Think you bumped your head Nancy. People are free to choose. Some people know how to live without CNN telling them how to think
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Not everyone's decision is based on politics!
The FACT that they refuse to acknowledge the science of any type of natural immunity when telling me I must get a vaccine because of science. That tells me all I need to know about my decision not to get vaccinated at this time.
Also have you ever heard a commercial on TV about any kind of medicine and the give you a list of side effects? I have yet to hear one advertisement of the covid vaccine with any type of list of side effects!
I'm out do what you want with your life and I will do what I want with mine!
Why can't that be good enough?
Well the rates of vaxxed being based on voting shows the divide mirrors political lines, just like fox viewership.
The CDC has recognized natural immunity. They just mentioned it in their recommendation for how long to quarantine if you've already been sick. Something like if you were infected in the last 90 days don't quarantine cuz your infection gave you immunity.
This is F'ing hilarious. You are whining about lack of acknowledgement even though there is acknowledgement.
Curious, are you playing the same head-in-sand approach with numbers regarding climate change?
I think he needs to do a better job balancing and a better job of caveating since lots of his stuff (snippets) is just echo'd and amplified without the caveats - leading to misinfo being widespread.
If he is a big part of the misinfo problem in this country, then I have no problem with people attempting to correct. I don't know what the best correction is, but it's private industry and private people who have the freedom to take their money, profits, fame, etc and do whatever the want. God Bless America.
They do not acknowledge natural immunity when it come to not getting vaccinated, matter of fact Fauci has dodged the question over and over when it comes to getting vaccinated.
Of course it doesn't, but the numbers show MASSIVE correlation tween voter and vaxxed or not. But you can stick your head in the sand and pretend George Soros or Bill Gates are fudging the numbers for some nefarious reason.
Also, I hate to tell you, but people most likely swayed by conspiracy theory are repub voters.
Both wane. The easy answer is to just get vaxxed. Europe has done a better job recognizing protective benefits of being infected already - i agree with you there. One difficulty is that it is harder to enroll and study people who refuse vax - because they're often (but not always) anti-science.
Why can you or anyone not just be okay with my decision to not get vaccinated? If I have to get vaccinated for yours to work then yours ain't worth a shit!
Have you ever heard someone complain about people not getting their flu because it's effects someone else's?
You are so full of crap. The spew you poast is far worse than conspiracy. It's penned by people who are absolutely out to control the populace. Take note of this, noone on this board really likes you. You are so entrenched and dogmatic that you fail to see, Noone is listening. There is absolutely no conspiracy with you. It's called indoctrination. You drip with ultralib doctrine.
You find it impossible that people would dare buck a vaccine, or oppose a vax mandate. People have the right to choose. Unfortunately you chose the ultralib talking points to tell you what to think.
It's because you are a conspiracy theorist..
Just follow lib talking points and they will lead you to the utopia. Just a sip of the kool-aid and all will be better
My head is not in the sand. It's just not a priority. I have no control over how other people choose to freak-out over this. If something CAN be politicized, it WILL be politicized. There's a shit-ton of money to be made off of that. Not to mention the power of influence over masses of people that is at stake.
Which is a great segue for climate change. If the effects of human activity on this planet are going to ultimately eliminate us as a species, then that is already in the mail, waiting to be delivered. Climate Change- like abortion, gun control, the Bible/Religion, etc.- is a political football. Once it's politicized, it's over. Our fate is sealed because Americans are so fvcking tribal and hardheaded that it wouldn't matter what happened.
If a meteor the size of the moon, with a trajectory square into the Pacific Ocean, could be politicized, people would be arguing about how far into the stratosphere they were actually going to be launched when it hit.
I don't dislike blazers at all. He's not really "ultra-lib" to me. No one is a lib or a conservative. They're merely polarities. Blazers is only "ultra-lib" on here because this board has a gigantic list to starboard that we should be drowning.
His views are so skewed. He pounds with the same MO everyday. No matter the topic. It's really hard to be "liked" on this board being 1 dimensional. He fits that to a T. It' awkward when he tries to be funny. Mainly due to the stance he takes
Here what I think happens. There are people out there that feel like they stuck their necks out taking the vaccine, and when others don't feel the same way they get mad because others didn't take the same risk.
I can always take the vaccine later if I feel the rewards out way the risk but i cant unvaccinate if it goes sideways later. Truth is NO ONE knows what the vaccine will do to you in 5 or 10 years.
They have been trying to find a vaccine or a cure for stuff like AIDS for 40 years and not have one but they found a vaccine for this in 12 months? Na I will take my chances with Covid, where I know the chances of having it and being okay are nearly 100%.
So my choice to not take it at this time is calculated and has nothing to do with any kind of political stance.
I can always take the vaccine later if I feel the rewards out way the risk but i cant unvaccinate if it goes sideways later. Truth is NO ONE knows what the vaccine will do to you in 5 or 10 years.
They have been trying to find a vaccine or a cure for stuff like AIDS for 40 years and not have one but they found a vaccine for this in 12 months? Na I will take my chances with Covid, where I know the chances of having it and being okay are nearly 100%.
So my choice to not take it at this time is calculated and has nothing to do with any kind of political stance.
I just think it's funny that Neil Young thought he was important enough to make Spotify care. Rogan probably makes them 20x more money, at least. They don't give a shit about Neil Young.
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Keep on rockin in the free world amirite?
That's a lot of democrats and independents. You need to tell them to get their vaccination.
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I understand skepticism on numbers coming from cdc, white house, etc, but the same numbers are coming from academic institutions all over the world, governments all over the world, and other organizations across the globe.
Those groups are focused on health and well-being of humans. Their purpose is not "sticking it to Americans who are right-leaning".
They had signed Rogan to a huge contract for his podcast because he is immensely popular. His viewership/listenership is the only reason this even became an issue. If he was on local community cable, no one would care. So, he has a big platform and he isn't spewing the predetermined talking points.
When's the last time anyone talked about cancelling The View for all their bs misinformation? Ummm, never, because it fits the narrative.
Here's the irony: all of this has surely only made Rogan and Spotify a bunch of new subscribers because I guarantee there are many who never heard of him or considered listening until this attack.
Me calling out anti-vax BS makes me indoctrinated by people seeking to "control the populace", got it, i'll work on that.
Hopefully I can make it up to you so you'll let me sit at the cool-kid table for lunch.
My question is, why should we even care about people who are using these crazy things as an alternative to a vaccine? These are people who will probably die prematurely from doing something dumb anyway. Taking a horse pill is just speeding up the process. Darwinism at work. And I don't need to hear @blazers say we need to protect others. If you listen to the people that he says you should listen to, then the vaccine is protecting people from dying for the most part. The people who haven't had the vaccine aren't going to get it at this point, so why keep trying to "protect" them? We're at a point now where we can just go back to normal. If you still feel the need to wear a mask, then wear a mask. If you don't want to be around a lot of people, then stay home. It's simple.
How do we actually know that??? "The easy answer is to just get vaxxed" only if one assumes that there is absolutely no possibility of any side effect either short or long term. We think we know, but we don't yet because it's been a blip of time.
Can you point to an actual study, not theory, that shows natural immunity drops significantly over time and fails to provide future benefit? The one out of Israel that just came out seems to suggest that natural immunity is better than vaxxed and just as good as natural with vax. And truthfully, I don't know that anyone can say this answer one way or the other yet as we've only even known about this for two years. I got chicken pox four decades ago. I've never gotten it again and they have never recommended I get the vaccine to have "additional" protection because I apparently have immunity from having recovered from the disease. Now you can point to the flu shot as a type that is constantly getting tweaked to the projected strain for that coming season, but the covid shot is the same as the original (unless they are lying by failing to disclose a tweak).
And I respectfully disagree that they (CDC, et al.) have recognized benefits of prior infections. If they actually recognized it, the Biden vax mandate would have not required those recovered individuals to get the needle as well.
For the record, ivermectin saved my brother-in-law's dad. Just 2 - 3 weeks ago.
But I get your point and I agree. I can't worry about someone who takes the vaccine and develops a heart problem and dies just like you don't need to worry about someone who refused the jab and gets COVID and dies.
The pandemic ended for me a long time ago. But it is nice to see others starting to join me in Normal Land.
I haven't been saying "protect others" since vaccines became avail (though the situation is still sticky for babies and young kids)
I've been saying the same thing I said above- "Our hospitalization rates and the number of breakouts (thinking of week-long school closures for example) would be in a much better position if everyone was vaxxed." - And this stuff impacts the economy.
I'm not sure why anyone would assume there is no possibility of any side effect. If that's what someone is waiting for, then they will always be waiting. Every medicine has a side effect. Even something as simple as Advil has side effects. The questions are, what the side effect is and how common it is.
But, with Omicron, even areas that have very high rates of vax have had corresponding high hospitalization rates and breakouts. So, it turns out that the vax isn't the cure all that was sold. And, I still would urge people to get it and have personally been fully boosted.
Agree 1000%. The powers that be want to act like being fully vaxxed and consistently boosted is like asking you to have a drink of spring water. Which is why the failure to fully recognize natural immunity is all the more puzzling. Makes one wonder if there are any other reasons behind the policies.
I was referring to the people who are taking the medicines from agriculture stores and taking the amount that was significantly higher than should be taken. The human version is fine and I take no issue with.
I've been there since pretty much the beginning. I was always a proponent of just letting people do what they've always done. If you're high risk and/or worried, then stay home.
There are 182 pages full of your posts where you are saying that.
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