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You do realize there was a permit for a rally at the Capitol.

If there was going to be a second stage after that at the Supreme Court, that is not at the Capitol and of course, it did not happen.

So what is the relevance of this?
The premeditated directive to march on the Capitol, which resulted in beat-up cops and broken structures, could be considered incitement of that riot.
 
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The premeditated directive to march on the Capitol, which resulted in beat-up cops and broken structures, could be considered incitement of that riot.
so could Trump's election to the Presidency, the way you idiots stretch things trying to connect the dots.
 
The premeditated directive to march on the Capitol, which resulted in beat-up cops and broken structures, could be considered incitement of that riot.
Um, it was a planned and permitted event. What don't you understand about that?

Unfortunately, FBI and democrat assets started tearing up things while Trump was still talking. No one that then heard Trump talking can somehow have been inspired to take down the signs, the barricades, which the cops themselves also took down, and begin the disruption.

When the Trump supporters left to attend the planned event at the Capitol, the stage had been broken down, and chaos already reigned inspired and planned once again by FBI assets. The idea was to break up the event, which was completely permitted and legal, instigate hostilities and falsely smear Trump supports as violent insurrectionists.

That's fact. You just want to keep listening to absurd liars telling you it was an insurrection when no such thing happened.

Also, there were 2 sides of the Capitol with things happening. Guys like the shaman dude were literally escorted by the police into and around the Capitol, and the doors which were designed to withstand explosives had to be opened from the inside and were magnetically locked. They are the kind of doors our embassies use, and no mass of people could force them open.
 
A simple question for you, @prlyles , @Heels Noir , and @carolinablue34 . With all the advance intelligence saying an event like Jan6 was going to likely occur, why was security not increased? That’s normally the first thing to be done. So why wasn’t it?
That's a question for the President's Secret Service apparently. They had ten day's notice.

But insurrection and defense-preparedness seem like two different investigations, don't they?
If an al-queda dude attacked a building would he and the "security guards" at the building be on trial together?

 
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Um, it was a planned and permitted event. What don't you understand about that?

Unfortunately, FBI and democrat assets started tearing up things while Trump was still talking. No one that then heard Trump talking can somehow have been inspired to take down the signs, the barricades, which the cops themselves also took down, and begin the disruption.

When the Trump supporters left to attend the planned event at the Capitol, the stage had been broken down, and chaos already reigned inspired and planned once again by FBI assets. The idea was to break up the event, which was completely permitted and legal, instigate hostilities and falsely smear Trump supports as violent insurrectionists.

That's fact. You just want to keep listening to absurd liars telling you it was an insurrection when no such thing happened.

Also, there were 2 sides of the Capitol with things happening. Guys like the shaman dude were literally escorted by the police into and around the Capitol, and the doors which were designed to withstand explosives had to be opened from the inside and were magnetically locked. They are the kind of doors our embassies use, and no mass of people could force them open.
Why are you talking about Stages when the crux is the march on the building which was basically a riot resulting in injuries and damage and one person shot while she tried to break into the last secure spot for our legislatures? The premeditated part in question is his purported call to march.

All evidence shows that Trump a) knew he'd lost early on, b) pre-election had plans to yell "Fraud" if he'd lost. That's what he did, and by yelling loudly he created a big lie that led to people rioting at the capitol and forming plans to disrupt the transition. Was he a huge part of the planning and the incitement? - that's the treasonous question.
 
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Why are you talking about Stages when the crux is the march on the building which was basically a riot resulting in injuries and damage and one person shot while she tried to break into the last secure spot for our legislatures? The premeditated part in question is his purported call to march.
Maybe you just didn't read it right and so will try again.

There was a planned, permitted rally at the Capitol that was supposed to happen. That was the next event, fully announced and fully legally permitted with all the relevant authorities aware of and it was legal. There was a stage set up for a variety of speakers to talk and address the crowd.

So after Trump's speech when he said we'll peacefully march to the Capitol, that was what he was referring to. That was the next event.

Unfortunately, bad actors including numerous paid assets and agents of the FBI and others had already instigated some rioting while Trump was still talking, but that was mainly on just one side of the Capitol.

However, on the other side where the rally was supposed to take place, the police let some destroy the stage and so when the masses of hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters arrived, the event had been effectively taken out, and there were no more signs or police instructing the crowds where to go.

The guy filming Ashley Babbit and the other guys with her, were actually Antifa as it turns out, and CNN and another liberal media group actually paid the guy. She likely did not know she was being set up to be murdered.
 
That's a question for the President's Secret Service apparently. They had ten day's notice.

But insurrection and defense-preparedness seem like two different investigations, don't they?
If an al-queda dude attacked a building would he and the "security guards" at the building be on trial together?


Their plan was to "literally kill people" yet all they did was walk around and take pictures. Why did they divert from the plan?
 
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That's a question for the President's Secret Service apparently. They had ten day's notice.

But insurrection and defense-preparedness seem like two different investigations, don't they?
If an al-queda dude attacked a building would he and the "security guards" at the building be on trial together?

"If an al-queda dude attacked a building would he and the "security guards" at the building be on trial together?"

I think you forgot to include the inexplicably-not-acted-on advance warning part, and you termed an investigation a trial...oops....but the answer is; only if you were conducting an investigation trying to understand what actually happened and not just how you can blame it all on orange man.
 
Telling the guy who provides all your military communication and subsidizes it to F-off was a very dumb thing to do.

Now Elon is saying either someone else pays full boat or he cuts Starlink service to Ukraine's government and military. He's just doing what they demanded!
 
That's a question for the President's Secret Service apparently. They had ten day's notice.

But insurrection and defense-preparedness seem like two different investigations, don't they?
If an al-queda dude attacked a building would he and the "security guards" at the building be on trial together?
Well said, blazers. These poorly educated Trumpers are first of all so ignorant that they have believed everything that has come out of Trump's mouth -- including the Big Lie -- and second, they are too stupid to recognize Trump's culpability that day. They are all dyed-in-the-wool crotch remoras all the way down to their slimy scales.
 
Their plan was to "literally kill people" yet all they did was walk around and take pictures. Why did they divert from the plan?
Probably for the same reason you backed out "riding shotgun" to DC that day with Felonius Punk, a.k.a. UNC71-00. How did you put it in your post to him? "I've chickened out." 😄
 
That's a question for the President's Secret Service apparently. They had ten day's notice.

But insurrection and defense-preparedness seem like two different investigations, don't they?
If an al-queda dude attacked a building would he and the "security guards" at the building be on trial together?

Except no Proud Boys came armed to the Capitol at all. Nor did they try to kill anyone.
 
Probably for the same reason you backed out "riding shotgun" to DC that day with Felonius Punk, a.k.a. UNC71-00. How did you put it in your post to him? "I've chickened out." 😄

Then no harm, no foul, I reckon. Glad you agree. And I guess you'll stop with your obsession over January 6th now that you've acknowledge it was a bunch of nothing.

There's hope for you yet!
 
Probably for the same reason you backed out "riding shotgun" to DC that day with Felonius Punk, a.k.a. UNC71-00. How did you put it in your post to him? "I've chickened out." 😄
Yup, cuz those redneck closet homos are partly all-bark-no-bite, partly incompetent inbred parasites who screw up everything they touch despite all their prayers.
 
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"If an al-queda dude attacked a building would he and the "security guards" at the building be on trial together?"

I think you forgot to include the inexplicably-not-acted-on advance warning part, and you termed an investigation a trial...oops....but the answer is; only if you were conducting an investigation trying to understand what actually happened and not just how you can blame it all on orange man.
Trial or investigation both work in my example. In neither would the guards or terrorist be in the same convo.

Now if the terrorist had communicated directly with the secret service and they were in cohoots, that's different. Was the SS or white house coordinating with oath keepers, proud boys and other insurrectionists?
 
Not one gun was confiscated and you know why? No one was carrying.
You're parroting the same lie Tucker Carlson told following the attack on the Capitol. The truth is, court documents, video evidence, and news coverage have revealed several rioters wielding firearms and knives, bats and other real and makeshift weapons such as chemical irritants. Meanwhile, Carlson never responded to those factual stories.

I'm sure you don't have the backbone to watch that 9 1/2 minute video. You would rather stick your head in the sand and continue making more ludicrous claims of no weapons, no violence truly is.
 
That's a question for the President's Secret Service apparently. They had ten day's notice.

I‘m simply asking the squad for your personal opinions, not discussing any potential investigation. With all the advance intel that “a major event” was likely to occur, why did the Washington police not beef up security for the event? 100 more LEO’s, hell 50 more and the protesters never enter the building. So why weren’t they assigned?
 
lol, this was outstanding, a perfect use of video to confirm the only points @randman1 was positing......nobody armed, nobody trying to kill anyone. You are outdoing yourself in making an ass of yourself in this latest foray into the 'Heels Noir makes an ass of himself' thread.
You didn't even watch the entire video if any of it, you old geezer.
 
Yup, cuz those redneck closet homos are partly all-bark-no-bite, partly incompetent inbred parasites who screw up everything they touch despite all their prayers.
I don't believe they're all inbred... c'mon, dude!
 
I‘m simply asking the squad for your personal opinions, not discussing any potential investigation. With all the advance intel that “a major event” was likely to occur, why did the Washington police not beef up security for the event? 100 more LEO’s, hell 50 more and the protesters never enter the building. So why weren’t they assigned?
I hope you aren't holding your breath waiting for a straight answer.
 
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I‘m simply asking the squad for your personal opinions, not discussing any potential investigation. With all the advance intel that “a major event” was likely to occur, why did the Washington police not beef up security for the event? 100 more LEO’s, hell 50 more and the protesters never enter the building. So why weren’t they assigned?
Maybe it's because they're not clairvoyant. Maybe it was errors in judgment. Maybe bad policing?

Since you seem to have such a handle on it, explain to us all what the advance intel was comprised of.
 
You're parroting the same lie Tucker Carlson told following the attack on the Capitol. The truth is, court documents, video evidence, and news coverage have revealed several rioters wielding firearms and knives, bats and other real and makeshift weapons such as chemical irritants. Meanwhile, Carlson never responded to those factual stories.

I'm sure you don't have the backbone to watch that 9 1/2 minute video. You would rather stick your head in the sand and continue making more ludicrous claims of no weapons, no violence truly is.
Bull-crap. First, no guns whatsoever were brandished. That's a fact. There is a very flimsy claim that does not show a gun but the bulge is supposed to be a gun. A DEA agent required by the agency to carry was one of those "armed."

Haven't heard of any knives either. Bats? Maybe. Chemical irritants? Sure but those are classified as non-lethal.

This whole armed to the teeth trying to kill people is total, 100% Bull-crap.
 
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Had the crowd wanted to kill people including the cops, they could have very easily considering their numbers.
So what you're saying is even though none of the Capitol police died that day -- although four of them eventually would -- it was all just a bunch of harmless, innocent violence taking place.

Someone needs to put a brick upside your head, Randy.
 
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