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Trump & Hillary

Yes please. I thought the Trump haters on here disliked him because he was racist. But then they were racist and age discriminated right back!

I need a counselor to tell me its all going to be ok!

The MAIN reason, I do not care for Trump is his childish antics when things do not go his way or if someone says something he does not like. That scares me when he reacts that way because as President he is going to have many, many things come up he is going to disagree with and that will just piss him off and he will not always get his way, CONGRESS will be his nightmare! It terrifies me to think of how he will handle serious things. The fact that he is a HUGE asshole and has the most extreme narcissistic disorder I have ever seen in my life is scary enough but that it not the main reason I do not want this man in office. He could run circles around anyone in the business world, I have no doubt, but running a country.... not a chance in Hades!
 
Yes please. I thought the Trump haters on here disliked him because he was racist. But then they were racist and age discriminated right back!

I need a counselor to tell me its all going to be ok!
By pointing out that they are old and white doesn't mean I think they're inferior. You got the wrong guy if you're looking for a PCSJW or most other acronyms.

I don't think Trump is racially prejudiced any more than most old white guys from his generation. I really don't. He is a self-obsessed loudmouth whose main priority is getting even with anyone who criticizes him. He has no humility at all. He exhibits textbook narcissism and has inferiority complexes out the wah-zoo. I do believe that the following he has built is indicative of a dissatisfied American public. That's promising. However, putting your trust in that guy is frightening to me.
 
It's entertaining watching white men claim they're being racially discriminated against.
 
Hillary is like Putin. If she wins, that will demonstrate like it has with Putin, that elections do not necessarily preserve rule of law, and that Americans are no longer willing to uphold the rule of law.

Thank God Trump and Putin are buddies. I'm sure he will be able to get lots of world leader tips from him!
 
Crazier? Maybe so. Angrier?? Nope. Baffled by the anger on the right.
Libtards aren't angry? Then explain all the venom for Bush who was nothing more than a big gubmit Republican. Explain the constant attacks on Republican candidates at all levels? Are you just tone deaf or are you listening to the venom spewed at MSNBC all the time? Libtards are much , much angrier than conservatives , probably because they have no real agenda to stand behind other than attacking conservatives. By the way you seem to be always baffled.
 
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Libtards aren't angry? Then explain all the venom for Bush who was nothing more than a big gubmit Republican. Explain the constant attacks on Republican candidates at all levels? Are you just tone deaf or are you listening to the venom spewed at MSNBC all the time? Libtards are much , much angrier than conservatives , probably because they have no real agenda to stand behind other than attacking conservatives. By the way you seem to be always baffled.

I think frustrated is the word.
 
It's like some of you have never met Strum and Chick before.

I just love how they somehow think they can claim the moral high ground by casting votes for people that can't possibly win. I guess they think it somehow absolves them of any responsibility or accountability while the rest of us gripe about the current state of affairs, what ever that may be. Fact of the matter is it doesn't. By casting a meaningless vote they are contributing nothing but wasted time and energy and are simply leaving it to others to decide their futures.

I can't help but chuckle when I think that both may have voted Libertarian in every election they've been eligible to participate in. That means they've never seen their choice for anything win anything. No wonder Strum seems so angry all the time...he's never influenced anything at all that matters nationally or locally. How sad.
 
I just love how they somehow think they can claim the moral high ground by casting votes for people that can't possibly win. I guess they think it somehow absolves them of any responsibility or accountability while the rest of us gripe about the current state of affairs, what ever that may be. Fact of the matter is it doesn't. By casting a meaningless vote they are contributing nothing but wasted time and energy and are simply leaving it to others to decide their futures.

I can't help but chuckle when I think that both may have voted Libertarian in every election they've been eligible to participate in. That means they've never seen their choice for anything win anything. No wonder Strum seems so angry all the time...he's never influenced anything at all that matters nationally or locally. How sad.

I tend to think Strum votes 3rd party so he can complain and place blame on others without ever having to accept any responsibility for his vote.
 
I thought I said that, lol.

and this is for you too @UNC71-00
Y'all can make fun of us all you want too. It is truly YOU guys who waste votes, not us!
An unprincipled vote is the only wasted vote. When you vote the “lesser of two evils” you choose a defensive vote, rather than an offensive one. So when you vote the defensive vote… well, then you have sold out your personal beliefs. So you are essentially sell outs JUST LIKE HILLARY, I will NOT do that. I love this country NOT those stupid parties you buy into!!!!

You aren’t standing up for what you believe in by voting “the lesser of two evils.” If you think the Republican or the Democrat candidate really does reflect your beliefs, then vote for that candidate, it is not wasted then. But if you don’t, and you still vote for them, you’re helping to preserve the status quo you probably despise (Hillary and Trump). How's that been working for ya so far????

A Presidential race will never be decided by one vote. And if, by some chance it did, it would be decided by Congress. Individually we don’t vote to select the winner of the election. We vote to tell everyone else which candidate best represents the direction in which we want the country to go. SO voting for the lesser evil sends the wrong message; it’s sending a message of compromise or what I truly believe is you guys saying, "I cannot think for myself so I will let this party do it for me." So a defensive vote says “I will settle for an okay America, not the best America.” So carry on with your lame-ass way of voting, please. It shows how smart you really are! You can feel sad for Strum and I all you want, but we are actually doing things the RIGHT WAY! Keep voting for the lesser of two evils or to support the love of a party you have. I will not do that. I value myself and my country much more.

STOP with the name calling, chick. Last warning. I have edited them out for the last time--Jim
 
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and this is for you too @UNC71-00
Y'all can make fun of us all you want too. It is truly YOU guys who waste votes, not us!
An unprincipled vote is the only wasted vote. When you jackasses vote the “lesser of two evils” you choose a defensive vote, rather than an offensive one. So when you vote the defensive vote… well, then you have sold out your personal beliefs. So you are essentially sell outs JUST LIKE HILLARY, I will NOT do that. I love this country NOT those stupid parties you dipwads buy into!!!!

You aren’t standing up for what you believe in by voting “the lesser of two evils.” If you think the Republican or the Democrat candidate really does reflect your beliefs, then vote for that candidate, it is not wasted then. But if you don’t, and you still vote for them, you’re helping to preserve the status quo you probably despise (Hillary and Trump). How's that been working for ya so far????

A Presidential race will never be decided by one vote. And if, by some chance it did, it would be decided by Congress. Individually we don’t vote to select the winner of the election. We vote to tell everyone else which candidate best represents the direction in which we want the country to go. SO voting for the lesser evil sends the wrong message; it’s sending a message of compromise or what I truly believe is you guys saying, "I cannot think for myself so I will let this party do it for me." So a defensive vote says “I will settle for an okay America, not the best America.” So carry on with your lame-ass way of voting, please. It shows how smart you really are! You can feel sad for Strum and I all you want, but we are actually doing things the RIGHT WAY! Keep voting for the lesser of two evils or to support the love of a party you have. I will not do that. I value myself and my country much more.


Making fun? I was dead serious. I love how YOUR way is the RIGHT way. That's the problem with you two...you think you're smarter than everyone else. Your votes mean nothing. You have affected nothing. You have changed nothing.

Sit up there on your high-horse while the rest of us decide your life. We can handle it. We're used to carrying you.
 
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And chill with the personal attacks and name calling. It will no longer be tolerated here.
 
And chill with the personal attacks and name calling. It will no longer be tolerated here.

Fine, I apologize for the name calling. I thought it was just par for the course since I have been called everything in the book, but I will refrain and please notify the others of the same, I'd hate for them to get tossed for their daily verbal insults towards me (which does not bother me, I can take it). I am sorry if I offended you.

As for the wasted vote, I fully disagree. As I stated above, we, as individuals do not decide the vote anyway. Look what happened in Florida with the Bush-Gore election. We do NOT decide it. Since that is the truth, I HAVE to vote with what best aligns with my beliefs. I honestly do not understand why any of you do not see that. Do all you really think your individual vote counts???? Are you all okay with voting for someone JUST to attempt to keep someone out of office, KNOWING that it does not work anyway???? I am just stumped here. I honestly do not understand your way of thinking and I really wish I could. It makes absolutely no sense to vote that way in my opinion.

Furthermore, I do not always think I am right. I admit when I am wrong and I apologize when I have done things offensive to others, unlike 90% of the guys around here. I am, however, doing what is RIGHT FOR ME, and that is what I believe we all need to be doing. If Trump is right for you, good, that is who you vote for. If Hillary is right for you, good, vote for her. Neither are right for me and Johnson comes the closest to my beliefs out of all running for this election and that is why I will vote the way I do.
 
Fine, I apologize for the name calling. I thought it was just par for the course since I have been called everything in the book, but I will refrain and please notify the others of the same,.

Not singling you out. Please don't think I am.

And if you had said in your earlier post it was right for you I wouldn't have framed it the way I did. I would never argue against doing what's right for you. However, I take issue when someone tells me their way is right and mine is wrong.

I've always told my kids to vote their conscience when they came to me for advice or guidance. I believe that's the best we all can do.
 
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I think frustrated is the word.
No "angry" is the word. Have you never listened to the commentators on MSNBC? I don't think any conservative has ever talked about ripping out a lib's heart and kicking it like a football. Your lack of any grasp of reality is sad and humorous at the same time.



now tell me who is hate filled?
 
No "angry" is the word. Have you never listened to the commentators on MSNBC? I don't think any conservative has ever talked about ripping out a lib's heart and kicking it like a football. Your lack of any grasp of reality is sad and humorous at the same time.



now tell me who is hate filled?

Well I don't watch any of those shows or networks so I wouldn't know. I can only speak for myself.
 
I do believe that the following he has built is indicative of a dissatisfied American public. That's promising. However, putting your trust in that guy is frightening to me.

This is something we can agree on. I like that the contingent of those dissatisfied with the current state of politics is encouraging - and yes, putting trust in Trump is frightening - but I'd argue its equal frightening for different reasons with Clinton. Maybe a 3rd party candidate would be less frightening, but unfortunately the fact of the matter is that they don't have a chance in this election.

It's entertaining watching white men claim they're being racially discriminated against.

I think it's entertaining to watch those that claim to hate discrimination discriminate on their own. I guess there's entertainment for everyone here.

There's a difference between racial, racist and racially prejudiced.

Again, agreed. And that's the point I try to make constantly, but there's a large group that considers anything racial to be prejudiced/racist.
 
Making fun? I was dead serious. I love how YOUR way is the RIGHT way. That's the problem with you two...you think you're smarter than everyone else. Your votes mean nothing. You have affected nothing. You have changed nothing.

Sit up there on your high-horse while the rest of us decide your life. We can handle it. We're used to carrying you.

I just love how they somehow think they can claim the moral high ground by casting votes for people that can't possibly win. I guess they think it somehow absolves them of any responsibility or accountability while the rest of us gripe about the current state of affairs, what ever that may be. Fact of the matter is it doesn't. By casting a meaningless vote they are contributing nothing but wasted time and energy and are simply leaving it to others to decide their futures.

I can't help but chuckle when I think that both may have voted Libertarian in every election they've been eligible to participate in. That means they've never seen their choice for anything win anything. No wonder Strum seems so angry all the time...he's never influenced anything at all that matters nationally or locally. How sad.

I tend to think Strum votes 3rd party so he can complain and place blame on others without ever having to accept any responsibility for his vote.

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QFT.

@UNC71-00 nailed it in regards to strum. That dude wants us to think he's more enlightened than us but really, it's a ruse. I don't believe half the sh*t he poasts anyway. He's got all you idiots fooled. I was once one of you. But I just cut him out. This way I can still think of him as a moron and I can still make fun of him, but I don't have to read his nonsensical drivel anymore.

And chick can't possibly think she's smarter than us. She has to at least be smart enough to know that she isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. @heelbent, you haven't been around much to know this, but she constantly poasts the most absurd comments and then gets ripped because she has no substance or anything to back up her assertions. I go back and forth between thinking she's just f**king with us or she's a parody poaster.
 
but I don't have to read his nonsensical drivel anymore.
Courtesy of strum, "Thanks for ignoring me, dick."

she has no substance or anything to back up her assertions
She has strum. I'm guessing uncboy too, but I still have him on ignore so I can't be sure. If @heelbent can get uncboy to quit with the personal attacks i'll be willing to take him off of ignore. I'm doubtful uncboy has the self control to do that though.
 
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QFT.

@UNC71-00 nailed it in regards to strum. That dude wants us to think he's more enlightened than us but really, it's a ruse. I don't believe half the sh*t he poasts anyway. He's got all you idiots fooled. I was once one of you. But I just cut him out. This way I can still think of him as a moron and I can still make fun of him, but I don't have to read his nonsensical drivel anymore.

And chick can't possibly think she's smarter than us. She has to at least be smart enough to know that she isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. @heelbent, you haven't been around much to know this, but she constantly poasts the most absurd comments and then gets ripped because she has no substance or anything to back up her assertions. I go back and forth between thinking she's just f**king with us or she's a parody poaster.

Thanks, dick. You have a wonderful day now, ya hear! xoxo
 
I just love how they somehow think they can claim the moral high ground by casting votes for people that can't possibly win. I guess they think it somehow absolves them of any responsibility or accountability while the rest of us gripe about the current state of affairs, what ever that may be. Fact of the matter is it doesn't. By casting a meaningless vote they are contributing nothing but wasted time and energy and are simply leaving it to others to decide their futures.

I can't help but chuckle when I think that both may have voted Libertarian in every election they've been eligible to participate in. That means they've never seen their choice for anything win anything. No wonder Strum seems so angry all the time...he's never influenced anything at all that matters nationally or locally. How sad.
You're not very good at interpreting sentiment... at least with me, anyway. I'm very rarely, if ever, "angry."


And, you also have a funny way of measuring the success and failure of other things as well. To claim that I have "never influenced anything at all that matters nationally or locally" sounds like you're basing the quoted part on having voted for one of these flunkies that "wins an election." Is that what constitutes as having an influence on things locally, or nationally, or even globally? Pulling a lever for one of these politicians every 4 years, and picking the "winner?" THAT'S affecting change? Doing what everyone else does is making a change? That's interesting. I'll try to remember to forget that.
 
This is something we can agree on. I like that the contingent of those dissatisfied with the current state of politics is encouraging - and yes, putting trust in Trump is frightening - but I'd argue its equal frightening for different reasons with Clinton. Maybe a 3rd party candidate would be less frightening, but unfortunately the fact of the matter is that they don't have a chance in this election.



I think it's entertaining to watch those that claim to hate discrimination discriminate on their own. I guess there's entertainment for everyone here.



Again, agreed. And that's the point I try to make constantly, but there's a large group that considers anything racial to be prejudiced/racist.

How is disagreeing with someone of the same race discrimination ??

Also someone mentioned earlier that Strum and I claim some sort of moral high ground....absolutely not true. I believe I am doing what I thought we were all suppose to do and vote for the person we think best suits our ideas on ways to move our country forward. How is that thinking we are morally doing better? I honestly would think everyone would want to do that.
 
I'll admit that I do understand @chick_bleeds_carolina_blue and @strummingram reasoning about voting for a third party candidate. I have done that in local elections. I don't feel any candidate is worth my vote this time, so unless something weird happens I'll be skipping the presidential election and just worrying about local offices and other federal offices.
Personal Attacks needs a more definitive classification.

You'll figure it out. You're a smart guy. ;)
 
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