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2024 Transfer Portal Thread

I love our approach: why rush and get the first person available? I like getting to know the player and ensure they fit and will be an additive to the Carolina Way!

If we "miss" on a few, it has been my experience that this usually is not a negative for us. Patience just might be a virtue here!
 
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Those rankings will change as more people enter the portal.

Also, don't put too much stock in those rankings. They had Nick Timberlake almost the same as Ingram, and 50 some spots higher than Cormac Ryan last year.
It seems to me that any player who wants to end up in coaching might want to play for as many good coaches as he can. The portal could be great for those players - assuming they play well enough to get picked up by good coaches.
 
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I love our approach: why rush and get the first person available? I like getting to know the player and ensure they fit and will be an additive to the Carolina Way!

If we "miss" on a few, it has been my experience that this usually is not a negative for us. Patience just might be a virtue here!
Not to mention that our portal strategy could change a lot, depending on who leaves and stays.

Can someone update us on what the rules are for entering the draft and being able to come back if you aren't drafted. I remember that being talked about a few years back but I don't know where it stands.

Also, is there any way to find out (or approximate) the NIL guys like RJ and Harrison can expect if they return? How would those numbers compare with going overseas, or G-League?

Are there any drawbacks to staying for another year?

RJ has nothing to prove, and it's doubtful he can improve his stock by staying. But if it won't hurt his overseas options, and if the NIL is good, why not stay?

Ingram could improve his stock by staying another year, but is that what would actually happen? He has a chance to make it in the NBA, I think, but is it better to jump now or polish the resume?
 
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IMO: Ingram should definitely strike while his iron is hot! RJ will make much more at UNC so I think he should return! I would love for the whole team to run it back since they were a fun bunch to root for!
 
IMO: Ingram should definitely strike while his iron is hot! RJ will make much more at UNC so I think he should return! I would love for the whole team to run it back since they were a fun bunch to root for!
I agree Ingram would probably benefit more from going now but selfishly of the two i would rather he return. We obviously don’t know what the roster will look like but for the team to take a big step forward I think RJ’s role needs to shrink some and I can’t see it happening.

For those who have seen more of him, would you prefer RJ or Jackson to handle backup PG duties if they’re the only candidates?
 
IMO: Ingram should definitely strike while his iron is hot! RJ will make much more at UNC so I think he should return! I would love for the whole team to run it back since they were a fun bunch to root for!
RJ is going to do what he feels is ion his and his family's best interest and I wish nothing but great things for what ever he decides. I believe it was AJ that said a day or so ago that RJ has nothing but great options no matter what he decides. Exactly what he deserves and I am happy for him.

But it does put me in a odd mindset when I ponder if the team would be better off with or with out him for next season, I am honestly on the fence on that question. Truth is RJ and Cadeau in the same back court got us burned to often by bigger guards, it was a season long problem that didn't improve a lot. The result was a LOT of time with Cadeau on the bench and RJ running the point and I just do not love RJ at the point. This team really clocks with a true PG running it and Cadeau is the only true PG we have, we have combos, RJ is a combo but Cadeau is the point guard.

I do think there were times we bogged down that saw 4 guys watching to see what RJ was going to do, I got Caleb flash backs on some of those heat checks.

Of course the positives to him coming back for UNC basketball are obvious, he is a great kid and represents the program exceptionally, was named ACC POY that he well deserved, scored a ton of needed points this season, and stayed to help lead this team from the very dark place it was just a year ago. I didn't want Caleb to leave but felt the team may be better without him, that they could only find a new path without him or without RJ, together it didn't work. Mondo and RJ were the only remaining ties to Hubert's first 2 seasons as coach, regular seasons that fell well below where you expect the talent that UNC has to produce. This season, only RJ and Mondo were Roy recruits, now Mondo is gone, maybe it is time for RJ to leave as well and we move forward with Hubert's guys?

Has me conflicted...
 
I agree Ingram would probably benefit more from going now but selfishly of the two i would rather he return. We obviously don’t know what the roster will look like but for the team to take a big step forward I think RJ’s role needs to shrink some and I can’t see it happening.

For those who have seen more of him, would you prefer RJ or Jackson to handle backup PG duties if they’re the only candidates?
I think R.J. being gone would be easier to navigate than losing Ingram. I would obviously like both to return, but we have some possibilities lined up to fill R.J. role.
How well they do, is an unknown.
I just don't think we have a player(s) in place to replace what HI did for us.
I have made it known that I don't think Withers is a starter quality replacement on a team with National Champion aspirations.
To answer your last question....
5th year Sr R.J. over Freshman Ian as backup pg all day.
 
I agree Ingram would probably benefit more from going now but selfishly of the two i would rather he return. We obviously don’t know what the roster will look like but for the team to take a big step forward I think RJ’s role needs to shrink some and I can’t see it happening.

For those who have seen more of him, would you prefer RJ or Jackson to handle backup PG duties if they’re the only candidates?
Definitely not Jackson, no shade at all from me toward Jack but I DO NOT want to see him at our PG spot.
 
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Not to mention that our portal strategy could change a lot, depending on who leaves and stays.

Can someone update us on what the rules are for entering the draft and being able to come back if you aren't drafted. I remember that being talked about a few years back but I don't know where it stands.

Also, is there any way to find out (or approximate) the NIL guys like RJ and Harrison can expect if they return? How would those numbers compare with going overseas, or G-League?

Are there any drawbacks to staying for another year?

RJ has nothing to prove, and it's doubtful he can improve his stock by staying. But if it won't hurt his overseas options, and if the NIL is good, why not stay?

Ingram could improve his stock by staying another year, but is that what would actually happen? He has a chance to make it in the NBA, I think, but is it better to jump now or polish the resume?
Way I look at it is I consider what NBA skill/metric/ability as kid has that the NBA covets, what NBA upside does the kid have, how close is he now to his upper limit (ceiling). With RJ, I think there are 2 strong negatives in the eyes of NBA scouts, first of course he is tiny by NBA standards even for a PG but he really isn't a PG. The other real question is how much upside does he have, have we already seen the best of his game?

With Ingram, he is short even for a wing but has played multiple positions and that is attractive. I believe they will think they can improve his shooting and get him stronger, they may see some Draymon Green like traits, as in ability to initiate the breaks on his own and that ability may be able to be improved, solid passer that makes good decisions, makes for a solid developmental guy they can stash in the G-league and see what he does.
 
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RJ is going to do what he feels is ion his and his family's best interest and I wish nothing but great things for what ever he decides. I believe it was AJ that said a day or so ago that RJ has nothing but great options no matter what he decides. Exactly what he deserves and I am happy for him.

But it does put me in a odd mindset when I ponder if the team would be better off with or with out him for next season, I am honestly on the fence on that question. Truth is RJ and Cadeau in the same back court got us burned to often by bigger guards, it was a season long problem that didn't improve a lot. The result was a LOT of time with Cadeau on the bench and RJ running the point and I just do not love RJ at the point. This team really clocks with a true PG running it and Cadeau is the only true PG we have, we have combos, RJ is a combo but Cadeau is the point guard.

I do think there were times we bogged down that saw 4 guys watching to see what RJ was going to do, I got Caleb flash backs on some of those heat checks.

Of course the positives to him coming back for UNC basketball are obvious, he is a great kid and represents the program exceptionally, was named ACC POY that he well deserved, scored a ton of needed points this season, and stayed to help lead this team from the very dark place it was just a year ago. I didn't want Caleb to leave but felt the team may be better without him, that they could only find a new path without him or without RJ, together it didn't work. Mondo and RJ were the only remaining ties to Hubert's first 2 seasons as coach, regular seasons that fell well below where you expect the talent that UNC has to produce. This season, only RJ and Mondo were Roy recruits, now Mondo is gone, maybe it is time for RJ to leave as well and we move forward with Hubert's guys?

Has me conflicted...
Same here, leaning towards better if RJ moves on. Agree that having the old Roy core gone could mean a big change in the overall team dynamic and free up Hubert even more.
 
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IMO: Ingram should definitely strike while his iron is hot! RJ will make much more at UNC so I think he should return! I would love for the whole team to run it back since they were a fun bunch to root for!
Sounds like both will be declaring for the draft, leaving the door open to return, and we won't know their final decision for quite a while.

Who are the best PFs in the portal right now that could replace Ingram?
 
Very slim right now at PF in portal.
Getting the 5 spot right, allows more options in what we would take as a 4.
Sounds like both will be declaring for the draft, leaving the door open to return, and we won't know their final decision for quite a while.

Who are the best PFs in the portal right now that could replace Ingram?
 
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I have made it known that I don't think Withers is a starter quality replacement on a team with National Champion aspirations.
I was one of Whithers's biggest fans when we first signed him. I thought he should start. And I wasn't alone in that - both here and among some talking heads (including AJ).

Unfortunately, that perception didn't survive first contact with the enemy, as they say.

Sure Withers has a whole lot going for him. Size, quickness, motor and more. He's even been caught making some good passes. But he can also be loose or reckless with the ball. Often, it seems, he tries to do something - usually score - before he has full control of the ball. And his hands are a little suspect - which may be the flip side of the same thing.

I think his flaws should be coachable. If so, he could still be a starter "on a team with National Champion aspirations" to use your phrase. But just because I think he should be able to get there doesn't mean he will get there,

BTW, I like that "on a team with National Champion aspirations" test. How many of our players meet that standard? I suppose you could argue none of them do, or else we would be national champs. But we could have several and still come up short.

Add Brady Manuk to this year's team and what happens? Ingram rotates to SF, while Cormac backs up at both SG and SF for starter minutes.

That team has a good shot at a championship run.

Probably should have cloned Brady while we had the chance.
 
Okonkwo looks to be leaving Carolina and entering the portal after only one year according to TOS. Although he wasn’t expected to play much, that puts additional emphasis on bigs and depth pieces at center.
At the moment we have Washington, High, and Brown, plus are expected to add another center in the portal. We should have plenty of post depth, what we need is a high end, starter level talent.
 
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Sounds like both will be declaring for the draft, leaving the door open to return, and we won't know their final decision for quite a while.

Who are the best PFs in the portal right now that could replace Ingram?
Thiero is the best option that I've seen. Don't think there are a lot of other big PF names yet.
 
Same here, leaning towards better if RJ moves on. Agree that having the old Roy core gone could mean a big change in the overall team dynamic and free up Hubert even more.
This seems kinda crazy to me. You think losing the ACC POY is going to improve the team? Surely there are better defenders out there, but going to be very hard to improve his crazy high efficiency with low turnovers on offense. I certainly don't think Ian Jackson is going to be as good offenisvely as a freshman.

I'd take RJ all day and just try to get some big, athletic wings (or a true rim protector center). Goldin would be a great get at center IMO (not as good as Kalkbrenner, but he's not in the portal so far).
 
Thiero is the best option that I've seen. Don't think there are a lot of other big PF names yet.
0.3 three point makes per game this season. Not sure that's a great fit for Hubert's system. Though I guess if our centers are all 3pt threats it won't matter as much.

I'm watching his transfer portal highlights. He's definitely an athlete. He might give us the alley oop threat Cadeau needs.

He had two highlight blocks in the UNC game. One on RJ and one on Washington. The Washington was particularly impressive because he didn't get a running start. They are both just standing under the rim. Washington is 6'10" with a big wingspan, and Theiro just jumped up and rejected him with ease.
 
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I think R.J. being gone would be easier to navigate than losing Ingram. I would obviously like both to return, but we have some possibilities lined up to fill R.J. role.
How well they do, is an unknown.
I just don't think we have a player(s) in place to replace what HI did for us.
I have made it known that I don't think Withers is a starter quality replacement on a team with National Champion aspirations.
To answer your last question....
5th year Sr R.J. over Freshman Ian as backup pg all day.
And RJ has always said he’s a humble guy and I believe him. Did he want to be 30+% of our scoring and shots taken in a lot of games this year? I don’t think so. I also don’t think he’s like a ball hog who demands he get his 25 shots per game up come hell or high water. Maybe sometimes he shot a bit too much, did a bit too much iso ball but I always think it was interests of what he / hubs thought gave us a best chance to win.

What was he supposed to do? Give up his shots / scoring to roll the dice hoping for guys like wojcik Seth ec j-wit to score? Even Ryan and HI were quite inconsistent. I see nothing wrong with anything rj did on offense this year. Who can say with straight face deferring to a different scoring option would have turned out better?

And anyway - if rj comes back which I totally hope he does (how it can be a dilemma for some -‘I don’t understand at all) - what does he have to prove? He’s checked so many big boxes. ACC POY - 1st team all American. Lots of great records or spots on the UNC all time rankings. Jersey in rafters. All time UNC legend. Team banner hung. He has no more to prove individually (which is why - yes - you could say he should leave)

But why not come back and be a big complimentary / leader role in a team with better and more mature scoring pieces surrounding you - and much of the pressure of CARRYING this team on his back from a scoring and pg play standpoint which isn’t his jam anyway - unloaded off his shoulders next year? He could give UNC even better TEAM results next year than this year, without even shooting or scoring as much.

It wouldn’t mean he regressed as a player but instead grew as a team leader and team player. Playing in NBA is a long shot anyway so wherever he decides to play as a pro - i just don’t see one more year at the Hill hurting him. And his NIL will likely be higher than what he’d make in pro money anywhere anyway next year.
 
I was one of Whithers's biggest fans when we first signed him. I thought he should start. And I wasn't alone in that - both here and among some talking heads (including AJ).

Unfortunately, that perception didn't survive first contact with the enemy, as they say.

Sure Withers has a whole lot going for him. Size, quickness, motor and more. He's even been caught making some good passes. But he can also be loose or reckless with the ball. Often, it seems, he tries to do something - usually score - before he has full control of the ball. And his hands are a little suspect - which may be the flip side of the same thing.

I think his flaws should be coachable. If so, he could still be a starter "on a team with National Champion aspirations" to use your phrase. But just because I think he should be able to get there doesn't mean he will get there,

BTW, I like that "on a team with National Champion aspirations" test. How many of our players meet that standard? I suppose you could argue none of them do, or else we would be national champs. But we could have several and still come up short.

Add Brady Manuk to this year's team and what happens? Ingram rotates to SF, while Cormac backs up at both SG and SF for starter minutes.

That team has a good shot at a championship run.

Probably should have cloned Brady while we had the chance.
I actually think this 2024 team is quite a bit better than the 2022 team - Manek Love and all. You have a more mature, better rj and bacot - and yes I’ll definitely take Cormac and HI over Manek and Love especially considering offense DEFENSE REBOUNDING results.

2022 was an 8 seed that meandered/ backed into the tourney but who honestly felt good about how they played with each other. Sometimes (often) the ball bounces funny. love and manek got red hot for a streak of games and God bless them for it. Offensively just avoided the game RJ had against Alabama and we found out too late we couldn’t run with Alabama and didn’t have the stamina or fight or strategy (or combo of these) to actually defend top offensive team in country on a good night for them.

“He’s even been caught making some
good passes” belongs in the backhanded compliments HOF. Well played. 😂
 
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I'd take RJ all day and just try to get some big, athletic wings (or a true rim protector center). Goldin would be a great get at center IMO (not as good as Kalkbrenner, but he's not in the portal so far).
Yeah it’s entirely possible, and could impact the year after as well, when he is gone for sure. With all the accolades plus Bacot and Ryan this team was just S16 right? There were obvious compromises with lineups due to his size and more important problems with role clarity. RJ is not just a lesser PG he’s not a PG at all. If I knew he wouldn’t play PG at all and we’d see real offense rather than rehash failed hero ball from the last few seasons I would feel differently.
 
Okonkwo looks to be leaving Carolina and entering the portal after only one year according to TOS. Although he wasn’t expected to play much, that puts additional emphasis on bigs and depth pieces at center.
Not much impact at all. Go where he could play, no brainer. they are bringing in bigs.
 
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Frankly getting a little nauseated by all of this "ooooh I'm not getting as much playing time as I want so I'll transfer... again, and again."

WTF happened to working for your spot and fighting for your place?

This system is catering to kids who think they're NBA material if only they get on the right team when in all honesty all their transfers are doing is delaying their careers at Subway. No one one humble enough to be a role player anymore.
 
The portal is both a disgusting sign that entitlement is how we now raise kids AND almost as exciting as your parents taking you to the candy store!

Just like when we find ourselves slowing down as we pass a car wreck; I am disappointed in myself because I can't help but be excited to think about adding 2 of:

Renaud, Ballo, Bradshaw, Tyson, Kalkbrenner, Goldin, etc!
 
I was worried that Ballo might be slow, but he played for Arizona which Pomeroy rates at #16 on tempo. And he looks quick enough in this video.

He looks formidable. Unfazed by contact. Pretty quick off the floor.

Terrible FT shooter.

 
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The portal is both a disgusting sign that entitlement is how we now raise kids AND almost as exciting as your parents taking you to the candy store!

Just like when we find ourselves slowing down as we pass a car wreck; I am disappointed in myself because I can't help but be excited to think about adding 2 of:

Renaud, Ballo, Bradshaw, Tyson, Kalkbrenner, Goldin, etc!
man i’ve left the portal site up on my ipad for two years and when i try to explain it to friends and family they think it’s some adult site haha
 
Frankly getting a little nauseated by all of this "ooooh I'm not getting as much playing time as I want so I'll transfer... again, and again."

WTF happened to working for your spot and fighting for your place?

This system is catering to kids who think they're NBA material if only they get on the right team when in all honesty all their transfers are doing is delaying their careers at Subway. No one one humble enough to be a role player anymore.
I get your point, but the portal also caters to kids who are languishing on the bench, can see the handwriting on the wall, and just want to play ball somewhere.

I'm guessing that's a good chunk of the portal entries.

The portal is also great for kids who can't get into a top school. In their shoes, would you rather go to a junior college or a mid-major? The portal lets kids use mid-majors as a stepping stone. Moreover, if you're a coach looking at a transfer, you're probably happier to see what the kid did against D1 teams.

Not so good for mid-majors, maybe, since they're the ones being used as stepping stones. And not so good for CCs either, I guess, but who cares?.

Personally, I'm liking the portal. It changes things, but not necessarily in a bad way. Given the portal and NIL, pretty much all my "freedom" and "free market" objections to college basketball have gone away. Nobody is trapped. Exploitation is much reduced.
 
off season wants....Cadeau being a decent shooter and not a leaky shooter. A True Center like Bacot. would like Jwash to concentrate on being a PF that pull gets good looks from 3. A shooting SF from the portal.

1 cadeau
2 Capt Jack
3 SF from the portal (Tyson?) Jhigh
4 Jwash
C from the portal

I know that lineup probably wont scare anyone. But thats about the best options. Maybe JHigh in the PF spot and if we dont get a SF move him there if he can be a shooter. Withers just isnt starter material for me. I like him giving a burst off the bench. Drake powell just aint ready yet to be a starter at the 3. His shot needs some work. Slow release that works in high school cuz he can jump over every one he played against. wont have that luxury in ACC. Love his motor though and if we dont have an SF then I wouldnt hate him playing a leaky like role for defense and rebounding.
 
I get your point, but the portal also caters to kids who are languishing on the bench, can see the handwriting on the wall, and just want to play ball somewhere.

I'm guessing that's a good chunk of the portal entries.

The portal is also great for kids who can't get into a top school. In their shoes, would you rather go to a junior college or a mid-major? The portal lets kids use mid-majors as a stepping stone. Moreover, if you're a coach looking at a transfer, you're probably happier to see what the kid did against D1 teams.

Not so good for mid-majors, maybe, since they're the ones being used as stepping stones. And not so good for CCs either, I guess, but who cares?.

Personally, I'm liking the portal. It changes things, but not necessarily in a bad way. Given the portal and NIL, pretty much all my "freedom" and "free market" objections to college basketball have gone away. Nobody is trapped. Exploitation is much reduced.
And many coaches, administrators, professors, etc. have used mid majors as a stepping stone all along. A lot of people like to have personal freedom to choose and move to preferred situations, but somehow get upset when others get that same ability to choose.
 
off season wants....Cadeau being a decent shooter and not a leaky shooter. A True Center like Bacot. would like Jwash to concentrate on being a PF that pull gets good looks from 3. A shooting SF from the portal.

1 cadeau
2 Capt Jack
3 SF from the portal (Tyson?) Jhigh
4 Jwash
C from the portal

I know that lineup probably wont scare anyone. But thats about the best options. Maybe JHigh in the PF spot and if we dont get a SF move him there if he can be a shooter. Withers just isnt starter material for me. I like him giving a burst off the bench. Drake powell just aint ready yet to be a starter at the 3. His shot needs some work. Slow release that works in high school cuz he can jump over every one he played against. wont have that luxury in ACC. Love his motor though and if we dont have an SF then I wouldnt hate him playing a leaky like role for defense and rebounding.
Based off this past season that looks like 50 -60 points for unc ppg .. Hopefully they improve in off season & add 2 great scorers to punch that up to 80 + ppg
 
off season wants....Cadeau being a decent shooter and not a leaky shooter. A True Center like Bacot. would like Jwash to concentrate on being a PF that pull gets good looks from 3. A shooting SF from the portal.

1 cadeau
2 Capt Jack
3 SF from the portal (Tyson?) Jhigh
4 Jwash
C from the portal

I know that lineup probably wont scare anyone. But thats about the best options. Maybe JHigh in the PF spot and if we dont get a SF move him there if he can be a shooter. Withers just isnt starter material for me. I like him giving a burst off the bench. Drake powell just aint ready yet to be a starter at the 3. His shot needs some work. Slow release that works in high school cuz he can jump over every one he played against. wont have that luxury in ACC. Love his motor though and if we dont have an SF then I wouldnt hate him playing a leaky like role for defense and rebounding.
Are you talking about Zayden High, or am I missing something? I don't see him playing SF.

I could see Withers playing SF, if needed. He has the quickness to defend there, is a decent passer, and if his 3-pt shooting returns after a summer working on it, he could be formidable.

Of course I'd feel best if Ingram returns and we get big help up front., so that Ingram can spend more minutes at SF, where he belongs.
 
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Cadeau - Trimble
RJ - Ian
Tyson - Drake
Washington - Withers
Ballo - High - Brown

Where Tyson and Ballo are placeholders for somebody good from the portal. If we don't get Tyson, I'd be inclined to give Withers that time and go for a PF, instead.

If Cadeau becomes what we expected in his sophomore season, that could be a fine team.

Yes, I'm expecting Harrison to leave - but hope he won't.

We have 2 hotshot frosh. Odds are at least 1 of them needs a year. With this lineup, they can get as much PT as they can handle, without having to be stars.
 
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I don't think a 3 from the portal is a need, maybe if a big time 3 were there and interested in us but my thought is to have Ian and Drake battle it out for minutes at the 3, no matter what RJ does. If RJ leaves I would rather we portal in a jump shooting 2 that has better size than RJ, one of those combo guys that can give you some time at the point when you need it. I am concerned with Seth's ball handles.

I do think we lose Ingram in the end, heard something today that doesn't seem to help with RJ coming back, don't really want to talk about that till I get more info. If that happens, I think I am fine with Jalen and Withers covering the 4, maybe with some solid development, especially physically High could help there as well. I am not expecting much from Brown as a frosh, so I think we have to get a center, I personally like the Golden guy more than the rest so far. Ballou is interesting but the kid can't shoot free throws, means it is hard to have him in there in a tight game and he doesn't do much to free up the lane.
 
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I thought I would hate the portal, and I do from the standpoint of what it promotes. Like @Geth said, I don’t like the culture it has created.

With that said, I’m enjoying the “hot stove” of college basketball. It’s less college and more basketball and I’ve come to grips with that. I no longer really care about the players like I used to. I used to love to get recruits and watch them grow and develop as people and players over the course of their college basketball careers. That’s gone. I view them as hired mercenaries to help me enjoy my team winning; the same way I view the professional sports leagues I used to follow. It’s pure entertainment to me now and I’ve become hardened and indifferent to the players and their stories themselves.

Don’t @ me. I didn’t create this.
 
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