Knox & Hamilton

[tw3301]

Actually, I think he could drastically change our team. I think it's a given that JJ will declare after this season and Knox would step in and ably fill the SF slot from day one. If Joel returns, and I think he will, we could once again be contenders for the ACC title if we get Knox. I still think he's dook or UK bound but I would be happy to be wrong.

I agree with this, he definitely fills a need for UNC next year and I think he will produce I just don't think he will produce at Jackson's level. That's not a slight at Knox I just think Jackson is playing great ball right now.

LOL, dude, did ya read your post, I did. You expressed your assumption that UNC fans considered the kid to be as good as this season's version of Justin to begin with and you ended by invoking Anthony Davis and telling us he was not going to be that?

Now I didn't just spin that, that is what you said and that is what I responded to. Re-read what you said and then consider where you said it and you should not be surprised that I took it in the context that I did or my reply to it.

BTW, it is 2017 and you do not know what throwing shade is? LOL

I'm not going to go back and forth with you because it wasn't my intention to upset you or anyone else on this board and I think you're reading wayyy too much into what I posted so I'll just agree to disagree and move on. Knox will be a good player wherever he goes and as I said he would definitely fill a need for UNC next year if he decided to go there. As far as the shade thing, I'm 32 and no longer as hip to the lingo as I used to be.

 

[Coach325]

He is a very good player who fits a position of need for us. Exactly what we need. He doesn't need to be the second coming and I don't know anyone who thinks he is.

I agree and wasn't disputing that fact. I think Knox will help whoever he chooses next year, but his role might be different than many of us (or even himself) envisions. Cal is telling Knox "he is the next Malik Monk" and Knox's game is nothing like Monk's game.........Cal has also promised Knox he won't ever touch the paint and might even play some SG at Kentucky. That was really my only point is that Knox sees himself as a perimeter player and his ball handling/shooting will need to get much better to make a HUGE impact as a perimeter player for whatever team he plays for.

 

[Archer2]

Coach, I never expect a huge impact from any UNC freshman, regardless of reputation. I do think that Knox is a very talented player who will help any team he decides to join. I agree that he needs to improve his ball handling as well as his perimeter shooting. I also see him as a potential mismatch for opposing defenses with his length and athleticism. He happens to fit a distinct need of UNC with Justin's eminent departure. But then again, any team in the country would gladly make room for him in their lineup.

I take the Doris Day approach to recruiting, que sera, sera. There isn't squat I can do to impact the outcome so I just wait and see what happens without investing too much emotional interest. The older I get the less inclined I am to hang on the decisions of youngsters.

 

[TheGLOV]

I'm sold on Knox.

Who is this Hamilton kid you speak off?

 

[Archer2]

Guys, let's not jump all over @tw3301. He's easily the best duke poaster we've ever had around here.

I agree, he seems to want to discuss basketball without rancor, much like Coach. I like that.

And with regard to Knox, he's spot on. Knox is not going to come in and produce at JJ's level as a junior. I could see him being here for 2 years. And then the question is this: would it be bad from a perception standpoint if Knox came and wasn't OAD? Personally, I don't care as I'm not a fan of chasing guys that have made it clear they only want to be in school for one year.

I think the perception is that he could be a OAD but I don't think it's set in stone. If he comes and is only here for one year, fine. If he's here multiple years, I'm fine with that too. I'm not one who thinks we need a couple of OAD's to get the OAD pipeline flowing, because that's not what I want to see at UNC.

But looking at Knox, I'm not sure why everyone thinks he's a bona fide OAD. Has he stated so? Is he better than Barnes? Does he have an interest in one day completing a degree? Does he want a semblance of a college experience? Are there holes in his game that will get exposed playing 28 mpg in our system? It will be Berry and Theo's team next year and they will be the guys Roy leans on.

I personally haven't read any statements from him or his family that he wants to be a OAD. Perhaps they've said so and I've missed it, I don't know. As for the other, Roy will no doubt lean on Joel and Theo next year, but there will be plenty of scoring to replace with the loss of JJ/Isaiah/Kennedy/Nate and Knox' ability to score the ball would be a big asset.

 

[Archer2]

I'm sold on Knox.

Who is this Hamilton kid you speak off?

We're supposedly after him hard.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/11039

 

[Coach325]

Coach, I never expect a huge impact from any UNC freshman, regardless of reputation. I do think that Knox is a very talented player who will help any team he decides to join. I agree that he needs to improve his ball handling as well as his perimeter shooting. I also see him as a potential mismatch for opposing defenses with his length and athleticism. He happens to fit a distinct need of UNC with Justin's eminent departure. But then again, any team in the country would gladly make room for him in their lineup.

I take the Doris Day approach to recruiting, que sera, sera. There isn't squat I can do to impact the outcome so I just wait and see what happens without investing too much emotional interest. The older I get the less inclined I am to hang on the decisions of youngsters.

That is probably the best approach to take. A lot of times it isnt' that recruits aren't performing well, it's simply that they don't live up to the unfair expectations that us fans put on them. Knox will be a good one and will help whoever gets him.

 

[Archer2]

That is probably the best approach to take. A lot of times it isnt' that recruits aren't performing well, it's simply that they don't live up to the unfair expectations that us fans put on them. Knox will be a good one and will help whoever gets him.

Absolutely true. And I think you're right in that Knox isn't a dominant player like Anthony Davis but a very good player who will make any team he joins better.

 

[DSouthr]

I agree with this, he definitely fills a need for UNC next year and I think he will produce I just don't think he will produce at Jackson's level. That's not a slight at Knox I just think Jackson is playing great ball right now.

I'm not going to go back and forth with you because it wasn't my intention to upset you or anyone else on this board and I think you're reading wayyy too much into what I posted so I'll just agree to disagree and move on. Knox will be a good player wherever he goes and as I said he would definitely fill a need for UNC next year if he decided to go there. As far as the shade thing, I'm 32 and no longer as hip to the lingo as I used to be.

Upset? I am not upset, I just didn't agree ?

AS for Knox, if we were to get him, being able to produce at the level Jackson is this season, I would not expect that, I would suggest he may be able to produce more than Justin did as a freshman, maybe closer to what Justin gave us last season. Knox is a bit more physical than Justin was up to this season.

What the kid would give us is the ability to switch a lot between he and Theo no matter if Theo comes in at the 4 or the 2, like he and Justin have been able to switch last season and this. I do think he would walk in to the starting wing spot for us and frankly, I would start Theo at the 4 and figure out if it is Jalek/Kenny/Brob that starts at the 2.

Now as for the shade deal, tellin me I am 58 and know what it is and you are 32 and don't? LOL FYI, throwing shade is down grading someone, it is lessening them in importance.

 

[tw3301]

Now as for the shade deal, tellin me I am 58 and know what it is and you are 32 and don't? LOL FYI, throwing shade is down grading someone, it is lessening them in importance.

Yeah I figured it out, it's like my nephew always saying "lit," no clue. As for Knox... I posted this on our premium board but I'll post it here as well, if he wants to play a stretch 4 then I hope he comes to Duke but if he's wanting to live on the perimeter then I hope he goes somewhere else.

 

[DSouthr]

Yeah I figured it out, it's like my nephew always saying "lit," no clue. As for Knox... I posted this on our premium board but I'll post it here as well, if he wants to play a stretch 4 then I hope he comes to Duke but if he's wanting to live on the perimeter then I hope he goes somewhere else.

It is kinda weird, I don't know that I would call Knox as much a stretch 4 as I would a long wing, I kinda see Tatum in a similar way. What I mean is Knox and Tatum can shoot but to me their best attribute is being able to put the ball on the floor and have the length to either pull up or go to the rack with strength. For me, a stretch 4 is more of a sweeter jump shooting power forward, all power forward just with the added ability to step way outside. Like kelly was for you guys, like the kid that left Ky and played for the Zags.

I see a wing as more of a driver than a pure shooter and a stretch 4 as more a pure shooter than a driver (big men do not typically put the ball on the floor like guards do). Not sure I explained that as well as I have it framed in my head.

 

[tw3301]

It is kinda weird, I don't know that I would call Knox as much a stretch 4 as I would a long wing, I kinda see Tatum in a similar way. What I mean is Knox and Tatum can shoot but to me their best attribute is being able to put the ball on the floor and have the length to either pull up or go to the rack with strength. For me, a stretch 4 is more of a sweeter jump shooting power forward, all power forward just with the added ability to step way outside. Like kelly was for you guys, like the kid that left Ky and played for the Zags.

I see a wing as more of a driver than a pure shooter and a stretch 4 as more a pure shooter than a driver (big men do not typically put the ball on the floor like guards do). Not sure I explained that as well as I have it framed in my head.

100% agree on the bolded part, I wouldn't want him on my team chucking threes.

 

[TheGLOV]

We're supposedly after him hard.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/11039

Not bad. I'll take him!

Thanks you sir for responding.

 

[Ozheelfan]

Hamilton looks like one of those kids who grew up in the UNC backyard, goes elsewhere, then torches the Heels one day.....

You can just hear the commentators: "That's right Jay, Hamilton was a lifelong Tar Heel fan who ended up in XXXX...... here he is now, fulfilling that childhood dream to play at the Dean Dome.... and what night he's having!"

 

[jah420]

The best thing for the program is not necessarily getting OAD players, but much more importantly, producing highly productive NBA players. That is the real key these days. Winning some natty's would help too....hahah!

 

[Coach325]

Based on latest info I got regarding Knox, I would say this is def. a Duke/UNC battle right now and I would give the slight edge to UNC. These things change with wind, but thought you guys might like to know for those who don't mind hearing from a Duke fan.

 

[Sk1310]

Based on latest info I got regarding Knox, I would say this is def. a Duke/UNC battle right now and I would give the slight edge to UNC. These things change with wind, but thought you guys might like to know for those who don't mind hearing from a Duke fan.

Thanks coach! That makes 2 Duke fans, you and helooks2muchlikedave saying Knox might be favoring UNC.

 

[soap - new and improved]

I wonder what Kevin Knox and family think about what transpired in Greenville this weekend?

 

[keysersosay#1]

Nobody knows anything about the mind set of these kids and how they are leaning one way or another...it is all pure speculation

 

[Archer2]

Will Knox sign with UNC?

 

[carolinablue34]

Will Knox sign with UNC?

I only hope you're right.

 

[Archer2]

I only hope you're right.

I believe if he was truly "dook's to lose" he would have already committed. I think he's supposed to make a decision by the end of next month so we shouldn't have much longer to wait. A potential lineup of Joel(I think he returns unless he blows up in the NCAAT), player X(Kenny or Felton), Theo, Knox, and Tony would be a very nice starting lineup.

 

[Ozheelfan]

I believe if he was truly "dook's to lose" he would have already committed. I think he's supposed to make a decision by the end of next month so we shouldn't have much longer to wait. A potential lineup of Joel(I think he returns unless he blows up in the NCAAT), player X(Kenny or Felton), Theo, Knox, and Tony would be a very nice starting lineup.

Careful Arch, you'll start another "Theo at the 2" debate!
Of course, happy to engage in that one after the first Monday in April and when Knox is on board.

 

[Archer2]

Careful Arch, you'll start another "Theo at the 2" debate!
Of course, happy to engage in that one after the first Monday in April and when Knox is on board.

Yeah, we pretty much beat that horse to a pulp.

 

[Ozheelfan]

Yeah, we pretty much beat that horse to a pulp.

I'm sure Dave has a few thousand words still left for that discussion!

 

[Archer2]

I'm sure Dave has a few thousand words left for any good discussion. Love that guy though.

 

[heels05champs]

@EvanDaniels: Mike Krzyzewski will meet with 5-star forward Kevin Knox this afternoon, per his father. Knox is the No. 7 recruit in the 2017 class.

Ridiculous that this isn't a dead period for recruiting. Coaches that get bounced out of the tourney early shouldn't get a jump on recruiting a player just cause their team sucked.

 

[tarh33ls]

@EvanDaniels: Mike Krzyzewski will meet with 5-star forward Kevin Knox this afternoon, per his father. Knox is the No. 7 recruit in the 2017 class.

Ridiculous that this isn't a dead period for recruiting. Coaches that get bounced out of the tourney early shouldn't get a jump on recruiting a player just cause their team sucked.

Yep. Hopefully he realizes why these coaches have so much free time.

 

[Sk1310]

@EvanDaniels: Mike Krzyzewski will meet with 5-star forward Kevin Knox this afternoon, per his father. Knox is the No. 7 recruit in the 2017 class.

Ridiculous that this isn't a dead period for recruiting. Coaches that get bounced out of the tourney early shouldn't get a jump on recruiting a player just cause their team sucked.

I remember reading he would probably meet one more time with all remaining schools on in home visits.

 

[tarheel0910]

@EvanDaniels: Mike Krzyzewski will meet with 5-star forward Kevin Knox this afternoon, per his father. Knox is the No. 7 recruit in the 2017 class.

K also said that if Knox couldn't make it today, his schedule was wide open this weekend.

 

[strummingram]

Knox will be a blew devul. I've been prepared for it for quite a while.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Knox will be a blew devul. I've been prepared for it for quite a while.

Knox will be a Tar Heel. I've been excited for it for quite a while.

 

[SeaHawk98]

This is troubling. There is absolutely no reason to pick Duke over UNC. None. I know I am biased. K does NOT develop players unless you count flopping.

 

[strummingram]

Knox will be a Tar Heel. I've been excited for it for quite a while.

did you get those crop reports yet?

 

[tarh33ls]

I also think he's a Heel

 

[TPFKAPFS]

Theo was framed! (and he would have started!)

Projecting Knox into the starting lineup: TP is our starting 4!
1. JB
2. Felton/KW
3. Knox
4. TP (cross guard if their 4 is postal/regular if he stretches)
5. TB

Please tell me why this starting team couldn't get to the FF!

 

[Steat]

K will probably tell him that he expects a commitment from Duval which will give Duke the point guard to feed Knox. He dropped in and told Popcorn that Thornton would commit.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I believe if he was truly "dook's to lose" he would have already committed. I think he's supposed to make a decision by the end of next month so we shouldn't have much longer to wait. A potential lineup of Joel(I think he returns unless he blows up in the NCAAT), player X(Kenny or Felton), Theo, Knox, and Tony would be a very nice starting lineup.

That's with Theo at the 4, I assume.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Theo was framed! (and he would have started!)

Projecting Knox into the starting lineup: TP is our starting 4!
1. JB
2. Felton/KW
3. Knox
4. TP (cross guard if their 4 is postal/regular if he stretches)
5. TB

Please tell me why this starting team couldn't get to the FF!

I think they'd have a chance. But if they don't it will be because they are depending on 2 freshmen who may need a year under their belts and a senior who may still lose focus too often.

 

[Archer2]

That's with Theo at the 4, I assume.

Yep.