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You're not asking the right questions.

We both agree the attack on Capitol Building was egregious but you're coming to the wrong conclusions based on your own confirmation bias.

You're putting the onus on Chuck, Nancy, and the Dems. Why? Why is it their fault hundreds of people stormed the building? Why were they even there in the first place? I don't get why you're covering for Trump and his followers when they were the catalyst for this, not the other way around.

Fact: Trump claimed multiple times the election was stolen from him. Fact: he tried to use a bogus legal loophole to stay in power at the expense of Joe Biden and collaborated with numerous aides and lawyers to do so. Fact: The Jan. 6th committee has questioned numerous people who were there and many of them stated that the erroneous belief in a stolen election was the motivating factor.


Ask why friggin security needed to be asked for at all. Your outrage is completely misplaced. I want the people who had a hand in attacking the peaceful transfer of power held accountable. Nancy Pelosi is no saint, but this is not on her.
and there you go again, knee-jerk. As you insist on laying the fault at Trump and his followers feet, you're just as insistent on ignoring, nay denying, the inexplicable failure of those responsible to apply security measures equal to the warnings received. You are a hypocrite of the highest order. You are doing exactly what you are accusing your opposition of.

I agree with whoever said they are more outraged over the trashing and burning and looting of private businesses than they are of a riot/protest at the Capital. Those who want to portray it as an insurrection are either hopelessly stupid or hopelessly biased....or both. They were pissed off people understandably upset over the use of unfortunate circumstances to skew the election that they had as much rightful stake in as the treasonous dems. That's right, the dems who manipulated the election are the traitors, and you defend their treason. The dems who staged fake investigations and fake impeachments are the real traitors to our democracy. Those who went nuts at the Capital were acting out of outrage over the real threat to democracy, and not out of mindless, destructive urges like the Antifa and BLM riots. The Capital rioters were aiming at the perceived enemy, not at whatever they could destroy.

The point is, you can have your opinion as to the culpability of the Trumpers and your ignorance can simply be disregarded or respected according to one's POV.. But when you also try to relieve Pelosi and company of any role in allowing what you so idiotically call democracy's near-death, you are roundly reviled, and you should be because at that point, you're just a hack..
 
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Pretty interesting. @Archer2 @pooponduke I think you'll find some of that interesting.

Eta: regardless of whether you feel it was peaceful tourists or orchestrated insurrectionists, the FBI & apparently SS response was either bafflingly incompetent or <insert conspiracy-level stuff here>
And that was my point. It was easily preventable. They allowed it to occur in order to be able to portray the situation just as it is now being portrayed. The DOJ is corrupt at the highest levels.
 
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And that was my point. It was easily preventable. They allowed it to occur in order to be able to portray the situation just as it is now being portrayed. The DOJ is corrupt at the highest levels.
Playing along, who appointed Wray and other people in charge?

And what if it succeeded in delaying certification per Eastman's plan? Then in your view they'd be complicit in overturning democracy.
 
Playing along, who appointed Wray and other people in charge?

And what if it succeeded in delaying certification per Eastman's plan? Then in your view they'd be complicit in overturning democracy.
Glad you asked. former FBI Director James Comey, former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, former CIA Director John Brennan, and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper were all appointed under Obama. Four shadier, more corrupt appointees have never served in those capacities. All were complicit in the sham Meuller Investigation. Comey and McCabe both signed falsified FISA warrant applications to spy on the Trump campaign. All have skated away scot free. And yes, Trump appointed Wray to clean house in the FBI. Instead, Wray said “nothing to see here, everything is fine in the FBI. He’s as bad as Comey, McCabe, etc… The bottom line is the DOJ is totally corrupt and is toting water for the Democratic Party. There is no longer equal opportunity under the law. We now have one set of laws for Democratic politicians and one for everyone else.
 
and there you go again, knee-jerk. As you insist on laying the fault at Trump and his followers feet, you're just as insistent on ignoring, nay denying, the inexplicable failure of those responsible to apply security measures equal to the warnings received. You are a hypocrite of the highest order. You are doing exactly what you are accusing your opposition of..

I call a spade a motherf**king spade. This was 100% on Trump and his followers. Period. End of story. This is objectively true and far from making me a hypocrite, it makes you blind as a goddamn bat.
I agree with whoever said they are more outraged over the trashing and burning and looting of private businesses than they are of a riot/protest at the Capital. Those who want to portray it as an insurrection are either hopelessly stupid or hopelessly biased....or both. They were pissed off people understandably upset over the use of unfortunate circumstances to skew the election that they had as much rightful stake in as the treasonous dems. That's right, the dems who manipulated the election are the traitors, and you defend their treason. The dems who staged fake investigations and fake impeachments are the real traitors to our democracy. Those who went nuts at the Capital were acting out of outrage over the real threat to democracy, and not out of mindless, destructive urges like the Antifa and BLM riots. The Capital rioters were aiming at the perceived enemy, not at whatever they could destroy.

The point is, you can have your opinion as to the culpability of the Trumpers and your ignorance can simply be disregarded or respected according to one's POV.. But when you also try to relieve Pelosi and company of any role in allowing what you so idiotically call democracy's near-death, you are roundly reviled, and you should be because at that point, you're just a hack..

These people were there for one reason: to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power and keep Trump in the Oval Office. Why else would they storm the Capitol? Because they had no ill intent whatsoever with a makeshift gallows and yelling for Nancy Pelosi to come out, right? Get real. It was an insurrection, and the fact you believe it isn't shows your own hopeless bias here. Which is just as strong as mine and you've openly admitted to on many occasions.

I'll make this simple for you and everyone else on this board who'd rather drink the MAGA kool-aid than take a hard look at who and what they were supporting for four years and beyond: you either believe Joe Biden won the election legitimately or you don't. If you don't, then say so and admit you think the election was fraudulent and that these people were in the right. If you do, there is absolutely no reason to defend these people or place a smidgeon of blame on the Dems for security. Biden won, Trump was in the wrong as were the folks who showed up that day, and decided to take matters into their own hands. Truly, I hate to put it so starkly. There is room for discussion and nuance when it comes to policy. But not this. Never this.

The real threat to democracy was and is the demagoguery of Trump and the cult of ignorance that surrounds him. And you're not only sympathetic to but you damn well believe the lies that sparked the events of January 6th. I will do everything I can to make sure people operating under that delusion NEVER take power.
 
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Glad you asked. former FBI Director James Comey, former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, former CIA Director John Brennan, and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper were all appointed under Obama. Four shadier, more corrupt appointees have never served in those capacities. All were complicit in the sham Meuller Investigation. Comey and McCabe both signed falsified FISA warrant applications to spy on the Trump campaign. All have skated away scot free. And yes, Trump appointed Wray to clean house in the FBI. Instead, Wray said “nothing to see here, everything is fine in the FBI. He’s as bad as Comey, McCabe, etc… The bottom line is the DOJ is totally corrupt and is toting water for the Democratic Party. There is no longer equal opportunity under the law. We now have one set of laws for Democratic politicians and one for everyone else.

Translation: they didn't kiss Trump's ass so therefore they must be corrupt.

Hey, Arch, remember how you said you only believe half of what's said on Fox news? Try to get that number down to a 0. It'll do wonders.
 
Do I believe Biden is our duly elected President? Yes.

Are there things that went on during the election that bother me greatly? Yes.

Do I blame protesters for protesting at the Capital Building? No.

Do I blame some of them and Trump for it getting totally out of hand? Yes.

Did the FBI and the DC Police have lots of intel indicating it would get out of hand? Yes.

Are the FBI and LEO’s complicit for not responding to this intel? Yes.


See, it’s possible to believe all these things. By not increasing security after all the intel they’d received, they were potentially placing the lives of our Congressmen in jeopardy. Is that so hard to understand?
 
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@carolinablue34: Lady, you have zero credibility on this board. You have destroyed any semblance of impartiality you may have possessed. You‘ve now dropped all pretense and shown yourself to be no different than the other Squad members. You’re all eaten up with TDS and refuse to see that your party is now completely in charge. Your party’s policies are responsible for high inflation, the border invasion, soaring crime, high food and gas prices, etc… Stop being such a pussy and own up to it.
 
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@carolinablue34: Lady, you have zero credibility on this board. You have destroyed any semblance of impartiality you may have possessed. You‘ve now dropped all pretense and shown yourself to be no different than the other Squad members. You’re all eaten up with TDS and refuse to see that your party is now completely in charge. Your party’s policies are responsible for high inflation, the border invasion, soaring crime, high food and gas prices, etc… Stop being such a pussy and own up to it.

First of all, Arch, you're just straight up full of shit on the impartiality thing. You quote verbatim right wing talking points from Fox on this site daily. You blindly believe links posted on here about 'groomers' and trans people without a second thought. You told me to go f**k myself when you thought I was dragging you through the mud for being a white, Christian male. You consistently dish it out, but can't take it.

What 'my party' does in power is a separate issue altogether from January 6th, the 2020 election, and democracy itself. That's what you're not getting here.

I'm more than willing to have a conversation on the merits of the Biden Administration. I've stated many times what I like and don't like. But the topic of the 2020 election is non negotiable because it simply cannot be. People need to trust the election process in this country and giving a sliver of merit to the grifters and conmen lying that it was stolen or unfair in some way is something I cannot abide by.
 
Trump's own DOJ "allowed it" to happen???
You act like Trump owned the DOJ. I wish he had fired them all when the DOJ tried the first coup attempt, or even better counted them as enemy combatants but sadly these agencies are controlled and filled with democrats and the Reps in them mostly go along to preserve and protect institutional corruption while trying to curb it a little.
 
First of all, Arch, you're just straight up full of shit on the impartiality thing. You quote verbatim right wing talking points from Fox on this site daily. You blindly believe links posted on here about 'groomers' and trans people without a second thought. You told me to go f**k myself when you thought I was dragging you through the mud for being a white, Christian male. You consistently dish it out, but can't take it.

What 'my party' does in power is a separate issue altogether from January 6th, the 2020 election, and democracy itself. That's what you're not getting here.

I'm more than willing to have a conversation on the merits of the Biden Administration. I've stated many times what I like and don't like. But the topic of the 2020 election is non negotiable because it simply cannot be. People need to trust the election process in this country and giving a sliver of merit to the grifters and conmen lying that it was stolen or unfair in some way is something I cannot abide by.
100% proven it was stolen.

Dems have always engaged in massive voter and election fraud for the past 140 years. That was what Jim Crow was about, for example.

But now they fill the ranks of federal agencies to such a degree, the democrat employees in government are involved, coupled with globalist allies that may be Republicans.
 
You act like Trump owned the DOJ. I wish he had fired them all when the DOJ tried the first coup attempt, or even better counted them as enemy combatants but sadly these agencies are controlled and filled with democrats and the Reps in them mostly go along to preserve and protect institutional corruption while trying to curb it a little.
The man lost the election because of his own shortcomings. He refused to accept it and bullshitted his disciples into believing his lies. They still believe his lies. That's the epitome of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
 
The man lost the election because of his own shortcomings. He refused to accept it and bullshitted his disciples into believing his lies. They still believe his lies. That's the epitome of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
We all saw the election being stolen in real time.

1. We literally watched thousands of votes switched from Trump to Biden. The vote count was shown in some places, and then the next screen showed thousands of votes taken off Trump's tally and added to Biden's.

2. One town in Michigan was so egregious and obvious, with the machines switching one third of the vote, that they went back to see what happened, and sure enough, one third of the vote was switched. No doubt that happened elsewhere but of course, the PTB refused to allow investigations.

3. In Arizona, it is now confirmed all democrat candidates started out with 35,000 phantom votes, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

4. We saw 7 key areas all shut down or pretend to and quit voting. GOP poll watchers were kicked out or told to leave as the poll counting would restart the next day. In all 7 areas, hundreds of thousands of votes that magically went 90-98% to Biden were "found." Any vote tally that goes vertical is proof of election fraud.

5. All of these areas had vote proportions and turn-outs inconsistent with everywhere else.

6. One guy testified he delivered something like 200K or more ballots from the State of New York to PA during this time in the dead of the night, and was told to just leave the truck parked and unattended. Someone later took all those "ballots."

7. We have proof of illegal ballot stuffing across many states.

8. Wisconsin finally ruled the democrat mail vote scheme was illegal. Maybe too late now but that's proof Biden did not win Wisconsin and the election itself was not legal.

I could go on and on. It is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Whatever Trump says has nothing to do with it. Had a Republican done this to a democrat running, I'd say the same and of course, some Republicans were involved as well.
 


Maher fools liberals into thinking he's just going to bash Walker. Nope... he's bashing their extreme wokeness as the cause FOR people like Walker even being a candidate to begin with!
 
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Dominion machines conclusively proven to illegally have embedded software for remote internet access.

" It’s a very simple and very effective argument: if the Halderman Declaration is accurate (and neither the federal government’s cybersecurity agency nor Dominion Voting Systems have claimed otherwise) then Dominion Voting Systems could not have delivered properly certified machines according to the contract.

The Federal government’s own cybersecurity agency CISA has already conceded that the Halderman Declaration is accurate because it has issued a warning bulletin to county election officials who use Dominion Voting machines about nine major vulnerabilities that can be exploited.
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That unauthorized “python script” was installed after the certification date of the system — and “[t]his python script can exploit and create any number of vulnerabilities including, external access to the system, data export of the tabulations, or introduction of other metrics not part of or allowed by the certification process.”

The September Report also found an “external IP address that is associated with Canada” in the workstation which shows “that at least one of the network devices has
connected to an external device on an external network.”

Here’s the smoking gun: “This was the same device that the post-certification python script was found on.”

There’s also a high probability that someone in Canada was running Fulton County’s elections remotely. “The log files for the Adjudication device showed an IP address of
172.102.16.22, which derives from a location in Quebec, Canada and that this
revealed a serious issue to be connected remotely to a Canadian system.”

 
I call a spade a motherf**king spade. This was 100% on Trump and his followers. Period. End of story. This is objectively true and far from making me a hypocrite, it makes you blind as a goddamn bat.


These people were there for one reason: to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power and keep Trump in the Oval Office. Why else would they storm the Capitol? Because they had no ill intent whatsoever with a makeshift gallows and yelling for Nancy Pelosi to come out, right? Get real. It was an insurrection, and the fact you believe it isn't shows your own hopeless bias here. Which is just as strong as mine and you've openly admitted to on many occasions.

I'll make this simple for you and everyone else on this board who'd rather drink the MAGA kool-aid than take a hard look at who and what they were supporting for four years and beyond: you either believe Joe Biden won the election legitimately or you don't. If you don't, then say so and admit you think the election was fraudulent and that these people were in the right. If you do, there is absolutely no reason to defend these people or place a smidgeon of blame on the Dems for security. Biden won, Trump was in the wrong as were the folks who showed up that day, and decided to take matters into their own hands. Truly, I hate to put it so starkly. There is room for discussion and nuance when it comes to policy. But not this. Never this.

The real threat to democracy was and is the demagoguery of Trump and the cult of ignorance that surrounds him. And you're not only sympathetic to but you damn well believe the lies that sparked the events of January 6th. I will do everything I can to make sure people operating under that delusion NEVER take power.
lol, you're truly a moron, and you call ME blind? I not only have been saying the election was bogus, I said so in the fvcking post you just replied to. I have also said that Trump should have just let it go, and that he has been pissing up a tree with his fraud claims. I have also said that fraud, as is normally connoted, was not the issue but that the setup was the problem. The sheer total number of votes should tell anyone with half a brain that there was something rotten in Denmark. No normal, properly conducted election would have garnered that kind of participation, no matter how much Trump was defamed and even if Biden had spent even more of the campaign hiding his dementia in his basement.

And we won't even throw in the FBI keeping the Hunter Biden/Joe Biden issue out of the way.

There undoubtedly were some in the Capital crowd who had plans to disrupt the cert. But if you think that there were more than just a relative handful out of that entire crowd who went there with that goal in mind, you're even nuttier than most here think you are. If you think that mere handful of people, more successful that they should have been with proper security measures, were close to toppling our democracy you're certifiably a loon. And as unlikely as that might seem to be to you, I think that might actually be the case.

You abandon reason when you post. You become hysterical at the drop of a proverbial hat, or to be more to the point, the mention of Trump or anything similar. l would love to see you try to control your irrational hatred and barely controlled emotions to the point that you are no longer a shrill knucklehead tilting at imaginary windmills.

On the other hand, I look forward to seeing your crusade against your own ignorance take place.
 
lol, you're truly a moron, and you call ME blind? I not only have been saying the election was bogus, I said so in the fvcking post you just replied to. I have also said that Trump should have just let it go, and that he has been pissing up a tree with his fraud claims. I have also said that fraud, as is normally connoted, was not the issue but that the setup was the problem. The sheer total number of votes should tell anyone with half a brain that there was something rotten in Denmark. No normal, properly conducted election would have garnered that kind of participation, no matter how much Trump was defamed and even if Biden had spent even more of the campaign hiding his dementia in his basement.

And we won't even throw in the FBI keeping the Hunter Biden/Joe Biden issue out of the way.

There undoubtedly were some in the Capital crowd who had plans to disrupt the cert. But if you think that there were more than just a relative handful out of that entire crowd who went there with that goal in mind, you're even nuttier than most here think you are. If you think that mere handful of people, more successful that they should have been with proper security measures, were close to toppling our democracy you're certifiably a loon. And as unlikely as that might seem to be to you, I think that might actually be the case.

You abandon reason when you post. You become hysterical at the drop of a proverbial hat, or to be more to the point, the mention of Trump or anything similar. l would love to see you try to control your irrational hatred and barely controlled emotions to the point that you are no longer a shrill knucklehead tilting at imaginary windmills.

On the other hand, I look forward to seeing your crusade against your own ignorance take place.
Well considering all the hormones he's taking, it's not surprising.
 
Well considering all the hormones he's taking, it's not surprising.
you might not believe this, but I had a couple of lines in my post that alluded to this, but deleted them because as much as I think it might be a factor, I don't want to go down that personal road. I'll save that kind of stuff for Heels Noir.

It might not seem to be the case, but I support CB34 in his/her handling of hizzer's issue. I just would like to see more reason and less lack of same. He/she is intelligent and I think generally well-meaning, just misguided by apparently overpowering emotion. Our biggest problem at this stage of our development as a country, is that social media and a dishonest MSM have turned us away from thoughtful consideration and more toward unbridled emotional reaction.

I actually thought it would go the other way. I was dumb enough to think that social media was going to be the answer to a better understanding of our problems. Shows what I know.
 


Maher fools liberals into thinking he's just going to bash Walker. Nope... he's bashing their extreme wokeness as the cause FOR people like Walker even being a candidate to begin with!
and you don't take that as an indictment of liberalhoodedness? It's not like he's saying they should have held in a fart, he's describing why people want to spend less and less time in the same room with liberals even without the gas.

Every time someone posts a Maher bit, I am compelled to point out that he makes the case for being more of a conservative...yet he staunchly remains opposed to admitting it.
 
you might not believe this, but I had a couple of lines in my post that alluded to this, but deleted them because as much as I think it might be a factor, I don't want to go down that personal road. I'll save that kind of stuff for Heels Noir.

It might not seem to be the case, but I support CB34 in his/her handling of hizzer's issue. I just would like to see more reason and less lack of same. He/she is intelligent and I think generally well-meaning, just misguided by apparently overpowering emotion. Our biggest problem at this stage of our development as a country, is that social media and a dishonest MSM have turned us away from thoughtful consideration and more toward unbridled emotional reaction.

I actually thought it would go the other way. I was dumb enough to think that social media was going to be the answer to a better understanding of our problems. Shows what I know.
Guess my comment was kind of mean. At the same time, I really do fault our public health establishment and am beginning to wonder how evil, greedy and crazy they are, meaning some are deluded and some just greedy but regardless, what they are doing is evil.

They are saddling vulnerable people with hardcore drugs for life. Imagine what it does to the brain (the mind) to pump in so many hormones that someone begins to look like the opposite gender, and then to target early teens, late teens, pre-teens, and young adults whose minds are still forming.

Kids do some dumb stuff. We've all been there. Putting them on massively powerful drugs is insane. 70-90% will grow out of if they just do nothing and these wicked doctors, counselors and others leave them alone.

Plus, these are people already showing a mental condition.

But taking it out on CRB is perhaps going too far. It'd help if he didn't just hurl baseless and way over the top insults.
 
Guess my comment was kind of mean. At the same time, I really do fault our public health establishment and am beginning to wonder how evil, greedy and crazy they are, meaning some are deluded and some just greedy but regardless, what they are doing is evil.

They are saddling vulnerable people with hardcore drugs for life. Imagine what it does to the brain (the mind) to pump in so many hormones that someone begins to look like the opposite gender, and then to target early teens, late teens, pre-teens, and young adults whose minds are still forming.

Kids do some dumb stuff. We've all been there. Putting them on massively powerful drugs is insane. 70-90% will grow out of if they just do nothing and these wicked doctors, counselors and others leave them alone.

Plus, these are people already showing a mental condition.

But taking it out on CRB is perhaps going too far. It'd help if he didn't just hurl baseless and way over the top insults.
I don't mind the insults, it's the ignoring of reality that instigates them that trips my trigger. I have tried, but there just is no way to budge CB34 off that irrationality at the core of what he/she posts when Trump or MAGA or anything similar is mentioned.

ETA; I think you get a pass on the meanness thing, it's a two-way street with you two.
 
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and you don't take that as an indictment of liberalhoodedness? It's not like he's saying they should have held in a fart, he's describing why people want to spend less and less time in the same room with liberals even without the gas.

Every time someone posts a Maher bit, I am compelled to point out that he makes the case for being more of a conservative...yet he staunchly remains opposed to admitting it.
Liberalhoodedness?

Well... I don't identify myself as being "a liberal" or "a conservative." To me, that's like claiming you're always hot or always cold. It's a stupid choice to try and bullshit yourself into believing that you're always one or the other ALL the time. But, people seem to enjoy the ruse. Have at it. Cut off your nose to spite your face, be my guest.

I definitely believe that absurdities are kneecapping our culture. Encouraging and supporting the absurdities (extremists) isn't going to help, whether it's allegedly left or right in their origin. The way Americans perceive the whole thing almost guarantees a failure because bias is baked-in when you believe you belong to one or the other all the time.

I think Maher is showing (or trying to show) how BOTH are culpable for the mess that the country is experiencing. And, they are BOTH to blame. But, since most people are the hero of their own story, they will just adhere to these tribes of "left and right" even more and it will continue to destroy itself.
 
Glad you asked. former FBI Director James Comey, former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, former CIA Director John Brennan, and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper were all appointed under Obama. Four shadier, more corrupt appointees have never served in those capacities. All were complicit in the sham Meuller Investigation. Comey and McCabe both signed falsified FISA warrant applications to spy on the Trump campaign. All have skated away scot free. And yes, Trump appointed Wray to clean house in the FBI. Instead, Wray said “nothing to see here, everything is fine in the FBI. He’s as bad as Comey, McCabe, etc… The bottom line is the DOJ is totally corrupt and is toting water for the Democratic Party. There is no longer equal opportunity under the law. We now have one set of laws for Democratic politicians and one for everyone else.
I'm glad I asked too...
 
Liberalhoodedness?

Well... I don't identify myself as being "a liberal" or "a conservative." To me, that's like claiming you're always hot or always cold. It's a stupid choice to try and bullshit yourself into believing that you're always one or the other ALL the time. But, people seem to enjoy the ruse. Have at it. Cut off your nose to spite your face, be my guest.

I definitely believe that absurdities are kneecapping our culture. Encouraging and supporting the absurdities (extremists) isn't going to help, whether it's allegedly left or right in their origin. The way Americans perceive the whole thing almost guarantees a failure because bias is baked-in when you believe you belong to one or the other all the time.

I think Maher is showing (or trying to show) how BOTH are culpable for the mess that the country is experiencing. And, they are BOTH to blame. But, since most people are the hero of their own story, they will just adhere to these tribes of "left and right" even more and it will continue to destroy itself.
liberalosity. Sorry.

Just in case you misunderstood, I was saying nothing about your leanings. I was pretty much once again taking a stab at Maher for what I think is hypocrisy. Hypocrosity? Hypocrididity maybe.

ETA; in other words, if he's going to trash what the left is doing and point up what the right is doing well in contrast (which isn't the case here), he should stop trashing the right.
 
liberalosity. Sorry.

Just in case you misunderstood, I was saying nothing about your leanings. I was pretty much once again taking a stab at Maher for what I think is hypocrisy. Hypocrosity? Hypocrididity maybe.
Well... you have to watch the whole video.
 
I confess I watched none of it, and that is highly unusual for me. I will watch it and make amends if necessary.
I don't care if you do watch it. Yapping about it and having not watched it shows what a dipshit you are. You're never worth the effort.
 
Liberalhoodedness?

Well... I don't identify myself as being "a liberal" or "a conservative." To me, that's like claiming you're always hot or always cold. It's a stupid choice to try and bullshit yourself into believing that you're always one or the other ALL the time. But, people seem to enjoy the ruse. Have at it. Cut off your nose to spite your face, be my guest.

I definitely believe that absurdities are kneecapping our culture. Encouraging and supporting the absurdities (extremists) isn't going to help, whether it's allegedly left or right in their origin. The way Americans perceive the whole thing almost guarantees a failure because bias is baked-in when you believe you belong to one or the other all the time.

I think Maher is showing (or trying to show) how BOTH are culpable for the mess that the country is experiencing. And, they are BOTH to blame. But, since most people are the hero of their own story, they will just adhere to these tribes of "left and right" even more and it will continue to destroy itself.
you ARE always hot and/or always cold....relative to something that's hotter or colder. Largely the same way in politics.

Left and right and hot and cold are all relative terms. I'm always generally to the right of those who are always generally to the left. I am also generally left of those who are generally to the right of me. It ain't rocket surgery. Given the spectrum, I am to the right. I'm not 100% to the right on all issues, but given that it boils down to either/or, I have no problem deciding which one I align with close enough to pull the lever for. Apparently some special few of us see this as an unanswerable conundrum that can't be resolved by making a simple decision.

So anyway, I watched the video and as I suspected, nothing to make amends for. I got no more out of watching it than I had by just assuming what was in it from having seen his similar bits before (except for some fairly decent lines about Walker). The gist is, republicans suck balls, but they are willing to put up and support terrible candidates because dems suck balls even worse. He even confirmed what I've said any number of times here, that the dems will support not just a terrible candidate but obscene notions and stupid demands (like requiring society to learn an ever-emerging set of pronouns to describe whatever a mere handful of the population decides that they are on a given day, and like destroying a baby right up to the time of birth). They are sheep on a scale that republicans can never reasonably be accused of being. Sheepishly enabling the extremes is not a good thing. Of course, you'll respond by crying ' extreme Christian blah blah', and I'll respond that I'll take the Christian blah blah over crushing the skull of a perfectly healthy child any day.

Maher is anti-conservative, but he at the same time finds his own party to be intolerable to the point of being unelectable...so he campaigns to curb its idiocy. This video was exceptional in one respect and I already alluded to it in my previous post. He trashed republicans in this routine, whereas he normally makes the case for the conservative point of view in chiding the left for theirs.

Got your panties out of your crack yet? LOL, I hope not. I didn't waste that much of my life to make a nitwit like you happy.


AND BTW for you and CB and others....apparently your boy Bill also recognizes grooming as being part of the dem idiocy.. He makes reference to it.
 
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