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This is where ‘can’ and ‘should’ come into play. Instead of ridiculing me or making thinly veiled comparisons to pedophilia and beastiality, try to incorporate a bit of empathy.

This is not my grief. This is my personhood and my liberty.
If you want empathy, start a non-political thread to ask for it perhaps?
 
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So much for the conscience part.
He's not even trying to have an honest discussion. Bring something up he doesn't like, and he calls you a liar and all sorts of vile things.

Fact is we're dealing with widespread grooming of vulnerable people. Maybe that's what happened to him. Maybe not, but we gotta show some concern over tens of millions of children being subjected to leftist grooming. It's a very serious problem.

To me, the grooming in the area of gender is likely even worse than straight up pedo sex abuse. Both are horrible, and they are grooming kids for pedos as well but actually prescribing drugs and gender reassignments to kids or minors affects traumatizes them both mentally and medically in a physical sense.
 
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He's not even trying to have an honest discussion. Bring something up he doesn't like, and he calls you a liar and all sorts of vile things.

Fact is we're dealing with widespread grooming of vulnerable people. Maybe that's what happened to him. Maybe not, but we gotta show some concern over tens of millions of children being subjected to leftist grooming. It's a very serious problem.

To me, the grooming in the area of gender is likely even worse than straight up pedo sex abuse. Both are horrible, and they are grooming kids for pedos as well but actually prescribing drugs and gender reassignments to kids or minors affects traumatizes them both mentally and medically in a physical sense.

You are a lost ball in high weeds, dude.
 
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We need inclusivity because it's called not being a dick lol.
you added the lol at the end because you thought it might relieve the foolishness of the thought, but the fact is that this expresses exactly what you feel and what is important to you and most other mushy-headed liberals.

You call @gunslingerdick 's ideas archaic or antiquated or whatever but they are principled and they are the building blocks of the structure that preserves our ability to be or not be a dick, our freedom. Men have yearned for the freedom we have for untold centuries. The yearning for freedom and the principles that make freedom possible are timeless and precious.

And you say F all that, what I want is to be comfortable and have everybody not be a dick so as to not have my feelings hurt.

The new America..."Don't Tread on My Feelings".
 
So CB, why don't you any empathy for people like this girl?

Just my opinion, but at this point she should probably continue down the same path she's been on. Not sure a retreat would be pleasant for any of us.
 
Just my opinion, but at this point she should probably continue down the same path she's been on. Not sure a retreat would be pleasant for any of us.
I hear ya but no, let's have more sympathy. The groomers ruined her female identity physically but life isn't over.
 
He's not even trying to have an honest discussion. Bring something up he doesn't like, and he calls you a liar and all sorts of vile things.

Fact is we're dealing with widespread grooming of vulnerable people. Maybe that's what happened to him. Maybe not, but we gotta show some concern over tens of millions of children being subjected to leftist grooming. It's a very serious problem.

To me, the grooming in the area of gender is likely even worse than straight up pedo sex abuse. Both are horrible, and they are grooming kids for pedos as well but actually prescribing drugs and gender reassignments to kids or minors affects traumatizes them both mentally and medically in a physical sense.

What you’ve called me is far more horrible than anything I’ve called you. Don’t play the victim. Stop calling me a goddamn groomer. Then you'll get your honest discussion. You don't know me, you don't listen, and you compare me to pedophiles therefore you don't deserve a shred of politeness.

Fact is, you’re full of shit.
 
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you added the lol at the end because you thought it might relieve the foolishness of the thought, but the fact is that this expresses exactly what you feel and what is important to you and most other mushy-headed liberals.

You call @gunslingerdick 's ideas archaic or antiquated or whatever but they are principled and they are the building blocks of the structure that preserves our ability to be or not be a dick, our freedom. Men have yearned for the freedom we have for untold centuries. The yearning for freedom and the principles that make freedom possible are timeless and precious.

And you say F all that, what I want is to be comfortable and have everybody not be a dick so as to not have my feelings hurt.

The new America..."Don't Tread on My Feelings".

Yeah way to misconstrue literally everything I’m trying to get across.

'Principles'. Don't make me laugh. What he stands for is the freedom to be the biggest douche bag he can to people he doesn't feel deserve an equal opportunity in this country. He can hide behind the whole 'I don't really care, you don't scare me' schtick but it fools no one with half a brain. It's not freedom. It's prejudice.

What on earth does him misgendering me, calling 'transgenderism' akin to pedophilia and bestiality, and using vicious language to describe trans people have anything to do with any of these virtues?

In reality, that whole line of thinking is not only antiquated but ridiculous. The Deep Southern idea that only certain people in this life get a share in the pie because 'that's the way things are' and everyone's on a hierarchal scale- white Christian men at the top and everybody else can f**k off. That is how he sees me.
 
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What you’ve called me is far more horrible than anything I’ve called you. Don’t play the victim. Stop calling me a goddamn groomer. Then you'll get your honest discussion. You don't know me, you don't listen, and you compare me to pedophiles therefore you don't deserve a shred of politeness.

Fact is, you’re full of shit.
I haven't said you personally groom children or even have anything to do with kids.

However, why do you pretend the woke ideology of the democrats does not include the practice of grooming children and minors? It clearly does. If you don't support it, then say so but pretending it isn't real smacks of a type of support for it.
 
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So the Noble War for the Soul of the World entails assassinating 13 year olds, eh?

Care to explain that?

 
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For the last few pages you guys have talked about trans people, people who molest children, and people who fvck animals more than I have in my whole life…..carry on
 
The dems (media, party officials, liberals, etc,...) want to out-neocon Dick Cheney, and Tulsi doesn't fit with that.
 
It's unnecessary left wing fluff. It's not 'grooming' which implies something far more sinister. Grooming is what Woody Allen did. Not teachers in an elementary school.

No one's forced to be trans. Jesus Christ.
Grooming is what that teacher was doing. Anyone who would allow their child to be in her class is guilty of child abuse.
In reality, that whole line of thinking is not only antiquated but ridiculous. The Deep Southern idea that only certain people in this life get a share in the pie because 'that's the way things are' and everyone's on a hierarchal scale- white Christian men at the top and everybody else can f**k off. That is how he sees me.
Here’s where you piss me off when you continually refer to this mythical “hierarchical scale with white Christian men at the top and everyone else can f**k off”. That’s bullshit and offensive to a lot of Americans who happen to be white Christian men. Strum resorts to that lie a lot when backed into a corner where he can’t psychobabble his way out of it. When you agree with Strum on something, it should be cause to reassess. It’s an insult to my religion of choice, my ethnicity, my sex, and my heritage.

I’m so tired of hearing that I’m the bane of the world’s existence and the cause of all the world’s problems. That’s the mantra of the left right now. So you be whoever you want to be, I don’t care. And for the record, you certainly don’t seem like a groomer to me. But I don’t want it promoted to kids who are too young to even know how they feel about anything at that point. And that agenda is being pushed, as evidenced by Rand’s numerous links. For you to deny that makes you, and all the deniers culpable. We have to take care of the innocent children, they can’t defend themselves.

I refuse to let people like you and the village idiot(Strum) make me feel bad about being a white Christian that happens to be from the south. F**k both of you!
 
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Grooming is what that teacher was doing. Anyone who would allow their child to be in her class is guilty of child abuse.

Here’s where you piss me off when you continually refer to this mythical “hierarchical scale with white Christian men at the top and everyone else can f**k off”. That’s bullshit and offensive to a lot of Americans who happen to be white Christian men. Strum resorts to that lie a lot When backed into a corner where he can’t psychobabble his way out of it. When you agree with Strum on something, it should be cause to reassess.

I’m so tired of hearing that I’m the bane of the world’s existence and the cause of all the world’s problems. That’s the mantra of the left right now. So you be whoever you want to be, I don’t care. But I don’t want it promoted to kids who are too young to even know how they feel about anything at that point. And that agenda is being pushed, as evidenced by Rand’s numerous links. For you to deny that makes you culpable. We have to take care of the innocent children, they can’t defend themselves.

I refuse to let people like you and the village idiot(Strum) make me feel bad about being a white Christian that happens to be from the south. F**k both of you!
There's no law saying you can't get your feelings hurt. I can't "make you feel" anything. If you feel bad about something I say, that's on you. I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings. Your reaction sure sounds like you feel bad about it. Otherwise, you wouldn't have any comment about it.

If you want to pretend that this country- its institutions, laws, and societal norms- was not built on a white, male protestant heirarchy, then you're choosing to ignore reality. It must not be as flattering as it used to be. That's progress.

ETA: Literally NO ONE is trying to encourage child abuse
 
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I haven't been following her since she lost her congressional seat. The DNC wanted her out.

She announced today that she has left the Dems. And I don't really know if she is going to run for anything. But I'm curious as to if you would support her if she did run?
 
She announced today that she has left the Dems. And I don't really know if she is going to run for anything. But I'm curious as to if you would support her if she did run?
The Democrats smeared her too hard for too long. I can't blame her for that. She's Bernie-level but not into perpetual war.

A life in politics isn't much fun. It must pay pretty good. I heard she had a podcast.
 
If you want to pretend that this country- its institutions, laws, and societal norms- was not built on a white, male protestant heirarchy, then you're choosing to ignore reality. It must not be as flattering as it used to be. That's progress.

I acknowledge those institutions, laws and societal norms were built in the white, male hierarchy. My response to that is, "Oh, well." There's not a damn thing we can do or should do about that. Those were the first people to form our country. It is logical to assume that they would create a life based on what they new to be true and right. We have fixed all we can fix at this point. The same opportunity now exist for all Americans. To say that it doesn't is a lie. A bold face lie. All people regardless of race, sex, etc. can succeed in America now. That is fact. There is nothing left to do except cry and complain that it was once the way it was. And boy does the left take advantage of that.
 
We have fixed all we can fix at this point.
Fatal flaw in your argument. You're too busy trying to go back to it. "We have fixed" is inaccurate. You, and all people like you, have fought it the whole time, in every generation. So, the "we have fixed all we can" is just crock of shit.
 
There's no law saying you can't get your feelings hurt. I can't "make you feel" anything. If you feel bad about something I say, that's on you. I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings. Your reaction sure sounds like you feel bad about it. Otherwise, you wouldn't have any comment about it.

If you want to pretend that this country- its institutions, laws, and societal norms- was not built on a white, male protestant heirarchy, then you're choosing to ignore reality. It must not be as flattering as it used to be. That's progress.

ETA: Literally NO ONE is trying to encourage child abuse
" ETA: Literally NO ONE is trying to encourage child abuse"

yes, they are and quite openly so
 
Fatal flaw in your argument. You're too busy trying to go back to it. "We have fixed" is inaccurate. You, and all people like you, have fought it the whole time, in every generation. So, the "we have fixed all we can" is just crock of shit.

Lie. Every American has the same opportunities. If you can't admit that to be truth, there's no reason for me to bother discussing anything with you or anyone that believes such nonsense.
 
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