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Berry Breaks Hand - Out for 4 Weeks

Another side-affect of this is that with the 2-Guard rotation thinned for a couple of weeks (by Jalek and 7th having to spend time at the 1) Platek will likely get a few more minutes in the rotation. That is a very good thing for both him and us.

Gary, let me throw something at ya. Do you see a Theo playing some 1 during Joel's shutdown? That play were he dribbled the full length of the court and dished to Bird for the winner against Kentucky comes to mind. On the surface, it's scares the heck out of me thinking of Seventh bringing the ball up the court at the beginnning of the Stanford game. You can say I'm greedy, but the Heels need to step up and avoid losing these early season games against lower ranked teams.
 
Gary, let me throw something at ya. Do you see a Theo playing some 1 during Joel's shutdown? That play were he dribbled the full length of the court and dished to Bird for the winner against Kentucky comes to mind. On the surface, it's scares the heck out of me thinking of Seventh bringing the ball up the court at the beginnning of the Stanford game. You can say I'm greedy, but the Heels need to step up and avoid losing these early season games against lower ranked teams.
Doubtful.
Now, if the injury was more lengthy or came at a crucial time? Then maybe --- he did it before with Ginyard if you recall. However the fact we have Jalek likely keeps Theo in his traditional role(s).
 
See above. IMO absolutely. He's definitely ready, just a matter of a crowded backcourt ahead of him. This could be a nice opportunity to show out.

Yeah, I don't think it is as much ready as it is the talent ahead of him on the depth chart. The 3 guys I really think this effects is BRob, 7th, and Jalek. It may give Theo some time at the 2 with Cam in but I don't really want to see much of that. I really want 7th and BRob to get some good time so they can show what I have heard is good things from this summer.
 
I liked the "headline" breaks hand....a bone in the hand is quite different. JBII will be back in four weeks. We will survive until December.
 
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Never forget when Roy said after Kendall Marshall went down that he would never get caught again without having several point guards on the team. Good thing the Heels have Jalek and Seventh on board.
 
Felton hurt his wrist in 05

Huh? I don't remember that. He didn't miss any time because of it. The only game he missed was the opener against Santa Clara and that was because he played in an unsanctioned game the previous summer.
 
4 weeks from today is the Stanford game. If he is back by then there is very little chance this will cost us even a single loss (we should be pretty heavily favored over No. Iowa and Bucknell at home). If he misses Stanford, the PKI is later that week and it would be great to have him back for those games.

How does this affect small ball? I suspect most of us picture small ball with Joel in there for shooting and leadership.

Do we try less small ball until Berry gets back?
I don't see why. Jalek is probably starting in place of Joel. You also have Theo, Luke, and Cam pretty locked in to start. But when Luke comes out, you are either going with two freshman (Brooks and Huffman at the same time) or you have to put in someone like Kenny/BRob. That means the team gets even younger when going big.

For that reason I'd expect to see more small ball, not less. You want three freshman in the game at the same time (Felton, Brooks, Huffman)? The best players should play, and we need some more veteran guys out there.

In addition, at least for the first few games I don't think we'll face a team with legitimate bigs. Last year Northern Iowa had a 6'5" guy (Jeremy Morgan) as their tallest player on the court for much of the game.
 
Never forget when Roy said after Kendall Marshall went down that he would never get caught again without having several point guards on the team. Good thing the Heels have Jalek and Seventh on board.
Yep. Pretty much any PG who can shoot a lick can play the 2. The opposite direction is far rarer.
 
Anyone seen news on when/how Joel broke it? Was it in practice?
Haven't heard anything yet.

With breaks like that it could've been immediate (which would probably mean practice) or something that he didn't even know was broken til it swole up later (so he could've banged something in Memphis).
 
4 weeks from today is the Stanford game. If he is back by then there is very little chance this will cost us even a single loss (we should be pretty heavily favored over No. Iowa and Bucknell at home). If he misses Stanford, the PKI is later that week and it would be great to have him back for those games.


I don't see why. Jalek is probably starting in place of Joel. You also have Theo, Luke, and Cam pretty locked in to start. But when Luke comes out, you are either going with two freshman (Brooks and Huffman at the same time) or you have to put in someone like Kenny/BRob. That means the team gets even younger when going big.

For that reason I'd expect to see more small ball, not less. You want three freshman in the game at the same time (Felton, Brooks, Huffman)? The best players should play, and we need some more veteran guys out there.

In addition, at least for the first few games I don't think we'll face a team with legitimate bigs. Last year Northern Iowa had a 6'5" guy (Jeremy Morgan) as their tallest player on the court for much of the game.
Well... I don't believe Cam is exactly "locked in" as a starter. KW is/was every bit as likely, in fact I did hear he started over in Memphis (not that that's locked in either), but with JB's shooting out Roy may look Cam's way, which would have Theo at the 2. Hard to say.
 
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Love Roy but Cam is twice the player Kenny Williams is. Regardless of who starts, there’s no question who’s better.
And even if Kenny starts over Cam it doesn't change my point. When Luke needs a breather, are you putting in Cam or Huffman to go along with Brooks? I don't think it's close. We will probably be going small quite frequently to get the best players on the floor.
 
And even if Kenny starts over Cam it doesn't change my point. When Luke needs a breather, are you putting in Cam or Huffman to go along with Brooks? I don't think it's close. We will probably be going small quite frequently to get the best players on the floor.
Yes, Cam's gonna get "starter's minutes" whatever his role turns out to be, and I think you are correct that we'll quite often see only one frosh Big at a time. Roy brought Cam in to be a Hybrid and he'll play a lot of 3 and see some time at the 4 in "small lineups".
 
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Huh? I don't remember that. He didn't miss any time because of it. The only game he missed was the opener against Santa Clara and that was because he played in an unsanctioned game the previous summer.

He injured his wrist but played in the Maui tourney with it wrapped...Also a #32 for that season missed 4 games doing the regular season, towards the end.
 
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With this particular team, what Cam brings is much more needed than what Kenny brings. We don't need a defensive specialist on the perimeter as much as we need offensive firepower. Again, the perimeter will need to offset the post play deficiencies and Cam can provide those points better than Kenny.
 
With this particular team, what Cam brings is much more needed than what Kenny brings. We don't need a defensive specialist on the perimeter as much as we need offensive firepower. Again, the perimeter will need to offset the post play deficiencies and Cam can provide those points better than Kenny.
It's not like it's an either-or thing other than starting. They mostly play different positions and will often in fact play together. If Roy just wanted to start our 5 most accomplished players it would be JB/KW/TP/CJ/LM (with Jalek subbing in for JB for a while). However, roles and knowledge/feel for the system are important as well, and we need a traditional Big out there most of the time.

Also, don't underestimate Theo. I'll go on record predicting his scoring output and shooting prowess will make a big leap this season. Having a bomber like Cam coming off the bench could be be a big booster and that may well be his best role for this season's edition.
 
I just stopped and looked at rupp rafters. You would not beleive the vile they have for anyone at unc. It goes beyond sports to wish harm on anyone because they play for someone other than your team. I have been acceptable and courteous to visiting rr people but that is out the window now for me
 
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And Rupp Rafters is disgusting. Openly wishing harm on opposing players and wishing injury. The only thing worse would be wishing death but give it a day, that’ll come too. Looking forward to the day that Cal goes down again and takes Kentucky with him.
 
Terrible news. And while it will afford more PT for some in his absence, I worry about how it affect Joel's shooting when he does return and guys then having to adjust to different roles. I also worry about some of the ABC players from a couple of our biggest rivals intentionally bangin' on that hand.

An injury to our most indispensable player is not good under any circumstances. Thank goodness it happened very early?
 
I just stopped and looked at rupp rafters. You would not beleive the vile they have for anyone at unc. It goes beyond sports to wish harm on anyone because they play for someone other than your team. I have been acceptable and courteous to visiting rr people but that is out the window now for me
Are those jackasses banging on JB? Wouldn't put it past them.
 
Everybody at DI being classy about Joel's injury except topps coach. Go figure.
I mean, being "classy" about something like that shouldn't even be an accomplishment. I've made it a personal policy not to visit our rivals' boards, partially because I don't want to be even tempted to post in those cesspools, and trolling is generally lame.

That being said, it IS fun to hear when some of y'all relay what they are bitching about when things go wrong for them --- y'know, like UNC winning a Natty or being cleared by the NCAA :cool:.
 
And Rupp Rafters is disgusting. Openly wishing harm on opposing players and wishing injury. The only thing worse would be wishing death but give it a day, that’ll come too. Looking forward to the day that Cal goes down again and takes Kentucky with him.
It doesn’t stop at UNC players either, they’ve clearly demonstrated its largely anyone that is a threat to UK, including refs.

I’ve gotten flack at DI for my praise for the player that Berry has been since his freshman year- hopefully he has a speedy recovery.
 
Kentucky has a lot to worry about this season. They will be lucky to make the Sweet 16.
 
............. I've made it a personal policy not to visit our rivals' boards, partially because I don't want to be even tempted to post in those cesspools......
Agree 100%
No interest in reading their crap.
 
The only thing worse would be wishing death but give it a day, that’ll come too.
They've already done that before. They said after we beat them that they hope our team plane crashes. They've also wished harm on the friends and family of the players.
 
Dang, I hate this for JB, but Roy and the Heels will step up and take up the slack!

Thank goodness Roy believes in a long bench. We will survive and come out stronger!
 


JJ's got it right.Carolina Family on display, oh how I love the class of 2014.
Praying for you everyday, for a speedy recovery Joel, can't wait to see you back on the court in our favorite Carolina Blue leading our guys once again!!! You're a true warrior both on and off the court, this will only make you and the team stronger!!

It's time for everyone else to step up, JB did it for us last year on two bum ankles!!
Dig those Heels in, let's get after it and win some games for Joel!!
Go Heels!!
 
Expect no easy wins without Berry. We looked downright awful last year without him. And I don't think we have beat a team from the state of iowa in like 4 years.
 
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