OOTB's Political Thread . ..

[gunslingerdick]

The case against Trump is weak. This will backfire.

Twitter's Elon Musk predicts Trump will win re-election in 'landslide victory' if arrested

Twitter CEO Elon Musk is predicting that an indictment of former President Donald Trump could lead to his landslide victory in the 2024 presidential election.

www.foxnews.com

 

[tarheel0910]

The case against Trump is weak. This will backfire.

Twitter's Elon Musk predicts Trump will win re-election in 'landslide victory' if arrested

Twitter CEO Elon Musk is predicting that an indictment of former President Donald Trump could lead to his landslide victory in the 2024 presidential election.

www.foxnews.com

I don't think anything is going to happen on Tuesday. He's just using it for fundraising. My guess is yesterday was one of his best fundraising days since he announced he was running.

 

[pooponduke]

Every time this shithead doesn't get his way, he encourages his cult to break laws.

Telling his followers to "PROTEST" is equivalent to encouraging his cult to break laws??? This is the exact problem with usurping word definition and changing meanings to fit one's agenda.

Guess you're saying that he should have said for his cult to "MOSTLY PEACEFUL PROTEST" similar to antifa/blm/who knows and it would have been ok.

 

[strummingram]

Telling his followers to "PROTEST" is equivalent to encouraging his cult to break laws??? This is the exact problem with usurping word definition and changing meanings to fit one's agenda.

Guess you're saying that he should have said for his cult to "MOSTLY PEACEFUL PROTEST" similar to antifa/blm/who knows and it would have been ok.

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot about his ability to weave the best euphemisms.

And, you get etra points for "what about them?"

 

[strummingram]

I don't think anything is going to happen on Tuesday. He's just using it for fundraising. My guess is yesterday was one of his best fundraising days since he announced he was running.

Agree... he's pretending to be the victim again to squeeze more $$$ from the cult.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Agree... he's pretending to be the victim again to squeeze more $$$ from the cult.

Are you giving him money?

 

[gunslingerdick]

Telling his followers to "PROTEST" is equivalent to encouraging his cult to break laws??? This is the exact problem with usurping word definition and changing meanings to fit one's agenda.

Guess you're saying that he should have said for his cult to "MOSTLY PEACEFUL PROTEST" similar to antifa/blm/who knows and it would have been ok.

It’s ok when she says it. She’s black.

 

[strummingram]

Are you giving him money?

No... I'm not.

 

[gunslingerdick]

No... I'm not.

Then what do you care? No one is opining on where you spend your money

 

[strummingram]

Then what do you care? No one is opining on where you spend your money

What do you care if I throw shade on his cult followers?

 

[bluetoe]

It’s ok when she says it. She’s black. And/or a democrat.

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fine tuned it a little.

 

[gunslingerdick]

What do you care if I throw shade on his cult followers?

You profess to be a live and let live guy. Just pointing out that your commenting on that isn’t consistent with that sentiment.

But I don’t really care. I’m not giving him or any politician money. I’m a bit jealous though that I haven’t thought up a scheme yet to get people to give me money.

 

[strummingram]

You profess to be a live and let live guy. Just pointing out that your commenting on that isn’t consistent with that sentiment.

But I don’t really care. I’m not giving him or any politician money. I’m a bit jealous though that I haven’t thought up a scheme yet to get people to give me money.

Is that what I "profess to be?"

If I am live and let live and I point out that I think delusional people are being exploited by a demagogue... where's the inconsistency? The way I see it, they're practically begging to be exploited. Making that observation doesn't mean I'm trying to stop them from doing their thing.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Is that what I "profess to be?"

If I am live and let live and I point out that I think delusional people are being exploited by a demagogue... where's the inconsistency? The way I see it, they're practically begging to be exploited. Making that observation doesn't mean I'm trying to stop them from doing their thing.

Fair enough. Just seems strange you’d care enough to comment. I went back through the thread and didn’t see anyone making any comments about those giving money to Joe Biden.

 

[pooponduke]

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot about his ability to weave the best euphemisms.

And, you get etra points for "what about them?"

Hardly whataboutism. Rather, it was about context. Orange says to protest and it's a call to arms for the law breaking robotic followers. Anyone else actually riots and it's called a mostly peaceful protest. That's not whataboutism, that's hypocrisy based on a political agenda and narrative. All that being said, I still think it was idiotic to post and agree that there's more to the messaging - there always is, particularly with him.

 

[strummingram]

Hardly whataboutism. Rather, it was about context. Orange says to protest and it's a call to arms for the law breaking robotic followers. Anyone else actually riots and it's called a mostly peaceful protest. That's not whataboutism, that's hypocrisy based on a political agenda and narrative. All that being said, I still think it was idiotic to post and agree that there's more to the messaging - there always is, particularly with him.

Whew! Thanks for providing the "context!" And, I'm always eager to know what you consider idiotic. Your blatant objectivity-- eyeroll-- makes it such a valuable point to consider.

 

[Heels Noir]

Donald Trump's busy itinerary for the next couple of days is interesting and includes:
- Taking a flight aboard his private jet to New York City today
- Eating takeout in the comfort of his personal suite at Trump Tower while watching on TV the protests he requested tonight
- Reporting to the DA's office in lower Manhattan tomorrow for his arraignment, indictment, fingerprinting, mugshots . . .
- Holding the obligatory press conference on the front steps of the state Supreme Court building to complain about the corrupt local DA's office, George Soros, this latest "witch hunt," the injustice of the DOJ, etc., etc., etc.
- Stopping by Tiffany & Co. on 5th Ave. to shop for a bedazzled ankle monitor (like the one below):

I wonder if he'll have time to squeeze in a roll in the hay with Stormy before he flies back to Mar-a-Lago?

 

[gunslingerdick]

I’ve never seen someone try so hard to be funny and fail so badly at it. Eeesh.

 

[pooponduke]

Whew! Thanks for providing the "context!" And, I'm always eager to know what you consider idiotic. Your blatant objectivity-- eyeroll-- makes it such a valuable point to consider.

I may not have been clear that my reference to idiotic was trump's post and not yours, although some would argue it applied either way. Thanks for engaging in actual discourse and addressing the issue. . . oh wait . . . guess I'll just keep it going on the established level and say I'm rubber, you're glue . . . you know the rest.

 

[strummingram]

I may not have been clear that my reference to idiotic was trump's post and not yours, although some would argue it applied either way. Thanks for engaging in actual discourse and addressing the issue. . . oh wait . . . guess I'll just keep it going on the established level and say I'm rubber, you're glue . . . you know the rest.

I was never talking about or referring to BLM, or Antifa, or whoever else you were trying to drag into the discussion in order to draw attention away from the Trump cult. If they break laws, they should be prosecuted for it.

 

[pooponduke]

I was never talking about or referring to BLM, or Antifa, or whoever else you were trying to drag into the discussion in order to draw attention away from the Trump cult. If they break laws, they should be prosecuted for it.

Agreed. All of them, regular joe, political activist, politicians, or politicians' family members, all of them. And I wasn't trying to drag anyone into the discussion - I was simply pointing out the selective definitions applied to words. In this case, "protest".

 

[strummingram]

Agreed. All of them, regular joe, political activist, politicians, or politicians' family members, all of them. And I wasn't trying to drag anyone into the discussion - I was simply pointing out the selective definitions applied to words. In this case, "protest".

Selective definitions where???

 

[gunslingerdick]

I was never talking about or referring to BLM, or Antifa, or whoever else you were trying to drag into the discussion in order to draw attention away from the Trump cult. If they break laws, they should be prosecuted for it.

Whereas you are super quick to admonish the Trump cult and all of their transgressions, you have never been as eager to call out the rioters of the left. I get that this discussion was centering around Trump and his "cult". And you and others will claim whataboutism by simply pointing to the lack of responses from some here about the leftist rioters. But the next poast you make attacking the left's woke cult and the violence they continue to participate in will be your first.

 

[pooponduke]

Whereas you are super quick to admonish the Trump cult and all of their transgressions, you have never been as eager to call out the rioters of the left. I get that this discussion was centering around Trump and his "cult". And you and others will claim whataboutism by simply pointing to the lack of responses from some here about the leftist rioters. But the next poast you make attacking the left's woke cult and the violence they continue to participate in will be your first.

Trump's use of the word protest means a call to arms and law breaking in his interpretation. But when actual rioting is taking place and it is described as a mostly peaceful protest, he fails to acknowledge the flaw and wants to hide behind a claim of whataboutism. I long for the days when protesting simply meant protesting and rioting meant rioting regardless of who was doing it.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Trump's use of the word protest means a call to arms and law breaking in his interpretation. But when actual rioting is taking place and it is described as a mostly peaceful protest, he fails to acknowledge the flaw and wants to hide behind a claim of whataboutism. I long for the days when protesting simply meant protesting and rioting meant rioting regardless of who was doing it.

I long for the days when people didn't feel the need to protest. Or when they did, nobody cared.

That's exactly what is wrong with people today. People's lives are so empty and unfulfilling that they feel the need to wrap themselves in these social causes as a way to ignore their own failures. There was once a time when people worried about themselves and their families and frankly, we were better off because of it.

 

[blazers]

All press is good press for Trump, and great for America since he'll lose if he's the GOP nominee.

It's also fun to see MAGA/gop self-emoliate and abandon all morals while throwing themselves at the feet of a shyster crook while admitting, sometimes publicly but often behind closed doors, that they dislike and disrespect him.

 

[pooponduke]

All press is good press for Trump, and great for America since he'll lose if he's the GOP nominee.

It's also fun to see MAGA/gop self-emoliate and abandon all morals while throwing themselves at the feet of a shyster crook while admitting, sometimes publicly but often behind closed doors, that they dislike and disrespect him.

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Of course, it depends on who the D's nominate, the state of things at the time, etc., but I can't argue against what Lindsey says here.

Desantis must be loving it.

 

[bluetoe]

I’ve never seen someone try so hard to be funny and fail so badly at it. Eeesh.

Eeesh is right. It's cringeworthy. But he's consistently cringeworthy, you have to give him that.

The funny part is that when you try to clue him in, he just thinks he's really nailing it. I've never seen someone as desperate for validation as he is.

 

[blazers]

Which is stronger in repubs: love of Trump or hate of Biden? Repubs promoting Trump just gives better odds that Biden is nominated again by the Dems cuz they know he'll beat Trump again. And nobody really wants that. Trump self-inflicts wounds, and somehow he's convinced the right-wing to do the same.

 

[bluetoe]

Which is stronger in repubs: love of Trump or hate of Biden? Repubs promoting Trump just gives better odds that Biden is nominated again by the Dems cuz they know he'll beat Trump again. And nobody really wants that. Trump self-inflicts wounds, and somehow he's convinced the right-wing to do the same.

take a hint. The fact that you have to ask that should finally make it dawn on you that at base level, it isn't about Trump OR Biden. The left is repugnant to us, as is anyone who represents it as enthusiastically and stupidly as Biden does. By the same token, anyone who takes it on it as strongly as Trump has and does is someone to be venerated.

But the loathing of Biden-types means we'll elect anyone to oust them.

 

[Heels Noir]

I've never seen someone as desperate for validation as he is.

Look in the mirror, dumbass.

 

[bluetoe]

Look in the mirror, dumbass.

wow, that was original.

 

[blazers]

take a hint. The fact that you have to ask that should finally make it dawn on you that at base level, it isn't about Trump OR Biden. The left is repugnant to us, as is anyone who represents it as enthusiastically and stupidly as Biden does. By the same token, anyone who takes it on it as strongly as Trump has and does is someone to be venerated.

But the loathing of Biden-types means we'll elect anyone to oust them.

I'm not sure if you understand. What i'm saying is that by supporting Trump you are enhancing the odds that Biden is the pres in 2024. If you have an ounce of political savvy you are pushing for a centrist repub that will pull the never-trumper Repubs and many indy's into your camp.

 

[bluetoe]

I long for the days when people didn't feel the need to protest. Or when they did, nobody cared.

That's exactly what is wrong with people today. People's lives are so empty and unfulfilling that they feel the need to wrap themselves in these social causes as a way to ignore their own failures. There was once a time when people worried about themselves and their families and frankly, we were better off because of it.

my take is they are so complacent with their own situations that they seek fulfillment in tilting at others' windmills. No windmill? No dragons to slay? No problem, you just manufacture one or hype those that do exist.

If you are really paying attention, you can easily see that the social meddling is about the meddler.

 

[Heels Noir]

If you have an ounce of political savvy you are pushing for a centrist repub that will pull the never-trumper Repubs and many indy's into your camp.

Ha! Fat chance of that happening. Go, Trump!!

 

[bluetoe]

I'm not sure if you understand. What i'm saying is that by supporting Trump you are enhancing the odds that Biden is the pres in 2024. If you have an ounce of political savvy you are pushing for a centrist repub that will pull the never-trumper Repubs and many indy's into your camp.

I understood perfectly. That's why I added the last line. Many might throw weight behind Trump now, but when the rubber meets the road, we'll put a nominee in with the best chance of winning. Or that's my belief, at least, and I'm not saying Trump won't be that nominee. But if he is, it won't be because of Trump-worship..

 

[bluetoe]

Fat chance of that happening. And no, Boy Blunder does not understand much of anything. Go, Trump!!

says the dolt who thinks evolution started with the appearance of human beings.

 

[tarheel0910]

I long for the days when people didn't feel the need to protest. Or when they did, nobody cared.

That's exactly what is wrong with people today. People's lives are so empty and unfulfilling that they feel the need to wrap themselves in these social causes as a way to ignore their own failures. There was once a time when people worried about themselves and their families and frankly, we were better off because of it.

When was the last time people didn't protest something?

 

[bluetoe]

When was the last time people didn't protest something?

when was the last time people protested about their own problems instead of others'?

 

[gunslingerdick]

When was the last time people didn't protest something?

Fairly recently actually. It's become trendy to define yourself by which causes you protest. High school kids are so wrapped up in "social justice" yet most of them couldn't even define the term. Go back just 20 years ago, and high school kids didn't give a rip about faux causes. Better times.