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LMAO. I have never known of a more insecure person than he is, and he seems to have no awareness that he displays it in almost every post. The gift that keeps on giving.
 
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Does this apply to Clarence's stances on the right to same sex marriage, right to a same sex relationship, or right to contraception? Are these far left radical views? I think not.

It's not the their job to make policy based on politically right wing beliefs which is exactly what they've been doing ever since that conservative supermajority was created. See where I'm going with this?

Edit: I respect Scalia. Not Thomas. Scalia was a textualist which has respect for basic consistency. Thomas and Alito are originalists, which goes back to that old conservative stance that anything written in 1788 is sacred and cannot/must not be changed, which is foolish. Certainly the Founders were right about a lot of things. But certainly there are aspects of our society now that we have either evolved on or they could not envision 230 years down the road. To say we should uphold our society same as it was in those days is intellectually dishonest.
Except their job is to apply the original meaning of the text. Period. Whatever society needs isn't all that relevant. That's an issue for others.
 
Maybe this is true... its hard to imagine some as utterly dementia-riddled (now) and stupid, lying, tall tale telling, repulsive (all his life) being a legit competent "crime boss" - smart enough to be a kingpin in a crime ring.
He was a good and prolific liar and had and still has "protection," and so it wasn't that hard. Never was that bright and now he's senile, but he was the Big Guy in those crimes.
 
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Except their job is to apply the original meaning of the text. Period. Whatever society needs isn't all that relevant. That's an issue for others.
this is correct. And there is a mechanism for amending the Constitution, as unlikely as that occurence might be. It isn't The Supremes fault that it isn't taken advantage of.
 
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I didn't read the article, but did he actually order it to be flagged? It's weird to me that liberals used to love Elon and said he was going to help save the world, but since he's bought twitter they now hate him and he's going to bring about the end of the world. To my knowledge all he's done so far is bring a kitchen sink and fire some people.
The about-face that the Left has done on Elon (and Twitter for that matter) is hilarious.

They're all in lock-step on Elon being a bad dude now though... seemingly the only thing they can get in lock-step on.

My only question is whether the follow through rate of those that say they're going to deactivate Twitter because of Musk will be any higher than the follow through rate of those that said they were going to move out of the country because Trump got elected. Not a high bar to clear, to be fair (0%).
 
The about-face that the Left has done on Elon (and Twitter for that matter) is hilarious.

They're all in lock-step on Elon being a bad dude now though... seemingly the only thing they can get in lock-step on.

My only question is whether the follow through rate of those that say they're going to deactivate Twitter because of Musk will be any higher than the follow through rate of those that said they were going to move out of the country because Trump got elected. Not a high bar to clear, to be fair (0%).
When it comes to protesting companies, both sides usually suck at following through. That's why I think things on Twitter will be almost identical with the exception of different ways to get revenue.
 
The about-face that the Left has done on Elon (and Twitter for that matter) is hilarious.

They're all in lock-step on Elon being a bad dude now though... seemingly the only thing they can get in lock-step on.

My only question is whether the follow through rate of those that say they're going to deactivate Twitter because of Musk will be any higher than the follow through rate of those that said they were going to move out of the country because Trump got elected. Not a high bar to clear, to be fair (0%).

I always thought Elon was less than savory regardless of politics.

Although, personally I think most social media is cancerous. Wouldn't mind seeing it disappear.
 
Conservative courts have a track record of making some of the worst decisions this country has ever seen and before this is all said and done, the same will be said of this Court- Citizens United, gutting the Voting Rights Act, allowing gerrymandering, imposing limits on the EPA, disempowering Unions at the expense of the middle class, and possibly giving a green light to state legislatures to override the will of the people on election day.
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When it comes to protesting companies, both sides usually suck at following through. That's why I think things on Twitter will be almost identical with the exception of different ways to get revenue.
There's no replacement - just ask the folks behind truth social.
 
Couple of things. First, stop with the media line of the court being super conservative. It's not. I get so tired of the constant refrain that the court is 6-3 conservative. Just because an R appointed someone, it doesn't make them conservative or an originalist and Chief Justice Roberts is anything but that. If you look at his rulings and actual opinions, he's much more middle of the road (look at what he wanted to do in Dobbs). So, the court does have a conservative lean (and that's Ruth and Obama's fault, frankly), but the breakdown is really 5-3-1. And that's after decades of being liberal. Some balance and swing after all that time being liberal is not necessarily a bad thing.

Next, the Court is not a change vehicle. It's not there to create or change what the constitution says. There is an amendment process to do that. It is not a substitute for the legislative process. For example, the constitution never said there was a right to abortion in every corner of the country until a liberal Court created it out of thin air in Roe. All these years later, there was no reason that the constitution couldn't have been amended to recognize that "right" or to put one in place. They could have done national legislation to have one. They didn't.

Indeed, there are many things that one might consider good or appropriate that are not addressed or contemplated in the constitution. It is not the court's role or job to insert itself on topics that the constitution doesn't address.

The last thing is the notion that has long been forgotten and that is the actual design and layout of our governmental system. States have all the rights not specifically given to the feds. The federal government is not supposed to be an all encompassing, all controlling entity. As such, the constitution specifically says so and has many, many topics it doesn't cover. It is not the answer to every problem. Consequently, if the court says the constitution doesn't address something, it doesn't automatically mean that they are being super conservative, it likely just means they can read.
@pooponduke Maybe the best written most well informed and logical objective and educational post I’ve seen on OOTB. 💯 accurate
 
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Good read on conspiracy theories

folks here need to read that ^, then read this:
then STFU regarding 2020 election.
 


"All authoritarian movements are built on a claim of their own innocence. They are good, cannot do wrong, and must be always be an outsider who is the enemy. Self reflection is always rejected. You can observe this in all authoritarian regimes or browse far left or far right social media, and watch them constantly blame outside forces for everything."
 
folks here need to read that ^, then read this:
then STFU regarding 2020 election.
Democrats have primarily relied on election and voter fraud for power for 140-150 years. It's a historical and present fact, provable as well.
 
folks here need to read that ^, then read this:
then STFU regarding 2020 election.
doesn't disprove ballot harvesting, doesn't address crazy-huge turnout in a year that should have been down due to Covid had the election been set up properly.

What it does do is tell the idiots who harp and harp on Trump's whining from an opposition POV, to STFU and GFT, in no particular order. That's a really good thing.

Speaking of which, it also asks why @carolinablue34 won't respond to my request to address my post # 42,504. I know @carolinablue is a rank hypocrite; this is an opportunity, that I've generously provided, to prove me wrong. Why won't she take advantage of it?
 
doesn't disprove ballot harvesting,
We also have yet to disprove alien body-snatchers didn't replace every election official in purple states. But they have refuted proposed evidence that ballot harvesting was a thing, see the section on 2000 mules.

Good luck with your sour grapes.
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We also have yet to disprove alien body-snatchers didn't replace every election official in purple states. But they have refuted proposed evidence that ballot harvesting was a thing, see the section on 2000 mules.

Good luck with your sour grapes.
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I saw the section on 2000 Mules. That addresses Dinesh D'Souza's take on ballot harvesting. It does not disprove ballot harvesting or adequately explain the fact that, as I stated...and if you could read....that a properly conducted election would NEVER have turned out, especially in a Covid pandemic, such a massive amount of voters.

Also...if you generated that meme, for God's sake get the letters lined up with the page so that the meme doesn't look as retarded as your attempted point.

And sour grapes? If you could read, you wouldn't have missed this from my post. "What it does do is tell the idiots who harp and harp on Trump's whining from an opposition POV, to STFU and GFT, in no particular order. That's a really good thing." It's a people living in glass houses kind of thing, and the article clearly says you live in a glass house..
 
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I saw the section on 2000 Mules. That addresses Dinesh D'Souza's take on ballot harvesting. It does not disprove ballot harvesting
There is zero proof ballot harvesting (ballot collection has been legal for a loooong time) is a problem, just like alien body snatching (so far).

 
@bluetoe if you want to hang your election denial theory on high turnout, then you might enjoy knowing that apparently young demographics are turning out strong this cycle compared to other mid-terms, and they're super blue. Guess what, American politics are a shit-show and the GQP is the main act. Candidates like MTG, Trump, Walker, Mastriano, Oz and the refusal of mainstream GOP to do anything other than troll or support MAGA fvckery is driving people to vote (just like 2020).
 
There is zero proof ballot harvesting is a problem, just like alien body snatching (so far).
of course there is zero proof it was a problem. I myself have said I can't prove it and I really doubt any perps are going to step up and say 'sure we did it' or that it would be reported if they did.. But there's this thing you are apparently unfamiliar with called common sense, and common sense dictates that while alien body-snatching has probably not taken place, massive or at least substantial ballot harvesting probably did.

AND as I've said before, if an election is conducted in this country such that its propriety can be logically challenged, it was a bogus...and a shameful...election.
 
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@bluetoe if you want to hang your election denial theory on high turnout, then you might enjoy knowing that apparently young demographics are turning out strong this cycle compared to other mid-terms, and they're super blue. Guess what, American politics are a shit-show and the GQP is the main act. Candidates like MTG, Trump, Walker, Mastriano, Oz and the refusal of mainstream GOP to do anything other than troll or support MAGA fvckery is driving people to vote (just like 2020).
so you're saying it's still taking place? We'll see.
 
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@bluetoe if you want to hang your election denial theory on high turnout, then you might enjoy knowing that apparently young demographics are turning out strong this cycle compared to other mid-terms, and they're super blue. Guess what, American politics are a shit-show and the GQP is the main act. Candidates like MTG, Trump, Walker, Mastriano, Oz and the refusal of mainstream GOP to do anything other than troll or support MAGA fvckery is driving people to vote (just like 2020).
If you are saying that this new, young, woke crowd that is turning out in tremendous numbers is going to make this country great you are as stupid as you often sound. By the way, I have some great oceanfront property here in Nebraska that I'd sell you at a deal if you are interested.
 
@bluetoe if you want to hang your election denial theory on high turnout, then you might enjoy knowing that apparently young demographics are turning out strong this cycle compared to other mid-terms, and they're super blue. Guess what, American politics are a shit-show and the GQP is the main act. Candidates like MTG, Trump, Walker, Mastriano, Oz and the refusal of mainstream GOP to do anything other than troll or support MAGA fvckery is driving people to vote (just like 2020).
@blazers - okay big mouth, want to place a friendly wager on how things turn out on Tuesday?
 
@bluetoe if you want to hang your election denial theory on high turnout, then you might enjoy knowing that apparently young demographics are turning out strong this cycle compared to other mid-terms, and they're super blue. Guess what, American politics are a shit-show and the GQP is the main act. Candidates like MTG, Trump, Walker, Mastriano, Oz and the refusal of mainstream GOP to do anything other than troll or support MAGA fvckery is driving people to vote (just like 2020).
You're in for some serious disappointment.
 
Also, I wouldn't be so sure that the younger voters are "super blue". It's been that way for my generation (millennial), but from what I've seen, Gen Z isn't as blue as the Dems would like you to believe.
 
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Also, I wouldn't be so sure that the younger voters are "super blue". It's been that way for my generation (millennial), but from what I've seen, Gen Z isn't as blue as the Dems would like you to believe.

I’ve observed that too. But they aren’t hardcore conservative like a lot of the Boomers either. And they certainly don’t find much in common with Trumpism.
 
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We also have yet to disprove alien body-snatchers didn't replace every election official in purple states. But they have refuted proposed evidence that ballot harvesting was a thing, see the section on 2000 mules.

Good luck with your sour grapes.
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"He got more people to vote for him". That statement is even in question but let's assume it's true. I'll fix the meme for you.

How Biden stole the election:

He got more people to vote for him through (1) scaring them into thinking the COVID was going to kill them if they went out to vote in public and encouraged using a faulty mail-in system that we weren't prepared to use at that scale, opening up for the possibility of fraud, (2) lied about their voting rights being taken away, (3) encouraged dem led states to unlawfully change election laws in the face of a fake crisis and (4) used a witch-hunt impeachment under the premise of what we now know was a lie to effect the feelings of the electorate for months running up to the election.

But that would be difficult to fit on a meme, I reckon.
 
@bluetoe if you want to hang your election denial theory on high turnout, then you might enjoy knowing that apparently young demographics are turning out strong this cycle compared to other mid-terms, and they're super blue. Guess what, American politics are a shit-show and the GQP is the main act. Candidates like MTG, Trump, Walker, Mastriano, Oz and the refusal of mainstream GOP to do anything other than troll or support MAGA fvckery is driving people to vote (just like 2020).

Hey @heelmanwilm , this right here ^, is a perfect example of "whistling past the graveyard".
 
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