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2024 Transfer Portal Thread

I suggest we put all our bigs through Witcher training. It will help identify who has the potential we need.

But none of that hanging on the rim stuff like Ciri does at the end.

 
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Of the guys being mentioned, and in the portal, plus the guy NOT in the portal.....
My top 3 in order would be:
Kalkbrenner ( not in portal)
Goldin
Omouryi
These are the 3 physical, athletic " Type" I think we need for our 5 spot.
Not sure how involved, if at all we are.
THIS is MY starting point.
 
It’s a little surprising we haven’t heard anything yet from our guys. Maybe that indicates less transfers out or maybe some decisions depend on RJ/HI’s.
The player/coach meetings started a couple days ago.
 
I know I’m in the minority but I think if we had Dickinson this year instead of Bacot, we’re playing this Saturday at 9:49.
Bacot proved many times he's better than Dickinson. He proved it head to head in college on multiple occasions. He proved it every day in practice when they were on the same AAU team. Dickinson was the better perimeter shooter. Bacot was the better low post scorer, better defender, better teammate, and the more physical presence. Hunter Dickinson is Bacot's little brother.
 
I know I’m in the minority but I think if we had Dickinson this year instead of Bacot, we’re playing this Saturday at 9:49.
Bacot proved many times he's better than Dickinson. He proved it head to head in college on multiple occasions. He proved it every day in practice when they were on the same AAU team. Dickinson was the better perimeter shooter. Bacot was the better low post scorer, better defender, better teammate, and the more physical presence. Hunter Dickinson is Bacot's little brother.

Yeah, I hate doing it but I completely agree with Dave. I wonder what could possibly be behind the thought that Dickinson gives us a better chance.
 
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Yeah, I hate doing it but I completely agree with Dave. I wonder what could possibly be behind the thought that Dickinson gives us a better chance.
I don’t mean to under appreciate all Bacot contributed to the Heels. On defense often and rebounding, and even crafty scoring in the paint.

I know he gave it his all and he likely got all he could out of his physical gifts. I think a term people use here that I can’t quite define is: did Bacot have any “dog” in him. Did he play with fire, with intensity, was he a vocal leader, when things were good but especially when they were going bad? I didn’t see it.

His numbers will be hard to replace. No doubt. I think we can find someone who finishes better, more physically at the rim, including when guarded or not guarded. Make more than 60% of dunks and layups.

Look at the tape breakdown @NathanFielder did. on the Tide game So often Bacot was in no man’s land guarding the paint with no offensive player in the paint. Slow to close out.

And over just too many big games this year where we needed Bacot to be THE MAN - he disappeared - taking <10% of our shots when imo he should’ve taken approx 30-40+%

In 16 of our 37 games Bacot took 8 or fewer shots. 3 games he took 4 shots. A few he took 6 shots. I realize getting fouled skews those fg attempts but is it too much to ask one of your top 2 offensive weapons to get up 5+ shots per half, in a high possession offense?
 
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I don’t mean to under appreciate all Bacot contributed to the Heels. On defense often and rebounding, and even crafty scoring in the paint.

I know he gave it his all and he likely got all he could out of his physical gifts. I think a term people use here that I can’t quite define is: did Bacot have any “dog” in him. Did he play with fire, with intensity, was he a vocal leader, when things were good but especially when they were going bad? I didn’t see it.

His numbers will be hard to replace. No doubt. I think we can find someone who finishes better, more physically at the rim, including when guarded or not guarded. Make more than 60% of dunks and layups.

Look at the tape breakdown @NathanFielder did. on the Tide game So often Bacot was in no man’s land guarding the paint with no offensive player in the paint. Slow to close out.

And over just too many big games this year where we needed Bacot to be THE MAN - he disappeared - taking <10% of our shots when imo he should’ve taken approx 30-40+%

I agree with all of that. Every word. But I’m failing to see how Dickinson remedies any of those issues.
 
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Bacot proved many times he's better than Dickinson. He proved it head to head in college on multiple occasions. He proved it every day in practice when they were on the same AAU team. Dickinson was the better perimeter shooter. Bacot was the better low post scorer, better defender, better teammate, and the more physical presence. Hunter Dickinson is Bacot's little brother.

That doesn’t change my mind that we’d still be playing if we had Dickinson.
 
Reached out to Belmont forward Cade Tyson.

6'7 and is ranked as high as 18th in transfer rankings on some sites. Really nice looking jump shot.
 
Reached out to Belmont forward Cade Tyson.

6'7 and is ranked as high as 18th in transfer rankings on some sites. Really nice looking jump shot.
3p% = 46.5
2p% = 51.9
FT% = 85.5

Sounds like what we were hoping Nickel would be.

I imagine he'll get a bunch of offers.

Then again, he's from a weaker school that wasn't all that great even with him and a hotshot PG. So how well will he translate.

Good genes (brother of Clemson's Hunter Tyson).
 
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On the Hunter Dickinson, strong no for me, this Cade Tyson kid is really interesting, I believe I read he was the #2 shooter in college from last season. I am interested in Omouri and Goldin, the Stanford kid is not bad either but rumor is he is likely to state at Stanford, wonder if Ingram has talked to him.
 
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3p% = 46.5
2p% = 51.9
FT% = 85.5

Sounds like what we were hoping Nickel would be.

I imagine he'll get a bunch of offers.

Then again, he's from a weaker school that wasn't all that great even with him and a hotshot PG. So how well will he translate.

Good genes (brother of Clemson's Hunter Tyson).

Over 30 schools have made contact with him already. Duke, UK, UVa, UT, Texas, Michigan, and just about every other major program. Tyson is certainly no secret or "little known". He's a major get in the portal. Ranked only 18th but one of the most coveted portal guys this year.
 
Over 30 schools have made contact with him already. Duke, UK, UVa, UT, Texas, Michigan, and just about every other major program. Tyson is certainly no secret or "little known". He's a major get in the portal. Ranked only 18th but one of the most coveted portal guys this year.
Why do you think he’s ranked 18th? I know that’s not horrible but if he’s all that then surely there’s something taking him down in the rankings. Just wondering
 
Why do you think he’s ranked 18th? I know that’s not horrible but if he’s all that then surely there’s something taking him down in the rankings. Just wondering
I think his brother Hunter was more physical and athletic, but Cade may be a better offensive player, with two more years left. I think he is a kid that will acclimate to the better competition and could be a diamond once he gets with better quality players.
 
Why do you think he’s ranked 18th? I know that’s not horrible but if he’s all that then surely there’s something taking him down in the rankings. Just wondering

I’m not sure how those rankings are made so I can’t really say. But my best guess is that they evaluate each player in a vacuum. So Tyson isn’t the most athletic, probably not a great finisher, may have trouble putting the ball on the deck, or possibly a defensive liability. Again, I don’t know those to be true about him. I’m just suggesting that may be why he has been “dinged” and only comes in at 18.

But the reality is that any team looking to get him will not ask him to do those things. They are asking him to be a shot maker. And he is elite as such. His presence alone will space the floor for any offense and that plus his shot making can move a good team to great. So the rankings, I reckon, don’t take that into account. Instead, they evaluate him on an individual skill level basis. That’s my guess.
 
I'm a fan of Cade Tyson. Has some limitations, not overly twitchy or bouncy so maybe he has some defensive struggles against certain matchups. But this team will need shooters and I'm almost always down for a 6'7" dude who can shoot. He looks like he has long arms and a decent reach too (although playing in short shorts may distort that view).

I also like that he was a 14 PPG scorer as a freshman. It doesn't mean everything, but Wojcik took 3 years to score 9 PPG. Tyson was productive and asked to score from the get-go. So I don't think it's a Wojcik situation.

From the little I saw, I saw some ability to play off 2 feet from the elbow or in the paint. Which I am extremely partial to. I think that stuff translates at any level of basketball.
 
3p% = 46.5
2p% = 51.9
FT% = 85.5

Sounds like what we were hoping Nickel would be.

I imagine he'll get a bunch of offers.

Then again, he's from a weaker school that wasn't all that great even with him and a hotshot PG. So how well will he translate.

Good genes (brother of Clemson's Hunter Tyson).
I think the only thing that concerns me about a kid from a lesser program and a weaker conference is figuring out how to mesh in with better talent, how to go from having the ultimate green light against lesser talent levels to having to pick his spots and be less the center of attention. Classic example of this I think is JWit, he struggled to find that really good mesh, tried to do to much early on, forced things that he did not need to. Those kids have to take a step back but that is easier said than done, it isn't easy to go from star to role player. It isn't a question of being selfish, a kid like that believes he can help the team more in an expanded role, same applies to Caleb in his last season with us, same applies to RJ now.
I'm a fan of Cade Tyson. Has some limitations, not overly twitchy or bouncy so maybe he has some defensive struggles against certain matchups. But this team will need shooters and I'm almost always down for a 6'7" dude who can shoot. He looks like he has long arms and a decent reach too (although playing in short shorts may distort that view).

I also like that he was a 14 PPG scorer as a freshman. It doesn't mean everything, but Wojcik took 3 years to score 9 PPG. Tyson was productive and asked to score from the get-go. So I don't think it's a Wojcik situation.

From the little I saw, I saw some ability to play off 2 feet from the elbow or in the paint. Which I am extremely partial to. I think that stuff translates at any level of basketball.

Nathan, just wanted to take a second and welcome you to this board, I have completely enjoyed your posts and very much look forward to many more!
 
I'm a fan of Cade Tyson. Has some limitations, not overly twitchy or bouncy so maybe he has some defensive struggles against certain matchups. But this team will need shooters and I'm almost always down for a 6'7" dude who can shoot. He looks like he has long arms and a decent reach too (although playing in short shorts may distort that view).

I also like that he was a 14 PPG scorer as a freshman. It doesn't mean everything, but Wojcik took 3 years to score 9 PPG. Tyson was productive and asked to score from the get-go. So I don't think it's a Wojcik situation.

From the little I saw, I saw some ability to play off 2 feet from the elbow or in the paint. Which I am extremely partial to. I think that stuff translates at any level of basketball.
Yeah, I don't think he is as physical or athletic as his brother Hunter was, but his offensive game is further along at the same point. Now he is visibly much bigger than he was two years ago, so he may be maturing later too.
 
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I'm a fan of Cade Tyson. Has some limitations, not overly twitchy or bouncy so maybe he has some defensive struggles against certain matchups. But this team will need shooters and I'm almost always down for a 6'7" dude who can shoot. He looks like he has long arms and a decent reach too (although playing in short shorts may distort that view).

I also like that he was a 14 PPG scorer as a freshman. It doesn't mean everything, but Wojcik took 3 years to score 9 PPG. Tyson was productive and asked to score from the get-go. So I don't think it's a Wojcik situation.

From the little I saw, I saw some ability to play off 2 feet from the elbow or in the paint. Which I am extremely partial to. I think that stuff translates at any level of basketball.
Every big time school is stalking this guy. Cade has lots going for him. He was league freshman of the year, second team all league this year, and has 2 years remaining. He is the younger brother of Hunter Tyson(Clemson), drafted in the NBA second round. His shooting percentage stats are elite in fg, 3pt, and foul line. Hes a smart, fundamental, team player(we always need these). He led Belmont in rebounding and minutes played.

I see it this way. He is a specialist at this point relying on the offensive system to generate his open shots. He will trust in Hubert that open shots will be made available. Quickness and ball handling are things he needs work on. He is not a shot creator at this point,(although his brother has greatly improved his ball handling, attackability, and his stock is on the rise for making an NBA roster soon) so he may improve to the point where he can attack from the perimeter. Cade is slightly smaller than his brother. I feel people in the know project him to be the same player as his brother.

On a side note, he is from Piedmont HS in Monroe NC(20 mi from Charlotte). Thats Carolina territory. Hubert needs more NC starter type players on that roster(glad to have Drake next season).
 
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Okonkwo looks to be leaving Carolina and entering the portal after only one year according to TOS. Although he wasn’t expected to play much, that puts additional emphasis on bigs and depth pieces at center.
 
Okonkwo looks to be leaving Carolina and entering the portal after only one year according to TOS. Although he wasn’t expected to play much, that puts additional emphasis on bigs and depth pieces at center.
Considering how little Okonkwo played, I guess that's not a surprise but I'll be sorry to see him go. He had good energy, a good attitude and pretty good hops. He looked lost early on, but I figured he'd get better with PT.

What about High? He saw his minutes cut, after showing flashes early in the season. He also showed some possibly inappropriate aggression a couple of times. I don't know if that's an issue.

I never expect freshman bigs to explode unless they are really high-ranked. Which Brown isn't.

Considering we still have concerns about Washington (motor, stamina, defense), it seems like we don't have ANY bigs we can be sure of.

Everybody agrees we need a really good big from the portal. But is one enough?
 
Considering how little Okonkwo played, I guess that's not a surprise but I'll be sorry to see him go. He had good energy, a good attitude and pretty good hops. He looked lost early on, but I figured he'd get better with PT.

What about High? He saw his minutes cut, after showing flashes early in the season. He also showed some possibly inappropriate aggression a couple of times. I don't know if that's an issue.

I never expect freshman bigs to explode unless they are really high-ranked. Which Brown isn't.

Considering we still have concerns about Washington (motor, stamina, defense), it seems like we don't have ANY bigs we can be sure of.

Everybody agrees we need a really good big from the portal. But is one enough?
Okonkwo was the next strongest big on the roster behind Bacot. I thought he might get called on to play when Bacot rested against teams with strong centers, but that never seemed to happen.

High is walking foul machine. His per 40 stats are hilarious. He would average 9 fouls per 40 minutes played.

We're definitely at a major crossroads with Bacot leaving. We need someone who can physically defend powerful centers while also being decent on perimeter defense, as well as provide a low post scoring option and rebounding presence. We likely won't get that from just one portal guy.

And if Ingram goes pro, we're in a world of hurt when it comes to rebounding. I haven't even seen anyone mention any comboforwards or stretch 4s we might be looking at in the portal, so hopefully that means Ingram is coming back.
 
FWIW, 11 of 247's top 25 portal entrants have already been snapped up.
Those rankings will change as more people enter the portal.

Also, don't put too much stock in those rankings. They had Nick Timberlake almost the same as Ingram, and 50 some spots higher than Cormac Ryan last year.
 
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