The world was going to be hurt by the pandemic regardless, but not taking a pandemic seriously has made the problem worse and more painful than it should have been given the great resources and power of our nation. We had a half-assed, pathetic response. Were lucky it didn't start as "Delta".
Trump should never have politicized public health. Your point is akin to blaming Biden for lots of forest fires after the prior person stacked kindling in the corner of every woods. Or blaming a president for economic numbers & keys.
Who is responsible for so many people not getting their shot? This is the sole reason more people have died in 2021 than 2020.
You are correct with that limitation, but I think the point that most were making was not that covid itself would simply disappear, rather, it was the msm focus on covid and placing the responsibility on the oval office would go away. Indeed, that has happened as Joe is rarely held accountable for not stopping it and the msm (as well as posters here in lock step with that same bullet point messaging) now only want to "blame" the trump, evangelical voters for not getting vaxxed or refusing to wear masks.
worst...analogy...ever, especially the last part. When you are forced to shut down or at least cripple an economy with measures like paying people to not work, you can hardly blame the man at the top. But when you set out TO cripple the economy, the man at the top certainly deserves credit when that actually happens.
I think that is a simple question that has a very complex answer. But let's start with getting your answer as to why would you expect anyone on to take the "trump vaccine" that he rushed through to win the election? I mean, that's what our current leaders told us.
Drop the mic and thanks for proving my point. Do they have clinics for breaking the addiction? Not everything in our nation or in life has an orange tint.
Two points about this portion of the post. First, again, not to come off as insensitive, but if all those dying are the far right nuts supporting trump, doesn't that kind of support your agenda?
sorry but you didn't fix anything. The people responsible for not getting the shots might or might not be idiots, but the idiot I was referring to obviously was the one not recognizing the simple reality that if you don't get a shot, you are responsible for not doing so. Idiot.
I appreciate that you understand the limitations of statistics, in particular statistics in the hands of those who don't understand those limitations, as well as in the hands of those with an agenda.
And that's what I am asking I guess. I just don't trust that it's as simple as trump voters are the problem because that conveniently fits into the agenda way too easily. To put my question another way, did anyone ever do a graph or map of those places like NYC, NJ, Mass, etc. that got slammed early or mid with covid and compare that to who they voted for?
you haven't given up on his door-to-door campaign have you?
I don't really watch "news channels." I rarely, if ever, watch "the local news." But, I know that, here in the upstate, the local WYFF and other stations kick-off every broadcast with the newest Covid numbers (cases, hospitalizations and deaths) from NC, SC, and GA. I think the last time I saw it was back in August or September. But, it's incessant. I don't follow news sites or news networks. However, I'm sure if Covid-19 is still scaring people in some way, then those news channels are still profiting from that.
There's still plenty of coverage out there, but I think people are starting to not care as much about it. They are just over it. Plus, there have been plenty of new "hot stories" in the past few months that are getting people's attention.
This guy really doesn't want his 15 minutes (ok, ~2 years) of fame to end.
Dr. Fauci warns a new COVID variant could come soon
Dr. Fauci said variants could rise if you let coronavirus spread freely.www.deseret.com
Fauci: Hold my beer.
They've already named two variants that never became anything but that won't stop the media from proclaiming them as the cause for the upcoming zombie apocalypse.
In hindsight, that was incredibly naïve for people to think that the new Administration wouldn't keep dancing with the girl that brought them there. The messaging changed a little from it being the President's fault, to the former President's supporters faults, but that's on the same page of the playbook, so not a major change.
Not being forced but nobody said it wouldn’t cost your stupid ass.nO OnE iS FOrCiNg ThE vACciNe ON anYbODy!
Chicago police brass request vaccine updates from personnel, may deny benefits to officers choosing to retire
The Chicago Police Department’s top cop has threatened to deny retirement benefits to those who choose to retire from the job rather than comply with the city's COVID-19 vaccination policy, according to local reports.www.foxnews.com
Um, that is forced/coercion.
No it is not. It sets a horrible precedent for control. People push back because of all the BS surrounding this virus and the vaccine in general. You take a hard stance because you are old and threatened by the virus. Nothing is threatening your livelihood at the moment. But to threaten peoples retirement because a dim-witted POTUS demands enforcement is what is stupid. I would bet to very life to say you would be at the forefront of the opposition if Trump forced you to do anything at all, much less take a vax. I personally feel people need to take the shot. I strongly disagree we should force it on anyone. Government wants control of even the little things in your life. They are not to be trusted at all.
Like I said before, the government should not force people to get vaccinated but I have no problem with them having to pay a price for thieir actions. Do you have a problem with smokers having to pay higher insurance rates than non smokers?
You say no one is being forced...what do you consider to be "forcing"? Do you think strapping people down and forcibly sticking them with the needle is the only thing that can be considered force? Cuz I'd say that taking away their pensions, possibly their only income in retirement, is forcing them to do something.
Who do you propose should pay for treating these people?
Although irrelevant, I'll answer that I have no problem with smokers having to pay higher insurance rates than non-smokers. They are receiving a different, and more expensive, product than a non-smoker. What I wouldn't be in favor of, is telling a smoker who has paid into a life insurance policy for years that they now are no longer entitled to the death benefit, because I'm trying to make some moronic political statement against smoking.
