Riiiiiiight. All the other liberal media outlets are innocent, they would never push a lie to further their agenda.
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what a dumb bitch. She's comparing apples to oranges and declaring 'it's all vegetables'.
"They eventually began discussing it when more facts were found and they were forced to report on them in a futile attempt to gain back a shred of credibility."
sorry, I had to modify your post to inject some reality into it.
Who said they didn't? Those situations you mentioned aren't legally the same, though. But again, you're just deflecting. The discussion was specifically about Fox. If you wanted to make some grand statement about media bias, then just post it. No need to respond to the topic that was being discussed, which wasn't about media bias.
I apologize if this has been mentioned, but the lib crowd routinely took Jon Stewart's comedy as news. It was comedy BASED on news, but if one was paying attention to what he was saying, he most often twisted or ignored the facts in order to create a setup for a good line or two. Think Heels Noir, only grown up and funny.
If you were not on the receiving end of his sarcastic approach, which he was VERY good at, it was annoying at best; if you were on the other side, it was hilarious and mindlessly accepted as the truth.
My hope is that media companies second guess themselves and focus more on actual news. Billions of dollars is certainly a strong incentive.
That was always presented as a possibility, just not likely based on the evidence that was available to the public. The evidence still isn't available. The only difference is the FBI has said it's most likely what happened. Other agencies still list it as a low possibility. Got to love the intelligence agencies in America.
Your first sentence is 100% spot on. This applies to all of them.
And I know this will come off as whataboutism, but the thing is specifically in regard to Fox and Carlson, et al,. we've gotten the benefit of a peak behind the curtain as to their private texts and such indicating their actual opinions. Wouldn't it be delicious to get those same snippets from the people at CNN, MSNBC, as well as the government agencies? Our minds would be blown.
I would hope so, but it appears they haven't learned their lessons in the wake of other similar situations. Sandmann was suing for billions too. He actually got settlements, but you have to imagine they were a small fraction of that dollar figure. I guess he can consider that a win because libel and slander type cases are very difficult to actually win on - I guess we'll see if this one bucks the trend.
what complete moron would that be informing? Is this why we have warnings like this?...
All this would do would be to give the entertainer an out when he is called on misrepresenting the facts. Those who want to believe will still believe.
That's what the above warning achieves. The manufacturer can probably avoid a lawsuit by pointing out that there was a warning. But idiots will still be idiots in spite of the warning.
You'd prefer he creates a new thread talking about something similar to the current discussion in this thread? What happened to keep all the political stuff in one thread?
the conservative radio station was mocking the Daily show and whoever the host was at the time, and credited them with a pretty funny line, which they played.
Evidently the Dept. of Agriculture recently announced that they have decided that the virus originated in the lab. The Daily Show host ran down the agencies who said lab (2), the ones who said market (4), and those who said they don't know (2).....eight various agencies altogether. He said it was all too inconclusive, so he was withholding judgement until he heard from the Dept. of Motor Vehicles.
Or it could have the effect that we saw with CNN. Their ratings were shit, so they did the right thing. They cleaned house, made public statements that they'll do better and from what I understand, they have. I haven't seen if the ratings have gone up or not though.
Doesn't need a new thread. Just don't quote someone who isn't talking about what you want to talk about. And it wasn't really that similar.
C'mon, ..."Communist John Denver" doesn't elicit a like out of you? I get that most of the board probably doesn't know who John Denver is but I know you're old enough to know better.
What's funny (sad?) is that these warning stickers are most likely there because someone actually did that.what complete moron would that be informing? Is this why we have warnings like this?...
All this would do would be to give the entertainer an out when he is called on misrepresenting the facts. Those who want to believe will still believe.
That's what the above warning achieves. The manufacturer can probably avoid a lawsuit by pointing out that there was a warning. But idiots will still be idiots in spite of the warning.
Do you think it's the responsibility of the company producing that stroller to warn folks about such? I do not.
I'm so old I even know what a communist is.
And LOL, stop begging for likes, you get plenty of them from me.
That's the guy who stood next to an Indian, right? I think he got less than six figures, so not much incentive. It's crazy how much evidence dominion has on Fox. When your CEO says you were doing what you are being sued for, then you know you have a problem.
neither do I or any other sensible person. But that doesn't stop companies from getting sued because of something like someone setting up an extension ladder in a cowpie (true story). I believe there's something to the factoid that ladders are so expensive due to the sheer number of lawsuits and judgements and settlements inflicted on them.
Putting a warning label on a ladder is like putting a warning label on dirt. But it's necessary from a legal standpoint.
I wouldn't have a problem with that, assuming there is no national security risk when talking about government agencies.
Not only did they do that, but they sued the manufacturer, the distributer, and the store that sold it, then a jury probably awarded them some dough.
I just read that his suits were thrown out, and that's what's wrong with our handling of the media. The suits were thrown out on the basis of 'unverifiable information' (the Indian's words), yet the stories trashing Sandmann were run on the same basis.
I believe in freedom of speech as much as anyone, but abuse of that freedom, for commercial purposes especially, such that it brings undue shame and disgrace and harm in any form to others should be subject to censoring and/or punishment.
America, home of the lawsuit and stupid people!
I said I don't know if the ratings would say that or not. But I know they brought in new leadership, fired a bunch of losers that were doing what y'all are claiming Carlson is doing and said that their model was terrible and they needed to change their image. That was a good start.
Well I didn't mean ratings wise, I was just surprised you were giving a liberal MSM organization credit.
yep. With my HVAC company, I tried to draw a clear line between our work and the work of other trades, and to install according to the manufacturers direction and not what was just reasonable. Because when a lawsuit comes down, it will cast as wide a net as possible, in the hopes that money will be shaken out from somewhere.
Which brings me to one of my faorite soapbox items. Our system of justice sucks in so many ways, but one of the main faults is when a lawyer instigates a lawsuit hoping only for a settlement, knowing that, and relying on, the fact that a trial will cost the defendent more. It's legal extortion, and it's beyond shameful.
You think you'd see internal memos that say:
"the blind repairman with Hunter's laptop seems legit"
"No, it isn't weird that Rudy only shared the laptop story with Murdoch-owned affiliates"
"Bannon is manufacturing images of child abuse residing on some drive and spreading them on the dark-web thru Guo Wengui, seems like this may have legs"
"former intel officers wrote letter saying this smells like foreign disinfo, but let's run with it as a legit october surprise"
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There have been tons of updates from cnn and others saying "we've done our research and are concluding there are parts of the laptop that are true".
The FBI might have the laptop, but they can't legally comment... so it is going to take awhile for a CNN or NBC, etc to vet a story... there still are unanswered questions regarding the contents, so even "facts" are sparse aside from pics which tell us Hunter has a drug problem.
How many Fox stories come out and say "we admit the election-fraud stuff is horse-shit and we knew that from the get-go?"
I think it would be great if they did. It's not like their viewers would suddenly stop watching them. Even if Donald Trump came out and said he was lying about claiming the election was fraudulent, they would still continue to support him. I have seen so many people watch TV news and become addicted to it just like it's alcohol or heroin. Just make up an excuse for why they believe their trusted source caved in, and continue on using the drug.
In that scenario, I’d weigh Trump’s lying against Biden’s lying. I’d also take into account the other things I like and don’t like about each. And in the end, I suspect that I’d be willing to overlook Trump’s lying as I dislike more Biden’s lying and policies. I wouldn’t deny that Trump lied to me. I’d either be ok with it or I wouldn’t based on the other choice.
In other words, I feel things are so bad right now that Trump would have to do a lot more than lie to me before I’d leave his camp.
You sound like a battered woman who refuses to leave an abusive relationship.
I know you come here to get your puss virtually knocked up, but if someone is hitting you at home you need to speak up.
I would have guessed that would be your perspective, but thanks for offering it by your own volition.
"Tell me what I want to hear, even if they are lies, and I'll continue to support you in spite of the lies, and forgive you for the lies, and, in doing so, invite more lies. As long as they make me feel good, I'm happy!" That's a junkie mindset. Americans love being lied to, they count on it! Dishonesty is integral in American political culture!
I would have guessed that would be your perspective, but thanks for offering it by your own volition.
"Tell me what I want to hear, even if they are lies, and I'll continue to support you in spite of the lies, and forgive you for the lies, and, in doing so, invite more lies. As long as they make me feel good, I'm happy!" That's a junkie mindset. Americans love being lied to, they count on it! Dishonesty is integral in American political culture!
Jokes on you and anyone that has ever voted. Newsflash, whoever you voted for, they lied to you.
Interesting theory:
Shame makes people living in poverty more supportive of authoritarianism, study finds
A series of three studies in Germany found that people living in poverty frequently experience exclusion from different aspects of society and devaluation leading to the feeling of shame. Such shame, in turn, increases their support for authoritarianism due to the promise that that they will be...
www.psypost.org
psychobullshit. Somebody with too much time on their hands dreaming up possible explanations for things that don't bear explanation.Interesting theory:
Shame makes people living in poverty more supportive of authoritarianism, study finds
A series of three studies in Germany found that people living in poverty frequently experience exclusion from different aspects of society and devaluation leading to the feeling of shame. Such shame, in turn, increases their support for authoritarianism due to the promise that that they will be...www.psypost.org
And the article was written by an illiterate, as is not uncommon anymore. I made it through a paragraph.
What's the matter, blue, did the article hit too close to home for you? Did the author hit a nerve with all the references to poverty, shame, and submission to authority?
Instead of being so quick to dismiss you should note that these people are far more likely to support the democrat party. People like to paint the repubs as the domineering law keeper (and they can be in certain areas) when in fact the democrats are much more authoritarian in their policies imo.
Are you so deep in the agenda, the TDS, and the defend your peeps at all costs that you can't even see a simple point?
Give me the examples and show me where we have had the benefit of seeing the personal, behind the scene texts and communications of those listed. Defend "CNN or NBC, etc" all you want, because that's what you do, but even you would likely see an entirely different story if we got to see the rest of the story versus what they put out on the airwaves and internet. Indeed, I think we'd not only see the existence of differing personal opinions from what's pumped out, but we'd actually find a mass effort to jointly communicate certain "messages" because it can't just be simple coincidence that every story and issue seem to always have the same phrases and language used to describe them.
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