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@bluetoe if you want to hang your election denial theory on high turnout, then you might enjoy knowing that apparently young demographics are turning out strong this cycle compared to other mid-terms, and they're super blue. Guess what, American politics are a shit-show and the GQP is the main act. Candidates like MTG, Trump, Walker, Mastriano, Oz and the refusal of mainstream GOP to do anything other than troll or support MAGA fvckery is driving people to vote (just like 2020).
We should probably capture and save this poast for next Wed. It will be a pretty deep sea of red.

You went there. To mentioning Oz - but not brain damaged caveman Fetterman. If he gets elected, then why can’t we start running and electing people on life support, vegetative state? He is no more coherent. Have you heard him? Any even 10% honest logical person is embarrassed for him and sb made at his wifey for making him do this when he should be in a therapy / recovery institution

Also - you’re going to hold up criminal racist shyster “reverend” LMAO Warnock over Walker? Warnock actually makes Jesse Jackson and Al sharpton look like true men of god reverends - and that is saying a lot.
 
He was too much of a pussy to bet with me. Here's to hoping either one of you get him to bite.
You are a pussy about paying your losses, nobody is going to bet you on anything unless the wager is non-monetary and non-physical.... like avatar change.
 
You went there. To mentioning Oz - but not brain damaged caveman Fetterman. If he gets elected, then why can’t we start running and electing people on life support, vegetative state? He is no more coherent.
dood, Biden won. He wasn't far from life support & vegetative state when America voted for ABDJT.
Have you heard him?
I heard him b4 the stroke and he wasn't the most smooth or articular person even then. Importantly, the auditory-processing probs will heal.

But he isn't Oz. Politics these days is less about who you are, and more about who your opponent is.
 
i think house goes to repubs, and i think senate is coin-flip. You want to bet how close %-wise senate races go or something?
I’ll put a prediction out there. Senate at 53 or 54 including Walker, oz, jd Vance, masters. Rj in Wi.
Maybe a long shot upset in wa state. And the guy in NH wins with help from sununu.

House somewhere in range of 23OR/205D

Some gov surprises too. Lake in az a lock. I think Dixon I’m MI wins and even Zeldin in NY.

DeSantis will win by 15 points minimum in FL.

Maybe even Jensen wins gov over Walz here in MN but I can’t predict that. Walz has every reason to lose. George Floyd riots worldwide largely enables by him. Along with terrible Covid policy.

the key is how suburban women have fled Ds bc of how THOROUGHLY the Ds have fd their kids over on education. Covid, trans/crt/porn in schools AND how the Ds have Fd the economy AND crime and policing AND the border / drug pipeline. Ds have lost tons of normally D voting blacks and Hispanics on these issues too

Quite the superfecta of being on wrong side of issues.
Ds have NOTHING to run on and normal everyday middle class of all age and sex and race are pissed off and want some semblance of normalcy and competent leadership back

Just a very small slice of voters really care about abortion, J6 protest, trans / crt / race hysteria, or the climate crisis hoax. These don’t impact the average voter at all - sure not what they are voting for.

Wait and see.
 
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"He got more people to vote for him". That statement is even in question but let's assume it's true. I'll fix the meme for you.

How Biden stole the election:

He got more people to vote for him through (1) scaring them into thinking the COVID was going to kill them if they went out to vote in public and encouraged using a faulty mail-in system that we weren't prepared to use at that scale, opening up for the possibility of fraud, (2) lied about their voting rights being taken away, (3) encouraged dem led states to unlawfully change election laws in the face of a fake crisis and (4) used a witch-hunt impeachment under the premise of what we now know was a lie to effect the feelings of the electorate for months running up to the election.

But that would be difficult to fit on a meme, I reckon.
Don’t forget how 1) Google and Facebook and Twitter rigged / censored what voters saw. 2) And had armies on the ground in key swing cities running the election operations ensuring each d voter - real or not - turned in a ballot.

Both 1 and 2 sb illegal. 1 For sure had a millions of votes impact. It’s been proven statistically by dr Robert Epstein
 
Don’t forget how 1) Google and Facebook and Twitter rigged / censored what voters saw. 2) And had armies on the ground in key swing cities running the election operations ensuring each d voter - real or not - turned in a ballot.

Both 1 and 2 sb illegal. 1 For sure had a millions of votes impact. It’s been proven statistically by dr Robert Epstein
Proven "statistically?"
 
Proven "statistically?"
Yes. Look him up and read his paper. Googles triple threat. The guy is a psychologist and tech scientist and says / data expert, with a sophisticated group of field people who monitor and assess googles censoring, prioritizing, on Google searches people see. He started in GA 2020 senate races. When his team raised what they saw to google -
Google flipped off the censoring, filtering IMMEDIATELY-like a light switch. They could tell. He rightly says legislation and politicians can’t stay ahead of tech crimes. Instead you need to track the results of their crimes and take them to court and punish them. More of this work is coming, on a national level - many states
 
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Yes. Look him up and read his paper. Googles triple threat. The guy is a psychologist and tech scientist and says / data expert, with a sophisticated group of field people who monitor and assess googles censoring, prioritizing, on Google searches people see. He started in GA 2020 senate races. When his team raised what they saw to google -
Google flipped off the censoring, filtering IMMEDIATELY-like a light switch. They could tell. He rightly says legislation and politicians can’t stay ahead of tech crimes. Instead you need to track the results of their crimes and take them to court and punish them. More of this work is coming, on a national level - many states
I know who he is. What you wrote sounds like a hodgepodge of crumbs from @randman1 's conspiracy table. Big crumbs, of course. A full meal for gullible people who want to believe something that wasn't actually proven.

I found this:

But, I'm not sure I can trust it since I had to use Google to find it!
 
I’ll put a prediction out there. Senate at 53 or 54 including Walker, oz, jd Vance, masters. Rj in Wi.
Maybe a long shot upset in wa state. And the guy in NH wins with help from sununu.

House somewhere in range of 23OR/205D

Some gov surprises too. Lake in az a lock. I think Dixon I’m MI wins and even Zeldin in NY.

DeSantis will win by 15 points minimum in FL.

Maybe even Jensen wins gov over Walz here in MN but I can’t predict that. Walz has every reason to lose. George Floyd riots worldwide largely enables by him. Along with terrible Covid policy.

the key is how suburban women have fled Ds bc of how THOROUGHLY the Ds have fd their kids over on education. Covid, trans/crt/porn in schools AND how the Ds have Fd the economy AND crime and policing AND the border / drug pipeline. Ds have lost tons of normally D voting blacks and Hispanics on these issues too

Quite the superfecta of being on wrong side of issues.
Ds have NOTHING to run on and normal everyday middle class of all age and sex and race are pissed off and want some semblance of normalcy and competent leadership back

Just a very small slice of voters really care about abortion, J6 protest, trans / crt / race hysteria, or the climate crisis hoax. These don’t impact the average voter at all - sure not what they are voting for.

Wait and see.

Lake isn’t a lock and I fail to see how NY goes red in the governors race. I feel the House prediction is likely accurate. Senate still a toss up.

It’s not the GOP winning that concerns me, it’s which candidates on that side win. Some I’d be fine with. Others shouldn’t touch power with a ten foot pole.

As for competent leadership, I have no clue why anyone on here thinks a party run by Trump and Kevin McCarthy brings any semblance of competency any more than Biden and Nancy. Our election cycles are so tribal and petty, we have a shyster and a guy with brain damage running in PA.
 
Lake isn’t a lock and I fail to see how NY goes red in the governors race. I feel the House prediction is likely accurate. Senate still a toss up.

It’s not the GOP winning that concerns me, it’s which candidates on that side win. Some I’d be fine with. Others shouldn’t touch power with a ten foot pole.

As for competent leadership, I have no clue why anyone on here thinks a party run by Trump and Kevin McCarthy brings any semblance of competency any more than Biden and Nancy. Our election cycles are so tribal and petty, we have a shyster and a guy with brain damage running in PA.
I wish there was an easy way to bet you on Lake. She will win by at least 5 points.

Not sure if she’s up for this but she will be on a list of VP running mates maybe as early as 2024.

Congrats - you are the only one I’ve heard predict Senate as toss up. Even the NYT ,Politico, 538, etc basically every polling org has senate going to Rs. The most accurate past pollsters say 53-54. The less accurate, wrong in over predicting Dems in past like 538 and NYT / politico say Rs get around 52.

I think even left favoring 538 gave Rs a 87 in 100 chance in holding senate. 87% isn’t tossup. More accurate pollsters like trafalgar have it more in a 53-54 R senate seat range.
 
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Lake isn’t a lock and I fail to see how NY goes red in the governors race. I feel the House prediction is likely accurate. Senate still a toss up.

It’s not the GOP winning that concerns me, it’s which candidates on that side win. Some I’d be fine with. Others shouldn’t touch power with a ten foot pole.

As for competent leadership, I have no clue why anyone on here thinks a party run by Trump and Kevin McCarthy brings any semblance of competency any more than Biden and Nancy. Our election cycles are so tribal and petty, we have a shyster and a guy with brain damage running in PA.
Lake is going to drag her big ole beautiful breasticles all over that dumbass in Az. And wash your eyes out on the NY race. I really hope New Yorkers aren't stupid enough to keep "Hoe-chul" in office.
 
I know who he is. What you wrote sounds like a hodgepodge of crumbs from @randman1 's conspiracy table. Big crumbs, of course. A full meal for gullible people who want to believe something that wasn't actually proven.

I found this:

But, I'm not sure I can trust it since I had to use Google to find it!
Yes nothing screams conspiracy like proven court-admissible evidence from a (lifelong democrat BTW) data scientist who has dedicated his recent life to capturing technological filtering, censoring, etc algorithms.

“in this household we believe in science” …am I doing it right? But you do you.
 
Lake is going to drag her big ole beautiful breasticles all over that dumbass in Az. And wash your eyes out on the NY race. I really hope New Yorkers aren't stupid enough to keep "Hoe-chul" in office.
I have to admit I find her quite attractive in many ways. You can tell she is tv / communications trained and experienced. Never rattled, always smooth in her answers. So appealing and relatable to whoever she speaks to.

Her husband is Latino. She is killing Hobbs on almost every group including Latinos - important in AZ.

Maybe the best part is how she slices and dices the media morons who come at her with such weak sauce. They hate her, which makes sense given how easily thoroughly she consistently humiliates these weak soft incompetent morons.
 
Yes nothing screams conspiracy like proven court-admissible evidence from a (lifelong democrat BTW) data scientist who has dedicated his recent life to capturing technological filtering, censoring, etc algorithms.

“in this household we believe in science” …am I doing it right? But you do you.
I don't want your version of what you think he said. You're less coherent than ran man. As if that were possible.
 
@blazers ... Repubs win both house and senate .... if i'm right you owe me $50, if they only win one of them i owe you $25.

i assume you wont bet that the Dems win both, so we'll leave that out.
You're a real pro oddsmaker! I already said House was going Red. So your proposal reads like: Repubs win senate I owe you 50, Dems win senate you owe me 25.
 
You're a real pro oddsmaker! I already said House was going Red. So your proposal reads like: Repubs win senate I owe you 50, Dems win senate you owe me 25.
wrong, you said "I THINK the house will goes to the Repubs" ... that told me you aren't sure.

anywho ... you'd rather only bet solely on the senate result, fine with me, $50 USD. are we on?
 
I have to admit I find her quite attractive in many ways. You can tell she is tv / communications trained and experienced. Never rattled, always smooth in her answers. So appealing and relatable to whoever she speaks to.

Her husband is Latino. She is killing Hobbs on almost every group including Latinos - important in AZ.

Maybe the best part is how she slices and dices the media morons who come at her with such weak sauce. They hate her, which makes sense given how easily thoroughly she consistently humiliates these weak soft incompetent morons.

Dude she’s f**king crazy. Lake is another election denier. She’s stated she will only accept a result in which she wins. You don’t elect crazy.
 
Dude she’s f**king crazy. Lake is another election denier. She’s stated she will only accept a result in which she wins. You don’t elect crazy.
You make it sound like that's a bad thing to these people who like her. They love that aspect about her. Crazy is clearly a subjective thing.
 
Oz and Masters: Hark w
Oz and Kelly: push
Fetterman and Kelly: Blazers w

bitcoin ok?
I'm down with that bet.

I don't know how to pay/receive bitcoin though (I'm assuming I need a coinbase account or something?). I'd prefer venmo/paypal unless you can walk me through an easy way to do bitcoin.

How much are we thinking?
 
Dude she’s f**king crazy. Lake is another election denier. She’s stated she will only accept a result in which she wins. You don’t elect crazy.
Dude she’s f**king crazy. Lake is another election denier. She’s stated she will only accept a result in which she wins. You don’t elect crazy.
She has said no such thing. Provide a direct quote or vid from her, not The Nation or Mother Jones or whenever you get your info - or you’re FOS and it didn’t happen.

I can tell you haven’t watched her recently. NFW did she say what you posted.

All she is saying is in the US it is our right to free speech and to ask questions. Or is it only election denying when conservatives do it - but NOT when Hillary, Abrams tank in Ga, Al Gore, basically all Ds in 2000,2004, 2016 💯 were election deniers?

GRFO with that one-sided “election denier” BS
 
I'm down with that bet.

I don't know how to pay/receive bitcoin though (I'm assuming I need a coinbase account or something?). I'd prefer venmo/paypal unless you can walk me through an easy way to do bitcoin.

How much are we thinking?
Coinbase is what I have for crypto. It's pretty easy to set up. Transferring cash is easy. Not sure about transferring crypto.
 
She has said no such thing. Provide a direct quote or vid from her, not The Nation or Mother Jones or whenever you get your info - or you’re FOS and it didn’t happen.

I can tell you haven’t watched her recently. NFW did she say what you posted.

All she is saying is in the US it is our right to free speech and to ask questions. Or is it only election denying when conservatives do it - but NOT when Hillary, Abrams tank in Ga, Al Gore, basically all Ds in 2000,2004, 2016 💯 were election deniers?

GRFO with that one-sided “election denier” BS

She was asked if she’d concede if she lost. Her reply: I’ll going to win the election and I’ll accept that result. That’s not exactly encouraging coming from someone who doesn’t believe Biden won.

And GTFO with those false equivalencies. Did Democrats actually try to prevent Bush from taking power leading up to the certification? No. Did they run on a campaign that Bush was illegitimate? No. Did they encourage rabid imbeciles to storm the Capitol Building? No. No one denied anything in any of those years.

I’m sick of you people giving this “well both sides” do it BS. It’s categorically false.
 
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She was asked if she’d concede if she lost. Her reply: I’ll going to win the election and I’ll accept that result. That’s not exactly encouraging coming from someone who doesn’t believe Biden won.

And GTFO with those false equivalencies. Did Democrats actually try to prevent Bush from taking power leading up to the certification? No. Did they run on a campaign that Bush was illegitimate? No. Did they encourage rabid imbeciles to storm the Capitol Building? No. No one denied anything in any of those years.

I’m sick of you people giving this “well both sides” do it BS. It’s categorically false.
Right. Good thing the left didn’t call DJT illegitimate for four years. Great point.

And for the record there was way more death and destruction and personal injury and property damage at/ after DJT inauguration than at the J6 inside job protest. Or am I supposed to call it an insurrection- one with no guns, knives, explosives, mostly boomers, where the cops held the doors open. And the only death was Ashley Babbitt via a rogue incompetent cop.

Worst. Insurrection. Ever.

It’s all good though. Despite about two years of the left and media and the kangaroo court pushing J6 on us - 95+ % of the people have zero Fking clue what J6 date even is, let alone vote on it vs real issues impacting their lives.
 
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It is good to have @Heelicious back. Where you been, fella? Still being held hostage in god forsaken Minneapolis?
Thanks @gunslingerdick Yes still here and I think my job might keep me here a couple more years but am looking for houses in original home state of South Dakota near Black Hills.

Such a mass exodus from this state and other blue states. Minneapolis and St. Paul were once great cities. Now gone and not coming back. Destroyed by the mayors, Governor, blm / Floyd riots, Covid over-reaction.

I’m looking forward to getting out of this city and state to a pretty place near a small city, in beautiful. (small) mountains - with way more normal common sense good hearted people who are charitable and help abundantly this who need it but otherwise everyone leaves each other alone. The people and the government. That is the difference between SD and the twin cities in Minnesota. Polar opposites.
 
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