that, I would feel like a criminal... yes.

That's why we have laws in this country. To make it black and white what is a crime and what isn't. Essentially to prevent people with moronic opinions like yours from determining what is criminal and what isnt.
 
Yes and i capitulated to the fact that its long ago. But the christians of those times were just as adamant that they were doing the "will of god" as christians are today. The fact that christians still positively spin the crusades this very day (see deans post) as some sort of necessary holy endeavor blessed by God makes it relevant to the discussion imo.
Well, I certainly don't spin the crusades as a noble thing and I'm a Christian. It was for greed. It didn't stop the Muslim push West. Charlemagne did that at the Battle of Tours in 732 (how do you like that historical recall? Lol).

What makes it apples and oranges is the following:
- it was 1000 years ago, i.e. way, way before modern nation states, modern morality, modern decency, and all that.
- it was spurred by the Catholic Church, the most corrupt, abusive, power-lusting organization that's ever existed, save maybe the Roman Empire. Since then, the Catholic Church has been forcibly reformed (the Martin Luther schism) and would never do something like sponsor the crusades in modern times.
- Muslims ARE committing acts on a close scale to the crusade massacres (if you tally up the body counts from multiple Muslim attacks) in 2016, the modern information age. Muslims cannot hide behind the "well our culture is more primitive" thing. This is 2016. These suicide bombers have Twitter accounts and cell phones. They watch English soccer on TV. They do not live in secluded bubbles. They know the magnitude of what they're doing and that it's an atrocity in 2016.
 
How about "lone wolf" christian inspired murderers? Timothy mcveigh? Eric rudolph?

Nothing about Timothy McVeigh's act was Christian related. His motivation was based on the way the govt handled the Waco standoff. He characterized the govt as "fascist tyrants" and he characterized himself as a "constitutional defender".

Eric Rudolph is a bit closer but still, he never proclaimed his act to be based on his Christian faith. The FBI attempted to characterize it as such by saying he had an association with "Christian Identity" (a white nationalists group that believed they were the chosen people of God) but that was unproven and he never proclaimed such.

That is a drastic difference from muslims that commit terrorist acts and then proudly proclaim it is what Allah believed.
 
Yes, he is a good example of a Muslim. See @UNC71-00 's list. At some point, even the most bleeding heart liberal will have to admit to themselves that Muslims, by and large, want to kill non-Muslims everywhere.

The crazy WBC folks do not commit mass atrocities or even any atrocities. They're just loony bins who do dumb demonstrations. So what? Muslim extremists are KILLING people all over the world, every day. Someone will die today or tomorrow from a Muslim attack.
Thank you!

You just exposed why this will only get worse and these attacks will continue.

YOU have no culpability. It's all someone else's fault. Your country, your religion, your way of thinking is always right, and theirs is always wrong. Great. So, when their refusal to bend shows up again, somewhere, we'll get more violence and revenge. Yay!
 
Do you think the guy that shot-up the club in Orlando is a good example of a Muslim? DO you think these extremists that blow people up are the typical Muslim? Should we judge all Muslims by the horrible actions of these few?

This all comes down to trade-offs. What ratio of people inconvenienced to lives lost is a fair one for you?

Does making 1000 Muslim immigrants go through an extra strenuous background check to save 5 lives make sense to you - or is that too unfair? What if it was inconveniencing 500 Muslims to save 10 lives? Inconveniencing 100 to save 100? Just wondering on where you put the value on a human life as compared to the inconvenience of being lumped into a generalized judgement.
 
Yes, he is a good example of a Muslim. See @UNC71-00 's list. At some point, even the most bleeding heart liberal will have to admit to themselves that Muslims, by and large, want to kill non-Muslims everywhere.

The crazy WBC folks do not commit mass atrocities or even any atrocities. They're just loony bins who do dumb demonstrations. So what? Muslim extremists are KILLING people all over the world, every day. Someone will die today or tomorrow from a Muslim attack.
Thank you!

You just exposed why this will only get worse and these attacks will continue.

YOU have no culpability. It's all someone else's fault. Your country, your religion, your way of thinking is always right, and theirs is always wrong. Great. So, when their refusal to bend shows up again, somewhere, we'll get more violence and revenge. Yay!
I re-quoted my post that you're quoting as context for everyone else. How on God's green earth did you get your response from reading my post? You're just saying the same thing over and over, regardless of what people respond to you.

Your plan of being a head-in-the-sand ostrich will. not. work.
 
This all comes down to trade-offs. What ratio of people inconvenienced to lives lost is a fair one for you?

Does making 1000 Muslim immigrants go through an extra strenuous background check to save 5 lives make sense to you - or is that too unfair? What if it was inconveniencing 500 Muslims to save 10 lives? Inconveniencing 100 to save 100? Just wondering on where you put the value on a human life as compared to the inconvenience of being lumped into a generalized judgement.
It all comes down to trade-offs? Who said so? You?

I'm glad you need an outlet for your statistics and logic. Start doing those sums and solve the problem mathematically. That won't have any repercussions, I'm sure.
 
Okay, so let's say we BAN ALL THE MUSLIMS (the good and the bad, every single one of them), we round them up and we get the OUT of the U.S., there are NO MORE MUSLIMS HERE... not one! Problem solved????

NOW, what do we do about the rest of the nuts that commit these mass shootings (the Dylann Roof's, the Jeffrey Weise's, the Doug Williams, the Michael McDermott's, the Larry Ashebrook's, the Mark Barton's, the Eric Harris and Dylan Kleibold's, the Robert Hawkins, the Jared Loughner's, the James Holmes, etc.... too many to list actually) Now the Muslims are gone, now what?
 
I re-quoted my post that you're quoting as context for everyone else. How on God's green earth did you get your response from reading my post? You're just saying the same thing over and over, regardless of what people respond to you.

Your plan of being a head-in-the-sand ostrich will. not. work.
And, you plan of lumping them all together is going to bring us exatly what we have now, only more of it. And, it will decay our own civil liberties in the process.
 
Just ftr, i think the biggest threat to our nations security is radical islamic terrorist attacks. I just have a prob with christians pointing the finger as if we have no guilt or role in the dumpster fire thats the middle east.

Christians don't have much fault with what is going on in the Middle East, but Americans (and Western Europeans) certainly have some.
 
Okay, so let's say we BAN ALL THE MUSLIMS (the good and the bad, every single one of them), we round them up and we get the OUT of the U.S., there are NO MORE MUSLIMS HERE... not one! Problem solved????

NOW, what do we do about the rest of the nuts that commit these mass shootings (the Dylann Roof's, the Jeffrey Weise's, the Doug Williams, the Michael McDermott's, the Larry Ashebrook's, the Mark Barton's, the Eric Harris and Dylan Kleibold's, the Robert Hawkins, the Jared Loughner's, the James Holmes, etc.... too many to list actually) Now the Muslims are gone, now what?

Why do you want to ban all the Muslims? That's silly.

How about this- we stop all immigration from anywhere until we determine a way to properly vet them?

Here's another- put a rifle in the hand of any immigrant male who is not disabled and tell him to go back and fight for his homeland. Give him all the bullets and grenades he needs too. We can even train them if they want to be trained.
 
It all comes down to trade-offs? Who said so? You?

I think it's fairly obvious. You said we shouldn't lump all Muslims into one description, even though the group as a whole have proven to be more likely to commit these acts. And you're right to an extent. However, if we kicked all Muslims out of the country, and didn't let any in - we would have no Muslim terrorist acts by domestic Muslims. Is either end of the spectrum perfect? No - thus the need for trade-offs. Take some of each end of the spectrum - as you say, its all relative.

I'm glad you need an outlet for your statistics and logic. Start doing those sums and solve the problem mathematically. That won't have any repercussions, I'm sure.

If you want to deny the statistics - do so at your own peril. It's tough for me to see glaring proof that things like this are likely to happen by these people - and have nothing done about it.
 
Christians don't have much fault with what is going on in the Middle East, but Americans (and Western Europeans) certainly have some.
Don't forget Palestine turned down the initial deal from the Brits that would've granted them much more land, and now they whine about not having more land. No one ever brings that up.
 
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No... no, it is absolutely relevant. What I do to others, I do to myself. How I feel toward others, is reflective of how I feel toward myself.

Uhh huh...uhh huh...well nonetheless, it's completely irrelevant to the laws we have in place. I couldn't give two shits about your hating me, muslims, Christians or anyone else. No one cares who and how you hate. But we'd all care if you started killing people that you hate.

By chance, do you hate yourself?
 
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No... no, it is absolutely relevant. What I do to others, I do to myself. How I feel toward others, is reflective of how I feel toward myself.

And how you (or I) feel about yourself (or myself) is irrelevant to anyone else.
 
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It all comes down to trade-offs? Who said so? You?

I'm glad you need an outlet for your statistics and logic. Start doing those sums and solve the problem mathematically. That won't have any repercussions, I'm sure.

Which problem are you trying to solve?
 
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