OOTB's Political Thread . ..

[randman1]

The new normal? Democrats make up fake charges against their opponents to illegally interfere with elections.

Another Weaponized Political Attack: MI AG Dana Nessel Appoints Special Prosecutor to Investigate Her GOP Opponent Weeks Before Election - But Ignores Election Fraud and COVID Nursing Home Murders | The Gateway Pundit | by Brian Lupo

The Michigan Attorney General now joins in with DC Supreme Chancellor Joe Biden in weaponizing her office against her political opponent in the November election.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[randman1]

" I hereby declassify the remaining materials in the binder. This is my final determination under the declassification review and I have directed the Attorney General to implement the redactions proposed in the FBI’s January 17 submission and return to the White House an appropriately redacted copy."

Memorandum on Declassification of Certain Materials Related to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation – The White House

trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov

 

[prlyles]

" I hereby declassify the remaining materials in the binder. This is my final determination under the declassification review and I have directed the Attorney General to implement the redactions proposed in the FBI’s January 17 submission and return to the White House an appropriately redacted copy."

Memorandum on Declassification of Certain Materials Related to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation – The White House

trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov

What’s your point?

 

[Heels Noir]

There are tens of thousands who disagree as well. The claims of consensus were always BS.

Let's see, tens of thousands of exceptionally qualified scientists, many with PhDs, versus tens of thousands of doubters with a limited education who have been brainwashed by equally ignorant truthers.

I think I'll go with the trained scientists.

 

[carolinablue34]

The new normal? Democrats make up fake charges against their opponents to illegally interfere with elections.

Another Weaponized Political Attack: MI AG Dana Nessel Appoints Special Prosecutor to Investigate Her GOP Opponent Weeks Before Election - But Ignores Election Fraud and COVID Nursing Home Murders | The Gateway Pundit | by Brian Lupo

The Michigan Attorney General now joins in with DC Supreme Chancellor Joe Biden in weaponizing her office against her political opponent in the November election.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Get yourself a better website than the gateway pundit. Talk about a site for the sole purpose of helping right wing conspiracy types jerk off all day. Lol.

 

[bluetoe]

this is always a good time

 

[prlyles]

Let's see, tens of thousands of exceptionally qualified scientists, many with PhDs, versus tens of thousands of doubters with a limited education who have been brainwashed by equally ignorant truthers.

In other words, Trump supporters……

 

[Heels Noir]

In other words, Trump supporters……

Yes, especially the “limited education” part.

 

[carolinablue34]

I have to assume that you're so emotionally wrapped up in issues that you can't think straight. Maybe you've forgotten that it was YOU who was roundly mocked for not understanding the simple concept of 'normal'. Nothing I have said indicates to anyone in their right mind that I conflate normal with different. Normal (usual) is normal. Abnormal (UNusual) is not. See how simple that is? There are inherent negative connotations built in to our perception of abnormal things just because from an evolutionary POV, being leery of what we are not used to seeing and not being comfortable with helped...and helps...us survive.

But then, maybe you just misspoke.


I have no idea what the small, loud, fringe movement is trying to accomplish beyond selfishly trying to bend the rest of us to their will. Beyond that, I don't give a shit. I think you're too emotionally engaged to settle for acceptance, and I believe that YOU conflate acceptance with accommodation such that your call for acceptance is actually a call for accommodation. I have no problem with acceptance as I have pointed out time and again, but when we start accommodating the fringes just for their emotional neediness, it's time to say 'just grow the fvck up' and stop pestering us.

Somebody might for all I know be stupidly trying to change the nature of being human, but trust me, all I have been concerned with is my own understanding of human nature and how more people should take interest in it.


I have little doubt that that is why religion...such as it is...came to be. But we seek out purpose (I don't) either because of an actual connection with a higher existence, or because we have highly developed areas of the brain that make us far more capable of self-awareness and self-reflection than the other animals. Take your pick. I'm agnostic, so I choose both. Or neither. Or one or the other. I generally chuckle when I hear someone ask 'why are we here?' or 'what is our purpose?'. Humans sometimes are just smart enough to ask unanswerable questions. I know that the answers to all questions are unknowable.

Contrary to what you think, I only seek acceptance. Not a ballroom celebration. In principle, people aren't special for traits they are born with. I'm no different.

What other accommodation could I ask for? Other than being able to make my own choices, change the legal gender marker on my papers, and not be assaulted physically/discriminated against. My question is, what do you consider to be an unnecessary accommodation?

As to your last point, little to disagree with. We're all just winging it. Who the hell knows why we're here.

 

[randman1]

Yes, especially the “limited education” part.

Like this guy?

" Richard Lindzen is a dynamical meteorologist with interests in the broad topics of climate, planetary waves, monsoon meteorology, planetary atmospheres, and hydrodynamic instability. His research involves studies of the role of the tropics in mid-latitude weather and global heat transport, the moisture budget and its role in global change, the origins of ice ages, seasonal effects in atmospheric transport, stratospheric waves, and the observational determination of climate sensitivity. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books. From 1983, when he joined the faculty at MIT, until he retired in 2013, he was Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology."

Lindzen, Richard S. | MIT Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences

Richard Lindzen is a dynamical meteorologist with interests in the broad topics of climate, planetary waves, monsoon meteorology, planetary atmospheres, and hydrodynamic instability. His research involves studies of the role of the tropics in mid-latitude weather and global heat transport, the...

eapsweb.mit.edu

 

[randman1]

Contrary to what you think, I only seek acceptance. Not a ballroom celebration. In principle, people aren't special for traits they are born with. I'm no different.

What other accommodation could I ask for? Other than being able to make my own choices, change the legal gender marker on my papers, and not be assaulted physically/discriminated against. My question is, what do you consider to be an unnecessary accommodation?

As to your last point, little to disagree with. We're all just winging it. Who the hell knows why we're here.

" My question is, what do you consider to be an unnecessary accommodation?"

How about insisting an individual can be referred to as they/them; that men can have babies; that's it's fair to force females to compete athletically against males; that all children should be groomed to see if they can be gender confused in an effort to "evangelize" them to the new trans-faith.

Btw, I take it you are transgender after all? Female to wanting to be male or what?

 

[randman1]

Get yourself a better website than the gateway pundit. Talk about a site for the sole purpose of helping right wing conspiracy types jerk off all day. Lol.

They've been incredibly accurate for years unlike the NYTs, NPR, Pravda on the Potomac and the rest.

 

[randman1]

Some of the new forms of transgenders are considerable numbers of girls insisting they are actually really dolls, and she/her/doll are their pronouns. Others that they are a dog and various other self-gender identities, all due to promoting gender dysphoria among children and the youth.

 

[randman1]

Justified or not?

CITIZEN FREE PRESS

The Greatest News Site On The Internet. Home of CFP Nation.

citizenfreepress.com

 

[carolinablue34]

They've been incredibly accurate for years unlike the NYTs, NPR, Pravda on the Potomac and the rest.

They’re insane and pander to the tin foil hat wearers. Speaking of which, where’s yours?

 

[carolinablue34]

" My question is, what do you consider to be an unnecessary accommodation?"

How about insisting an individual can be referred to as they/them; that men can have babies; that's it's fair to force females to compete athletically against males; that all children should be groomed to see if they can be gender confused in an effort to "evangelize" them to the new trans-faith.

Btw, I take it you are transgender after all? Female to wanting to be male or what?

1. who cares. The amount of ‘they/thems’ in this world is so minuscule they aren’t even a percentage point of the population.

2. Cis men cannot have babies. This is a fact. No one disputes this. If once in a blue moon, a trans man has a kid, I consider that insignificant.

3. It is probably best for everyone involved not to have trans athletes compete against cis men and women at the collegiate and professional level.

4. The last part is pure nonsense. There is no conspiracy to ‘groom’ children into believing they’re trans. That’s something you deluded yourself into believing. Can’t help ya there, bud. Lol being trans isn’t a freaking religion. That’s your department.

Male to female Mr. Preacher man. Living in sin every day. It gives me great pleasure there’s not a damn thing you can do about it.

 

[carolinablue34]

but the primary problem with your approach (IMO) is that those other theories have not been "proven" anymore concrete than creationism ... it's ALL speculation. so schools should not be teaching any of it.

just like evolution, the Bible has been studied, observed and tested for hundreds (thousands) of years ... the archaeology and scientific discoveries that validate those "fantasies" are mind blowing. but you're welcome to ignore those discoveries, i aint mad at ya.

you do realize that you also seem fearful and ignorant, right? neither of us are ... we just disagree.

The word theory in science is an explanation for a wide range of phenomena that is consistent with all the available evidence. It's akin to saying something is a fact. Or as close as you can get in science to it. Also there are laws. Laws are backed up by a mathematical theory, an example of that being the theory of gravity. Others do not, like germ theory, yet it's just as valid.

Also science remains open to new evidence and can be amended over time based off of that evidence. It allows for the exploration of doubt. But it is something you can quantify, measure, see, and test.

Your claims of archeological confirmation of the Bible really doesn't hold water. Some of it is based on true events, but most is a wide collection of stories that were either borrowed from other cultures ala Sumeria or based on a loose collection of real life events, especially in the Old Testament.

I'm not fearful of being wrong about this. I'm fearful of religious absolutism and ignorance masquerading as actual education. The kind that allows for no exploration, no doubts, and nothing that deviates from 'faith'.

That's the difference here. Your faith is telling you one thing, reality tells us another. You're free to have it. But it's not a license to portray evolution and the big bang as 'theories' that shouldn't be taught to children. That's moronic.

 

[Heels Noir]

Like this guy?

" Richard Lindzen is a dynamical meteorologist with interests in the broad topics of climate, planetary waves, monsoon meteorology, planetary atmospheres, and hydrodynamic instability. His research involves studies of the role of the tropics in mid-latitude weather and global heat transport, the moisture budget and its role in global change, the origins of ice ages, seasonal effects in atmospheric transport, stratospheric waves, and the observational determination of climate sensitivity. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books. From 1983, when he joined the faculty at MIT, until he retired in 2013, he was Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology."

Lindzen, Richard S. | MIT Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences

Richard Lindzen is a dynamical meteorologist with interests in the broad topics of climate, planetary waves, monsoon meteorology, planetary atmospheres, and hydrodynamic instability. His research involves studies of the role of the tropics in mid-latitude weather and global heat transport, the...

eapsweb.mit.edu

I did a very brief Google search on this clown and here is what I found:

Lindzen is a former distinguished senior fellow at the Cato Institute‘s Center for the Study of Science.

The Cato Institute, a conservative think tank where Lindzen has also published numerous articles and studies, has received at least $125,000 from ExxonMobil since 1998. In his 1995 article, “The Heat Is On,” Ross Gelbspan reported Lindzen charged oil and coal organizations $2,500 per day for his consulting services.

In other words, to supplement his earnings as a professor and his retirement, your so-called expert is in bed with the petroleum and coal companies. No wonder he can't own up to the truth. He even argues that the warmer atmosphere by a few degrees is good for mankind since it extends the growing season. WTF?!

All that education wasted. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

 

[toophly1124]

@carolinablue34 get your shit together woman

 

[carolinablue34]

@carolinablue34 get your shit together woman

I'm trying every day without much success.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Male to female Mr. Preacher man. Living in sin every day. It gives me great pleasure there’s not a damn thing you can do about it.

 

[UNC '92]

@carolinablue34 get your shit together woman

 

[gunslingerdick]

Hahahahahah.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

A dude pretending to be a girl just said this:

Your faith is telling you one thing, reality tell us another.

 

[randman1]

1. who cares. The amount of ‘they/thems’ in this world is so minuscule they aren’t even a percentage point of the population.

2. Cis men cannot have babies. This is a fact. No one disputes this. If once in a blue moon, a trans man has a kid, I consider that insignificant.

3. It is probably best for everyone involved not to have trans athletes compete against cis men and women at the collegiate and professional level.

4. The last part is pure nonsense. There is no conspiracy to ‘groom’ children into believing they’re trans. That’s something you deluded yourself into believing. Can’t help ya there, bud. Lol being trans isn’t a freaking religion. That’s your department.

Male to female Mr. Preacher man. Living in sin every day. It gives me great pleasure there’s not a damn thing you can do about it.

Glad to see your honesty. I'd have figured you were female to male.

So the situation is this is too personal for you to consider objectively, correct?

 

[randman1]

I did a very brief Google search on this clown and here is what I found:

Lindzen is a former distinguished senior fellow at the Cato Institute‘s Center for the Study of Science.

The Cato Institute, a conservative think tank where Lindzen has also published numerous articles and studies, has received at least $125,000 from ExxonMobil since 1998. In his 1995 article, “The Heat Is On,” Ross Gelbspan reported Lindzen charged oil and coal organizations $2,500 per day for his consulting services.

In other words, to supplement his earnings as a professor and his retirement, your so-called expert is in bed with the petroleum and coal companies. No wonder he can't own up to the truth. He even argues that the warmer atmosphere by a few degrees is good for mankind since it extends the growing season. WTF?!

All that education wasted. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

More hypocrisy. The guy has long said the same things because the facts are on his side. The really big money stems from the warmers in various governments and non-profits with an agenda.

You guys are the ones taking the money to promote baseless claims like the ingredients of fresh air are pollutants.

 

[randman1]

"
Piers Corbyn - physicist, meteorologist, and elder brother of former UK Labor Party leader Jeremy Corbyn - explained to the shocked RT anchor that the climate "has always been changing, but this has nothing to do with man"

The astrophysicist instead believes that changes in the Earth’s climate and its weather are dictated primarily by cyclical activity on the surface of the sun (and not, pointedly, by the effects of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere).

“For one thing science doesn’t do settled opinions,” Corbyn says.
“And for another they are all wrong.”

"Surely man has something to with this," exclaims the struggling new anchor, to which Corbyn responds:

"No, the only connection is that man is here at the same time as the sun and the moon are doing things."

The frustrated anchor falls back to consensus, asking "so how come then that so many climate change scientists disagree with you and they get so much support for that?"

Corbyn's laughing response was straightforward:

"...those that say this are just trying to make money... They're on a gravy train for heaven's sake."

"Nothing To Do With Man" - Astrophysicist Says Climate-Cultists "Are On A Gravy Train" To Make Money | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[Heels Noir]

More hypocrisy. Blah, blah. blah . . .

Dude, you wouldn't know hypocrisy if it hit you upside the head. Like it just did.

 

[Archer2]

Justified or not?

CITIZEN FREE PRESS

The Greatest News Site On The Internet. Home of CFP Nation.

citizenfreepress.com

Completely justified.

 

[Archer2]

Dude, you wouldn't know hypocrisy if it hit you upside the head. Like it just did.

Says one of the biggest hypocrites on the board. Your whole Squad is nothing but hypocrites. It’s the definition of today’s Democratic politician.

 

[Archer2]

I hope Americans never forget this day, the innocent lives that were lost and the heroism that was on display by so many. R.I.P.

 

[Heels Noir]

Says one of the biggest hypocrites on the board. Your whole Squad is nothing but hypocrites. It’s the definition of today’s Democratic politician.

When you go out in the woods to hunt big game like chipmunks and songbirds in your skirt and with your toy bow and arrow, do the animals of the forest tremble with fear or laugh at you? I'll bet it's the latter.

 

[bluetoe]

Completely justified.

two points

1) unless there was some justification for the one guy sucker punching the other guy, I wouldn't convict the sucker-punched guy (assuming that was him doing the shooting).

2) I'd do Sabrina

 

[heelmanwilm]

So trump made an unannounced flight to Dulles from New Jersey. It was evidently so rushed he was still in golf attire including shoes when he exited the plane. All kinds of speculation over the reason. I’m going with DC McDonald’s have the McRib.

 

[gunslingerdick]

So trump made an unannounced flight to Dulles from New Jersey. It was evidently so rushed he was still in golf attire including shoes when he exited the plane. All kinds of speculation over the reason. I’m going with DC McDonald’s have the McRib.

Nah. I'm going with "to incite another insurrection". But this time it's not with Proud Boys and Oathkeepers. This time it's regular ol dads. Guys who golf on the weekends and just want to get away from their wives for a while. They're going to bumrush the Capitol with 7-irons and soft spikes. Mich Ultra has decided to sponsor the insurrection.

 

[uncfootball-]

So trump made an unannounced flight to Dulles from New Jersey. It was evidently so rushed he was still in golf attire including shoes when he exited the plane. All kinds of speculation over the reason. I’m going with DC McDonald’s have the McRib.

He had a deal to sell some Nuclear Codes to some fellow named Billy Bob that works third shift at the Pilot Travel Center off I-95 on exit 10.

 

[pooponduke]

So trump made an unannounced flight to Dulles from New Jersey. It was evidently so rushed he was still in golf attire including shoes when he exited the plane. All kinds of speculation over the reason. I’m going with DC McDonald’s have the McRib.

There is a ton of speculation that this was an arrest or to turn himself in, but that would seem contrary to the judge's order that all investigation stop until the issue of the special master is sorted out. The appeal of that matter will be decided shortly so an arrest or indictment would seem premature. That being said, I have no idea why he went to Dulles, so the McRib theory is as good as any. We'll know for certain if Slick Willie suddenly deplanes in DC.

 

[uncfootball-]

There is a ton of speculation that this was an arrest or to turn himself in, but that would seem contrary to the judge's order that all investigation stop until the issue of the special master is sorted out. The appeal of that matter will be decided shortly so an arrest or indictment would seem premature. That being said, I have no idea why he went to Dulles, so the McRib theory is as good as any. We'll know for certain if Slick Willie suddenly deplanes in DC.

Mainstream media is slacking off today.. not much on this story..lol

 

[bluetoe]

For the record. The last thing I want to be is a hypocrite. I seriously hate a hypocrite. I have claimed that I have nothing against anyone being what they want to be and I meant it. Others here have said the same thing.

If @carolinablue34 wants to be a woman, who gives a shit? That's her right, and I respect that right. I can still disagree vehemently with her views or the views of other transgenders (I'm not going to try to keep up with any weird pronouns) or mock those views mercilessly and her for expressing them, but you won't catch me belittling her for what she is. There is no doubt a crazy and unnecessary amount of gender confusion being propagated and promulgated by the usual leftist idiots and virtue signalers who always take the current issues and go overboard with them, but I don't believe there is any confusion here on her part. Sometimes the hardware and the software for whatever reason just don't gee and haw, and if someone can find themselves in that situation and manage to find peace with it, more power to them.

In fact, having the views of a transgender person expressed here only makes this place more interesting. She ( I'm assuming her preferred self-reference) is in a minority here and in the world at large. We have a tendency to pile on those who aren't like us or express views that we don't share, and that isn't always a good thing. We also have a tendency to attack the messenger instead of the message and that is definitely a bullshit thing.

One thing I think that needs to be understood is that there are hard biological facts that can't be disputed, but there are also biological misfires. Who's to blame? Then there are the cultural and societal influences that help make us what we are and that cause us to accept or not accept the elements that our society is made of. I have no objection at all to any decent, peaceful, and law-abiding element. But I will generally accept them but oppose the promotion of those elements that are not normal and therefor arguably unhealthy. For example, if one is homosexual, I can be a friend with no judgement and no problem. I don't care for homosexuality but I don't hate homosexual individuals. But if that friend marries another gay person and wants to adopt a child and expose that child to a gay lifestyle, I am firmly against it and will oppose it with my vote if I can. I understand the need for acceptance but I don't want to be part of a society where half the people I meet are gay or transgender or whatever the f Heels Noir is.

Just saying. Please carry on.

 

[bluetoe]

Mainstream media is slacking off today.. not much on this story..lol

it takes time to craft a narrative that irrationally condemns, or insinuates some negative, but at the same time creates a backup rationalization for getting it wrong when that turns out to be the case. Journalism is so much more complex than it used to be.

 

[Heels Noir]

whatever the f Heels Noir is.

I'm obviously the source of your obsession.