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Weak.

The match is over. You can keep replying if you like. But the outcome has been decided.

GFY, but for you, I feel the need to clarify that I don’t mean that literally.
 
Jesus…I feel bad when I start roasting you folks. It’s not even fun. Y’all are so lame. Somebody come get RuPaul up out of here before I body him even more.

Looks like Strum wants a piece.
 
Geez man, I didn't know you had a fetish. I guess you're one among many closet cases in red America downloading that forbidden porn. How typically Christian of you.

What’s Christianity have to do with this? Besides, I have tons of shit I have to repent for. What’s one more? Add whatever you want to the list.

But if you’re not careful, the beating I’m handing out will have you spending a few nights in the women’s domestic violence shelter.
 
What’s Christianity have to do with this? Besides, I have tons of shit I have to repent for. What’s one more? Add whatever you want to the list.

But if you’re not careful, the beating I’m handing out will have you spending a few nights in the women’s domestic violence shelter.

Lol is all this toxic bravado what it takes to make you feel good about yourself?

Man you must be sadder than I thought.
 
The only problem I have with mail in voting is the fact that you don't know who is filling out the ballot! Or how many of them are being filled out by people more than once!

It's sad in the day and age of technology that we have to rely on the USPS to vote for POTUS!
 
The only problem I have with mail in voting is the fact that you don't know who is filling out the ballot! Or how many of them are being filled out by people more than once!

It's sad in the day and age of technology that we have to rely on the USPS to vote for POTUS!
I filled out all 197 of my ballots. My Soros check was well spent!
 
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I filled out all 197 of my ballots. My Soros check was well spent!
I don't think there was enough cheating or what ever you want to call it going on to effect the election. But what is the harm in being 100% sure that everyone eligible to vote gets to and being 100% sure that everyone not eligible to vote don't get to?
 
I don't think there was enough cheating or what ever you want to call it going on to effect the election. But what is the harm in being 100% sure that everyone eligible to vote gets to and being 100% sure that everyone not eligible to vote don't get to?
Harm for people like you and I? No harm at all.

Personally, I don't think that people who are "not eligible to vote" are spending any time or effort on voting.
 
I'm not saying people are being oppressed. I'm saying that to ban mail in voting because it could 'potentially' be abused makes no sense, especially when no one has given any demonstrable evidence that it has been abused. It's a solution in search a problem.

And on the voting aspect of things, if we want a more engaged citizenry, we have to act like it. Maybe make Election Day a national holiday. Maybe instead of gutting public education, we invest more money into it, especially in rural and poor areas. We need to actually walk that walk. But until then, it's just pure anxiety to create a giant fuss around mail in voting.
No evidence? Really? Are You for real?

" The whisteblower — whose identity, rap sheet and long history working as a consultant to various campaigns were confirmed by The Post — says he not only changed ballots himself over the years, but led teams of fraudsters and mentored at least 20 operatives in New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania — a critical 2020 swing state.

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This is a real thing,” he said. “And there is going to be a f–king war coming November 3rd over this stuff … If they knew how the sausage was made, they could fix it.”

Mail-in voting can be complicated — tough enough that 84,000 New Yorkers had their mailed votes thrown out in the June 23 Democratic presidential primary for incorrectly filling them out.

But for political pros, they’re a piece of cake. In New Jersey, for example, it begins with a blank mail-in ballot delivered to a registered voter in a large envelope. Inside the packet is a return envelope, a “certificate of mail in voter” which the voter must sign, and the ballot itself.

That’s when the election-rigger springs into action.

Phony ballots

The ballot has no specific security features — like a stamp or a watermark — so the insider said he would just make his own ballots.

“I just put [the ballot] through the copy machine and it comes out the same way,” the insider said.

But the return envelopes are “more secure than the ballot. You could never recreate the envelope,” he said. So they had to be collected from real voters.
He would have his operatives fan out, going house to house, convincing voters to let them mail completed ballots on their behalf as a public service. The fraudster and his minions would then take the sealed envelopes home and hold them over boiling water.

“You have to steam it to loosen the glue,” said the insider.

He then would remove the real ballot, place the counterfeit ballot inside the signed certificate, and reseal the envelope.

“Five minutes per ballot tops,” said the insider.

The insider said he took care not to stuff the fake ballots into just a few public mailboxes, but sprinkle them around town. That way he avoided the attention that foiled a sloppy voter-fraud operation in a Paterson, NJ, city council race this year, where 900 ballots were found in just three mailboxes.

“If they had spread them in all different mailboxes, nothing would have happened,” the insider said."

 
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The tipster said sometimes postal employees are in on the scam.

“You have a postman who is a rabid anti-Trump guy and he’s working in Bedminster or some Republican stronghold … He can take those [filled-out] ballots, and knowing 95% are going to a Republican, he can just throw those in the garbage.”

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In some cases, mail carriers were members of his “work crew,” and would sift ballots from the mail and hand them over to the operative."
|https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/
 
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When all else failed, the insider would send operatives to vote live in polling stations, particularly in states like New Jersey and New York that do not require voter ID. Pennsylvania, also for the most part, does not.

The best targets were registered voters who routinely skip presidential or municipal elections — information which is publicly available."
 
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The insider said any ballots offered up by him or his operation would come with a bent corner along the voter certificate — which contains the voter signature — so Democratic Board of Election counters would know the fix was in and not to object.

“It doesn’t stay bent, but you can tell it’s been bent,” the tipster said. “Until the [certificate] is approved, the ballot doesn’t matter. They don’t get to see the ballot unless they approve the [certificate.]”

“I invented bending corners,” the insider boasted, saying once the fixed ballots were mixed in with the normal ones, the bed was made. “Once a ballot is opened, it’s an anonymous ballot.”
 
CRB, no fraud? Really? How about tens of thousands of fake ballots?

" The audit team announced that 74,243 more mail-in ballots were included in the Maricopa County official tally than were mailed out."

Maybe the hormones are screwing up your mind?

 
No evidence? Really? Are You for real?

" The whisteblower — whose identity, rap sheet and long history working as a consultant to various campaigns were confirmed by The Post — says he not only changed ballots himself over the years, but led teams of fraudsters and mentored at least 20 operatives in New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania — a critical 2020 swing state.

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This is a real thing,” he said. “And there is going to be a f–king war coming November 3rd over this stuff … If they knew how the sausage was made, they could fix it.”

Mail-in voting can be complicated — tough enough that 84,000 New Yorkers had their mailed votes thrown out in the June 23 Democratic presidential primary for incorrectly filling them out.

But for political pros, they’re a piece of cake. In New Jersey, for example, it begins with a blank mail-in ballot delivered to a registered voter in a large envelope. Inside the packet is a return envelope, a “certificate of mail in voter” which the voter must sign, and the ballot itself.

That’s when the election-rigger springs into action.

Phony ballots

The ballot has no specific security features — like a stamp or a watermark — so the insider said he would just make his own ballots.

“I just put [the ballot] through the copy machine and it comes out the same way,” the insider said.

But the return envelopes are “more secure than the ballot. You could never recreate the envelope,” he said. So they had to be collected from real voters.
He would have his operatives fan out, going house to house, convincing voters to let them mail completed ballots on their behalf as a public service. The fraudster and his minions would then take the sealed envelopes home and hold them over boiling water.

“You have to steam it to loosen the glue,” said the insider.

He then would remove the real ballot, place the counterfeit ballot inside the signed certificate, and reseal the envelope.

“Five minutes per ballot tops,” said the insider.

The insider said he took care not to stuff the fake ballots into just a few public mailboxes, but sprinkle them around town. That way he avoided the attention that foiled a sloppy voter-fraud operation in a Paterson, NJ, city council race this year, where 900 ballots were found in just three mailboxes.

“If they had spread them in all different mailboxes, nothing would have happened,” the insider said."

Do you EVER stop to consider that the echo chamber you live in is... MAYBE... not all that reliable? It's a rhetorical question, of course.
 
And on the voting aspect of things, if we want a more engaged citizenry, we have to act like it. Maybe make Election Day a national holiday. Maybe instead of gutting public education, we invest more money into it, especially in rural and poor areas.
100% would agree with having a holiday on election day, it's that important. As to "gutting public education", what is that? Are you suggesting that funding to public education has actually gone down? I must have missed the memo. All I ever see is them crying for more and more money and the amounts spent per pupil going up. Someone can enlighten me I suppose.
Yes, it allowed soldiers to vote at the front. But don't tell that to the pearl clutchers who deliberately distort the discussion.
We both know that is not "mail in voting", but absentee voting. It may have been accomplished through the mail, but it was nothing like the system used the last couple of times since covid games. In that instance. they literally mail out a ballot to everyone on the voter roles without them ever asking for it or ever having a need such as fighting at the front. Imagine if they had done that during the civil war - that is, they just mailed out ballots to those addresses listed on their voting rolls. The 19th Amendment wasn't even certified until 1920. So, here would be the little woman back home getting a ballot for their man who was off fighting the war. She'd fill it out and return it when she herself couldn't even vote.
 
Do you EVER stop to consider that the echo chamber you live in is... MAYBE... not all that reliable? It's a rhetorical question, of course.
You mean actually paying attention to data and facts rather than be a brainwashed fellow like yourself.
 
Ole Joe doesn't know anything about the classified docs even though he had them moved twice and some were about Ukraine. And who hires lawyers to clean out closets? Seems he could have hired cheaper labor.
I dunno, it might have been a good move for him....I wouldn't want Billy Bob deciding what to hide and what not to trash.


ETA; it's hilarious that they are capitalizing on the comparative reactions between Trump and Biden on the discovery of documents. These assholes will end up making points with their fandom just because they aren't stupid enough to do anything that doesn't scream 'cooperation'. Hell, the way things go, it wouldn't surprise me if this was set up for that purpose. If Trump's docs are found to not be sensitive material (and Biden's handlers would surely already know), this would be another way of continuing to put Trump in a bad light comparatively.

I watched a CBS report on the matter, and they seemed to be very careful to not touch on the fact that those documents were where they weren't supposed to be. It was all about Trump's situation compared to Biden's. Does that surprise me? Of course not.
 
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" Where was Wray’s focus in 2020 when violent anarchists attempted to establish an “autonomous zone” in Seattle, rioters attacked a federal courthouse in Portland, and looters burned businesses in Minneapolis? Instead, in recent years the FBI devoted large swaths of its $10 billion budget to investigate Christians praying outside abortion clinics, parents speaking loudly at school board meetings, and citizens expressing election fraud concerns on social media.

Wray calls for law enforcement agencies to “better engage with communities we serve to earn their trust and cooperation.” Did Wray seriously believe that deploying the FBI’s hostage rescue team to aid the execution of a search warrant at the home of a former American president would earn trust and cooperation from the public? How has utilizing a dozen undercover agents and informants to entrap and criminally charge a small group of men with conspiring to “kidnap” the governor of Michigan endeared the FBI to America? Does the FBI’s complete failure to achieve any perceivable progress in the identification and apprehension of the January 6th RNC/DNC pipe bomber warrant public praise and adulation?"

 
100% would agree with having a holiday on election day, it's that important. As to "gutting public education", what is that? Are you suggesting that funding to public education has actually gone down? I must have missed the memo. All I ever see is them crying for more and more money and the amounts spent per pupil going up. Someone can enlighten me I suppose.

We both know that is not "mail in voting", but absentee voting. It may have been accomplished through the mail, but it was nothing like the system used the last couple of times since covid games. In that instance. they literally mail out a ballot to everyone on the voter roles without them ever asking for it or ever having a need such as fighting at the front. Imagine if they had done that during the civil war - that is, they just mailed out ballots to those addresses listed on their voting rolls. The 19th Amendment wasn't even certified until 1920. So, here would be the little woman back home getting a ballot for their man who was off fighting the war. She'd fill it out and return it when she herself couldn't even vote.

Well I'm glad we agree on the Election Day part.

As far public education, let me rephrase. The way it's funded should be changed. And I'm deeply suspicious of people who emphasize charter schools as a substitution (ala Betsy DeVos). I should mention I think too many places in our country don't place enough emphasis on education itself. Again, a topic for another day.

Look, technology has changed drastically since the 1860s, which goes without saying. I'm quite sure if the wife of a soldier could have the option of mail in voting the way we do now, she'd take it. I just do not get the wild paranoia over mail in voting when there haven't even been any issues with it. Seems to me like it's a red herring more than anything else.

We can't fall into the trap of politicizing everything to the point where rational thought goes out the window.
 
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