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I will take that as a compliment from a liberal millennial POS like you.

So legalize the extract only. It is people like you that are dugusting human beings by derailing this solution in a greedy effort to get a legal high for yourself. You should be ashamed

You already said you were okay with the recreational high part!
 
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I will take that as a compliment from a liberal millennial POS like you.

So legalize the extract only. It is people like you that are dugusting human beings by derailing this solution in a greedy effort to get a legal high for yourself. You should be ashamed

Why do all of us that you consider liberal socialist POS have to live in a country based on freedom, freedoms of choice being high on the list, have to be subjected to the uptight, narrow minded opinions on morality of the conservatives, who would benefit greatly by removing the stick out of their butts!!?? Why do you care if someone wants to get high on it or not? Some choose to drink wine to get intoxicated, want to ban that too just in case??? After all there are proven health benefits to drinking red wine too. Conservatives just amaze me. You don't want freedom, you want something similar to a dictatorship!
 
We would have already legalized the extracts as well as every other form of medical marijuana if it wasn't for the backwards morons like yourself voting against it.

Your logic is ridiculously warped. You acknowledge that marijuana has medical benefits but you'd vote against it being legalized. Meanwhile you'd probably vote for recreational legalization, yet your primary reasoning for voting against MMJ is that its a ruse to get recreational pot legalized, which you say you don't have a problem with.

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When did we vote on it?
 
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Why do all of us that you consider liberal socialist POS have to live in a country based on freedom, freedoms of choice being high on the list, have to be subjected to the uptight, narrow minded opinions on morality of the conservatives, who would benefit greatly by removing the stick out of their butts!!?? Why do you care if someone wants to get high on it or not? Some choose to drink wine to get intoxicated, want to ban that too just in case??? After all there are proven health benefits to drinking red wine too. Conservatives just amaze me. You don't want freedom, you want something similar to a dictatorship!
you are making a lot of generalizations , just not much sense. I am just not sure you know the difference between liberal , conservative and socialist.
 
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you are making a lot of generalizations , just not much sense. I am just not sure you know the difference between liberal , conservative and socialist.

Yeah, I tend to go all over the place sometimes, my mind starts spinning and I have a difficult time conveying my point, sorry for that. My general point though was, why is that conservatives want to control everything people do?

I don't break laws but I also do not need laws to do things that are right for ME and do not harm others as well. I realize there are plenty of numb-nuts out there that need laws, thus the reason we have them, but when it comes to what you put in YOUR body or do to YOUR body why do they care what someone does? I get it with abortion because I see that as being the baby's body and I don't want to argue that one right now but if someone wants to smoke weed all dang day, that is their choice.

Liberals tend to want freedom of choice for people, as long as no harm is being brought to another, conservatives (from observing their actions and what the b*tch about the most) want to control everyone and be the moral police, (oh and love THEIR money too) and socialism is, from what I understand, about people working together to accomplish things. I am sure I am wrong and you will gladly point out the error of my thinking. :) xo
 
You were right. Liberals are all about freedom of choice... as long as you choose what they want you to choose.
I've actually found that to be true with people who volunteer to identify as being "A Liberal" AND those who claim to be "A Conservative."
That's actually a perfect example of why people should avoid these stupid labels. Liberals AND Conservatives, scratch that... Liberty-minded people would be all for Freedom of Choice as long as it doesn't infringe on another person, even if that choice is the choice they themselves would not make. Not being threatened by another's choice is better. Is there a group that champions such an idea? It's not liberals or conservatives.
 
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You were right. Liberals are all about freedom of choice... as long as you choose what they want you to choose.

ummmm, no buckwheat, that is called conservatives...Liberals want people to be able to choose what they want for themselves, liberals believe in true freedom, the freedom we are SUPPOSE to have in this country.

Conservatives seem to mix up the gun issue and believe liberals want to take the guns away, not true- They want better screenings and background checks especially at gunshows (where I KNOW FOR A FACT crap gets sold without checking any-damn-thing~!!!)

Conservatives believe liberals want everything to be given to everyone for free, not true- they want people to be able to earn a fair wage so they can take care of their family without assistance, those who want to sit on their butt and suck in the gov teet are a whole different problem. Some people actually NEED help and that is different. We are not too stupid around here that we cannot figure out how to weed out the moochers. Here in SC Nikki Haley has figured out how to do it.

Conservatives want to be the moral police... whose morals? THEIRS only!

that is for starters......
 
I've actually found that to be true with people who volunteer to identify as being "A Liberal." That's actually a perfect example of why people should avoid these stupid labels. Liberals AND Conservatives, scratch that... Liberty-minded people would be all for Freedom of Choice as long as it doesn't infringe on another person, even if that choice is the choice they themselves would not make. Not being threatened by another's choice is better. Is there a group that champions such an idea? It's not liberals or conservatives.

perhaps I am confusing the extreme nuts on each wing of the debacle but I speak about people kind of not so extreme. I agree the labels are ridiculous and stupid.
 
I've actually found that to be true with people who volunteer to identify as being "A Liberal" AND those who claim to be "A Conservative."
That's actually a perfect example of why people should avoid these stupid labels. Liberals AND Conservatives, scratch that... Liberty-minded people would be all for Freedom of Choice as long as it doesn't infringe on another person, even if that choice is the choice they themselves would not make. Not being threatened by another's choice is better. Is there a group that champions such an idea? It's not liberals or conservatives.
I never said conservatives don't do it as well. You're right it happens on both sides. It annoys me a little when people try to act like it doesn't happen on both the left and the right. That's just being naïve.
 
Conservatives believe liberals want everything to be given to everyone for free, not true- they want people to be able to earn a fair wage so they can take care of their family without assistance, those who want to sit on their butt and suck in the gov teet are a whole different problem. Some people actually NEED help and that is different. We are not too stupid around here that we cannot figure out how to weed out the moochers. Here in SC Nikki Haley has figured out how to do it.
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But who the hell are you to declare what is and what is not "fair"?
 
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ummmm, no buckwheat, that is called conservatives...Liberals want people to be able to choose what they want for themselves, liberals believe in true freedom, the freedom we are SUPPOSE to have in this country.

Conservatives seem to mix up the gun issue and believe liberals want to take the guns away, not true- They want better screenings and background checks especially at gunshows (where I KNOW FOR A FACT crap gets sold without checking any-damn-thing~!!!)

Conservatives believe liberals want everything to be given to everyone for free, not true- they want people to be able to earn a fair wage so they can take care of their family without assistance, those who want to sit on their butt and suck in the gov teet are a whole different problem. Some people actually NEED help and that is different. We are not too stupid around here that we cannot figure out how to weed out the moochers. Here in SC Nikki Haley has figured out how to do it.

Conservatives want to be the moral police... whose morals? THEIRS only!

that is for starters......
tl;dr

See my response to strum.
 
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ummmm, no buckwheat, that is called conservatives...Liberals want people to be able to choose what they want for themselves, liberals believe in true freedom, the freedom we are SUPPOSE to have in this country.

Conservatives seem to mix up the gun issue and believe liberals want to take the guns away, not true- They want better screenings and background checks especially at gunshows (where I KNOW FOR A FACT crap gets sold without checking any-damn-thing~!!!)

Conservatives believe liberals want everything to be given to everyone for free, not true- they want people to be able to earn a fair wage so they can take care of their family without assistance, those who want to sit on their butt and suck in the gov teet are a whole different problem. Some people actually NEED help and that is different. We are not too stupid around here that we cannot figure out how to weed out the moochers. Here in SC Nikki Haley has figured out how to do it.

Conservatives want to be the moral police... whose morals? THEIRS only!

that is for starters......

Also, thanks for proving my point with your post. Saves me some time.
 
Liberals want freedom to choose? What about the freedom to choose not to bake a cake for a gay couple's wedding? You mean that kind of religious freedom?

Umm that was a gay couple that did that. I believe if you do NOT want to bake a cake for a gay couple simply CLEARLY state it on the door of your business or whatever, and THEN if a gay couple comes in and throws a fit, their problem, they have to leave. I personally would not buy anything from that kind of bakery but they have every right to choose NOT to serve people they are afraid of or go against whatever it is they believe.

I do not believe being gay is a sin or wrong, personally, but everyone in my family just about does... that is their problem, not mine.
 
Umm that was a gay couple that did that. I believe if you do NOT want to bake a cake for a gay couple simply CLEARLY state it on the door of your business or whatever, and THEN if a gay couple comes in and throws a fit, their problem, they have to leave. I personally would not buy anything from that kind of bakery but they have every right to choose NOT to serve people they are afraid of or go against whatever it is they believe.

I do not believe being gay is a sin or wrong, personally, but everyone in my family just about does... that is their problem, not mine.

But that's not what liberals think. They want to force you to have to bake that cake for that gay couple. If you're saying that's not true, you weren't paying attention when all that went down.
 
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Why can't it be done?

It has been many, many years since I have made minimum wage and I make a really good wage now and sometimes I just get by. Of course I could do without a lot of crap I have and don't "need" but..... If I made minimum wage at 40 hours, I could not afford to rent a place for $700 a month, pay for a car, insurance, health insurance, utilities and buy food on that and hope and pray I don't have an unexpected expense in the meantime.
 
But that's not what liberals think. They want to force you to have to bake that cake for that gay couple. If you're saying that's not true, you weren't paying attention when all that went down.

no, no, no, that is not what all liberals think... that is labeling.. just like I labeled all conservatives as essentially being heartless a-holes.... I do not think they all are but I was attempting to show how labeling people that way is really stupid! I know plenty of "liberals/democrats" who do not agree with that gay-cake issue so it is not all liberals.
 
no, no, no, that is not what all liberals think... that is labeling.. just like I labeled all conservatives as essentially being heartless a-holes.... I do not think they all are but I was attempting to show how labeling people that way is really stupid! I know plenty of "liberals/democrats" who do not agree with that gay-cake issue so it is not all liberals.

In fact, two of my best friends friends are gay men and they do not agree with that cake issue thing either!
 
It has been many, many years since I have made minimum wage and I make a really good wage now and sometimes I just get by. Of course I could do without a lot of crap I have and don't "need" but..... If I made minimum wage at 40 hours, I could not afford to rent a place for $700 a month, pay for a car, insurance, health insurance, utilities and buy food on that and hope and pray I don't have an unexpected expense in the meantime.

Then get a roommate and sell your car. Get rid of cable. You don't need a cell phone. Water and electricity are cheap if you're efficient. Grow your own food or hunt it. Hey, here's an idea...be resourceful.
 
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no, no, no, that is not what all liberals think... that is labeling.. just like I labeled all conservatives as essentially being heartless a-holes.... I do not think they all are but I was attempting to show how labeling people that way is really stupid! I know plenty of "liberals/democrats" who do not agree with that gay-cake issue so it is not all liberals.

Ok, maybe not all liberals. Just all the ones I know and the ones I don't know.
 
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Then get a roommate and sell your car. Get rid of cable. You don't need a cell phone. Water and electricity are cheap if you're efficient. Grow your own food or hunt it. Hey, here's an idea...be resourceful.

see you are assuming all people on minimum wage do that. Yes, some do it, but I know quite a few who do not have fancy smart phones and do not have nice new cars and have roommates, etc. You have no clue what it is like for someone to live on minimum wage. I cannot say I know either but I can sympathize with them and know from the contacts I do have through work, church, etc. that there are those who really struggle and are not mooching.
 
Then get a roommate and sell your car. Get rid of cable. You don't need a cell phone. Water and electricity are cheap if you're efficient. Grow your own food or hunt it. Hey, here's an idea...be resourceful.

Ya - I'm all for trying to make sure that people are above living in poverty, but people's definition of poverty is warped. Sorry if I don't get all emotional that they guy making $11/hr for taking 20 minutes to do a shitty job at giving me a wrong order at a fast food joint can't splurge for the sport package on his new car, and will have to settle with the standard version to park in his two car garage while playing on his smart phone.
 
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see you are assuming all people on minimum wage do that. Yes, some do it, but I know quite a few who do not have fancy smart phones and do not have nice new cars and have roommates, etc. You have no clue what it is like for someone to live on minimum wage. I cannot say I know either but I can sympathize with them and know from the contacts I do have through work, church, etc. that there are those who really struggle and are not mooching.

You're new here so I'll cut you some slack for not knowing what I do for a living. Ask anyone here. They've had to read my self congratulatory poasts here for years. I think you'll find that I do indeed have my finger on the pulse of the poor - at least in my community. And as far as those gaming the system. Whatever percentage you think that is, double it and then you'll be close.
 
Ya - I'm all for trying to make sure that people are above living in poverty, but people's definition of poverty is warped. Sorry if I don't get all emotional that they guy making $11/hr for taking 20 minutes to do a shitty job at giving me a wrong order at a fast food joint can't splurge for the sport package on his new car, and will have to settle with the standard version to park in his two car garage while playing on his smart phone.

see? not everyone working in fast food is like that though. I don't eat at places like that but I know some who do work there and not all of them are leeches on society. I know those people are out there but there are ways to take care of the moochers and still allow others to live out of poverty.
 
You're new here so I'll cut you some slack for not knowing what I do for a living. Ask anyone here. They've had to read my self congratulatory poasts here for years. I think you'll find that I do indeed have my finger on the pulse of the poor - at least in my community. And as far as those gaming the system. Whatever percentage you think that is, double it and then you'll be close.

I don't need you to cut me slack... personally, you do not bother me... you're typical, I am never, ever shocked by anything you say or any opinion you have, trust me.. I usually know what you're gonna say before you even say it.

Maybe your community sucks and you have tons and tons of moochers there and are not smarter than they are and allow them to take advantage of your system... sorry but that is not everywhere. In SC they are taking the people gaming the system to court and making them pay it all back now... no jail time, paying it back!!!! They HAVE TO pay it back, no other options! They are busting people left and right here over the food stamp and welfare fraud! They make those who apply for welfare WORK to get a measly $100 a month!
 
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I never said conservatives don't do it as well. You're right it happens on both sides. It annoys me a little when people try to act like it doesn't happen on both the left and the right. That's just being naïve.
That's my whole point of how these labels, and claiming to be one or the other, are just traps. And, they wind-up restricting our overall progress as a society of people. When you remove those labels from the conversation, or narrative, then the common ground becomes abundantly clear and you realize that everyone wants the same outcome. When you insert the labels, everyone fights about one being worse than the other and the condition is basically ignored.
 
Maybe your community sucks and you have tons and tons of moochers there and are not smarter than they are and allow them to take advantage of your system... sorry but that is not everywhere. In SC they are taking the people gaming the system to court and making them pay it all back now... no jail time, paying it back!!!! They HAVE TO pay it back, no other options! They are busting people left and right here over the food stamp and welfare fraud! They make those who apply for welfare WORK to get a measly $100 a month!

Amen to that. SC seems to be doing it right. I'm chuckling at the thought of that even being brought up for a vote here in Massachusetts. The overwhelming majority of bleeding heart libs up here would crucify the poor soul that brought that idea up (but wouldn't call it crucifying because they wouldn't want to offend other religions).
 
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