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To those saying Trump will never get his nominees confirmed, interesting opinion piece in Politico from someone who isn't exactly Orange friendly. Highlights:

“The last time a nominee was rejected on the floor of the Senate was in 1989.”
“Trump has consistently demonstrated his capacity to intimidate Republican legislators into doing his bidding.”
“[T]he Republican majority in the next Senate is wholly different from the majority Trump faced in his first term…”

https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...6b83-75a8-486b-9b08-3fe1d6a16220&nlid=2758340
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heelbent said:
Indulge an old fart..
I am genuinely interested in everyone's views on women in combat. I have very strong feelings due to personal experiences, however I am curious if the lines are as definitively drawn as they are on most issues discussed here.
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I didn't serve either, so what do I know? My friends that did are mixed on the issue and there always seems to be a breakdown on lines of age. Older tend to be against it and younger are fine with it. I guess where I fall on it is that anyone in any given role needs to be capable of doing that role. So that would apply regardless of any particular characteristic. Figuring out those standards and making them consistent regardless of sex or other characteristics would seem to be the challenge in today's environment.
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pooponduke said:
I find this type of statement to be rather humorous. First, I fully acknowledge that you well may be correct. But the question is, how on earth would you know? How can you make such a statement of fact/opinion? Is there some sort of rating or ranking service upon which you are relying and, if so, how is it that you can assure yourself that they themselves aren't "peddling propaganda"?

The main thing to consider though is how would you even be able to voice an educated position on the issue? You have routinely stated that you do NOT watch any of the so-called news services. Thus, you would have no basis to even make a comparison. And your postings on such things are 99% of the time to YouTube or others doing alleged comedy routines about news events. And if we've learned anything, those comedians/programs are part of the domination of media by the left agenda - so the jokes and routines aren't exactly what one would consider neutral or right leaning. That doesn't mean they aren't hilarious (Triumph is one of the funniest shticks ever done), but it doesn't make them news sources either.

Fox definitely has their leanings and they play to their audience. Since there are so many on the other side of things, it explains their huge audience as they are the one main "opposing" source that's carried on all the cable/tv services. But they are no better at "peddling" their leanings than anyone else. All your statement really demonstrates is your false flag of neutrality because Fox tends to be well right of where you really are and everyone else is just fine from your view. But just because you fully agree with them, that doesn't mean they aren't peddling or aren't really, really good at it.

Not picking a fight or anything, just asking that you take a step back and consider the circumstances around your belief before making such a sweeping statement. The mere fact that they had to pay a shit ton of money because they once chased a narrative that was false doesn't etch something in stone.
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strummingram said:
Fox News is the best at peddling propaganda.
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I find this type of statement to be rather humorous. First, I fully acknowledge that you well may be correct. But the question is, how on earth would you know? How can you make such a statement of fact/opinion? Is there some sort of rating or ranking service upon which you are relying and, if so, how is it that you can assure yourself that they themselves aren't "peddling propaganda"?

The main thing to consider though is how would you even be able to voice an educated position on the issue? You have routinely stated that you do NOT watch any of the so-called news services. Thus, you would have no basis to even make a comparison. And your postings on such things are 99% of the time to YouTube or others doing alleged comedy routines about news events. And if we've learned anything, those comedians/programs are part of the domination of media by the left agenda - so the jokes and routines aren't exactly what one would consider neutral or right leaning. That doesn't mean they aren't hilarious (Triumph is one of the funniest shticks ever done), but it doesn't make them news sources either.

Fox definitely has their leanings and they play to their audience. Since there are so many on the other side of things, it explains their huge audience as they are the one main "opposing" source that's carried on all the cable/tv services. But they are no better at "peddling" their leanings than anyone else. All your statement really demonstrates is your false flag of neutrality because Fox tends to be well right of where you really are and everyone else is just fine from your view. But just because you fully agree with them, that doesn't mean they aren't peddling or aren't really, really good at it.

Not picking a fight or anything, just asking that you take a step back and consider the circumstances around your belief before making such a sweeping statement. The mere fact that they had to pay a shit ton of money because they once chased a narrative that was false doesn't etch something in stone.
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heelbent said:
Indulge an old fart..
I am genuinely interested in everyone's views on women in combat. I have very strong feelings due to personal experiences, however I am curious if the lines are as definitively drawn as they are on most issues discussed here.
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I never served, so my opinion is worth what you paid for it. But...

If they want to go into combat, that's great, provided they don't endanger others. They should be able to meet the same physical requirements and abilities that anyone else would have to. I wouldn't want to get stuck in a foxhole with someone who couldn't meet the standard of being there.
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blazers said:
Nite one, when a large % of votes still hadn't been counted out west, some maga-morons were comparing Harris' vote totals to Biden's 2020 81 million votes. It was like 61 at the time, 66 another yelling "see, no way Biden's # we're legit, where were these 15 or 20 million"

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blazers said:
Votes are still being counted, looks like Trump won fewer than 50% of Americans' votes, tightest margin of victory since Gore-Bush. Pollsters said it was going to be close.


House actually shifted blue by +2 seats. Tester and Manchin obviously flipped senate from blue to red (Pennsylvania is recounting that race).

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Over two weeks later and they're still counting votes, lol. Maybe the process can be fixed next time but I doubt it.

Tightest margin of victory since Gore-Bush? This was a bigger blowout than either of the prior two Trump elections and Bush-Kerry. Assuming we're talking about what constitutes a "victory"; the EC. Pollsters got clowned again.

Trump got more total votes than Harris. Over 50% of the people that voted for a viable candidate and didn't torch their vote like @tarheel0910
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heelbent said:
Indulge an old fart..
I am genuinely interested in everyone's views on women in combat. I have very strong feelings due to personal experiences, however I am curious if the lines are as definitively drawn as they are on most issues discussed here.
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against it in general, but then it depends on the role. Absolutely against them being grunts on the ground. To me that's just about as sensible as allowing biological men to play on women's sports teams.
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strummingram said:
I would expect you to question everything that threatens your world view. Actually, you'd be more inclined to deny it to your dying day.
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lol, reality is what threatens your crazy-quilt world view. It takes only a small dose to scare you into running off to see Alice in Wonderland where things seem more logical to you. I'm pretty sure you've never come back from there with anything that threatens my world view.
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