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There is now no reason for every man, woman and child not to take the vaccine. You Trumptards are out of excuses for being scared of a shot.

Because now if there is a very rare breakthrough case after vaccination, there is medicine to treat the Covid.
 
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There is now no reason for every man, woman and child not to take the vaccine. You Trumptards are out of excuses for being scared of a shot.

Because now if there is a very rare breakthrough case after vaccination, there is medicine to treat the Covid.
It’s cause Vaccines don’t work. Nothing works. It’s all a fake plandemic with the scientists and big pharma and media helping to defeat trump. They just scaring you by counting traffic accidents as covid deaths. You got a better chance dying from an asteroid strike than catching covid. It’s just the flu.
 
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It’s cause Vaccines don’t work. Nothing works. It’s all a fake plandemic with the scientists and big pharma and media helping to defeat trump. They just scaring you by counting traffic accidents as covid deaths. You got a better chance dying from an asteroid strike than catching covid. It’s just the flu.
don't discount that asteroid. It's coming.
 

There is now no reason for every man, woman and child not to take the vaccine. You Trumptards are out of excuses for being scared of a shot.

Because now if there is a very rare breakthrough case after vaccination, there is medicine to treat the Covid.

And NYC is giving $100 bills to kids 5-11 years old. Lol, when you have to bribe someone to take a vaccine, I would think that's not a vaccine I want to take.
 
And NYC is giving $100 bills to kids 5-11 years old. Lol, when you have to bribe someone to take a vaccine, I would think that's not a vaccine I want to take.

unfortunately with so much disinformation out there, all of which is courtesy of the Trumptards, unorthodox tools must be used to protect all of us.
 
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It’s cause Vaccines don’t work. Nothing works. It’s all a fake plandemic with the scientists and big pharma and media helping to defeat trump. They just scaring you by counting traffic accidents as covid deaths. You got a better chance dying from an asteroid strike than catching covid. It’s just the flu.

another science denier. It’s sad what Trump did to our country.
 
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what a bozo! the invention of an anti-viral pill is going to make the anti-vaxx folks LESS LIKELY to get vaxxd. not the other way around.

also, if you think most of us aren’t getting vaxxd out of fear of a shot, you’re a bigger bozo than i thought.
 
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what a bozo! the invention of an anti-viral pill is going to make the anti-vaxx folks LESS LIKELY to get vaxxd. not the other way around.

also, if you think most of us aren’t getting vaxxd out of fear of a shot, you’re a bigger bozo than i thought.

no, I also think you are selfish and don’t care about the health of others
 
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My wife manages a team that helped to develop this Pfizer anti-viral pill (Pfizer is one of their clients) what a huge success, they’re having a great day!! also, cha-ching!!

and no, she will still not take the vaxx …and she has antibodies from a prior infection. when you’ve seen how the sausage is made ….
 
why? because you believe the media lie that the vaxx curbs transmission?? even the CDC has stopped saying that. but hey, keep on sheepin!

the vaccine stops transmission in all but very rare cases and your wife should tell you that. People like you are the reason we need mandates because you are not smart enough to know what is best for you and our entire community.
 
the vaccine stops transmission in all but very rare cases and your wife should tell you that. People like you are the reason we need mandates because you are not smart enough to know what is best for you and our entire community.
so you’re smarter than the CDC now?? ok.
 

There is now no reason for every man, woman and child not to take the vaccine. You Trumptards are out of excuses for being scared of a shot.

Because now if there is a very rare breakthrough case after vaccination, there is medicine to treat the Covid.
This is great news! I own some Pfizer stock.
 
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In October, 25 out of every 100,000 residents of heavily Trump counties died from Covid, more than three times higher than the rate in heavily Biden counties (7.8 per 100,000). October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened. - vaccines working, ignorance failing.​
 
In October, 25 out of every 100,000 residents of heavily Trump counties died from Covid, more than three times higher than the rate in heavily Biden counties (7.8 per 100,000). October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened. - vaccines working, ignorance failing.​

Going copy and paste versus a link is always suspicious.
 
In October, 25 out of every 100,000 residents of heavily Trump counties died from Covid, more than three times higher than the rate in heavily Biden counties (7.8 per 100,000). October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened. - vaccines working, ignorance failing.​
Is there a problem here? The more dead Trumptards, the better
 
In October, 25 out of every 100,000 residents of heavily Trump counties died from Covid, more than three times higher than the rate in heavily Biden counties (7.8 per 100,000). October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened. - vaccines working, ignorance failing.​
I'm not going to get into another tit for tat back and forth about the politics of this since I have access to the the msm and dnc talking points - I know your responses in advance. What I honestly want to know, and it strikes me every time someone posts or says one of these type things about recent statistics involving trump counties versus biden counties, are two separate points about the basis for these stats.

First, there is always a built in assumption that the fatalities are amongst the dumb ass, uneducated trumpers. However, when a county is referred to as a trump county, it only means that they voted for trump. This can be 51 to 49. So, does the bald statement and implications of "trump counties" being the deathbeds of covid ever have a breakdown as to actual voting? No, not that I've been shown. So, of your 25 deaths, 13 could have been biden voters and 12 could have been trump voters even though it's a "trump county", which renders the stat meaningless. Until that information is supplied, it is worthless.

Second, and more important to my consideration, those types of statements always seem to apply to current trends with the political goal of upping the vax stats, but those pesky orangeman supporters refuse and are dying. Has anyone ever put out a such a statistic as to all covid deaths?

I am a firm believer that almost every county, regardless of how they vote, will eventually have a run of covid, be it the original or a variant. If a county is more urban, they are much more likely to have had an early run (and, shockers, they are also much more likely to be biden voters). Unless you fully account for previous infections (which they can't since there is no testing being done for antibodies, particularly asymptomatic or mild cases) and deaths, taking into account natural immunity versus the shot, this type of statistic is again meaningless. There are very few deaths taking place amongst those that have had the vax, had a previous case, and/or get early advanced treatment. The medically resistive to treatment, of all healthcare, are a real problem at this point.

Where is the stat or chart showing the trump counties versus the biden counties compared to overall deaths since the beginning, not just a stat of who are the ones left to contract a case? Or does that not serve the playbook of relentlessly complaining about trump (the irony being that he pushed out the vax and took it himself)?
 
I'm not going to get into another tit for tat back and forth about the politics of this since I have access to the the msm and dnc talking points - I know your responses in advance. What I honestly want to know, and it strikes me every time someone posts or says one of these type things about recent statistics involving trump counties versus biden counties, are two separate points about the basis for these stats.

First, there is always a built in assumption that the fatalities are amongst the dumb ass, uneducated trumpers. However, when a county is referred to as a trump county, it only means that they voted for trump. This can be 51 to 49. So, does the bald statement and implications of "trump counties" being the deathbeds of covid ever have a breakdown as to actual voting? No, not that I've been shown. So, of your 25 deaths, 13 could have been biden voters and 12 could have been trump voters even though it's a "trump county", which renders the stat meaningless. Until that information is supplied, it is worthless.

Second, and more important to my consideration, those types of statements always seem to apply to current trends with the political goal of upping the vax stats, but those pesky orangeman supporters refuse and are dying. Has anyone ever put out a such a statistic as to all covid deaths?

I am a firm believer that almost every county, regardless of how they vote, will eventually have a run of covid, be it the original or a variant. If a county is more urban, they are much more likely to have had an early run (and, shockers, they are also much more likely to be biden voters). Unless you fully account for previous infections (which they can't since there is no testing being done for antibodies, particularly asymptomatic or mild cases) and deaths, taking into account natural immunity versus the shot, this type of statistic is again meaningless. There are very few deaths taking place amongst those that have had the vax, had a previous case, and/or get early advanced treatment. The medically resistive to treatment, of all healthcare, are a real problem at this point.

Where is the stat or chart showing the trump counties versus the biden counties compared to overall deaths since the beginning, not just a stat of who are the ones left to contract a case? Or does that not serve the playbook of relentlessly complaining about trump (the irony being that he pushed out the vax and took it himself)?
Regarding "since the beginning" In 2020 the rate of deaths were even, but things have been different since the vaccine came out. They discuss this in the article above.
 
Regarding "since the beginning" In 2020 the rate of deaths were even, but things have been different since the vaccine came out. They discuss this in the article above.
Thanks for the link. And, with the usual upfront caveats due to it being the NYTimes and their normal agenda/leanings, there are some interesting points. It does not answer my bigger question of comparing totals overall, only snapshots at any given time.

But with regard to the recent trends, it says "Covid deaths have been concentrated in counties outside of major metropolitan areas. Many of these are in red states, while others are in red parts of blue or purple states," which is supportive of my point about covid hitting where cases haven't before. It is a virus of opportunity. And the statistical status of who is getting vaxed AND its impact may well change per the author, "I do think it’s possible that the partisan gap in Covid deaths reached its peak last month. . . . red America has probably built up more natural immunity to Covid — from prior infections — than blue America, because the hostility to vaccination and social distancing has caused the virus to spread more widely. A buildup in natural immunity may be one reason that the partisan gap in new Covid cases has shrunk recently."

Kudos to him for at least trying to account for natural immunity.
 
please respond to the CDC article - don’t worry about what i’m saying.
@bleeduncblue - notunc71-00 is not what he seems. Here to troll / parody the dumbest among us (prlyles, blazers, etc).

The fact that they don't realize this, they don't realize how hard they are being mocked and ridiculed for their deranged / out there ideas and comments - that they think notunc71-00 is "enlightened / woke like them".... is the funniest part of all
 
oops, forgot how much fact-checking folks around here might do rather than just believe everything they see on ootb. It's from this article:

For us to debate this, I’d have to first believe the COVId death numbers that have been reported, which of course, I don’t. Nor does anyone else that’s been paying attention. So you can take your NYT article to the fiction section and have those discussions with other fantasy genre enthusiasts.
 
oops, forgot how much fact-checking folks around here might do rather than just believe everything they see on ootb. It's from this article:
thanks for this. I think you would otherwise have us think that almost all the deaths are of Trump supporting non-vaxers. This only indicates that deaths are greater in number in Trump-supporting counties. For all we know, the dead could still be Biden supporters, and if not, they could still have caught the Covid from a vaxed Biden supporter, and if not...who gives a shit?.
 
@bleeduncblue - notunc71-00 is not what he seems. Here to troll / parody the dumbest among us (prlyles, blazers, etc).

The fact that they don't realize this, they don't realize how hard they are being mocked and ridiculed for their deranged / out there ideas and comments - that they think notunc71-00 is "enlightened / woke like them".... is the funniest part of all
thank you for the clarification!
 
and no less a man than Howard Stern agrees with me. One of the most brilliant media people of all times is saying what I said- it’s nice to be in good company.

I heard someone say that there has never been a more glaring, embarrassing, humiliating, sad yet funny of a complete swing from "based" to "cuck" as you do with the steep decline / change in Howard Stern. Shameless.

(OK - it me - I said / think this).
 
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