Lol how can you refute crazy? He just straight up lies about everything. You can’t reason with someone like that.
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Lol how can you refute crazy? He just straight up lies about everything. You can’t reason with someone like that.
Yeah, I mean to claim chromosomes define your gender, not how one feels, is just an obvious lie. Clearly how someone feels defines scientific and biological facts. Biden told me so.
Hey, man... if they're harming these children- emphasis on CHILDREN- then they should be scrutinized more closely and at least wait until they have reached/passed puberty. How in the hell this is something that kids in elementary school are thinking about is beyond me. I believe that aspect is just one of the latest faux-outrage hissy-fits for gullible people like yourself.How about this admission from a doctor engaged in the practice? Everyone knows these kids are being preyed upon and generally regret "transitioning" later on. But hey, it's now a 200 BILLION dollar industry.
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- Dr. Daniel Metzger, WPATH: “We try to talk about it [transgenderism], but most of the kids are nowhere in any kind of brain space to talk about it really -- in a serious way. That’s always bothered me, but you know, we still want the kids to be happy.”
- Dr. Metzger: “The Pediatric Endocrinology Society meeting -- some of the Dutch researchers gave some data about young adults who have transitioned and have reproductive regret. Like, regret, and it’s there, and I don’t think any of that surprises us.”
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- According to Forbes, the transgender surgery industry is a $200B+ market."
WPATH Gender Affirming Doctor Expresses Concern for Mental Capacity and Informed Consent of Minors For Transition Surgeries … ‘Reproductive Regret’ … ‘I Don’t Think Any of That Surprises Us’
Investigating and exposing corruption in both public and private institutions.www.projectveritas.com
I am sure that some people who go through "gender-reassignment" surgery will have regrets. If they're a tiny proportion, then it's not going to stop those that it must be helping.
Good luck stopping a 200 Billion dollar profit-margin industry. Kids or no kids, that's going to flourish no matter what.
How about this doctor? Is she crazy and just lying as well?
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rica Anderson, 71 — who is transgender herself — told the Los Angeles Times that she is horrified that even 13-year-old kids are now getting hormone treatment without even meeting with psychologists.
“I think it’s gone too far,” said Anderson, who until recently led the US professional society at the forefront of transgender care.
“For a while, we were all happy that society was becoming more accepting and more families than ever were embracing children that were gender variant.
“Now it’s got to the point where there are kids presenting at clinics whose parents say, ‘This just doesn’t make sense,‘” she said.
Anderson is so concerned, in fact, she said she is considering ending her own pioneering work helping teens transition.
“I have these private thoughts: ‘This has gone too far. It’s going to get worse. I don’t want any part of it,’ ” she said.
nypost.com
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rica Anderson, 71 — who is transgender herself — told the Los Angeles Times that she is horrified that even 13-year-old kids are now getting hormone treatment without even meeting with psychologists.
“I think it’s gone too far,” said Anderson, who until recently led the US professional society at the forefront of transgender care.
“For a while, we were all happy that society was becoming more accepting and more families than ever were embracing children that were gender variant.
“Now it’s got to the point where there are kids presenting at clinics whose parents say, ‘This just doesn’t make sense,‘” she said.
Anderson is so concerned, in fact, she said she is considering ending her own pioneering work helping teens transition.
“I have these private thoughts: ‘This has gone too far. It’s going to get worse. I don’t want any part of it,’ ” she said.
Trans doctor who helps teens transition says it’s now ‘gone too far’
A transgender psychologist fears many are making life-changing decisions because it’s “trendy” and pushed on social media.
nypost.com
And, how in the hell do you know for absolute certain that everyone who is getting this procedure is a friggin' democrat??? You actually believe that only people on "the left" are dealing with this thing? I know you're naive and take the far-right bait easily, but surely you don't think that this condition only affects "liberals", correct?
But I got what I wanted out of it, even assuming you're right.
But I'll play. What was your misunderstood meaning?
I can't find the word Democrat or liberal in the quote from @randman1, please help. Is this similar to you and @carolinablue34 along with the other libs here who believe all Republicans are racist, white superemists?
Well, he paints everything in a left vs. right paradigm. I apologize for missing this exception! lol
Los Angeles City Council president resigns after racist remarks emerge on leaked audio
Nury Martinez resigned as president of the Los Angeles City Council but will retain her seat on the council after racist remarks emerged on leaked audio.
Would you look at this racist, POS republican...........oh wait.
Estimates are between 70-90%, not a small fraction. It's generally a temporary condition.
And every liberal on this board doesn't? "C'mon man, er they"
How about this admission from a doctor engaged in the practice? Everyone knows these kids are being preyed upon and generally regret "transitioning" later on. But hey, it's now a 200 BILLION dollar industry.
"
- Dr. Daniel Metzger, WPATH: “We try to talk about it [transgenderism], but most of the kids are nowhere in any kind of brain space to talk about it really -- in a serious way. That’s always bothered me, but you know, we still want the kids to be happy.”
- Dr. Metzger: “The Pediatric Endocrinology Society meeting -- some of the Dutch researchers gave some data about young adults who have transitioned and have reproductive regret. Like, regret, and it’s there, and I don’t think any of that surprises us.”
- ....
- According to Forbes, the transgender surgery industry is a $200B+ market."
WPATH Gender Affirming Doctor Expresses Concern for Mental Capacity and Informed Consent of Minors For Transition Surgeries … ‘Reproductive Regret’ … ‘I Don’t Think Any of That Surprises Us’
Investigating and exposing corruption in both public and private institutions.
What on earth does this prove other than that surgeries for trans people are often super expensive and are often not covered by insurance? This is somehow a ‘gotcha’ moment? Lol it’s not at all an indicator there’s some conspiracy to try and give people surgeries they don’t need.
Yeah, the reason an autistic girl says she thinks she is trans because a bunch of others told her she may, and the diagnosis/interview lasts 10 minutes before putting her on hormones and down the road surgery, well that's just normal.
Money has no role in it whatsoever, eh?
And it's not just one surgery or surgeries. It's a lifelong patient saddled with all sorts of medical problems, a cash cow. That hormone replacement stuff costs money too but also causes sufficient other medical issues to really make some serious profit from these victims.
Where in my post did I say that "everyone else" does or doesn't? I was asking someone else a question and you had to butt-in. There are no liberals on this board. This board is so far to the right that it has to manufacture liberals to have any kind of opposition.
Do you understand the concept of nuance? Or that two things can be true at the same time? Yes, it is true that for the majority of people, their sex at birth defines their gender and they will feel right at home. For a tiny fraction, it doesn’t. We take steps to look and match our presentation and bodies to our intrinsic sense of self. It’s not something we just wake up one day and decide. It’s not a step taken lightly. And it harms absolutely no one else around them.
How much does breast-enlargement rake-in annually? If it's anywhere near 200 billion, you can bet it's going to be around for a long time. I don't care if 100% regret it.
Your estimates have to be adjusted for reality. If you say North, then we go South.
When have I ever stated a belief that all republicans are racist, white supremacists? That’s reductive even for you.
This board has one bullshit manufacturer for sure.
" Yes, it is true that for the majority of people, their sex at birth defines their gender and they will feel right at home. For a tiny fraction, it doesn’t. "
Except it does. It's scientific fact.
A man wants to dress, look and try to feel like a woman, fine. Have at it if he is an adult but he's still a man. There is no such thing as a different gender called trans.
lol, you might have an actual blind spot for any indication of a truth that runs counter to the liberal agenda. You should get that checked out....but not by an eye doctor.
I’m sorry, and randman doesn’t have an agenda? To literally discredit me and my community? And yet I’m the one with the blind spot here?
Yeah, sure thing dude.
That's who I was asking and you decided to answer for him. I'm sure he has plenty of work. He appreciates your assistance. You're as familiar as anyone else.
GROOMER!!!
He's trying to SAVE the children! Now that boy will wanna be a girl. Have you no respect for the mentally ill?
“Scientific fact” says the hardcore conservative Christian lol.
I don’t care what my chromosomes are. Why are you begrudgingly me and others our best chance to be happy? Why does it offend you? If we look like and have the bodies of the gender we present as, who cares? And even if a person doesn’t pass 100%, who cares?
Your obsession with this is irrational. Just like with election fraud and anything else you fixate on.
I've provided them before on this thread awhile back. However, it's not the kind of thing I saved. You can take the time to go back and look them up here, or not, but the range is 70-90%.
ETA: I just googled it for you to see what came up. Forbes claims it's between 60-90%.
" In fact, research shows that somewhere between 60% and 90% of children with gender dysphoria are no longer gender dysphoric 10 or so years later and accept the gender identity assigned to them at birth."
There's Growing Evidence For A Link Between Gender Dysphoria And Autism Spectrum Disorders
Mounting evidence over the last decade points to increased rates of autism spectrum disorders (ASD) among children and adults with gender dysphoria.
www.forbes.com
It's not just offending him. It's scaring the ever-loving shit out of him, apparently.
If it's not trans people, it's Hunter's laptop.
" The phenomenon of transgender children "growing out of" their transgender identity by the time they are adolescents or adults is called “desistance” by gender researchers. For decades, follow-up studies of transgender kids have shown that a substantial majority -- anywhere from 65 to 94 percent -- eventually ceased to identify as transgender. (Brooks, 5/23)"
khn.org
Research On Children 'Growing Out' Of Gender Dysphoria Adds Layer Of Complexity To Transgender Care - KFF Health News
Although research shows that up to 94 percent of children will "grow out" of their transgender identity, advocates say that those studies were flawed in the first place and shouldn't dictate how doctors care for young children who want to socially transition.
khn.org
If groomers didn't screw with them, the vast majority of those suffering gender dysphoria would be fine if left alone. These 13 studies cited in this article seem to average 80% as the number.
Gender affirming "care" is likely as abusive to these kids as straight up sex abuse, which is likely something the Left wants normalized as well.
" Thirteen studies confirm that 80 percent of children who experience some form of gender dysphoria will eventually identify with their biological sex if left alone"
www.lifesitenews.com
Gender affirming "care" is likely as abusive to these kids as straight up sex abuse, which is likely something the Left wants normalized as well.
" Thirteen studies confirm that 80 percent of children who experience some form of gender dysphoria will eventually identify with their biological sex if left alone"
Most children who experience gender dysphoria eventually grow out of it, celebrity kids are proof - LifeSite
Thirteen studies confirm that 80 percent of children who experience some form of gender dysphoria will eventually identify with their biological sex if left alone
www.lifesitenews.com
Okay... but, you see... that's not the same thing that you're arguing in other comments you're posting. You're claiming elsewhere that 90% of people who have gender-RA surgery regret it. That's not true.I've provided them before on this thread awhile back. However, it's not the kind of thing I saved. You can take the time to go back and look them up here, or not, but the range is 70-90%.
ETA: I just googled it for you to see what came up. Forbes claims it's between 60-90%.
" In fact, research shows that somewhere between 60% and 90% of children with gender dysphoria are no longer gender dysphoric 10 or so years later and accept the gender identity assigned to them at birth."
90% grow out of gender dysphoria - Bing
Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you.www.bing.com
A girl being a "tomboy" isn't what we're talking about.
This whole ruse you're exaggerating into apocalyptic proportions is just one, big socio-political subterfuge for your antiquated world view. You take it further than most, but... that's why you're here, I guess. At least @gunslingerdick keeps it simple by just pining away for the good ol' days that are long gone. Living and longing for the past is what you're really fixated on. Isn't there a click-bait ad for a time machine on one of your survival food websites?
Somehow they will justify this bigot keeping her seat.Los Angeles City Council president resigns after racist remarks emerge on leaked audio
Nury Martinez resigned as president of the Los Angeles City Council but will retain her seat on the council after racist remarks emerged on leaked audio.www.foxnews.com
Would you look at this racist, POS republican...........oh wait.
No one really cares if you want to go trans. Just leave the kids and young adults out of it and don't try to pretend trans is a biological gender and force everyone to agree with that upon threats of being cancelled or losing one's job, getting the Dept of Justice and FBI on the case to try to force this crap down everyone's and every child's throat.
If it’s such a small percentage, then why must we as a society even acknowledge it? I’m not saying that people like you should be exiled. But why do teachers even mention it to students? Why are books being written about that experience and promoted? Why is the President of the United States even mentioning it? Ever?
You are full of it and when shown the facts, create some absurd, dumb argument just to avoid admitting you are wrong.
Look up de-transitioning, and the percentage of groomed kids these days who are given hormones wind up undergoing surgery. It's a one-way street.
And being a tomboy isn't identifying as male. Geesh.
She will keep her seat but not leadership role.
" The phenomenon of transgender children "growing out of" their transgender identity by the time they are adolescents or adults is called “desistance” by gender researchers. For decades, follow-up studies of transgender kids have shown that a substantial majority -- anywhere from 65 to 94 percent -- eventually ceased to identify as transgender. (Brooks, 5/23)"
Research On Children 'Growing Out' Of Gender Dysphoria Adds Layer Of Complexity To Transgender Care - KFF Health News
Although research shows that up to 94 percent of children will "grow out" of their transgender identity, advocates say that those studies were flawed in the first place and shouldn't dictate how doctors care for young children who want to socially transition.
Yes, I’m glad you referenced that study as the be all end all when it was heavily flawed to begin with and even the the guy who created it said- “'The only evidence I have from studies and reports in the literature ... is that not all transgender children will persist in their transgender identity.”
Sure, that’s entirely possible. But that does not mean anyone is getting ‘groomed’ nor does it mean that the vast majority of kids with genuine dysphoria (the author of the study doubts many of these kids had genuine dysphoria) suddenly are cured of it. Fact is, there will be people who grow up to be this way and there’s nothing wrong with that.
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