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Flying Flynny . .

The abrupt resignation Monday evening of White House national security adviser Michael Flynn is the culmination of a secret, months-long campaign by former Obama administration confidantes to handicap President Donald Trump's national security apparatus and preserve the nuclear deal with Iran, according to multiple sources in and out of the White House who described to the Washington Free Beacon a behind-the-scenes effort by these officials to plant a series of damaging stories about Flynn in the national media.

The effort, said to include former Obama administration adviser Ben Rhodes—the architect of a separate White House effort to create what he described as a pro-Iran echo chamber—included a small task force of Obama loyalists who deluged media outlets with stories aimed at eroding Flynn's credibility, multiple sources revealed.

The operation primarily focused on discrediting Flynn, an opponent of the Iran nuclear deal, in order to handicap the Trump administration's efforts to disclose secret details of the nuclear deal with Iran that had been long hidden by the Obama administration.

Insiders familiar with the anti-Flynn campaign told the Free Beacon that these Obama loyalists plotted in the months before Trump's inauguration to establish a set of roadblocks before Trump's national security team, which includes several prominent opponents of diplomacy with Iran. The Free Beaconfirst reported on this effort in January.

Sources who spoke to the Free Beacon requested anonymity in order to speak freely about the situation and avoid interfering with the White House's official narrative about Flynn, which centers on his failure to adequately inform the president about a series of phone calls with Russian officials.

Flynn took credit for his missteps regarding these phone calls in a brief statement released late Monday evening. Trump administration officials subsequently stated that Flynn's efforts to mislead the president and vice president about his contacts with Russia could not be tolerated.

However, multiple sources closely involved in the situation pointed to a larger, more secretive campaign aimed at discrediting Flynn and undermining the Trump White House.

"It's undeniable that the campaign to discredit Flynn was well underway before Inauguration Day, with a very troublesome and politicized series of leaks designed to undermine him," said one veteran national security adviser with close ties to the White House team. "This pattern reminds me of the lead up to the Iran deal, and probably features the same cast of characters."

The Free Beacon first reported in January that, until its final days in office, the Obama administration hosted several pro-Iran voices who were critical in helping to mislead the American public about the terms of the nuclear agreement. This included a former Iranian government official and the head of the National Iranian American Council, or NIAC, which has been accused of serving as Iran's mouthpiece in Washington, D.C.

Since then, top members of the Obama administration's national security team have launched a communications infrastructure after they left the White House, and have told reporters they are using that infrastructure to undermine Trump's foreign policy.

"It's actually Ben Rhodes, NIAC, and the Iranian mullahs who are celebrating today," said one veteran foreign policy insider who is close to Flynn and the White House. "They know that the number one target is Iran … [and] they all knew their little sacred agreement with Iran was going to go off the books. So they got rid of Flynn before any of the [secret] agreements even surfaced."

Flynn had been preparing to publicize many of the details about the nuclear deal that had been intentionally hidden by the Obama administration as part of its effort to garner support for the deal, these sources said.

Flynn is now "gone before anybody can see what happened" with these secret agreements, said the second insider close to Flynn and the White House.

Sources in and out of the White House are concerned that the campaign against Flynn will be extended to other prominent figures in the Trump administration.

One senior White House official told the Free Beacon that leaks targeting the former official were "not the result of a series of random events."

"The drumbeat of leaks of sensitive material related to General Flynn has been building since he was named to his position," said the official, who is a member of the White House's National Security Council. "Last night was not the result of a series of random events. The president has lost a valuable adviser and we need to make sure this sort of thing does not happen again."

Other sources expressed concern that public trust in the intelligence community would be eroded by the actions of employees with anti-Trump agendas.

"The larger issue that should trouble the American people is the far-reaching power of unknown, unelected apparatchiks in the Intelligence Community deciding for themselves both who serves in government and what is an acceptable policy they will allow the elected representatives of the people to pursue," said the national security adviser quoted above.

"Put aside the issue of Flynn himself; that nameless, faceless bureaucrats were able to take out a president's national security adviser based on a campaign of innuendo without evidence should worry every American," the source explained.

Eli Lake, a Bloomberg View columnist and veteran national security reporter well sourced in the White House, told the Free Beacon that Flynn earned a reputation in the Obama administration as one of its top detractors.

"Michael Flynn was one of the Obama administration's fiercest critics after he was forced out of the Defense Intelligence Agency," said Lake, who described "the political assassination of Michael Flynn" in his column published early Tuesday.

"[Flynn] was a withering critic of Obama's biggest foreign policy initiative, the Iran deal," Lake said. "He also publicly accused the administration of keeping classified documents found in the Osama bin Laden raid that showed Iran's close relationship with al Qaeda. He was a thorn in their side."

Lake noted in his column that he does not buy fully the White House's official spin on Flynn's resignation.

"For a White House that has such a casual and opportunistic relationship with the truth, it's strange that Flynn's ‘lie' to Pence would get him fired," Lake wrote. "It doesn't add up."

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer stated in his daily briefing that "the evolving and eroding level of trust as a result of this situation and a series of other questionable incidents is what led the president to ask General Flynn for his resignation."

A third source who serves as a congressional adviser and was involved in the 2015 fight over the Iran deal told the Free Beacon that the Obama administration feared that Flynn would expose the secret agreements with Iran.

"The Obama administration knew that Flynn was going to release the secret documents around the Iran deal, which would blow up their myth that it was a good deal that rolled back Iran," the source said. "So in December the Obama NSC started going to work with their favorite reporters, selectively leaking damaging and incomplete information about Flynn."

"After Trump was inaugurated some of those people stayed in and some began working from the outside, and they cooperated to keep undermining Trump," the source said, detailing a series of leaks from within the White House in the past weeks targeting Flynn. "Last night's resignation was their first major win, but unless the Trump people get serious about cleaning house, it won't be the last."
Skulking ?

More like Strutting out the door with a 60% approval rating . .
 
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Skulking ?

More like Strutting out the door with a 60% approval rating . .
So, what exactly did Obama do with respect to Russia? Left a bunch of thug bureaucrats in place to undermine Trump every day. They should all be removed for cause, just because.
 
The abrupt resignation Monday evening of White House national security adviser Michael Flynn is the culmination of a secret, months-long campaign by former Obama administration confidantes to handicap President Donald Trump's national security apparatus and preserve the nuclear deal with Iran, according to multiple sources in and out of the White House who described to the Washington Free Beacon a behind-the-scenes effort by these officials to plant a series of damaging stories about Flynn in the national media.

The effort, said to include former Obama administration adviser Ben Rhodes—the architect of a separate White House effort to create what he described as a pro-Iran echo chamber—included a small task force of Obama loyalists who deluged media outlets with stories aimed at eroding Flynn's credibility, multiple sources revealed.

The operation primarily focused on discrediting Flynn, an opponent of the Iran nuclear deal, in order to handicap the Trump administration's efforts to disclose secret details of the nuclear deal with Iran that had been long hidden by the Obama administration.

Insiders familiar with the anti-Flynn campaign told the Free Beacon that these Obama loyalists plotted in the months before Trump's inauguration to establish a set of roadblocks before Trump's national security team, which includes several prominent opponents of diplomacy with Iran. The Free Beaconfirst reported on this effort in January.

Sources who spoke to the Free Beacon requested anonymity in order to speak freely about the situation and avoid interfering with the White House's official narrative about Flynn, which centers on his failure to adequately inform the president about a series of phone calls with Russian officials.

Flynn took credit for his missteps regarding these phone calls in a brief statement released late Monday evening. Trump administration officials subsequently stated that Flynn's efforts to mislead the president and vice president about his contacts with Russia could not be tolerated.

However, multiple sources closely involved in the situation pointed to a larger, more secretive campaign aimed at discrediting Flynn and undermining the Trump White House.

"It's undeniable that the campaign to discredit Flynn was well underway before Inauguration Day, with a very troublesome and politicized series of leaks designed to undermine him," said one veteran national security adviser with close ties to the White House team. "This pattern reminds me of the lead up to the Iran deal, and probably features the same cast of characters."

The Free Beacon first reported in January that, until its final days in office, the Obama administration hosted several pro-Iran voices who were critical in helping to mislead the American public about the terms of the nuclear agreement. This included a former Iranian government official and the head of the National Iranian American Council, or NIAC, which has been accused of serving as Iran's mouthpiece in Washington, D.C.

Since then, top members of the Obama administration's national security team have launched a communications infrastructure after they left the White House, and have told reporters they are using that infrastructure to undermine Trump's foreign policy.

"It's actually Ben Rhodes, NIAC, and the Iranian mullahs who are celebrating today," said one veteran foreign policy insider who is close to Flynn and the White House. "They know that the number one target is Iran … [and] they all knew their little sacred agreement with Iran was going to go off the books. So they got rid of Flynn before any of the [secret] agreements even surfaced."

Flynn had been preparing to publicize many of the details about the nuclear deal that had been intentionally hidden by the Obama administration as part of its effort to garner support for the deal, these sources said.

Flynn is now "gone before anybody can see what happened" with these secret agreements, said the second insider close to Flynn and the White House.

Sources in and out of the White House are concerned that the campaign against Flynn will be extended to other prominent figures in the Trump administration.

One senior White House official told the Free Beacon that leaks targeting the former official were "not the result of a series of random events."

"The drumbeat of leaks of sensitive material related to General Flynn has been building since he was named to his position," said the official, who is a member of the White House's National Security Council. "Last night was not the result of a series of random events. The president has lost a valuable adviser and we need to make sure this sort of thing does not happen again."

Other sources expressed concern that public trust in the intelligence community would be eroded by the actions of employees with anti-Trump agendas.

"The larger issue that should trouble the American people is the far-reaching power of unknown, unelected apparatchiks in the Intelligence Community deciding for themselves both who serves in government and what is an acceptable policy they will allow the elected representatives of the people to pursue," said the national security adviser quoted above.

"Put aside the issue of Flynn himself; that nameless, faceless bureaucrats were able to take out a president's national security adviser based on a campaign of innuendo without evidence should worry every American," the source explained.

Eli Lake, a Bloomberg View columnist and veteran national security reporter well sourced in the White House, told the Free Beacon that Flynn earned a reputation in the Obama administration as one of its top detractors.

"Michael Flynn was one of the Obama administration's fiercest critics after he was forced out of the Defense Intelligence Agency," said Lake, who described "the political assassination of Michael Flynn" in his column published early Tuesday.

"[Flynn] was a withering critic of Obama's biggest foreign policy initiative, the Iran deal," Lake said. "He also publicly accused the administration of keeping classified documents found in the Osama bin Laden raid that showed Iran's close relationship with al Qaeda. He was a thorn in their side."

Lake noted in his column that he does not buy fully the White House's official spin on Flynn's resignation.

"For a White House that has such a casual and opportunistic relationship with the truth, it's strange that Flynn's ‘lie' to Pence would get him fired," Lake wrote. "It doesn't add up."

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer stated in his daily briefing that "the evolving and eroding level of trust as a result of this situation and a series of other questionable incidents is what led the president to ask General Flynn for his resignation."

A third source who serves as a congressional adviser and was involved in the 2015 fight over the Iran deal told the Free Beacon that the Obama administration feared that Flynn would expose the secret agreements with Iran.

"The Obama administration knew that Flynn was going to release the secret documents around the Iran deal, which would blow up their myth that it was a good deal that rolled back Iran," the source said. "So in December the Obama NSC started going to work with their favorite reporters, selectively leaking damaging and incomplete information about Flynn."

"After Trump was inaugurated some of those people stayed in and some began working from the outside, and they cooperated to keep undermining Trump," the source said, detailing a series of leaks from within the White House in the past weeks targeting Flynn. "Last night's resignation was their first major win, but unless the Trump people get serious about cleaning house, it won't be the last."
Is this your post or did you copy it?
 
So, here are the likely leakers... One or all or more of the following: Ben Rhodes (part of Obama's WH National Security team), Brennan (Obama CIA Director), James Clapper (Obama's DNI), Obama's NSA Director. The leaked information is highly sensitive, Top Secret SCI SIGINT. It takes a FISA court to allow the Intel community to use this type of information and the contents of that info are closely held to a very small group within the government. That group is principally those listed above with the addition of a few deputies. That group will become the target of a DOJ investigation and congressional investigation into the leaked material. In addition to these former "leaders" of the intel community, there are individuals at DOJ (who also gave the Trump WH the "courtesy" heads up about the contents of Flynn's conversations with he Russian ambassador) who will also be investigated since they were privy to the information turned over by the intel community to DOJ and will be prime suspects in the leaking of TOP SECRET SCI SIGINT.

Flynn's career is over. Some or all of these people's lives are over. They will be subjected to polygraph tests which will reveal their felonies, each count of which carries fines of $10K and 10years in prison.
 
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By the way, this is an interesting perspective.

You have decided to put yourself in a hypothetical situation like that in order to justify your preference for violence. You've never experienced this, personally, have you? Even if you have, it really doesn't matter. You've still chosen to advocate violence because you're afraid of what other people MIGHT do to you. So, when you see violence (of any form, to any degree), you've consented to it and basically encouraged more because, if people don't fight back then "evil wins", or something to that effect.

First off, you're jumping to conclusions assuming I'd get myself out of that situation using violence. I merely said that letting the guy know that I wouldn't shoot him would get me a laugh, and probably a bullet in the dome, in response.

But, to play along with your assumption - how is it a fear of what someone MIGHT do to me? If the guy literally says, "I'm gonna shoot you unless you shoot me first" I think we can fairly easily take the "might" out of the situation.

I'm not so self-centered as to think that my abstaining from violence will finally end violence worldwide.
 
So, here are the likely leakers... One or all or more of the following: Ben Rhodes (part of Obama's WH National Security team), Brennan (Obama CIA Director), James Clapper (Obama's DNI), Obama's NSA Director. The leaked information is highly sensitive, Top Secret SCI SIGINT. It takes a FISA court to allow the Intel community to use this type of information and the contents of that info are closely held to a very small group within the government. That group is principally those listed above with the addition of a few deputies. That group will become the target of a DOJ investigation and congressional investigation into the leaked material. In addition to these former "leaders" of the intel community, there are individuals at DOJ (who also gave the Trump WH the "courtesy" heads up about the contents of Flynn's conversations with he Russian ambassador) who will also be investigated since they were privy to the information turned over by the intel community to DOJ and will be prime suspects in the leaking of TOP SECRET SCI SIGINT.

Flynn's career is over. Some or all of these people's lives are over. They will be subjected to polygraph tests which will reveal their felonies, each count of which carries fines of $10K and 10years in prison.

Trumpy loved him some leaks during the campaign . . he praised them wikileaks folks, and then begged Russia to find Clinton's emails. Now that the leaks are on his shit, he's not such a big fan of them. SUCK IT DONNY
 
I'm not so self-centered as to think that my abstaining from violence will finally end violence worldwide.
No, you're self-centered because you think it won't. And, more than self-centered, you're condoning more violence to occur to thwart violence. So, more people are killed so less people are killed, or however you work it out. It's okay to kill certain people because you've determined they need to be killed. Hey, that Love Bucket in North Korea may decide that the world would be better off if the USA was wiped-off the planet. He's decided that the USA has killed too many people and will keep killing more people, so it's time to kill us. Problem solved!

I've actually been IN the situation where there's a criminal who has a gun to my head, so, I kinda have that as a precedent to go by. My instinct wasn't "I gotta kill him before he kills me."
 
The $64,000 question is did he do this on his own (not likely) or was he given the OK from higher up?
I see no reason why he would ask Trump for permission to do this when he wasn't even appointed to the position yet. Conspiracy theories are fun though.
 
Trumpy loved him some leaks during the campaign . . he praised them wikileaks folks, and then begged Russia to find Clinton's emails. Now that the leaks are on his shit, he's not such a big fan of them. SUCK IT DONNY
The good part about this is that Obama's idiot intel officials are subject to jail time for leaking TS SCI SIGINT. Idiot Obama did nothing to help the idiots at DNC and $hill's campaign goon catch the culprits who DUMS believe are responsible for their loss of the WH, failure to win the Senate. So, idiot DUMS will get screwed twice. One in the pink, two in the stink! Perfect!
 
I see no reason why he would ask Trump for permission to do this when he wasn't even appointed to the position yet. Conspiracy theories are fun though.
Wait, Flynn was not Trump's guy?

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I really don't understand why the DUMS want an investigation of Trump ties to Russia... All they have to do is LEAK all the TS SCI SIGINT Obama's intel goons have collected on Trump and his associates over the last 2-3 years. Settle everything very quickly...
 
Look, sweetheart. You are wanting me to advocate and condone violence when and where it doesn't exist. You make up these hypothetical situations and say "Will you kill them now?" I'm not falling for it. I'm not allowing my conscience to advocate it when it's not even present. I'm not going to create an instinct for myself that is based in fear, if I can help it. So, meantime, suck a fart out of my ass. Peace!
That's right Pearl Harbor didn't happen. You are as full of shit as a Christmas turkey.
 
I'd love to hear the reason he would ask Trump for permission. It just doesn't make sense to me.

0910 -- you're wasting your time. Might as well just try to have fun stoking the fire.

There's really no conspiracy theory here to be had. Go watch Sum of all Fears. I know movies are only a minor depiction of reality, but I do believe a lot of these back channel communications exist among the world powers to ensure we won't break out into WWIII. Just b/c the media flips out (selectively) when they catch wind of something doesn't mean that any one of us is getting the full context.

There's really nothing to see here IMO.
 
That's right Pearl Harbor didn't happen. You are as full of shit as a Christmas turkey.

When you see kids fighting in a schoolyard, do you try and get more kids to fight each other based on who they are hoping wins the fight they're watching?

What kind of Christmas Turkeys are you used to eating?
 
When you see kids fighting in a schoolyard, do you try and get more kids to fight each other based on who they are hoping wins the fight they're watching?

What kind of Christmas Turkeys are you used to eating?
Again, don't answer the PH question. Tell the WW2 vets your love story. The 3 d's for you duck, dodge, deflect.
 
When you see kids fighting in a schoolyard, do you try and get more kids to fight each other based on who they are hoping wins the fight they're watching?

What kind of Christmas Turkeys are you used to eating?
You don't deal in hypotheticals remember? You are full of shit!
 
Again, don't answer the PH question. Tell the WW2 vets your love story. The 3 d's for you duck, dodge, deflect.
The US managed to finally get into WW2, good for them! If the US never gets into WWI then there's never a WW2 or Pearl Harbor. The end of WWI and the Treaty of Versailles guarantees another war. So, if "I'm the US", then I never get into WWI to begin with.
 
The US managed to finally get into WW2, good for them! If the US never gets into WWI then there's never a WW2 or Pearl Harbor. The end of WWI and the Treaty of Versailles guarantees another war. So, if "I'm the US", then I never get into WWI to begin with.
Tell it to the WW2 vets
 
The US managed to finally get into WW2, good for them! If the US never gets into WWI then there's never a WW2 or Pearl Harbor. The end of WWI and the Treaty of Versailles guarantees another war. So, if "I'm the US", then I never get into WWI to begin with.
Managed to get into? The Japanese bombed PH. Back away from the crackpipe
 
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If you believe you can stop violence and war by advocating for "necessary violence and war" just make all violence and war "necessary" and it works just fine.

But, please don't pretend you prefer peace, because you're a liar.
 
Strum -- in your honest opinion, was the Holocaust the fault of the Jews? Surely their mere existence provoked the Nazi's, right? I mean, they dared to breathe and all...
The Holocaust was the culmination of people believing that a certain group, because of their obvious inherent flaws as a race, needed to be cleansed from the human race. Nazis saw all Jews as parasites. They were born parasites and would always undermine civilized societies. To them, it was something they were born with. If you were Jewish, you were predisposed to undermine human society. So, they needed to be eradicated from the world's population because they were only a pariah to the human race. They always had been and always would be. So, because SOME OF THEM fit that description, the Nazis believed they were all like that.

Pretty fvcked-up thinking. But, when you base your understanding in fear, you get some unsavory results.
 
Strum would just hug it out with Japan when they bombed us, Germany when they slaughtered the Jews and those wonderful souls that accidentally flew planes into the twin towers and pentagon.

You don't get it...my gun-totin' Grand Pappy's sacrifice means nothing because...Make Love, Not War, maaaan. (puff puff, peace sign)
 
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The Holocaust was the culmination of people believing that a certain group, because of their obvious inherent flaws as a race, needed to be cleansed from the human race. Nazis saw all Jews as parasites. They were born parasites and would always undermine civilized societies. To them, it was something they were born with. If you were Jewish, you were predisposed to undermine human society. So, they needed to be eradicated from the world's population because they were only a pariah to the human race. They always had been and always would be. So, because SOME OF THEM fit that description, the Nazis believed they were all like that.

Pretty fvcked-up thinking. But, when you base your understanding in fear, you get some unsavory results.

Should the Jews have fought back?
 
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