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PRESIDENT TRUMP

It really sounds, to me, like some folks around here (and in this country) are scared to death that they might actually (gasp!) have to work for something!

(what a concept)
Dude... this has not one damned thing to do with not wanting to work.

Is that what they teach you in church? Make sure you're not having to carry someone else's load?
 
It's definitely a process. And, I can totally understand why they recoil at a man like Donald Trump as their president.

I tell ya... I have a few close friends (chick knows them, too) who are VERY hardcore feminists... big time. A mother and a daughter, specifically. I love them both. They know it. Now, I try, on occasion, to offer some things for them to consider when they include me in a venting/rant session. I don't embody the "chauvinist pig" male to them, so that's good. I like that, actually. I'm not pretending either... just being me. But, I do try to balance the scales a little, just so I'm sure that they know (or are at least considering) that having a penis doesn't equal wants-to-oppress-those-that-don't. I think, deep-down, they know that. But, on the surface, especially in the wake of this election, it's still a fresh wound. Trump is an amalgam of every shitty ex-husband they ever had, or knew about.

If you can pull yourself away from how you're personally invested in the present-day situation, and look at the evolution of women's rights and women's acceptance into a male-dominated society (which there's no denying that), in this country, then I gotta believe you can see how there was a time, not so long ago, when these people couldn't even vote. They feel very offended by the words and actions of a guy like Trump. And, the country's acceptance of someone who has shown such disrespect (in their eyes) for the female of the species.

I've been cheated on many times. I have been in a situation where my (former) fiance was staying at home while I worked two full-time jobs to make ends meet and she was off chatting it up with some guy in Ohio and just bounced one day while I was at work...I came home to the place nearly gutted. I've had another lady get close to me in an attempt to extort money from my parents (who were pretty well off at the time). I could go on and f*cking on. And I still got married and have been for 7 years and have two awesome kids to show. If anything, those situations taught me the red flags to look for and also what I could do better myself.

Just b/c you've been wronged before doesn't mean everyone is the damn devil.
 
Dude... this has not one damned thing to do with not wanting to work.

Is that what they teach you in church? Make sure you're not having to carry someone else's load?

Maybe not in your specific case, but the Dem party is very largely a "Gimme, Gimme, Gimme" base of people. It's undeniable.
 
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I'm talking yesterday not the day before.
Oh, you mean the rally that was organized by someone who's family is linked to terrorists and who personally met with a Hamas-operative? The rally in which Ashly Judd said that Trump has we t dreams about his own daughter? The rally in which Madonna said she often thought of blowing up the White House? The rally in which another speaker proclaimed that Trump is not the POTUS? That "peaceful" rally?
 
I've been cheated on many times. I have been in a situation where my (former) fiance was staying at home while I worked two full-time jobs to make ends meet and she was off chatting it up with some guy in Ohio and just bounced one day while I was at work...I came home to the place nearly gutted. I've had another lady get close to me in an attempt to extort money from my parents (who were pretty well off at the time). I could go on and f*cking on. And I still got married and have been for 7 years and have two awesome kids to show. If anything, those situations taught me the red flags to look for and also what I could do better myself.

Just b/c you've been wronged before doesn't mean everyone is the damn devil.
And, that's YOU! That's awesome.

It really amazes me how people seem to totally lack the capacity for empathy. If other people don't think, react, respond and behave-in-general, like you do, then they are basically worthy of your scorn and contempt. Do it the way you did it, or to hell with them.
 
Oh, you mean the rally that was organized by someone who's family is linked to terrorists and who personally met with a Hamas-operative? The rally in which Ashly Judd said that Trump has we t dreams about his own daughter? The rally in which Madonna said she often thought of blowing up the White House? The rally in which another speaker proclaimed that Trump is not the POTUS? That "peaceful" rally?
Would you rather repress their speaking about it and thus increase the chances of them actually DOING it?


Who has a family "linked to terrorism" that organized a protest?
 
And, that's YOU! That's awesome.

It really amazes me how people seem to totally lack the capacity for empathy. If other people don't think, react, respond and behave-in-general, like you do, then they are basically worthy of your scorn and contempt. Do it the way you did it, or to hell with them.

Bullshit.

Empathy means you understand where someone else is coming from. I have studied this concept for 15 years now since they hounded us to death with it at UNCW (Business Management major). There is a BIG difference between being empathetic and patronizing that empathy. Allowing someone to wallow in self pity...I'm sorry, that ain't me. More power to those of you who do fit that mold. Where I'm from..."Grow a pair." Sorry for not 'understanding' the oppressed.
 
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Best you can do? C'mon, man...be more empathetic. I was working 70+ hours per week...school was so hard.
I'm just pointing-out your lack of understanding it. I can empathize with that, too.

You think I'd waste my best on you?
 
I'm just pointing-out your lack of understanding it. I can empathize with that, too.

You think I'd waste my best on you?

I have had to have this conversation once or twice away from these boards -- being a Last Word Lucy doesn't mean your point is noted. I've a very clear understanding of the word "empathy" and actually believe it to be one of the most powerful in the English language. I believe that having empathy empowers you in most situations you'll face...being able to understand where everyone else in the room is coming from...and then being adaptable enough to adjust your response to them...is a clear advantage in your favor.

Truth be told, this board is entertaining to me. I firmly understand that there is nothing any of us can write that will change anyone else's mind on any subject. It is funny, to me, how easy it is to get under the skin of people on here...and just because your command of the English language and your ability exists to be very articulate...doesn't mean that there's much substance.

Although, I am sure "your best," towards anyone here of your choosing, would be well-written and concise...I think you're still setting the bar fairly low for yourself.

By the way. Thread = Hijacked.
 
I have had to have this conversation once or twice away from these boards -- being a Last Word Lucy doesn't mean your point is noted. I've a very clear understanding of the word "empathy" and actually believe it to be one of the most powerful in the English language. I believe that having empathy empowers you in most situations you'll face...being able to understand where everyone else in the room is coming from...and then being adaptable enough to adjust your response to them...is a clear advantage in your favor.

Truth be told, this board is entertaining to me. I firmly understand that there is nothing any of us can write that will change anyone else's mind on any subject. It is funny, to me, how easy it is to get under the skin of people on here...and just because your command of the English language and your ability exists to be very articulate...doesn't mean that there's much substance.

Although, I am sure "your best," towards anyone here of your choosing, would be well-written and concise...I think you're still setting the bar fairly low for yourself.

By the way. Thread = Hijacked.
Sooo, you decided to kinda toss-out the "Grow a Pair" philosophy? Because the summation in the first paragraph goes against that.

Threads are made to be hijacked! That's what I love about these threads. They go where they go.

Last word Larry, you mean.
 
Just so you know, I have ALWAYS worked my ass off and love doing so, yet I'm one of these snowflakes you're so fond of. Idiots!
I'm confused. Did you mean to quote me? I was asking him if he had any studies to back up his statement since I hadn't heard it before. It was a serious question. I'm not one of the people who used the term snowflake, so if you were joking you failed badly.
 
I thought it was pretty clear.

I'm just an inbred West Virginian hick with no edumacation that voted Trump cuz he'z funny n' stuff an' likes guns. You right, man...you right. I don' git it.

You have yerseff a good day, sir.

(full disclosure -- I'm just f*cking with you, strum...it's all good. I have to take my mind off Atlanta winning right now.)
 
Don't be afraid to name names, Blue. Which one(s) of us are you accusing of being a freeloader?

Hahahaha.

Perhaps I was being too cryptic. I never said anyone was freeloading...I merely said some folks are sounding that way.
 
@Blue2010 Nice picture bro....lol
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I think this thread is a classic example of the division we have in this country.
I believe the access to social media and the communication through the Internet, etc., has only exacerbated it. 50 years ago, you had Republicans and Democrats, and there were social, philosophical and even moral oppositions. But, you didn't swim around in it on an almost-hourly basis. Nowadays, the division and conflicts rage 24/7... endlessly, constantly. There's rarely any escape from it. So, whatever your beliefs and ideals happen to be, they get reinforced and what you feel opposed to gets even more extreme and dangerous. And, I'm thinking it makes the likelihood of compromise or mutual respect much less likely. And, you're almost certain to never grow or change your understanding. That's really unfortunate. I'd hate to find out that when I'm 60 or 70, that I have the exact same attitudes, perspectives and opinions I have now. That sounds so boring and wasteful. I mean, why not just die right now? You're never going to do anything any different.
 
Number of Obama Cabinet nominations confirmed by the time of his Inauguration in 2009? Seven, with five more confirmed within a week of his Inauguration.

Number of Trump Cabinet nominations confirmed by the time of his Inauguration this year? Two. Let's see how many more are confirmed by this coming Friday.

We are seeing obstructionism at it's worst from the Democrats.
 
I believe the access to social media and the communication through the Internet, etc., has only exacerbated it. 50 years ago, you had Republicans and Democrats, and there were social, philosophical and even moral oppositions. But, you didn't swim around in it on an almost-hourly basis. Nowadays, the division and conflicts rage 24/7... endlessly, constantly. There's rarely any escape from it. So, whatever your beliefs and ideals happen to be, they get reinforced and what you feel opposed to gets even more extreme and dangerous. And, I'm thinking it makes the likelihood of compromise or mutual respect much less likely. And, you're almost certain to never grow or change your understanding. That's really unfortunate. I'd hate to find out that when I'm 60 or 70, that I have the exact same attitudes, perspectives and opinions I have now. That sounds so boring and wasteful. I mean, why not just die right now? You're never going to do anything any different.

Holy Shit! I agree with this! WTH is going on here?????
 
I believe the access to social media and the communication through the Internet, etc., has only exacerbated it. 50 years ago, you had Republicans and Democrats, and there were social, philosophical and even moral oppositions. But, you didn't swim around in it on an almost-hourly basis. Nowadays, the division and conflicts rage 24/7... endlessly, constantly. There's rarely any escape from it. So, whatever your beliefs and ideals happen to be, they get reinforced and what you feel opposed to gets even more extreme and dangerous.
Agree. The last two days have produced a cringe-worthy number of tweets and poasts from people on both sides of the aisle.

And, you're almost certain to never grow or change your understanding. That's really unfortunate. I'd hate to find out that when I'm 60 or 70, that I have the exact same attitudes, perspectives and opinions I have now. That sounds so boring and wasteful. I mean, why not just die right now? You're never going to do anything any different.
Disagree. Change for the sake of change isn't necessarily commendable. Plenty of people have principled opinions that are immutable.
 
We are seeing obstructionism at it's worst from the Democrats.
Tell me more about the Supreme Court position that's been vacant for almost a year now. Don't worry, though. I'm sure the Democrats will continue their campaign by filibustering every piece of legislation Trump tries to introduce.

Hyper-partisanship is wrecking America.
 
Hyper-partisanship is wrecking America.
Now this is a fact. But the Dems are taking it to new levels.

How would the media have reacted if 68 Congressmen had boycotted Obama's Inauguration? They'd still be talking about it to this day. Again, 12 of Obama's Cabinet nominees were confirmed within a week of his Inauguration. Get back to me by the end of the day on 1/27/17 and we'll continue this discussion.
 
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Tell me more about the Supreme Court position that's been vacant for almost a year now. Don't worry, though. I'm sure the Democrats will continue their campaign by filibustering every piece of legislation Trump tries to introduce.

Hyper-partisanship is wrecking America.

Amen. I typically lean more conservative, but I was pissed when the GOP in the Senate wouldn't even vote on Obama's nomination. Deny his nomination if you must, although I thought it was a good pick, but at the very least do you're ****ing job.
 
Now this is a fact. But the Dems are taking it to new levels.

How would the media have reacted if 68 Congressmen had boycotted Obama's Inauguration? They'd still be talking about it to this day. Again, 12 of Obama's Cabinet nominees were confirmed within a week of his Inauguration. Get back to me by the end of the day on 1/27/17 and we'll continue this discussion.
Why didn't you address my point about the Supreme Court vacancy? No, you immediately deflected and started blaming Democrats again. You can't even be objective about it.

ETA: Just realized I never addressed your point about the Cabinet nominees. It's a good one. The Democrats need to do their jobs, too.
 
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Disagree. Change for the sake of change isn't necessarily commendable. Plenty of people have principled opinions that are immutable.
Change is the one thing, the ONLY thing, that never changes! So, I know that things are going to change. Am I going to be stubborn and resist? Or, will I be able to embrace the change?
 
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