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Trump & Hillary

What policies? Build a wall, Round up all muslims, Torture women and children, Send the Mexicans back, what policy do you not have a problem with? Make America Great, Make America Great, just what in the hell does that mean? Good night to all.....

lol. Torture women and children? Haha. Did CNN tell you that was going to happen?
 
I have a problem with some of those, that's why I don't plan on voting for him.

If Hillary becomes President, I'll come looking for you.

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From everything I've seen / read / heard on OBL, there were more than enough red flags. With the information we apparently had on him, he should have been dealt with before 9/11 ever materialized. I view Trump as the type to proactively follow through.
So despite the thousands of employees who work in the FBI, CIA, State Department, Department of Defense, etc. you're trying to pin responsibility for the entire event on one man who had been out of office for 8 months? That kind of partisan rhetoric is really disturbing. I have a hard time taking anything you say seriously if you actually believe that's a reasonable interpretation of 9/11.
 
Yep . . thats prolly the guy you should really be swinging a bat towards . . LOL

Oh, and btw, thank-you Mike Pence . . the more women voters that turn out the better I like it.
It was like picking Jerry Falwell, Jr., in a way. We definitely do NOT need any evangelicals in the White House!
 
So despite the thousands of employees who work in the FBI, CIA, State Department, Department of Defense, etc. you're trying to pin responsibility for the entire event on one man who had been out of office for 8 months? That kind of partisan rhetoric is really disturbing. I have a hard time taking anything you say seriously if you actually believe that's a reasonable interpretation of 9/11.

The reciprocal of this is also true.

And FWIW, our current POTUS spent the majority of his first term blaming the Bush Admin for why he was failing to fulfill all of his campaign promises.
 
The reciprocal of this is also true.
Nonsense. Characterize it as a collective failure of the intelligence community, but saying 9/11 happened because one man failed to "follow through" is asinine. Unless of course you're referring to George W. Bush, who the CIA warned 36 times before 9/11 that Al Qaeda presented an imminent threat.

Am I doing it right?
And FWIW, our current POTUS spent the majority of his first term blaming the Bush Admin for why he was failing to fulfill all of his campaign promises.
Just like the Bush Administration spent its first term blaming Clinton for the economic recession.

Can you stop for a minute to appreciate how ridiculous all this partisan finger-pointing is? That kind of attitude has turned political policy and discourse in this country into a complete disaster.
 
As if that was not bad enough, they double down on it screaming that Trump is calling for Russia to hack again and provide him with emails that Hillary deleted well back? Now how do you hack now to get emails that were deleted months ago? THINK FOLKS...
When you a delete a file, it isn’t really erased – it continues existing on your hard drive, even after you empty it from the Recycle Bin.
 
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My God, this is a flat speech. Could anyone be more annoying?
 
Nonsense. Characterize it as a collective failure of the intelligence community, but saying 9/11 happened because one man failed to "follow through" is asinine. Unless of course you're referring to George W. Bush, who the CIA warned 36 times before 9/11 that Al Qaeda presented an imminent threat.

Am I doing it right?
Just like the Bush Administration spent its first term blaming Clinton for the economic recession.

Can you stop for a minute to appreciate how ridiculous all this partisan finger-pointing is? That kind of attitude has turned political policy and discourse in this country into a complete disaster.


I don't have time to type all this out on my phone, but of course both sides do it. I never said otherwise. And if you read back, I already acknowledged that I think some of the blame goes on both sides.
 
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Am I all for it? Absolutely. The article wasn't about ME. I'm not North Korea. You're going to sprain your wrist spinning this any harder.
I'm not spinning anything. You haven't explained why it's a bad thing. If you are all for it then you should be thrilled about it. He hasn't even been elected and he already has a better relationship with them than Obama.
 
When you a delete a file, it isn’t really erased – it continues existing on your hard drive, even after you empty it from the Recycle Bin.
True, but it isn't her hdd they need. Just about every mail server application in the world now stores deleted email in hidden message stores. So it's actually the server they need to get to, not her hdd. And they have shown they can do that with relative ease.
 
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Nonsense. Characterize it as a collective failure of the intelligence community, but saying 9/11 happened because one man failed to "follow through" is asinine. Unless of course you're referring to George W. Bush, who the CIA warned 36 times before 9/11 that Al Qaeda presented an imminent threat.

Am I doing it right?
Just like the Bush Administration spent its first term blaming Clinton for the economic recession.

Can you stop for a minute to appreciate how ridiculous all this partisan finger-pointing is? That kind of attitude has turned political policy and discourse in this country into a complete disaster.

Just to compound on this, as I said, I blame BOTH sides here. I simply said I would place more of the blame on Clinton b/c I believe he failed, by his own admission, to catch this guy when he had the opportunities to do so. At this point, though, if you disagree...cool, we will just have to agree to disagree.

On the second point here -- I cannot stand it when administrations blame the previous regime for all of their own failures. It comes across as extremely weak and masks their own inabilities to get anything done. I understand both sides do this, but just expressing that I cannot stand it. As the leader of this country, you should be able to show a heightened level of accountability and not simply play into the C.Y.A. culture that is rampant in today's age. Put your name on it, and own the results, good, bad, or indifferent.

Does that better explain where I stand here? Don't get it twisted - I blame both parties.
 
True, but it isn't her hdd they need. Just about every mail server application in the world now stores deleted email in hidden message stores. So it's actually the server they need to get to, not her hdd. And they have shown they can do that with relative ease.
Yeah, I was just trying to convey the concept and went with the first link that came up haha.
 
lol. Torture women and children? Haha. Did CNN tell you that was going to happen?
No it came from his own mouth. “You have to take out their families,” Trump said in December, referring to members of ISIS and other terrorist groups. “They say they don’t care about their lives. You have to take out their families.”
 
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This logic breaks at the 4th paragraph. His personal tax returns would be evidence of his own personal financial success. It has no bearing on the success of his companies. His companies could be losing millions or billions, and he still takes a 100 mil salary. Or... his companies could be raking in billions and he takes a petty salary of 100K. Or, most likely - the truth is somewhere in the middle of those two.

If people didn't drink the media kool-aid on the damn personal tax returns issue, and realize that what they should be focused on is his businesses financial statements - we'd all be better off. I'll reiterate a point I made earlier - if we got the financial statements from his various entities and the financial statements from the Clinton Foundation... we'd have a much better idea of which of the two can runner a better, less corrupt, organization.
 
This logic breaks at the 4th paragraph. His personal tax returns would be evidence of his own personal financial success. It has no bearing on the success of his companies. His companies could be losing millions or billions, and he still takes a 100 mil salary. Or... his companies could be raking in billions and he takes a petty salary of 100K. Or, most likely - the truth is somewhere in the middle of those two.

If people didn't drink the media kool-aid on the damn personal tax returns issue, and realize that what they should be focused on is his businesses financial statements - we'd all be better off. I'll reiterate a point I made earlier - if we got the financial statements from his various entities and the financial statements from the Clinton Foundation... we'd have a much better idea of which of the two can runner a better, less corrupt, organization.
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No it came from his own mouth. “You have to take out their families,” Trump said in December, referring to members of ISIS and other terrorist groups. “They say they don’t care about their lives. You have to take out their families.”
Thanks for clarifying your earlier statement. It sounded a little nutty without context. :p
 
No it came from his own mouth. “You have to take out their families,” Trump said in December, referring to members of ISIS and other terrorist groups. “They say they don’t care about their lives. You have to take out their families.”

hmm maybe my reading comprehension is going... but I didn't see the word torture in there at all. I'll read it again another couple times to see if I missed it though.
 
hmm maybe my reading comprehension is going... but I didn't see the word torture in there at all. I'll read it again another couple times to see if I missed it though.
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“You have to take out their families,” Trump said in December, referring to members of ISIS and other terrorist groups. “They say they don’t care about their lives. You have to take out their families.”

I'm sorry, I'm sure he meant take their families out to dinner......lol
 
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“You have to take out their families,” Trump said in December, referring to members of ISIS and other terrorist groups. “They say they don’t care about their lives. You have to take out their families.”

I'm sorry, I'm sure he meant take their families out to dinner......lol

Or maybe he meant take out their families in the same way that the Israelis do.
 
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“You have to take out their families,” Trump said in December, referring to members of ISIS and other terrorist groups. “They say they don’t care about their lives. You have to take out their families.”

I'm sorry, I'm sure he meant take their families out to dinner......lol
Just admit you made up the torture part to embellish your point that you think he is unfit for the presidency. It's what those in the tank for Hillary are doing out there. Because I'm sorry, an honest side-by-side comparison of these two isn't to the advantage of Hillary.
 
Oh, so he meant kill not torture. That's much better.

You guys are really splitting hairs. The point you're dancing around is that Trump is advocating the murder of women and children.
 
Oh, so he meant kill not torture. That's much better.

You guys are really splitting hairs. The point you're dancing around is that Trump is advocating the murder of women and children.
Well it s not torture, which was what was said. Advocating going after terrorists families may not be nice, may sound ugly, but it's a lot different than saying we are going to round them up and torture them all first before killing them. And remember that within the context of war/terrorism, it's all ugly business. But just being an idle target isn't the answer.
 
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