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Most of the Covid vax deaths occur 5 months after the vaccine. Here's info the CDC is hiding.

I know one of your Q-type folks, over at the local Tractor Supply, and she's convinced that I'm (and everyone vaccinated) going to be dead by next spring because of the vaccines I got over a year ago. When I asked, "What happens if I'm still alive next summer?", she said "Well, you'll die eventually. Your body might take longer to die."

Impervious logic, right there!

Did you refuse measles, mumps, rubella and all other vaccines (immunizations) when you were a child?
 
I know one of your Q-type folks, over at the local Tractor Supply, and she's convinced that I'm (and everyone vaccinated) going to be dead by next spring because of the vaccines I got over a year ago. When I asked, "What happens if I'm still alive next summer?", she said "Well, you'll die eventually. Your body might take longer to die."

Impervious logic, right there!

Did you refuse measles, mumps, rubella and all other vaccines (immunizations) when you were a child?
Not everyone. Just a 60% increase in all-cause mortality has been documented and clearly correlates to the so-called vaccines.

My guess it will get worse, much worse. So maybe since the vaccines have been rolled out, they have killed 2-3 million and we'll see 20-30 million killed except if you count miscarriages, more like 100-130 million in population reduction for Americans.
 
I know one of your Q-type folks, over at the local Tractor Supply, and she's convinced that I'm (and everyone vaccinated) going to be dead by next spring because of the vaccines I got over a year ago. When I asked, "What happens if I'm still alive next summer?", she said "Well, you'll die eventually. Your body might take longer to die."

Impervious logic, right there!

Did you refuse measles, mumps, rubella and all other vaccines (immunizations) when you were a child?
And those vaccines were actual vaccines. They've had their problems as well but the Covid vaxxes are gene therapy that are not even designed to grant immunity from the disease.

I believe people will learn they were never designed to actually help anyone from suffering from Covid. Covid was just an excuse to conduct massive experimentation to "go under the skin" for entirely different purposes.
 
Not everyone. Just a 60% increase in all-cause mortality has been documented and clearly correlates to the so-called vaccines.

My guess it will get worse, much worse. So maybe since the vaccines have been rolled out, they have killed 2-3 million and we'll see 20-30 million killed except if you count miscarriages, more like 100-130 million in population reduction for Americans.
Probably billions of people.

That was the other detail she insisted... "They're going to depopulate the world."
 
Why is it you will never answer and explain why we were funding bioweapons research in Wuhan China?
Was that my task? I didn't know I was supposed to explain why "we" were doing that. I haven't been briefed on that information. I don't think I have the clearance badge for that level of security.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you've known all along why it happened, and you got it in great detail from highQctane.groomer.nuts
 
Was that my task? I didn't know I was supposed to explain why "we" were doing that. I haven't been briefed on that information. I don't think I have the clearance badge for that level of security.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you've known all along why it happened, and you got it in great detail from highQctane.groomer.nuts
You just duck and run as usual when faced with the obvious.

Take a stab at it. Why would you develop bioweapons in China, in their lab, so that they would have it as well unless you intended to do something with that? And lo and behold, out of Wuhan comes Covid.
 
You just duck and run as usual when faced with the obvious.

Take a stab at it. Why would you develop bioweapons in China, in their lab, so that they would have it as well unless you intended to do something with that? And lo and behold, out of Wuhan comes Covid.
Who developed bio weapons in China and what proof of it do you have.
 
Who developed bio weapons in China and what proof of it do you have.
Despite all the protestations on the left, it has been definitively proven that the Wuhan Flu escaped from the Wuhan lab. Why do you think China was doing gain of function research, mutating viruses to make them more virulent? For the benefit of mankind? Of course not, and you’re smart enough to know that. From what I understand, we were doing GOF research in Texas and NC as well. I don’t trust our government to do that stuff, let alone Communist China. We’re playing with fire. One of these viruses 🦠 could ”escape” and kill a third of the world’s population. Mankind is further developed scientifically than morally, it will be our downfall one day.
 
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And there it is, the root of why Trump was pushing nonsense so hard as a treatment.

  • Dr. Mehmet Oz, owns stock in Thermo Fisher Scientific, a supplier of the drug hydroxychloroquine
  • and McKesson, a distributor of it
  • Oz’s nonprofit received donations from Sanofi, which previously made it

 
And there it is, the root of why Trump was pushing nonsense so hard as a treatment.

  • Dr. Mehmet Oz, owns stock in Thermo Fisher Scientific, a supplier of the drug hydroxychloroquine
  • and McKesson, a distributor of it
  • Oz’s nonprofit received donations from Sanofi, which previously made it

Is that why Fauci originally stated it showed promise for treating SARs viruses, or all the doctors who treated their patients effectively with it, or elite scientists publicly stating it works as an early treatment and had we adopted it, as Trump wanted, hundreds of thousands of lives would be saved.

This guy is a real, legit working scientist. Fauci is a bureaucrat directly controlling over 6 billion dollars and with an outsize influence on where 60 billion is spent, and both he and others in the NIH have a direct conflict of interest as they own patents and collect royalties personally despite our tax dollars funding the research, and Fauci's patent rights are highly dubious in that he likely did no actual science himself on the patented thing.

 
And there it is, the root of why Trump was pushing nonsense so hard as a treatment.

  • Dr. Mehmet Oz, owns stock in Thermo Fisher Scientific, a supplier of the drug hydroxychloroquine
  • and McKesson, a distributor of it
  • Oz’s nonprofit received donations from Sanofi, which previously made it

Read and learn.

 
thanks for the link from 7/23/20. Large studies take awhile and hydroxy was found to be no more helpful than placebo.
You may well be right about hydroxy, but if "large studies take awhile", how is it that the vax was mandated on everyone and you basically said anyone who didn't just take it as fast as Oucci ordered it was a second class citizen who was destroying our country (remember, I had the vax so don't make any assumptions). Was that really a good idea? Just seems very hypocritical, particularly when the vax is based on a whole new theory for vaccines. Might it have something to do with orangeman on one topic and your glorious elected one on the other?
 
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You may well be right about hydroxy, but if "large studies take awhile", how is it that the vax was mandated on everyone and you basically said anyone who didn't just take it as fast as Oucci ordered it was a second class citizen who was destroying our country (remember, I had the vax so don't make any assumptions). Was that really a good idea? Just seems very hypocritical, particularly when the vax is based on a whole new theory for vaccines. Might it have something to do with orangeman on one topic and your glorious elected one on the other?
That’s easy, the vaccine was tested…
 
You may well be right about hydroxy, but if "large studies take awhile", how is it that the vax was mandated on everyone and you basically said anyone who didn't just take it as fast as Oucci ordered it was a second class citizen who was destroying our country (remember, I had the vax so don't make any assumptions). Was that really a good idea? Just seems very hypocritical, particularly when the vax is based on a whole new theory for vaccines. Might it have something to do with orangeman on one topic and your glorious elected one on the other?
The vax studies did take a long time. If you are serious about your question go look at the variables (largely the participants) and start & end dates. Then think about the manpower going into the gathering of data and analysis.

Eta, feels like you are trying to pick a stupid fight over semantics. I'm not interested in arguing for the sake of arguing. As Pryles said, vax was tested per regulations that have been around for eons.
 
The vax studies did take a long time. If you are serious about your question go look at the variables (largely the participants) and start & end dates. Then think about the manpower going into the gathering of data and analysis.

Eta, feels like you are trying to pick a stupid fight over semantics. I'm not interested in arguing for the sake of arguing. As Pryles said, vax was tested per regulations that have been around for eons.
I'm not interested in arguing for the sake of arguing either, but I do appreciate your actual, serious response. First, I am no health expert, don't represent myself as such and I haven't invested the time and energy to study all of these standards (you may well have all those qualities). However, I do have the capability to see contradictions or tendencies. In responding to @randman1 , you made the simple conclusion that he had used an old, small study regarding the use of hydrox whereas larger studies take "awhile" and had concluded no benefit beyond a placebo effect. That makes perfect sense, seems logical and fits with one's common sense (the study methodology, not a conclusion one way or the other). I also know you hate all things orange and the use of hydrox definitely has/had that tinting.

If you had simply said that his link to an old study had been surpassed because larger, longer term studies have concluded the placebo effect, I would have had no complaint. Your statement though was that studies take "awhile". Again, I have no idea what "vax . . . regulations" actually set as a standard, but I very seriously doubt that the covid vax met those levels. Simply put, the virus was identified, a scramble to develop a vax ensued, and it was started on people - in record numbers, in record time, and at a never before implementation rate (all while trump was in office mind you). Maybe this met vax regs, but if that's true and everything was fully tested, there would simply be no need to give Pfizer and Moderna legal insulation as well as give the drugs emergency approval. There's no way you cannot agree that these things weren't issued at an incredibly fast rate without studies taking "awhile". Health policy wise, I get it, but we are just now starting to really get to "long-term" and no amount of volume or manpower can offset the actual reality of time passing.

And I'm not so sure the issue is even settled with hydrox because more studies like this are just coming out (published ten days ago). I know it focuses on ivermectin (the drug your daily bibles known as the NYT and WP love to call horse dewormer), but there is an entire part where it was used as a protocol that also involves hydrox. We may not have these actual answers for decades.

 
thanks for the link from 7/23/20. Large studies take awhile and hydroxy was found to be no more helpful than placebo.
Wrong. You haven't read the studies. Nor looked at criticism of the few flawed studies the CDC and others touted, basically lying. Same with calling Ivermectin a horse dewormer when in reality there is a formation for human beings. Horses take anti-biotics as well.

Hirsch's reference to that study, furthermore, does not mean he hadn't read numerous other studies.

Both at that time and today, HCQ has proven to be an effective early treatment when combined with zinc.

Once the disease progresses past the viral stage into the autoimmune stage (cytokine storm), HCQ and zinc can still be helpful depending on the viral load still there but the patient then needs a treatment for the overactive immune system, which is what actually kills people with Covid. Typically that would be a steroid.

What you fail to realize is any study not following proper dosage and protocol is not a sincere and honest study. You also fail to realize the bulk of studies that have been done proving HCQ's effectiveness.
 
thanks for the link from 7/23/20. Large studies take awhile and hydroxy was found to be no more helpful than placebo.
Read and learn. From the American Journal of Medicine.

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Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) is an antimalarial/anti-inflammatory drug that impairs endosomal transfer of virions within human cells. HCQ is also a zinc ionophore that conveys zinc intracellularly to block the SARS-CoV-2 RNA-dependent RNA polymerase, which is the core enzyme of the virus replication.
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The currently completed retrospective studies and randomized trials have generally shown these findings: 1) when started late in the hospital course and for short durations of time, antimalarials appear to be ineffective, 2) when started earlier in the hospital course, for progressively longer durations and in outpatients, antimalarials may reduce the progression of disease, prevent hospitalization, and are associated with reduced mortality.
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In a retrospective inpatient study of 2541 patients hospitalized with COVID-19, therapy associated with an adjusted reduction in mortality was HCQ alone (hazard ratio
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HCQ was approved by the US Food and Drug Administration in 1955, has been used by hundreds of millions of people worldwide since then, is sold over the counter in many countries, and has a well-characterized safety profile that should not raise undue alarm.
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Although asymptomatic QT prolongation is a well-recognized and infrequent (<1%) complication of HCQ, it is possible that in the setting of acute illness symptomatic arrhythmias could develop. Data safety and monitoring boards have not declared safety concerns in any clinical trial published to date. Rare patients with a personal or family history of prolonged QT syndrome and those on additional QT prolonging, contraindicated drugs (eg, dofetilide, sotalol) should be treated with caution and a plan to monitor the QTc in the ambulatory setting. A typical HCQ regimen is 200 mg bid for 5 days and extended to 30 days for continued symptoms. A minimal sufficient dose of HCQ should be used, because in excessive doses the drug can interfere with early immune response to the virus."


 
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thanks for the link from 7/23/20. Large studies take awhile and hydroxy was found to be no more helpful than placebo.
Here's another concerning patients on ventilators. 2.9 times higher survival rate but at that stage it's not going to be as extremely effective as an early treatment.

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The observational study, published by medRxiv, found that antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, along with zinc, could increase the coronavirus survival rate by as much as nearly 200% if distributed at higher doses to ventilated patients with a severe version of the illness.

“We found that when the cumulative doses of two drugs, HCQ and AZM, were above a certain level, patients had a survival rate 2.9 times the other patients,” the study’s conclusion states."

 
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The vax studies did take a long time. If you are serious about your question go look at the variables (largely the participants) and start & end dates. Then think about the manpower going into the gathering of data and analysis.

Eta, feels like you are trying to pick a stupid fight over semantics. I'm not interested in arguing for the sake of arguing. As Pryles said, vax was tested per regulations that have been around for eons.
You realize the government and others were lying to suggest HCQ wasn't safe or effective? The Lancet had to even withdraw an obviously flawed study which the CDC and Fauci touted, when apparently the data used was a complete fabrication.

Why did they publish it when it was so easily clear it was bunk?

Oh, politics couldn't have anything to do with it? No way they would just let millions die because they wanted the vax and couldn't do that if cheap, early and effective treatments were available, but they did exactly that.

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The study authors said they launched an independent review to confirm the findings, but said the company would not provide access to all of the data.

"Based on this development, we can no longer vouch for the veracity of the primary data sources," the authors wrote.
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"A first-year statistics major could tell you about major flaws in the design of the analysis."

 
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"The clots are said to be white, fibrous, and rubbery and can be the size of a grain of sand or as long as a human leg. They can be as thick as a pinky finger. One embalmer claimed they can be “nearly the strength of steel.” Embalmers across the nation are contending that these clots are not normal......

Prior to 2020, 2021, we probably would see somewhere between 5 to 10 percent of the bodies that we would embalm having blood clots,” licensed embalmer Richard Hirschman told The Epoch Times.

Today, Hirschman, who embalms in Alabama, claims that 50% to 70% of the bodies have clots.

“For me to embalm a body without any clots, kind of like how it was in the day, prior to all of this stuff, it’s rare,” Hirschman continued.

“The exception is to embalm a body without clots,” he added.

“They’re not even dead from COVID. They’re dying of sudden heart attacks, strokes, cancers,” Hirschman stated. “It doesn’t seem to matter what these people die of nowadays, so many of them have the same anomalies in their blood.”

 
" You ask why doctors are silent. The electronic medical records (EMRs) are a ball and chain to physicians. We are tracked through them. When I wrote a prescription for Ivermectin for a patient, with informed consent (she was vaccinated), I received 5 letters threatening my medical license, my hospital privileges, and my insurance contracts. I would not have received 5 letters if I killed someone in negligence or malpractice. If I have my license pulled, I will no longer be able to help my patients.

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told patients over a year ago that the vax would not prevent them from getting COVID. It was never studied to do so. I actually read the studies. This of course was disinformation, but has now been proven to be true."

 
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"If the American people want to know who injected politics into science, delaying vaccines and causing thousands of unnecessary deaths, they need look no further than the current White House and its media and academic enablers."


I know, I know, it's the NY Post, the ones that put out the false Hunter Biden laptop story, oh wait. . . . .
 
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The victims of our public health “experts’” disastrous policies still cry out for justice. We must never forget how the Biden administration lied to the public, twisted “the science” to force lockdowns, then stripped unvaccinated servicemembers, health-care workers, and thousands of employees of their livelihoods through draconian and arbitrary mandates.

A Republican-controlled Congress must ensure these experts pay for perpetrating tyranny against Americans."

 
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