Either way it points to a systemic disadvantage for black folks in the legal system.
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Either way it points to a systemic disadvantage for black folks in the legal system.
What a cop out. Cry about the justice system and then don't give any credit to the guy who signed the reform bill into law.
Black folks are disproportionately impacted by poverty, so there’s no difference. And poverty doesn’t account for poor black people getting harsher sentences than poor white people. They account for these kinds of variables in scientific studies.
Nobody is crying about anything. I’m glad trump signed it, but he has never shown any interest in criminal reform for black folks, and he had nothing to do with that legislation, aside from putting his name on it when it was finished.
There's only no difference if you claim that black people can't be successful. Your argument is actually racist.
He could have vetoed it if he didn't agree with the bill. He listened to the people putting the bill forth and decided that he should sign it. He took action to pass the bill. This rant of yours is TDS at its finest.
That is laughably stupid. Black folks obviously can be successful. But on average, they have to overcome more to get there. Just because its possible for black folks to be successful doesn't mean its equally easy for them.
I never even made an argument. It's an economic fact that black folks are disproportionately impacted by poverty. If you're going to argue that, then you are an idiot.
They didn't have to overcome more than I did. I grew up poor. However, my life choices led me to where I am now. Most of us have obstacles to overcome. Conquering them is part of growing up and becoming an adult. The bigotry of low expectations doesn't help anyone involved.
Nobody cares about what you personally overcame. Econometrics is about the averages, and on average, poor black folks have more to overcome than poor white folks. Sorry if that hurts your feelings buttercup, but you still had it a lot easier than tons of poor black folks, who for example, are less likely to get a call back after a job interview, because of their skin color.
This has nothing to do with expectations. It's about outcomes on average. We have clear data on that. If you want to argue there are no socioeconomic disadvantages for racial minorities, then your are the one that has to make a racist argument about how the outcomes are explained by personality, not environment. Good luck with that.
Good thing under Trump black unemployment is at an all time low and getting lower.
That's just BS in this day and age of quotas. It's a shame that you think some sects of the US can't make it today because they can't overcome their skin color. That's nothing more than straight bigotry.
Oh, and there's no hurt feelings here, and no white guilt either. I conquered my obstacles and made it. I'm pretty damn happy right now and looking for other obstacles to overcome.
Meanwhile... Trump is attacking free speech by suggesting their should be "retribution" against SNL. It's hilarious that his supporters pretend to care about the constitution. Its also cute that his supporters talk about the left being sensitive snowflakes, when the Cheeto in chief doesn't even have the emotional stability to handle satire.
He gets credit for signing a bill that he had nothing to do with and isn't capable of reading.
What kind of retribution? The same type of retribution that is called for by people like Maxine Waters? Is he calling for them to be jailed? I'm not sure how this is a First Amendment issue. We need more info on this.
Your reading comprehension is trash. I already said that minorities can "make it."
So what's your explanation for why racial minorities are disproportionately impacted by poverty?
Every post just makes you look more and more petty. Grow up, snowflake!
Nearly half of his supporters think he should be able to shut down media outlets they don't like...
Which isn't surprising, considering the trump base are morons.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-news-outlets-republicans-say-poll/925536002/
A continuing chain of bad decisions. Can you tell me why the black community is worse off since LBJ's Great Society? That's a question more people should ponder instead of just shouting about "institutional racism", which doesn't do anybody any good.
Please demonstrate how trump is responsible for that statistic. Or do you always credit the current president with every detail of the economy?
So black people are only poor because they make bad decisions? Yikes. You sound like a racist POS. That's exactly what I expected.
Yeah, and there are a lot of people who think a baby should be allowed to be aborted at birth, or some people who think spending $50 trillion on a Green New Deal is a good idea. Stupid people are out there, buddy.
Of course, this is nothing more than a dodge or an attempt at obfuscation. You still haven't answered the question.
He will probably start wiretapping media personalities next, that's what a real asshole would do. Wonder how long before he stoops that low?
Poor people are constantly poor because they make bad decisions. If you want to attribute that to all black people, then have at it.
Well, lowering taxes brings more jobs. There is also the impact of not having to worry if your president is going to pass a job-stifling bill like the ACA either.
Yes because he is president at the moment. I'm an equal opportunity guy. I gave obama complete credit for all the stupid shit he did too.
While I think it is harder for a minority in some cases, this point is 100% accurate. There are thousands upon hundreds of thousands of recent cases where someone poor made good decisions and worked hard to no longer be poor.
Lol so you think the president is completely responsible for the economy? That's cute. I'm sure you completely blamed Bush for crashing the economy in 2008, and gave Obama complete credit for the massive turnaround...
That isn't the point being debated. Of course black people can be successful if they make good decisions. But if they start equally poor, and make the same decisions, then on average it will still be harder for a minority.
I think in some cases yes, but most no. Why do you feel on avg it is harder for a minority?
Never said they were solely responsible, I said they get the credit, pay attention and keep better notes. And obamas turnaround was the slowest in history, it sucked.
Because some professor told him so.
Because that’s what the econometrics tell me. When we study this stuff we control for every possibly variable so that race is the only distinction. And on average, all other things being equal, black folks have worse economic outcomes than white folks. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible for black folks to be successful, but it suggests something is holding them back to some extent.
So you think that “something” is outside of their control most of the time?
I disagree.
It’s also impossible to have “all other things equal” when dealing with humans. None of us are equal, especially when you’re thinking about things that are immeasurable like work ethic, drive, etc
Yes. The stats are true across socioeconomic environments. The only other explanation is there is some genetic difference between black and white folks that explains it. Which is essentially racism, or racialism at the very least.
And it’s never going to be perfectly equal, that’s why we have to use models. The idea is to account for every variables possible that might influence earnings. I’m not saying the models are perfect, but we aren’t doing an analysis for individuals. It’s about trends and averages. One data point isn’t enough to make a determination of anything.
ETA: I’m not calling you a racist. Just saying that is the implication based on my understanding of the data. I can see how you would have a different perspective if you aren’t studying that kind of stuff everyday.
That’s fine. But it’s a complete cop out to say someone is poor because they are black.
Poor people, for the very much most part, are poor because they make bad decisions or do not do the things to make them not poor.
Not to change the subject but what in the world did Anthony Hamilton do to the star spangled banner? We doing remixes now?
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