If Garcia did commit all three of the bigs would get starter type minutes. I would hope that a huge factor with these kids that are being recruited is also for them wanting to be on a team that has a very realistic chance of being a Final Four contender. Winning exposure goes a long way
Marquette PF/C Dawson Garcia
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If Hubs lands Garcia... The stable will be stacked next season. He won't be lacking in the talent.
His coaching abilities will be the focus even more. I just hope Leaky isn't starting.
His coaching abilities will be the focus even more. I just hope Leaky isn't starting.
Apologies- we can't all be Kafkaesque like you.
Child please, go back to face book so the whole world can know the brand of toilet paper you prefer...You really are not worth my time or effort to even as much as acknowledge. But 1 hint for you before I dismiss you, AAU programs are run by AAU coaches and any fan of the college game that prefers their beloved college team to be run like an AAU program is in seriously more need of those meds you refer to!
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Yep. We'll still need some people to turn corners, but surely at least a few of them will.
If either Caleb or RJ makes a big improvement, we are solid at PG (because the other one will still be a really good backup).
If any of several guys steps up and Kerwin doesn't backslide, we'll be killer at SG, too.
SF may look like our shakiest position, but on a team with better shooting, even a little improvement there could be good enough.
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Ready..... GO!
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I actually do not see Garcia as being similar to Manek, Garcia played both back to the basket as well as facing out to the 3pt arch. Dawson, in my view is more what I would call a stretch 5 where Manek is more a stretch 4. What I mean by that is I would prefer to not see Manek have to play at the 5 at all, unless it was an emergency situation, foul trouble or injury. I would very much like to see Manek and Dawson playing together with Dawson at the 5. If we are able to get Dawson and his being on campus makes me feel VERY GOOD about our chances, I would think he would start for us at the 4 with Bacot at the 5 with all 3 getting well over 20mins a game.
I watched Bacot get so much better last season and to me the real driving motivation in that was Bacot realizing just how talented Sharpe and Kessler were so he had to work harder than ever to hold them off and get his minutes. Not the worst thing to have Manek and Dawson have a similar realization.
We'll definitely get to see the similarities to RW in his coaching philosophies and decisions.
I think the chances of both Caleb AND RJ not improving significantly are almost zero! I fully expect both to be orders of magnitude better! I saw them improve by a bunch during the season so I expect it to continue! Wing is loaded so anybody who is shaky will soon be stacking splinters! Leaky will be the starter day 1, but if he displays the same level of hesitant play he will see his minutes dwindle swiftly. Hubs is not Roy and he can't afford to stick with a guy but so long. I think it will be a great thing if someone like Puff steps up and earns the starting nod over Leaky for two reasons:
1. It will mean that person has improved a great deal
2. Leaky is the type to be fine coming off the bench because it is less pressure and he is a team first guy!
BTW: If we get Garcia (fingers crossed) one thing that will determine if he or Manek starts is their personalities. Which one would sulk or be disheartened by not starting has to be considered by coaches just like other factors like shooting, etc. (this is why Withdrew stayed the starter for so long IMO)
1. It will mean that person has improved a great deal
2. Leaky is the type to be fine coming off the bench because it is less pressure and he is a team first guy!
BTW: If we get Garcia (fingers crossed) one thing that will determine if he or Manek starts is their personalities. Which one would sulk or be disheartened by not starting has to be considered by coaches just like other factors like shooting, etc. (this is why Withdrew stayed the starter for so long IMO)
Wow, somebody look up and make sure there are no Rascals rolling around on window ledges.
Wow. This guy could be your neighbor.
After 4 years of starting at Ok, Manek might be alright with being the first guy off the bench at the 4 (sliding Garcia to the 5 if Mando comes out)?
I still don't think any coach at UNC promises starting spots but if Coach spoke with Manek during the Garcia re-recruitment and got his buy in, it might go a long way.
I still don't think any coach at UNC promises starting spots but if Coach spoke with Manek during the Garcia re-recruitment and got his buy in, it might go a long way.
I bet you're missing that NIL discussion now.
Dawson Garcia logs into THR to see what UNC fans think about his potential commitment to the school:
I certainly agree Garcia can play the 5 more efficiently then Manek, I also think that is not his preference though. They are not identical, but their strengths seem to be in the same area. If they are on the court together I agree it probably will be Manek playing more of the preferred role then Dawson. I think that will play a role in his final decision. Hopefully it won't be the deciding factor.
Mando did have talented bigs to practice and compete with last year, that is certainly helpful. I also think his improvement was fairly typical for a freshman to sophmore bump though. I think he has another bump this year even without the level of bigs in practice to work against.
There again is that sharp wit and clever sense of humor we’ve come to expect from you.
Yes, we do need to see some guys turn the corner as you say and absolutely Caleb and RJ are 2 of them, I would add Puff and Ant turning the corner would be very helpful as well. But the position we most need a strong uptick from is the PG spot and yes, that is Caleb and RJ.
Now follow me on this, I am the guy saying that I believe we have 2 ACC first teamers next season in Bacot and Love (and if you are ACC 1st team you have a real shot at the NCAA AA teams). Gonna focus more on Caleb for this, RJ will benefit a lot from this as well.
I am going to just mention now that you do always expect a much improved soph season from our players and the reasons why are easy to explain and will be glad to if anyone wants to discuss why. But soph bump aside, Hubert is focused on clearing out the paint, not allowing it to be as congested as what we watched last season. From what I have seen, if Love has a driving angle in to the lane and it is not congested, he is really strong at finishing over or around most any defender.
Hubert is doing 2 important things to lessen the congestion in the lane, first he has gone to power forwards that are deadly outside shooters (as well as guys that should make our secondary breaks really zing). We can pull our 4 out to the 3pt arch, a defender has to respect them from that distance so the other teams power forward has to leave the lane. IN addition, Hubert has placed much more focus on outside shooting, telling our players, you better put up a 1,000 jumpers a day because we are going to rely on your ability to hit outside jumpers so that your defender can not leave you to double a driver headed in to the paint. So Love driving the paint will get less defensive doubling, more ops to finish 1 on 1. If they do drop an additional defender on him then he knows, we have a wide open spot up shooter that will make the open take, find him. That plays directly in to Caleb's strength and dramatically lessens him having to fall back on parts of his game that are not as strong as his ability to drive and use that 7ftr reach to finish at the rim.
Frankly, I would hate to be an opposing coach and have to find a way to defend that, just to many length mismatches and multiple guys that can shoot really well. We can put lineups on the floor where all 5 guys are deadly 3pt shooting threats and Dawson would make that even deadlier.
Not sure why blowhards keep repeating this crap. I make $15 an hour and received a tax cut.
With Dawson, I don't think he has a problem with playing at times as a back to the basket 5, he just wants to be able to use his face up game and not feel stuck down low for most of his PT. In my suggested line up he would spent much if not most of his time as a face up 4 or 5 and I think he will be fine with that.
If he gets Garcia, and has ALL that kind of talent... and, then sticks Leaky Black out there as a starter because "he's a senior", then we know how much Roy's obsolete traits have worn-off on Hubert.
...something that actually happens more than message board mavens like to acknowledge.Dawson Garcia logs into THR to see what UNC fans think about his potential commitment to the school:
On a good news note, DG is on campus as we speak, so hopefully he won't have time for social media...
Certainly can fit. I think Mando logging major minutes is key to his interest. At Marquette Theo John was the 5, but was often in foul trouble, and Garcia played more 5 then he preferred. I do not think Garcia is looking for a place with extended minutes at the 5. He can do it, but not what he is looking for.
I do think he likes UNC, I just think he is a little weary of having too many minutes with Manek. I would think playing off of Mando is very appealing to him tnough. Kid has options, and I think we can be a good fit for his game.
Actually Todd, think about it, even when Garcia would be in with Manek and Garcia be our 5, still does not mean he is primarily a back to the basket 5. I LOVE the notion that BOTH he and Manek could step out to the 3 area and leave a wide open lane for Caleb to drive in to! Can you not just see, Manek stepping way out and Garcia engaging in a pick & roll game with Love? That is the kind of stuff the NBA really turns their head for!
Todd, while we can never really know, I suspect that the process he is now engaged in (looking at college teams to join) is a strong indicator that he is looking to pull out of the draft in the next couple days unless he gets a guarantee and I would think that would have already been given to him if it was likely to happen. He is not visiting other college programs now thinking he will stay in the draft. Could that change tomorrow, sure, will have to wait till tomorrow to see if it does.
He is on an official visit
Marquette Transfer Dawson Garcia Visiting North Carolina
The Big East All-Freshman forward entered the transfer portal last week.247sports.com
He's the one I wanted all along!
And, to me, he has the ability to play the #3 or #4; be the player Kessler thought he was but isn't.
Look at his game tape when they played UNC @home folks.
Seeing is believing!
Kofi Cockburn just entered the portal, can't see Garcia going there and getting stuck as the starting 5. JMHO
Yeah, that is not a good look, especially when Garcia is looking at them hard as a landing spot! It may eliminate them and I like that thought!
AGREED, and if reports of Kofi Cockburn going to portal are correct Garcia would be the 5 man at Illinois. I think this bodes well for Carolina if true.
I am almost certain he will pull his name from this years draft. That does not eliminate the G League option though. If he chooses G League he would play on the, I think it is called the Ignite team, and still be eligible for next year's draft.
He would play the 4 and some 3 there for sure, almost exclusively. I agree, I think he is weighing the best options for next years draft, as it was the G League elite camp, not the draft combine he attended.
I agree Cockburn leaving makes that less desirable I would imagine. I think they have the talented big Euro kid still, but he is a versatile type big as well.
I just checked he declared for the draft too. He is gone and will probably play in Europe professionally this year. The cupboard is bare there for big men.
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I agree but I’m more interested in what differences he brings to the court.
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