OOTB's Political Thread . ..

[randman1]

Humanities majors are often very left wing especially in colleges within the northeast and west coast. They often lead to teaching jobs like the woman in that video.

Take it from someone who knows, gender dysphoria is not something the vast majority of people have. I'd venture the trans population is 1-1.5% maximum. You don't need full scale lessons on gender identity, skin color, and what not in a preschool class.

Of course, you don't unless you are trying to groom the children.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Is there a shortage of people without gender dysphoria??? If someone is dealing with that, I have sympathy for them. But, I don't understand why there are so many that are seeking employment in elementary school education. I never realized that this condition was so abundant, quite frankly. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to unnecessarily confuse or disrupt the maturity of these really young children with this condition.

Same Bro, same.

 

[tarheel0910]

and start reading

You and the people who liked my post misunderstood the meaning.

 

[strummingram]

Humanities majors are often very left wing especially in colleges within the northeast and west coast. They often lead to teaching jobs like the woman in that video.

Take it from someone who knows, gender dysphoria is not something the vast majority of people have. I'd venture the trans population is 1-1.5% maximum. You don't need full scale lessons on gender identity, skin color, and what not in a preschool class.

Okay... so, that was a "cis" woman in that tik tok video? I wasn't sure. And, I guess I'm thinking that there are vast amounts of human experience that young kids- especially of that age group- can be inquisitive about that getting hung-up on "am I a boy or girl?" would be way, way down on the list. And, caring what gender their teacher is would be even further down the list. If that was a trans woman (or man)-- I'm not sure how you phrase it-- why would they feel compelled to share that with preschool kids anyway?

 

[randman1]

You don't even recognize your own hypocrisy lol. This is entirely filled with empty platitudes and false equivalencies.

If your stance is that America should never get involved in foreign conflicts and not exert power abroad, fair enough. Every President since Truman has done this, Democrat and Republican so don't gaslight me with that 'neocon' bullshit. I believe America has a part to play on the world stage and better that we play that role than an Imperialist Russia or China.

Let me answer the Holodomor question for you: it was the Russians who committed it. Yes, under Stalin. Who by the way, isn't even in the same league politically as the NYT or American liberalism. But I know how you just love to villainize anything that isn't remotely right wing and lump into one category for you to hate on. The point is, the Russians have committed mass murder in numerous places and resettled their own people there. 1.6 million Ukrainians have been kidnapped and relocated in this current war. Same shit all over again.

Ukraine is certainly a flawed democracy, but not anywhere near as flawed as Russia. Again, to say they are the on the same moral plane as Russia is just not an argument made in good faith.

What this war is about isn't just Ukraine or a mindless land grab. It's ideology. It's the soul of the world. Russia is cynically challenging an order led by the West with us as the leader. We cannot allow that to break apart or back down or we risk further conflict in the future in other parts of the world. We send a message anyone can threaten anyone with nukes and you're good to go. That's not feasible.

This is our end goal. To finally weaken and reduce the power of a hostile, insecure, neo imperialist power hellbent on genocide and the reconquering of its old empire. To show our way works, not mindless postmodern right wing nationalism. And to secure a strong, independent Ukraine that has thrown off the yoke of its oppressive neighbor.

I'll ignore your foul attempt to insult me. It literally has nothing to do with what we're talking about and it just shows you for what you truly are.

" Yes, under Stalin. Who by the way, isn't even in the same league politically as the NYT or American liberalism. "

You do realize the American Left and NYTs intentionally lauded Stalin and covered up the Holomodor while it was happening. Ole Uncle Joe was their hero at the time.

The NYTs writer even got a Pulitzer for it and the NYTs never apologized; nor returned it. They were the global propaganda arm for Stalin at the time. They aided and abetted, intentionally so, and that's because they were and are leftists who liked communism.

 

[randman1]

Okay... so, that was a "cis" woman in that tik tok video? I wasn't sure. And, I guess I'm thinking that there are vast amounts of human experience that young kids- especially of that age group- can be inquisitive about that getting hung-up on "am I a boy or girl?" would be way, way down on the list. And, caring what gender their teacher is would be even further down the list. If that was a trans woman (or man)-- I'm not sure how you phrase it-- why would they feel compelled to share that with preschool kids anyway?

Cis seems kind of like the trans version of the N-word that they use to demean normal people.

 

[carolinablue34]

Okay... so, that was a "cis" woman in that tik tok video? I wasn't sure. And, I guess I'm thinking that there are vast amounts of human experience that young kids- especially of that age group- can be inquisitive about that getting hung-up on "am I a boy or girl?" would be way, way down on the list. And, caring what gender their teacher is would be even further down the list. If that was a trans woman (or man)-- I'm not sure how you phrase it-- why would they feel compelled to share that with preschool kids anyway?

Yeah that was a cis woman. I’m pretty sure anyway.

Kids are naturally curious and they often shrug at things that adults make a big deal out of. The current controversy around this reminds me a lot of the gay panic back in the 80s. Or the satanic panic of the 90s. Overblown and founded on the idea that people can’t be gay unless you put the idea in their head. Which is why some on this board insidiously refer to people like me as “groomers.” Make it about the children and drum up fear. Can’t harm the kiddos if the queers are back in the closet.

With that said, however, that woman is a classic example of what NOT to do in a classroom. It’s not grooming, it’s injecting left wing activism into education. Children between ages 1-12 need to learn about reading, writing, science, math, etc. they should be taught that all people, even people who are different, should be respected. The golden rule. That’s it. There’s no need to rewrite the playbook.

Acceptance must come organically. It cannot be seen as a “push” or an agenda. I’ve stated many times my status as a trans person is merely a state of being, not an ideology. Yet it’s being treated like one by both the far left and right.

Let kids figure themselves out. And if one happens to be gender non confirming or claims they’re trans, take steps accordingly. It doesn’t need to take up part a K-5 curriculum.

 

[strummingram]

Cis seems kind of like the trans version of the N-word that they use to demean normal people.

And, who are the "normal" people, exactly? I know you think you're normal, but you're not. You're just you. And, now you've decided that a reference term is derogatory and meant to malign you and other "normal people" like you. Cis is going pretty easy on you, if that's the case.

Cis is just a reference term, short for cisgender. It's "denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex." I didn't know it was even a thing until very recently. It's a little peculiar to me, but I'll manage.

 

[randman1]

Yeah that was a cis woman. I’m pretty sure anyway.

Kids are naturally curious and they often shrug at things that adults make a big deal out of. The current controversy around this reminds me a lot of the gay panic back in the 80s. Or the satanic panic of the 90s. Overblown and founded on the idea that people can’t be gay unless you put the idea in their head. Which is why some on this board insidiously refer to people like me as “groomers.” Make it about the children and drum up fear. Can’t harm the kiddos if the queers are back in the closet.

With that said, however, that woman is a classic example of what NOT to do in a classroom. It’s not grooming, it’s injecting left wing activism into education. Children between ages 1-12 need to learn about reading, writing, science, math, etc. they should be taught that all people, even people who are different, should be respected. The golden rule. That’s it. There’s no need to rewrite the playbook.

Acceptance must come organically. It cannot be seen as a “push” or an agenda. I’ve stated many times my status as a trans person is merely a state of being, not an ideology. Yet it’s being treated like one by both the far left and right.

Let kids figure themselves out. And if one happens to be gender non confirming or claims they’re trans, take steps accordingly. It doesn’t need to take up part a K-5 curriculum.

" It’s not grooming, it’s injecting left wing activism into education. "

Um, you realize that's one and the same thing. It's grooming, and all the victims having their genitals or breasts cut off, taking hardcore drugs via hormonal treatment with all sorts of medical issues that result aren't just some imagined overblown phobia. It's real, and it's causing great and often irreversible harm to people.

 

[randman1]

And, who are the "normal" people, exactly? I know you think you're normal, but you're not. You're just you. And, now you've decided that a reference term is derogatory and meant to malign you and other "normal people" like you. Cis is going pretty easy on you, if that's the case.

Cis is just a reference term, short for cisgender. It's "denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex." I didn't know it was even a thing until very recently. It's a little peculiar to me, but I'll manage.

Normal people in this context are people not suffering from gender dysphoria and recognize the biological facts of their gender.

There is no such thing as a gender outside of male and female except perhaps some very rare mutations, but trans is not a gender. Just isn't. That's very, very basic science and biology. Your chromosomes define and create your gender and it's not changeable.

 

[strummingram]

Yeah that was a cis woman. I’m pretty sure anyway.

Kids are naturally curious and they often shrug at things that adults make a big deal out of. The current controversy around this reminds me a lot of the gay panic back in the 80s. Or the satanic panic of the 90s. Overblown and founded on the idea that people can’t be gay unless you put the idea in their head. Which is why some on this board insidiously refer to people like me as “groomers.” Make it about the children and drum up fear. Can’t harm the kiddos if the queers are back in the closet.

With that said, however, that woman is a classic example of what NOT to do in a classroom. It’s not grooming, it’s injecting left wing activism into education. Children between ages 1-12 need to learn about reading, writing, science, math, etc. they should be taught that all people, even people who are different, should be respected. The golden rule. That’s it. There’s no need to rewrite the playbook.

Acceptance must come organically. It cannot be seen as a “push” or an agenda. I’ve stated many times my status as a trans person is merely a state of being, not an ideology. Yet it’s being treated like one by both the far left and right.

Let kids figure themselves out. And if one happens to be gender non confirming or claims they’re trans, take steps accordingly. It doesn’t need to take up part a K-5 curriculum.

Yeah... let's showcase an extreme and insist it's commonplace and being imposed by "the left." I did see a video of Jon Stewart grilling an Arkansas AG or lt. governor, which was pretty harsh.

This is the same culture that has been so wracked with guilt and shame, regarding human sexuality, that it has to resort to euphemisms for kids when referring to the genitals.

 

[randman1]

Yeah that was a cis woman. I’m pretty sure anyway.

Kids are naturally curious and they often shrug at things that adults make a big deal out of. The current controversy around this reminds me a lot of the gay panic back in the 80s. Or the satanic panic of the 90s. Overblown and founded on the idea that people can’t be gay unless you put the idea in their head. Which is why some on this board insidiously refer to people like me as “groomers.” Make it about the children and drum up fear. Can’t harm the kiddos if the queers are back in the closet.

With that said, however, that woman is a classic example of what NOT to do in a classroom. It’s not grooming, it’s injecting left wing activism into education. Children between ages 1-12 need to learn about reading, writing, science, math, etc. they should be taught that all people, even people who are different, should be respected. The golden rule. That’s it. There’s no need to rewrite the playbook.

Acceptance must come organically. It cannot be seen as a “push” or an agenda. I’ve stated many times my status as a trans person is merely a state of being, not an ideology. Yet it’s being treated like one by both the far left and right.

Let kids figure themselves out. And if one happens to be gender non confirming or claims they’re trans, take steps accordingly. It doesn’t need to take up part a K-5 curriculum.

So you support De Santis's so-called "Don't Say Gay" bill, which really is just keeping the trans-agenda out of the curriculum for children where it's clearly not age appropriate?

I think it should be banned all the way through high school as well. Schools should focus on education and not this stuff.

 

[carolinablue34]

" It’s not grooming, it’s injecting left wing activism into education. "

Um, you realize that's one and the same thing. It's grooming, and all the victims having their genitals or breasts cut off, taking hardcore drugs via hormonal treatment with all sorts of medical issues that result aren't just some imagined overblown phobia. It's real, and it's causing great and often irreversible harm to people.

Yeah this just isn’t happening. And you’re a classic example of people drumming up fear where there doesn’t need to be.

 

[carolinablue34]

Normal people in this context are people not suffering from gender dysphoria and recognize the biological facts of their gender.

There is no such thing as a gender outside of male and female except perhaps some very rare mutations, but trans is not a gender. Just isn't. That's very, very basic science and biology. Your chromosomes define and create your gender and it's not changeable.

Again, you just out your own ignorance. Science is only useful to people like you when it suits you.

It’s rare, but there are men born with XX chromosomes and women born with XY chromosomes. There are also intersex people.

 

[carolinablue34]

Cis seems kind of like the trans version of the N-word that they use to demean normal people.

I’ve called you many derogatory names. I assure you ‘cis’ isn’t one of them. Once again, you have no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to this subject. Zero.

 

[randman1]

Again, you just out your own ignorance. Science is only useful to people like you when it suits you.

It’s rare, but there are men born with XX chromosomes and women born with XY chromosomes. There are also intersex people.

Yeah, I mentioned that already, doofus.

 

[strummingram]

Normal people in this context are people not suffering from gender dysphoria and recognize the biological facts of their gender.

There is no such thing as a gender outside of male and female except perhaps some very rare mutations, but trans is not a gender. Just isn't. That's very, very basic science and biology. Your chromosomes define and create your gender and it's not changeable.

I'm taking baby-steps with all of it because it's not really something I'm all that familiar with.

 

[randman1]

I’ve called you many derogatory names. I assure you ‘cis’ isn’t one of them. Once again, you have no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to this subject. Zero.

Yeah, I have no idea. Regular people cannot possibly know the difference between male and female.

 

[randman1]

So here we have a democrat who personally witnessed the plan to add 35K to each democrat candidate in the state (which also means Trump won there), and the email was sent to the DOJ, and they did nothing.

Just one of the numerous ways the election was absolutely stolen and rigged.

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[randman1]

I'm taking baby-steps with all of it because it's not really something I'm all that familiar with.

It's simple really. Gender dysphoria is a psychological condition. It's not a biological one.

 

[randman1]

Yeah this just isn’t happening. And you’re a classic example of people drumming up fear where there doesn’t need to be.

Oh, so the gender reassignment doctors, surgeons and practices just do not exist because you say so?

This is even crazy for you. There is absolutely no denying any of this.

 

[gunslingerdick]

There was a time when social mores underscored our society and even people who deviated from the norm, knew they deviated from the norm and acted accordingly. Man, those were the days.

 

[strummingram]

I think it should be banned all the way through high school as well. Schools should focus on education and not this stuff.

LOL... "this stuff."

What falls under the category of "education?" That's a rhetorical question, by the way.

 

[carolinablue34]

Yeah, I have no idea. Regular people cannot possibly know the difference between male and female.

Yeah, you’re right. You don’t know. Thanks for agreeing. I doubt you could even tell someone is trans or not. So many of us pass in public.

Yeah, I mentioned that already, doofus.

Not really, dipshit. That’s a term we used to insult people. See the difference?

Chromosomes do define gender for most people. It does not for a small fraction. So once again, you’re wrong.

 

[strummingram]

It's simple really. Gender dysphoria is a psychological condition. It's not a biological one.

Thank you, doctor.

 

[randman1]

Thank you, doctor.

You don't have to be a doctor to know the difference between male and female. Nor that if one believes their physical biology isn't their real gender just because they feel like it isn't, that's purely a mental issue, not a biological one.

 

[randman1]

Yeah, you’re right. You don’t know. Thanks for agreeing. I doubt you could even tell someone is trans or not. So many of us pass in public.


Not really, dipshit. That’s a term we used to insult people. See the difference?

Chromosomes do define gender for most people. It does not for a small fraction. So once again, you’re wrong.

No, I mentioned mutations already but that's not what we're discussing. You know that and so quit lying. Those extremely rare situations are not trans-people because in order to be trans, you have to transition in appearance and other ways to try to match the opposite gender.

However, you are still your biological gender. The chromosomes dictated that in the womb.

 

[randman1]

I want someone to watch this and then, with a straight face, criticize Ben Shapiro for his POV.

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CB, how is this not grooming?

Thanks, bluetoe.

 

[carolinablue34]

No, I mentioned mutations already but that's not what we're discussing. You know that and so quit lying. Those extremely rare situations are not trans-people because in order to be trans, you have to transition in appearance and other ways to try to match the opposite gender.

However, you are still your biological gender. The chromosomes dictated that in the womb.

They are still men and women with the opposite chromosomes. No they are not trans. But it still contradicts your assertion chromosomes dictate your gender irrevocably.

And besides, if a trans person looks and acts like a woman or man or the gender they are transitioning to, what difference does it make? You’re really going to force those people back into the other restroom because you’re too ignorant and fearful to think just a little deeper about the issue?

 

[strummingram]

You don't have to be a doctor to know the difference between male and female. Nor that if one believes their physical biology isn't their real gender just because they feel like it isn't, that's purely a mental issue, not a biological one.

If it's a mental issue, then it's best to let doctors sort it out before paranoid half-wits who will fall for anything their conformation bias allows.

 

[strummingram]

And besides, if a trans person looks and acts like a woman or man or the gender they are transitioning to, what difference does it make? You’re really going to force those people back into the other restroom because you’re too ignorant and fearful to think just a little deeper about the issue?

You don't have to be a doctor to know that he's scared shitless about something that he really knows very little about and refuses to accept any clarification on because it will throw-off his entire world view of how MEN ARE MEN and WOMEN ARE WOMEN. Men are the powerful ones who preside over everything and if they're weak, or perceived as being weak, then they and their tribes are vulnerable to the other tribes.

 

[randman1]

They are still men and women with the opposite chromosomes. No they are not trans. But it still contradicts your assertion chromosomes dictate your gender irrevocably.

And besides, if a trans person looks and acts like a woman or man or the gender they are transitioning to, what difference does it make? You’re really going to force those people back into the other restroom because you’re too ignorant and fearful to think just a little deeper about the issue?

Nope. You just are full of it. Mentioned those rare mutations right there in my post long before you said anything.

What difference does it make? Well, since there is an extremely well-funded and activist agenda and movement grooming kids to try to induce gender dysphoria in them, gender bender kids, taking advantage of small children, teen angst and depression, making huge bucks off of it at the expense of these kids, injuring them with life-long medical problems, and doing so despite the fact for 70-90% or more, the condition is temporary, it makes a great deal of difference.

 

[randman1]

You don't have to be a doctor to know that he's scared shitless about something that he really knows very little about and refuses to accept any clarification on because it will throw-off his entire world view of how MEN ARE MEN and WOMEN ARE WOMEN. Men are the powerful ones who preside over everything and if they're weak, or perceived as being weak, then they and their tribes are vulnerable to the other tribes.

Laughable weak sauce. Hey Strum, what do you know about Minor Attracted People?

You probably don't have any personal experience but who knows?

Does that mean everyone should shut up and just let pedos have their way because, you know, they aren't doctors or some such?

Abuse of children either sexually or via gender grooming is still abuse. Not sure which is worse, frankly, but no one has to be a doctor to know that such things are wrong, and it's asinine to pretend otherwise.

 

[strummingram]

Nope. You just are full of it.

Is that your clinical perspective?

What difference does it make? Well, since there is an extremely well-funded and activist agenda and movement grooming kids to try to induce gender dysphoria in them, gender bender kids, taking advantage of small children, teen angst and depression, making huge bucks off of it at the expense of these kids, injuring them with life-long medical problems, and doing so despite the fact for 70-90% or more, the condition is temporary, it makes a great deal of difference.

There's that wacky political delusion, masked as faux-concern for the weak and vulnerable children.

So, tell me, doctor... is it your opinion that you can "induce" a mental illness on people? I wanna know how much the people got paid for the spell they put you under! lol

 

[strummingram]

Laughable weak sauce. Hey Strum, what do you know about Minor Attracted People?

You probably don't have any personal experience but who knows?

Does that mean everyone should shut up and just let pedos have their way because, you know, they aren't doctors or some such?

Abuse of children either sexually or via gender grooming is still abuse. Not sure which is worse, frankly, but no one has to be a doctor to know that such things are wrong, and it's asinine to pretend otherwise.

Ahhh... more of your faux-concern for children. Now you're claiming it's pedophilia, too? Or, is that a separate mental illness that you're railing against?

If I express the idea that gender dysphoria is a bit more complex than the explanation of a right-wing paranoid nut, then automatically I condone pedophilia? There are more strawmen out there since it is harvest season.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Is that your clinical perspective?

Again, you don't have to be a doctor (or a manure salesman) to know you're full of shit.

 

[nctransplant]

Conway said it best in this song title

 

[carolinablue34]

Nope. You just are full of it. Mentioned those rare mutations right there in my post long before you said anything.

What difference does it make? Well, since there is an extremely well-funded and activist agenda and movement grooming kids to try to induce gender dysphoria in them, gender bender kids, taking advantage of small children, teen angst and depression, making huge bucks off of it at the expense of these kids, injuring them with life-long medical problems, and doing so despite the fact for 70-90% or more, the condition is temporary, it makes a great deal of difference.

Lol that didn’t answer the question and once more you’re proving you are the one completely full of it.

You can’t think of a reason why any of this matters except to make up a completely paranoid, tin foil hat wearing assertion about us and what’s going on. Because you’re afraid. Because you have an inability to try and understand anything that doesn’t fall into your narrow, authoritarian outlook.

 

[randman1]

Lol that didn’t answer the question and once more you’re proving you are the one completely full of it.

You can’t think of a reason why any of this matters except to make up a completely paranoid, tin foil hat wearing assertion about us and what’s going on. Because you’re afraid. Because you have an inability to try and understand anything that doesn’t fall into your narrow, authoritarian outlook.

How about this admission from a doctor engaged in the practice? Everyone knows these kids are being preyed upon and generally regret "transitioning" later on. But hey, it's now a 200 BILLION dollar industry.

"

• Dr. Daniel Metzger, WPATH: “We try to talk about it [transgenderism], but most of the kids are nowhere in any kind of brain space to talk about it really -- in a serious way. That’s always bothered me, but you know, we still want the kids to be happy.”
• Dr. Metzger: “The Pediatric Endocrinology Society meeting -- some of the Dutch researchers gave some data about young adults who have transitioned and have reproductive regret. Like, regret, and it’s there, and I don’t think any of that surprises us.”
• ....
• According to Forbes, the transgender surgery industry is a $200B+ market."
  
  
  

  WPATH Gender Affirming Doctor Expresses Concern for Mental Capacity and Informed Consent of Minors For Transition Surgeries … ‘Reproductive Regret’ … ‘I Don’t Think Any of That Surprises Us’

  Investigating and exposing corruption in both public and private institutions.

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[gunslingerdick]

@carolinablue34 never is able to refute any of @randman1 ’s poasts. He just gets hysterical and says how he doesn’t know anything. Lol.

When the left is confronted with logic and truth, they shrivel.