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There are more deaths in the spring than avg. Way more. So if "the rest being from usual causes" then why are there way more cancer deaths and other usual causes in the spring of 2020?

like anyone could even know why there is a statistically variant number of unrelatable deaths (from accidents and heart attacks and cancer, etc.) in some chosen time frame; and what difference does it make and who gives a shit? The point is that those deaths were not covid-related, which is what you were asking about.
 
You are ignoring the increase part.
The interestingpart is that plenty of people's skepticism is changing, most happen to be fox viewers.

An aside, I think your point about NET is ignoring the total excess part which has nothing to do w cause unless you believe Cletus'ses's theory above that massive quantities of treatable deaths are happening (and that somehow these avoiders of treatment are tagged as covid anyway).
What I found to be even more notable than Fox numbers was the CNN/MSNBC numbers. Fox was 14 points higher than the "None" category, which I think is a good baseline. CNN/MSNBC was 41(!) points below that baseline. Viewers of both are sheep, but the CNN/MSNBC crowd seems much sheepier from this poll.
 
What I found to be even more notable than Fox numbers was the CNN/MSNBC numbers. Fox was 14 points higher than the "None" category, which I think is a good baseline. CNN/MSNBC was 41(!) points below that baseline. Viewers of both are sheep, but the CNN/MSNBC crowd seems much sheepier from this poll.
The entire group has obviously gotten even more skeptical, which sucks, since this country needs less division not more. But why is "none" the good baseline. That chart is ONLY people who believe in overcounting, (which is like a third of everyone polled).
 
That chart is ONLY people who believe in overcounting, (which is like a third of everyone polled).
Yes, it's a percentage who believe the count is inflated. As in 38% of Fox viewers don't believe it's overcounted. The "None" is a good benchmark because it is (presumably) free from media bias on the topic. The fox bias clearly skews towards believing its overcounted - by 14% over the benchmark (i.e. the people who don't watch a news network). The CNN/MSNBC bias skews even more heavily towards the opposite, at 41% below the benchmark.
 
Yes, it's a percentage who believe the count is inflated. As in 38% of Fox viewers don't believe it's overcounted. The "None" is a good benchmark because it is (presumably) free from media bias on the topic. The fox bias clearly skews towards believing its overcounted - by 14% over the benchmark (i.e. the people who don't watch a news network). The CNN/MSNBC bias skews even more heavily towards the opposite, at 41% below the benchmark.

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As in 38% of Fox viewers don't believe it's overcounted.
It isn't showing the percentage who believe the count is inflated. It is showing the changes, grouped by viewership, of those who believe the count is inflated.

So your sentence is wrong. Of the Americas who believe there is overcounting, currently 62% say Fox is their main newssource.

We don't see the rest of the data, it is possible the other two-thirds of americans who DON'T believe in overcounting all get their news from somewhere other than "none".
 
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It isn't showing the percentage who believe the count is inflated. It is showing the changes, grouped by viewership, of those who believe the count is inflated.

So your sentence is wrong. Of the Americas who believe there is overcounting, currently 62% say Fox is their main newssource.

We don't see the rest of the data, it is possible the other two-thirds of americans who DON'T believe in overcounting all get their news from somewhere other than "none".
No, you're wrong. It's saying 62% of Fox viewers polled believe it's overcounted. Not that 62% of those that believe it's overcounted get their news from Fox. The guy posting the tweet even says as much in the tweet.

Just look at the count. 62% Fox, 48% none, 44% local, 31% online, 23% newspaper, and 7% CNN/MSNBC. Total those up and with your interpretation you'd have a total of 215%.

I almost fell for that a couple months ago when a poaster tried to tell me 335M out of the 330M people in the country were an at risk population. Fool me once shame on you, but fool me twice shame on me.
 
No, you're wrong. It's saying 62% of Fox viewers polled believe it's overcounted.
I mispoke, my bad. But I think you are still wrong on part.

The article says:
Fox newswatchers who say deaths are being over-counted shot up from 44% to 62%.

So it is not saying 62% of fox viewers polled believe it is overcounted.
I should just delete that post, eh? Point is America is just getting more and more skeptical, distrustful.
 
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I mispoke, my bad. But I think you are still wrong on part.

The article says:
Fox newswatchers who say deaths are being over-counted shot up from 44% to 62%.

So it is not saying 62% of fox viewers polled believe it is overcounted.

I should just delete that post, eh? Point is America is just getting more and more skeptical, distrustful.

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So there have evidently been some politicians stupid enough not to wear one in the chamber I’m guessing

Oh for sure. Little mom and pop stores in my state have required them for months because there are people that don't want to wear them on their own. I wouldn't have expected a small time business to be that far ahead of Pelosi in quelling the spread, but I guess I shouldn't be shocked since there wasn't any mask company out there paying her to require them.
 
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Oh for sure. Little mom and pop stores in my state have required them for months because there are people that don't want to wear them on their own. I wouldn't have expected a small time business to be that far ahead of Pelosi in quelling the spread, but I guess I shouldn't be shocked since there wasn't any mask company out there paying her to require them.

True that. But what you wanna bet it’s all republicans that have been refusing to wear one? Maybe for the same reason?
 
True that. But what you wanna bet it’s all republicans that have been refusing to wear one? Maybe for the same reason?

I would definitely guess it was. Because Democrats were shitty enough to politicize mask wearing, and Republicans were dumb enough to fall for it. As always, the country loses as a result.
 
......and this is why we're banned from every other country right now.

Is anything more moronic than "I will die before I wear this piece of cloth"
And, fvck it if I get other people sick in the process. WHo knows how many people Cain infected! If Cain had worn a mask, he'd possibly still be alive, or if the person that was infected had been wearing one!

It is EXACTLY LIKE 1918/1919. Hard-headed people just refuse to do what is needed to make it go away faster and with less overall damage.
 
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"“The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” ...


 
Are you slow?
You responded to my post saying:

"It's crazy that it takes 5 months for science to prove that masks protect the wearer too. Better late than never i guess."

5 months is slow.

I don't think that protecting the wearer has anything to do with it being required. What does Pelosi care if someone that doesn't want to wear a mask gets infected? I would have thought she would have acted to protect the House awhile ago since she knew that masks would protect everyone else in the House.
 
"“The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” ...



Work with a guy that graduated with Kushner at NYU...He said he doesn't have a soul and that he'd kill people if it meant he made $10 more on something.
 
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