People who haven’t taken a second mortgage out on their house to give to UNC for NIL aren’t doing enough. Don’t expect others to pony up all that money. You do it if it’s so important to you.
It’s clearly not my money and I’ve said that before. They can do as they see fit, but we need to learn to live with sub par classes if the program isn’t going to ramp up NIL efforts. We’re just trying to discuss the reality of today’s culture and unfortunately this is reality. You might want to seriously consider unfollowing college basketball if this climate offends you.
I bought a couple NIL boxes. That should get me a Paxton Wojick for a few games...🤪
Good points. And I think you’re on to something here… I don’t believe in big money for freshmen but I’d be more comfortable with UNC forking out for established players, either as returning or transferring in.
Hey 57 I like it, and what would be wrong with contracts with conditions. Heck yeah we’ll give you 5 mil but you’d better deliver such and such. If it’s all about winning and paying them to do it, then schools should hold kids accountable too. Or just make it flat out performance based.
I think it's really hard to compare apples to apples with this.
This sounds great on a motivational pamphlet and is probably true to a degree. But you need a baseline of talent if you want to accomplish something in major competitive sports. Also, getting a bunch of 5* recruits isn't "flash" whenever it happens. I would rather get class after class of 5* recruits and take my chances that their talent will result in substance. Sometimes it flops but I'm guessing if UNC ever got a recruiting class of all 3* players, it wouldn't look too good either.
You mean like Rob Dillingham, Reed Sheppard, and Aaron Bradshaw were doing for Kentucky a few months ago?
I hope I'm wrong, but he sure seems like an Indiana boy to me.
I hate to be so pessimistic but this one seems like a bronze medal. Hope I'm wrong!
You make some good points. So why do I feel like I wrote and essay on "the sky is blue" and you responded "you're wrong, the grass is green"?
He'll decide between IU (heavy favorite) and UConn. UNC will be a hat on the table.
1 crystal ball so far (from a Maryland site contributor.)
Done deal. The bigger NIL deal wins.
True. The point was not about not bidding, but rather not breaking the bank for a dybanista-type player who’d only be on campus for a year…. All the listed players were multi-year players due to their lack of immediate NBA appeal.
Some of those players absolutely could have been one-and-done. I distinctly remember Hansbrough being projected in the late lottery after his freshman year.
Very true. And thank heavens they weren’t.
The dook 2015 squad led by Okafor, Jones, Winslow...
But it's about making millions to those that reap the benefits and it has been for quite a long while. If the cash is flowing in from the product the bottom line is what matters to the buisness. Chips are nice, don't get it twisted though, it's been a billion dollar industry, and that bottom line rules for them.
The incredible growth of the NBA popularity globally has been a cash boon, the workers/talent get 48%. Price of poker has went up. Ante up or play the smaller tables.
Yep, after I posted I looked it up and saw Tyus Jones was MOP in 2015.
I think that is a naive take. Huge talent has been a foundation. The way they have treated it is admirable, I love it, but without the talent it is not the same. UNC came to prominence under McGuire and the NYC pipeline, which was not slightly hidden that you are playing for "Uncle Frank" after the backroom conversation. We have had rosters of 5 stars when they were not free to leave. We chose more than recruited. The Carolina Way was how they were treated, but it started with the elite talent.
Business for unc? Them, unc? Those that reap the benefits? Unc? I think it can be all of those if that’s who you meant, and still incorporate some tip for tap. Maybe I just misunderstood
With a couple of exceptions those are the guys I was talking about when I said Roy got some top players who needed to develop. They were NBA-bound, but not NBA-ready yet, and knew it. They chose to develop under Roy instead of being fast-tracked - don't let the door hit ya style - by Cal or K.
My post was not directed at you, but more to people like Dave who whine constantly that “we’re” not ponying up enough NIL money to buy 5* players. I understand the “reality” of college sports today, I just don’t have to like it. And I’ve pretty much unfollowed all college sports. Haven’t watched a single UNC basketball or football game in the last two years. In the past I hardly missed one. I used to post very regularly but don’t anymore, just occasionally when some jerk like Dave strikes a nerve. I assure you one thing, no more sweating which recruits we do/don’t sign or game results(even d00k) for this UNC fan of over 60 years. It was a helluva ride while it lasted.
Sure enough Arch? No basketball game of UNCs for last two years? Man I’m starting to understand though. I definitely don’t sweat the recruiting anymore. Bigger fish to fry and things I can make a difference in. Not quite to the not watching stage in basketball but I don’t watch football anymore. And that’s saying a lot living in Alabama amongst all the roll tide and war eagle going on.
Not one thing in my post even hinted that we don't want talented players! That would be patently ridiculous to believe we can compete without talent. The Carolina Way is a direct response to the Uncle Frank Days when there were things that didn't live up to our current ethos! We want the most talented players in the land BUT we should never have to compromise our ethical standards to get them! To be clear: I want every 5* player that fits a position of need to suit up for UNC......IF they fit the threshold of character, work ethic; and team first attitude. I also want us to have players who are willing to develop their talents while at UNC and help provide continuity and leadership!
Do you think all the recruits Hubert has vetted, offered, and spent months/years recruiting don't fit your "ethical standard" simply because they keep picking other schools?
