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Apple Gives Deep State Access To Roger Stone’s iCloud Account, After Refusing To Violate Privacy of San Bernardino Terrorists
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...violate-privacy-of-san-bernardino-terrorists/
I've never been a big fan of Apple or their overpriced garbage, but I'll never buy another Apple product as long as I live.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...violate-privacy-of-san-bernardino-terrorists/
I've never been a big fan of Apple or their overpriced garbage, but I'll never buy another Apple product as long as I live.
Hardliners are never honest about this. My life has been pretty great under Bush, Obama, and now Trump.
It's interesting how people characterize the eras. It's as if those guys are "Kings." As I said before, we aren't very long removed from monarchies.
I don't mean to imply that I believe you consciously view your life in chapters based on who was president. You're not the only one, and as it pertains to the thread, at this point, it makes sense, I guess.
I don't define my life like that at all. I was just talking to his point. Long ago I quit worrying about who was in power and focused on what was actually happened. Rather than get angry about a certain policy, I just tried to figure out how it hurt/helped me and went from there.
I think it actually speaks to how our ability to self-govern has really taken hold and can be relied on to run things. That presidential office could be run on auto-pilot with a few exceptions, almost a token figurehead for people to focus their anger on while the aspects of government that really affect them carry on.
There are exceptions, of course. A close friend of mine came close to losing-out big time on the recent government shutdown. No need to go into details, but it was really lucky for him that it finally "reopened", temporarily.
The President is more figure head than ever these days, but perhaps more powerful now with the 24/7 access. People make a lot of decisions based on emotions and the last 3 Presidents we had have been increasingly more polarizing. I am not so sure that is a good thing. Can we go back to an adult?
As for your friend, that sucks. I am in the same boat. I lost a ton of money on this shut down, but I consider it a cost of doing business when I accept the contract. Every deal has it's risks.
He was trying to get his pawn shop opened. And, the licenses and clearance and inspections for that are endless. Federal this and that at every turn.
The polarities are concerning. People believing they are always one OR the other, all the time... I don't get it.
This story may be 100% on the up and up but I wouldn't trust your source as far as could throw them.
I get that, but let's think it out. We already know that they refused to turn over the information of the San Bernandino terrorist, that's been well documented. So, the other part of this is if Apple has turned over Stone's information. Do you think that happened or no?
Get out your popcorn:
What most Anti Trump people fail to grasp is he is far from a "politician." He is for the country as a whole and party be damned. He is also pragmatic enough to understand that what's good for America isn't always good for EVERYONE because everyone has differing opinions of success and failure.
Pulling out of NAFTA, The Iranian Nuclear Deal, TPP, The Dumb as a bag of Rocks Paris Climate Accord, The IMF Treaty with Russia, Cutting aid to countries who support violent radical terrorists, Making America the leading EXPORTER of energy to the World, Getting the largest Tax Cut for all Americans passed, Lowering The Unemployment rates to all time lows for Hispanic and Black Americans, Appointing Women to Major positions in the Gvmt, Meeting with the Leader of N Korea, and when was the last time they shot off missiles over Japan may I ask? Negotiating from a position or power instead of weakness and leading from behind. Making our NATO members pay their fair share, Placed sanctions on Russian officials, Putting Severe Sanctions on Iran, Supported Israel by Establishing Jerusalem as their Capital and moving the American embassy there, UNDER BUDGET,. This is the same Israel whom Obama forgot and instead supported the Muslim Brotherhood I might add, and the middle east went to hell in a hand basket, and the list goes on and on. There are many more I could add. Does anyone really believe a politician ( Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders,) would have done these things? NO! Because they are bought and sold every day.
By the way President Trump donates all his pay to charity. Would have any other politician done the same? NO!
Has he been perfect? Hell no. Do I like many of his tweets? Hell No! Am I proud he is my President? HELL YES! He puts America FIRST and thats why he was voted into office. He has done more for America than Obama did in 8 years. Oh and he did away with the individual mandate also. Obamacare is almost DEAD. Anyone in their right mind knows that turning over the National Healthcare System to the Federal Government is asking for a clusterfrick of mass proportions. Trump understands that more regulations lead to less success. And he has cut unneeded job killing regulations more than any other President.
And here is a little knowledge for ya. If it wasn't for the FED raising Interest rates the Stock Market would still be heading north. Instead to stifle growth they started raising rates. Under Obama they kept rates at historic lows for one reason that we all know is true. Obama wasn't supposed to look that bad. Job growth during his administration was mainly seen in the government sector and not the private. Again big government and huge regulations meant to kill the middle class and a huge transfer of wealth was the idea. The FED went along to keep his anemic average economic growth in the black.
The market took off as soon as Trump was elected and that meant more jobs. And guess what, There are now more jobs with more coming
These aren't talking points but actual truths!
To truly make this country "Great Again" we have to stop judges from legislating from the bench and abolish the Dept of Education and send the responsibility back to the states and local governments who understand better what their children need to learn. Common Core? Really?
Just another way to make money nothing more nothing less. CC was a joke and even teachers knew it. Get politics out of school and go back to teaching Reading Writing and Arithmetic. Stop teaching Johnny he can be a girl if he wants to be.
Look at any early 1900's 6th grade schoolbook and or test that children learned back then and you will see that most 12 graders today couldn't understand nor pass them. The schools have to be changed and changed soon.
Sorry I rambled but still these are my thoughts, well at least a few I might say. I have many more that would take up more than I care to write. And I dont place all the blame on Obama either. Aside from being the worst President in modern history he has others that weren't for America either. We can start with LBJ and go from there if you like.
Life experiences tell you that throwing money at something that doesn't work, and continuing to throw money at the same thing, makes you a fool.
I'm pissed at both parties and I am now a registered Independent. I was a Republican since 1978 but no longer.
Anyway so if you really feel he isn't "good" for America, then you aren't paying attention to what he has accomplished, and you are paying close attention to the MSM, who fail with regularity to report anything positive about our President.
Rant over.
Oh and those who use fancy words to put together elequont paragraphs without substance are what we call "educated beyond their intelligence!"
What most Anti Trump people fail to grasp is he is far from a "politician." He is for the country as a whole and party be damned. He is also pragmatic enough to understand that what's good for America isn't always good for EVERYONE because everyone has differing opinions of success and failure.
Pulling out of NAFTA, The Iranian Nuclear Deal, TPP, The Dumb as a bag of Rocks Paris Climate Accord, The IMF Treaty with Russia, Cutting aid to countries who support violent radical terrorists, Making America the leading EXPORTER of energy to the World, Getting the largest Tax Cut for all Americans passed, Lowering The Unemployment rates to all time lows for Hispanic and Black Americans, Appointing Women to Major positions in the Gvmt, Meeting with the Leader of N Korea, and when was the last time they shot off missiles over Japan may I ask? Negotiating from a position or power instead of weakness and leading from behind. Making our NATO members pay their fair share, Placed sanctions on Russian officials, Putting Severe Sanctions on Iran, Supported Israel by Establishing Jerusalem as their Capital and moving the American embassy there, UNDER BUDGET,. This is the same Israel whom Obama forgot and instead supported the Muslim Brotherhood I might add, and the middle east went to hell in a hand basket, and the list goes on and on. There are many more I could add. Does anyone really believe a politician ( Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders,) would have done these things? NO! Because they are bought and sold every day.
By the way President Trump donates all his pay to charity. Would have any other politician done the same? NO!
Has he been perfect? Hell no. Do I like many of his tweets? Hell No! Am I proud he is my President? HELL YES! He puts America FIRST and thats why he was voted into office. He has done more for America than Obama did in 8 years. Oh and he did away with the individual mandate also. Obamacare is almost DEAD. Anyone in their right mind knows that turning over the National Healthcare System to the Federal Government is asking for a clusterfrick of mass proportions. Trump understands that more regulations lead to less success. And he has cut unneeded job killing regulations more than any other President.
And here is a little knowledge for ya. If it wasn't for the FED raising Interest rates the Stock Market would still be heading north. Instead to stifle growth they started raising rates. Under Obama they kept rates at historic lows for one reason that we all know is true. Obama wasn't supposed to look that bad. Job growth during his administration was mainly seen in the government sector and not the private. Again big government and huge regulations meant to kill the middle class and a huge transfer of wealth was the idea. The FED went along to keep his anemic average economic growth in the black.
The market took off as soon as Trump was elected and that meant more jobs. And guess what, There are now more jobs with more coming
These aren't talking points but actual truths!
To truly make this country "Great Again" we have to stop judges from legislating from the bench and abolish the Dept of Education and send the responsibility back to the states and local governments who understand better what their children need to learn. Common Core? Really?
Just another way to make money nothing more nothing less. CC was a joke and even teachers knew it. Get politics out of school and go back to teaching Reading Writing and Arithmetic. Stop teaching Johnny he can be a girl if he wants to be.
Look at any early 1900's 6th grade schoolbook and or test that children learned back then and you will see that most 12 graders today couldn't understand nor pass them. The schools have to be changed and changed soon.
Sorry I rambled but still these are my thoughts, well at least a few I might say. I have many more that would take up more than I care to write. And I dont place all the blame on Obama either. Aside from being the worst President in modern history he has others that weren't for America either. We can start with LBJ and go from there if you like.
Life experiences tell you that throwing money at something that doesn't work, and continuing to throw money at the same thing, makes you a fool.
I'm pissed at both parties and I am now a registered Independent. I was a Republican since 1978 but no longer.
Anyway so if you really feel he isn't "good" for America, then you aren't paying attention to what he has accomplished, and you are paying close attention to the MSM, who fail with regularity to report anything positive about our President.
Rant over.
Oh and those who use fancy words to put together elequont paragraphs without substance are what we call "educated beyond their intelligence!"
So, here's an interesting paragraph from the original source:
The information provided on Stone is the same type of information that Apple provided from the San Bernardino shooter's device from 2016 after a warrant was served. Unlike the San Bernardino iPhone 5C, a device unlock has not been requested for Stone's devices, nor has one been performed.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...threat-and-find-my-iphone-solves-a-kidnapping
So, it looks like the original article left out the small detail that the San Bernandino shooter's information was obtained via a warrant. That's a pretty big detail left out. It's unfortunate that this is a common day tactic of news publications.
Trump is for himself.
Keep drinking the Kool Aid......I learned a long time ago. One can lead a horse to water. But he cannot make him drink. You see something that for the life of me I dont understand. Meh it is what it is. I wish you success regardless.
You have been fooled by a great salesman. I feel sorry for you.
I don't agree with any of this. That said, this is a good post. You did a good job of making your point.
Well that salesman you call him has done more for this country than the last 2 presidents combined. Think on that a moment without any political thought process whatsoever...;...
Strum and ticket - I get that I see things different than you politically some occasionally, and I'm cool with that. Totally fine.
FWIW - I LOVE what I think your gist is above - the concept of NOT basing one's life - whether you get out of bed or not - or what you do day-to-day, based on what some (collection of) schmucks in DC or your state capitol say or do on a daily basis. Really it matters almost none in most people's day to day life, and if you let yourself get too invested in what they say and do, you are screwed because they will ALWAYS disappoint - and in this country we are meant to be free, and they work for us - we aren't beholden to them, like some kings or dicatators.
I tell my kids to try to live and follow this thought pattern, and try my best to live that way myself. I do realize that its not always that black & white, including the cases where the govt stooges screwed you via the shutdown. I do enjoy the mature, personal risk and responsibility attitudes you took towards it. (ie- what can I do to minimize the risk or impact of corrupt and incompetent govt stooges?)
I thought on it. Trump is FOS. Like most all of them.
I live in the swamp. I am in DC all the time. Even the best intentioned politicians will inflame huge amounts of people in this country. The most popular presidents will be hated by half the people.
I try and channel that lesson of just worry about what you can control and make the best of it.
Sounds like ridiculous government intervention was his issue, not the shutdown.
Intervention? There are policies and regulations in place for selling firearms. If you want to call it intervention, that's fine. If you have a pawn shop, there are a lot more circumstances and situations that will require more "intervention" than person-to-person sales, where there's virtually no intervention. I never heard him complain that they were too strict. He just said that had the government remained shut-down, it would have been curtains. Next time I talk to him, I'll pass it along that he should be pissed about them and pout and bitch about the laws that are in-place.
Yeah, when the government regulates s***, it's called government intervention.
Fascists?... Like Hillary, Schumer, Pelosi, and 80% of the Democrat Party?
Do you even know what the word fascist means?
You realize I was sarcastically mocking you right?...
I don't care what they do to the rest of you folks as long as they leave me alone.
I agree with her about campaign finance law, but that's about it. The issue I have is that her stance on government is one that allows for more corruption, so she's against that corruption, but she's going to put it in what is basically a political incubator so that it grows faster. It seems pretty counter-productive.
That's the first thing I thought of as well. That being said, I don't think that's a real uncommon occurance in DC.
I just wanted to share how she illustrated that corporations influence the government and the politicians they fund do their bidding. If fascism is corporate influenced government, then we have a system in place that acts as a red carpet for it to flourish.
I'm not trying to show support for AOC, herself. She didn't mention Democrats or Republicans. She just explained how it's fundamentally broken.
I get that, and I agree with her. We are technically a fascist country, most western countries are. I would love to get corporate money out of politics, but I just think she's going about it the wrong way.
She probably just watched the other 50 million people who have said the exact same thing as her the past couple of years. That was five minutes of her repeating the same stuff and providing absolutely nothing new. She did manage to leave out the fact that those donations are public record, so it can't be hidden. That's how I know that Apple, UAW, SEIU and Moveon.org contributed to her campaign.
I'm not aware of what "way" she's going about it. I was just impressed by the way she used her platform there to call attention to the corruption. I rarely see politicians do that. She's new, so maybe she's too green and eager and hasn't been reigned in yet.
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