Disingenuous to say "dangerous".
The side-effects listed in the study are:
fever, fatigue, myalgia, arthralgia and lymphadenopathy.
These are the exact same things for anyone getting the vaccines regardless of prior infection or not.
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The side-effects listed in the study are:
fever, fatigue, myalgia, arthralgia and lymphadenopathy.
These are the exact same things for anyone getting the vaccines regardless of prior infection or not.
Excellent article. This part especially stood out.
“Community immunity to control the SARS-CoV-2 epidemic can be reached with the acquired immunity due to either previous infection or vaccination. Acquired immunity from vaccination is certainly much safer and preferred.”
Good question. No one signs the article that I could find. The writer for lancet refers to “we” a lot which I’m assuming means the staff at lancet.
Preferred by the writers vs intentionally infecting yourself to achieve natural immunity due to the fact that it’s the “safer”option.
But I don’t believe it’s meant to imply that “preferred” equals “the better” option as in vaccination is preferred over natural immunity.
That’s my take on it.
They might say safer because the vaccine is causing many headaches per day, but infections are killing over one thousand per day. 6 in one hand half a dozen in the other, rite?
Fauci: COVID-19 hospitalizations rising among vaccinated
COVID-19 hospitalizations are rising among people who are fully vaccinated, according to Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Disease.
Fauci has no damn clue what he's doing.Fauci: COVID-19 hospitalizations rising among vaccinated
COVID-19 hospitalizations are rising among people who are fully vaccinated, according to Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Disease.www.foxnews.com
Three guesses, and the first two don't count.
A: the Big Pharma / CDC / WHO / fed govt incestuous family
Regardless of the question, the answer is always: follow the $$$
I strongly recommend everyone get their Pfizer vaccine, followed by monthly boosters to be safe.
*My recommendation has nothing to do with my ownership in Pfizer stock
*My recommendation has nothing to do with my ownership in Pfizer stock
Several California children sick after clinic administers wrong COVID vaccine doses
14 children in California were administered the wrong coronavirus vaccine dosage.
this article /info pertains to people who've already been infected and have the antibodies ... they're not the ones dying, so getting the vaxx ON TOP OF natural immunity is what's dangerous. that's the point.
I guess i'll just repeat myself again:
--Disingenuous to say "dangerous".
The side-effects listed in the study are:
fever, fatigue, myalgia, arthralgia and lymphadenopathy.
These are the exact same things for anyone getting the vaccines regardless of prior infection or not.---
And add the final point from the article which is that it is better to achieve immunity via vaccine than natural infection since natural infection is more likely to make you severely sick or dead than the shot.
UH OH ... OMICRON IS HERE !!! why didnt President Papaw do more to keep it away ?? i thought the old man was going to "shut down covid" ??? remember when he made fun of Trump for putting travel bans in place ... didnt he call it xenophobic??
what goes around comes around.
what goes around comes around.
when I heard on news radio that this was the reason that the stock market was skidding, they turned around and informed that Biden was restricting travel from South Africa, the apparent hotbed for this new end of life on Earth as we know it. The first thought that came to mind is that I would brace for all the backlash over his racism and xenophobia.....HAHAHAHAHA. Not really. Joke. Get it? Two-faced Hypocrisy is funny, right? Because only those being funny are going to talk about this. The left and the leftist media damn sure won't.
because up the ASS is what we are getting from Biden?
yeah, Fauci has been giving it to our entire nation 'in the rear' for 18 months.
What a creepy, evil, little Napoleon-complex, monster this guy has turned out to be. He needs to be on TV like other people need air.
He said over the weekend "if you criticize me, you are criticizing science". Who elected him? (nobody) and made him God? (nobody).
And he is so thin-skinned especially when he is caught lying, and contributing to the cause of the COVID pandemic (Wuhan labs, funding gain of function research). I suppose I'd be defensive, too....that is a lot of blood on his hands.
I don't think anybody outside the current administration, CDC, and WHO listen to or respect him. He lost any credibility long ago, and most people just tune him out.
Wait for the backlash coming next time Brandon pushes some crazy lockdown, vaxxup, or maskup idiotic policy, based on Fraudci's "science".
They'll rightly get another hot steaming pile of GFY served to them. They've already had to basically neuter the vaxx mandates because they know darn well the mandates aren't constitutional at all. Purely illegal.
And no way could they enforce compliance - even trying at all to force compliance would devastate the economy and vital services (health care, police, fire, first responders, supply chain, travel logistics, etc.)
That's not changing. And millions in US (and 10's of millions worldwide) are DONE with coerced "compliance".
You love to see it.
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It's pretty interesting that Merck's covid pill(approved yesterday by the FDA) has been around for over 2 years.
Not exactly sure, I heard about it on the radio this morning. Just scanned an article or 2. Supposedly it's really cheap too.
(coming from my bride who's been in drug development etc for 20+ years) ... that "pill" has been around for a while. originally targeted at influenze and then other SARS. just recently licensed and tested for Covid. the risk / benefit is marginal and was only narrowly approved by the FDA at a vote of 13-10.
Merck invented Ivermectin. Cant wait to see how close its properties are to their new "pill" to treat Covid......
I recognize that many will not care for or trust this source, but they are quoting CDC numbers. I also acknowledge that it is a statistically a very small number to draw any bedrock conclusions. But, if the trend holds, this is going to get very interesting. The upshot is that the omicron numbers are coming back that the people being infected are 80% fully vaxxed.
thenationalpulse.com
A Pandemic of the Vaccinated. - The National Pulse
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) announced this weekend that 80 percent of COVID-19 “Omicron variant” cases are found in so-called “fully vaccinated” individuals. Forty-seven percent of Omicron cases – which are far milder than original COVID-19 cases – are found in those who received...
thenationalpulse.com
I recognize that many will not care for or trust this source, but they are quoting CDC numbers. I also acknowledge that it is a statistically a very small number to draw any bedrock conclusions. But, if the trend holds, this is going to get very interesting. The upshot is that the omicron numbers are coming back that the people being infected are 80% fully vaxxed.
A Pandemic of the Vaccinated. - The National Pulse
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) announced this weekend that 80 percent of COVID-19 “Omicron variant” cases are found in so-called “fully vaccinated” individuals. Forty-seven percent of Omicron cases – which are far milder than original COVID-19 cases – are found in those who received...
5 of the 14 boosted had their boost shot less than two weeks prior to testing positive. So 9 were "fully boosted", 9 were unvaxxed, and 25 were vaxxed but not fully boosted.
If these rates held across a larger sampling of people it would be an ad to get boosted since avoiding all vaccination risks getting covid generally in which you become a potential spreader of a serious disease and prolong the pandemic.
Again, all this is very preliminary so the real numbers could shift dramatically when a bigger sample exists, but I just have to say that I am not at all shocked that your response on this would be that the take away is to run, not walk, to immediately get the booster so you can get past your two week clock to be "fully boosted".
Conveniently, you completely ignore both the fact that these very initial numbers are not swamped by people who have received no vax at all (like prior infections/variants) and the fact that the CDC has absolutely no plans to investigate this potential link despite the majority of omicron infections having received a vax. Can't do anything that would undercut the mandate or demonstrate that the vax might not be the be all end all pontificated.
Edited to add: I am personally fully boosted, so I'm not coming at this from an anti angle.
Conveniently, you completely ignore both the fact that these very initial numbers are not swamped by people who have received no vax at all (like prior infections/variants) and the fact that the CDC has absolutely no plans to investigate this potential link despite the majority of omicron infections having received a vax. Can't do anything that would undercut the mandate or demonstrate that the vax might not be the be all end all pontificated.
Edited to add: I am personally fully boosted, so I'm not coming at this from an anti angle.
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Isn't the country as a whole only 65-70% vaxxed or so? That would mean that this is either too small a sample size to glean anything from, or that you actually have a better chance of contracting the omicron variant if you are vaxxed (which I have a tough time believing would be the case).
Dr. Fauci Admits That Covid Vaccines Could Truly Make Individuals ‘Worse’: “It Would Not Be The First Time”
Dr. Anthony Fauci sat down with “Meta” CEO Mark Zuckerberg and finally said out loud what many people have been warning for over a year about the rushed mRNA vaccines: They may actually make the Covid pandemic worse.Dr. Fauci was commenting on a rec
When are people going to stop listening to his ridiculousness. Dude is nothing more than an attention whore.
I don't doubt this part: "the Covid vaccines may actually make a recipient more likely to be reinfected than someone with natural immunity from a prior infection", which I guess the person who made the title of the article determined to mean they make a person "worse". But that would assume the person in question had already been infected.Dr. Fauci Admits That Covid Vaccines Could Truly Make Individuals ‘Worse’: “It Would Not Be The First Time”
Dr. Anthony Fauci sat down with “Meta” CEO Mark Zuckerberg and finally said out loud what many people have been warning for over a year about the rushed mRNA vaccines: They may actually make the Covid pandemic worse.Dr. Fauci was commenting on a recwww.journalposts.com
When are people going to stop listening to his ridiculousness. Dude is nothing more than an attention whore.
The article seems to be making the case that natural immunity is superior to vaccination, which I'd agree with. But vaccination seems better than nothing if one hasn't gotten infected yet. The mRNA vaccines are different mechanically than the RSV vaccine in the '60s that was referenced, which actually put a supposedly dormant strain of the virus into the patient. Definitely possible they could make the recipient worse off than no immunity, but I don't think we've seen the evidence of that yet.
But ya, Fauci is a blowhard that is enjoying his 15 minutes of fame, and trying to extend that as long as he can. Pretty ridiculous how some people have hung on his every word and treated it like Gospel. He's a clown.
My wife’s friend got it. Got vaxxed. Got it again. Now her kid has it. She’s missed like a month of work and will be out at least a couple more weeks. All cases asymptomatic
(I think she’s a ho fwiw)
(I think she’s a ho fwiw)
Not ignoring it. YES, it would be fascinating if somehow vaxxed/boosted people were more susceptible to catching omicron.
But we aren't seeing that.
- You made the point about sample size.
- Someone else made the point that 60% of the total US population is at two-shots. So the whole country could catch it and more vaxxed that unvaxxed would be counted.
- The report says most cases were mild. People not vaccinated are less likely to get tested for something they equate to the flu.
- Fourteen (33%) of the 43 positives had done international travel in the prior 14 days. And the people doing international travel are def going to be vaccinated.
Biggest thing IMHO is that severity of infection would be way more interesting that case counts.
the article indicates that it's possible that 'a' vaccine can reduce symptoms in the host while allowing replication and transmission. It doesn't indicate the same regarding naturally derived immunity. This renders suspect the theory that the unvaccinated are almost solely responsible for prolonging the pandemic.
Lucy got some 'splainin' to do.
There were studies showing the vaccines reduced viral load and viral load is correlated with transmission.
