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blazers said:
You found one! Good job.
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Yeah, the tweets you poast are always consensus. Lol.

blazers said:
As for general, well, you better hope he's in one of the few purple districts in one of the few purple states that actually make a difference anymore due to gerrymandering.
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The Trump haters are coming around after their lives are slowly being ruined by the current admin. Biden's approval numbers show it. Turnout will be low.

blazers said:
Most people want wealthy elitists to pay the same fine for jaywalking that that rest of us do.
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Funny seeing that no one in NY is facing consequences for breaking laws these days, let alone the crime of having an affair.

You're such a partisan moron. How do you make it through the day without wanting to kill yourself?
 
gunslingerdick said:
Just when I thought you couldn't be more obsessed with me, you go and remind everyone how often I'm on your mind.
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I guess when your favorite president in history gets beat, your political party is in turmoil, your wife leaves you and life in general sucks these days, all you really have left is misplaced self-flattery, eh?
 
Heels Noir said:
This information is widely available on the Internet:

What is Trump accused of?
While the precise charges are secret for now, prosecutors have concluded they can prove a criminal case against Trump because of the apparent subterfuge surrounding a $130,000 payment to adult-film actress Stormy Daniels to keep her from publicizing her claim about a sexual encounter with Trump. Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen funded that payment through a home equity line of credit.

Trump insisted in April 2018 he did not know about the hush money, but Cohen provided Congress a series of check images, signed by Trump, reflecting payments to Cohen that he said were reimbursements for the money he laid out, including at least two that came while Trump was in the White House. Cohen said that Trump and his company concealed the purpose of the payments by falsely labeling them as legal expenses.

Under New York law, disguising such payments in corporate records is a crime, but typically only a misdemeanor. It becomes a felony if the false business records were intended to obscure a second crime. In this case, that second crime appears to be the use of the funds to advance Trump’s presidential campaign allegedly in violation of campaign finance laws.
www.politico.com

Your questions about the Trump indictment, answered

How strong is the case? Can Trump continue campaigning? And when will he be brought to trial?
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I've already outlined here pretty much exactly this, and everal times. If you could read, you'd see that this wasn't the crime I was questioning. I was asking for a breakdown of what has been claimed to be his ongoing criminality.

I also explained that this isn't being done in the pursuit of a criminal act, but rather of a political opponent.

But thanks, I know that in your own insidious way you were trying to help clarify. You did supply good info on the supposed crime coverup part, which I also was aware of but didn't elaborate on because that's the stretch the prosecuting DA is going for just for the sake of exposing Trump for political purposes. The conviction he wants has the public as the jury.

I got most of the info weeks ago from tuning into whatever conservative talk show was on the radio at the time, and they played tape of the DA's discussion of what he was doing. He did nothing to dispel the notion that this was political.
 
Heels Noir said:
I guess when your favorite president in history gets beat, your political party is in turmoil, your wife leaves you and life in general sucks these days, all you really have left is misplaced self-flattery, eh?
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Do your mom and dad know you talk this way to strangers on the internet?
 
blazers said:
The red wave is finally coming? What does this mean for city council there in Shitstainville?
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My city council is red after being blue for some time. I don’t get your question. Also, what does that have to do with Biden’s sinking approval numbers? Lastly, in what community do you live?
 
blazers said:
Most people want wealthy elitists to pay the same fine for jaywalking that that rest of us do.
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include me in that sentiment; treat the wealthy elitists just like anyone else.

Now ask yourself when was the last time you know of someone being charged with the heinous crime of jaywalking, in spite of jaywalking being rampant. Do you still want the wealthy elitists treated like everyone else? Of course you don't, hypocrite, you selectively want them to be made exceptions after all.
 
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bluetoe said:
I've already outlined here pretty much exactly this, and everal [sic] times.
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I doubt that, but the truth is I have been working for more than a week on a project out of state so I haven't even read several pages of this thread. In addition to that, I have recently developed the habit of skipping over most of your inane goobledygook.

However, had you actually researched this as you allege you would know that the "breakdown of what has been claimed to be [Trump's] ongoing criminality" is currently sealed and won't be revealed, at least not publicly, until next week's arraignment. It's called court procedure, Boy Blunder.
 
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IMO this indictment will push Trump out of the POTUS race for good. yes he could get some "sympathy" votes, but the majority of evangelicals and non-voting 2020 independents and women are going to support DeSantis. the MAGA's are super charged by this, for sure - but they're not the voters that RD needs the most. and some of them will definitely defect and support RD simply bc they hate libs, woke, Biden, etc.

honestly, as someone who did not want Trump to run (and lose) again in 2024, this indictment is music to my ears.
 
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bleeduncblue said:
IMO this indictment will push Trump out of the POTUS race for good. yes he could get some "sympathy" votes, but the majority of evangelicals and non-voting 2020 independents and women are going to support DeSantis. the MAGA's are super charged by this, for sure - but they're not the voters that RD needs the most. and some of them definitely defect and support RD simply bc they hate libs, woke, Biden, etc.

honestly, as someone who did not want Trump to run (and lose) again in 2024, this indictment is music to my ears.
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If biden is the dem nominee there’s prob a dz repubs could beat him. Dude is just too old with too many faux paus on his resume.
 
heelmanwilm said:
If biden is the dem nominee there’s prob a dz repubs could beat him. Dude is just too old with too many faux paus on his resume.
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that's what a lot of people thought in 2020. i'm not taking anything for granted. Trump cannot win a General Election. DeSantis, on the other hand, would walk the dog.
 
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Heels Noir said:
Wait, I thought you were onboard the MAGA boat. When did you bail?

By the way, I agree with you. This is the best thing that could happen to the Republican Party.
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i voted for him twice, not sure what boat that puts me in. i definitely preferred him over Kilary or Papaw.

i would vote for him again if i thought he could win, but he cant.
 
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gunslingerdick said:
The Trump haters are coming around after their lives are slowly being ruined by the current admin. Biden's approval numbers show it. TURNOUT WILL BE LOW.
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While I would agree with this sentiment if all things were equal and fair, did we not learn anything from 2020?
 
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bleeduncblue said:
IMO this indictment will push Trump out of the POTUS race for good. yes he could get some "sympathy" votes, but the majority of evangelicals and non-voting 2020 independents and women are going to support DeSantis. the MAGA's are super charged by this, for sure - but they're not the voters that RD needs the most. and some of them will definitely defect and support RD simply bc they hate libs, woke, Biden, etc.

honestly, as someone who did not want Trump to run (and lose) again in 2024, this indictment is music to my ears.
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Trump’s lead over the field is widening since the news.
 
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gunslingerdick said:
Trump’s lead over the field is widening since the news.
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the same pollsters from late 2016 or 2020? 😉 IMO those polls dont tell us anything. i'm just going by gut, observance and personal experience. this court case will drag on for months and months ... our country is weird but i dont believe that folks are going to support a guy who's on trial or just completed a trial (regardless of the outcome). and keep in mind that a lot of primary voting / Iowa caucus, etc are Q1 2024 ... that will be here very quickly!
 
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strummingram said:
I know I've been spreading the word.

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I’m not surprised. Always thought you were creepy.
 
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So cops went undercover as Antifa on Jan6, and Trump supporters repeatedly told the police Antifa were causing mayhem, breaking windows and such.

Maybe it was the police themselves?

 
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Heels Noir said:
I doubt that, but the truth is I have been working for more than a week on a project out of state so I haven't even read several pages of this thread. In addition to that, I have recently developed the habit of skipping over most of your inane goobledygook.

However, had you actually researched this as you allege you would know that the "breakdown of what has been claimed to be [Trump's] ongoing criminality" is currently sealed and won't be revealed, at least not publicly, until next week's arraignment. It's called court procedure, Boy Blunder.
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Jesus Christ, goober, his supposed ongoing criminality has been alleged for seven years now. I plainly stated, several times now and within the several pages that you say you limited yourself to perusing, that it is not this current accusation that I wanted or needed a breakdown of, but rather his alleged ONGOING CRIMINALITY; and I say again....if you could read you would know that, and you would know that I have outlined exactly what I said I outlined. You would also know that my request was for a breakdown of his ONGOING CRIMINALITY, and not just the current accusation. Can this be repeated enough to sink into your thick skull? Probably not.

Pro tip for you. Don't open your piehole about things you admittedly have no awareness or knowledge of. That only belies your dummied-up facade of something other than a garden variety, try-too-hard dolt.

Your trip out of state didn't make you any smarter. But then, neither does your presence.
 
Our current President is compromised because of his family’s shady dealings with China and Russia, yet all the squad wants to talk about is Trump committing a misdemeanor on which the statute of limitations has expired. Figures. TDS is a dreadful disease.
 
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bluetoe said:
include me in that sentiment; treat the wealthy elitists just like anyone else.

Now ask yourself when was the last time you know of someone being charged with the heinous crime of jaywalking, in spite of jaywalking being rampant. Do you still want the wealthy elitists treated like everyone else? Of course you don't, hypocrite, you selectively want them to be made exceptions after all.
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Trump will be charged for similar crimes as his old attorney Cohen. They both should be treated similar.
 
Heels Noir said:
That Trump supporters are poor losers?
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I suppose it is hardly shocking that the CAPITALIZED and BOLDED topic of voter turnout went over your head, that your tds is so bad that you ignored it to focus on your personal hatred, that you made another lame attempt at what you think is humor, or all three.
 
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prlyles said:
Trump will be charged for similar crimes as his old attorney Cohen. They both should be treated similar.
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He was charged with offenses not related to Trump. Lanny Davis got him to plead to a non-crime as an attempt to set Trump up, but it's not a crime.
 
randman1 said:
He was charged with offenses not related to Trump. Lanny Davis got him to plead to a non-crime as an attempt to set Trump up, but it's not a crime.
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Dude (and I use the term very VERY loosely) do you just make shitt up on the fly and assume everyone is as fuking ignorant and uninformed as you evidently are? “Charged with offenses not related to trump”? Good lord. Just how fuking stupid are you? Just when I think you’ve posted the absolute stupidest mind numbing bullshit humanly possible you come along and somehow manage to raise (or is it lower) the bar more
 
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gunslingerdick said:
Don’t look now, I found another 60k.

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wait, 85% of Clay Travis Twitter followers say they'll vote for Trump ... holy crap, shocking!!

all kidding aside, those folks arent the ones that DT needs - he has them no matter what. he needs the majority of evangelicals, Gen X women and the folks who skipped voting altogether in 2020 bc both candidates sucked ... i seriously doubt that those groups are MORE likely to vote for him this time around.

and this is assuming he's allowed to be a candidate in the Primary, which is not a given at this point.
 
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wait, 85% of Clay Travis Twitter followers say they'll vote for Trump ... holy crap, shocking!!

all kidding aside, those folks arent the ones that DT needs - he has them no matter what. he needs the majority of evangelicals, Gen X women and the folks who skipped voting altogether in 2020 bc both candidates sucked ... i seriously doubt that those groups are MORE likely to vote for him this time around.

and this is assuming he's allowed to be a candidate in the Primary, which is not a given at this point.
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You are seriously underestimating the American political system and the intelligence of the American public. The funniest part is how you already admitted to willingly voting for him twice. You'll do it again... and, again and again if you could.

The one thing that DJT needs to get elected and remain in a power role is... ATTENTION! And, the American public has so much of that to offer him that he is set for life. I think his corpse will even get headlines for a few centuries.
 
strummingram said:
You are seriously underestimating the American political system and the intelligence of the American public. The funniest part is how you already admitted to willingly voting for him twice. You'll do it again... and, again and again if you could.

The one thing that DJT needs to get elected and remain in a power role is... ATTENTION! And, the American public has so much of that to offer him that he is set for life. I think his corpse will even get headlines for a few centuries.
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so you think all attention is GOOD attention?

yes i will always vote, regardless of the quality of the candidates. i will vote for the lesser of 2 evils when necessary (2016 and 2020).

read this carefully: i do not want Trump to be the Republican candidate in 2024. read it again, take your time.
 
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bleeduncblue said:
so you think all attention is GOOD attention?
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If we're talking about Donald Trump? Absolutely. That guy generates so much revenue and cottage industry motivation, it's staggering. It's a regenerating process. All media outlets benefit financially from DJT.

I don't care if you "want him" to be anything. You'll vote for him if he's the nominee. You'd vote for ANYONE who gets the GOP nomination. America is the epitome of a perfect oligarchy. It has successfully, and permanently, divided the population. It's conditioned the populace to accept the absolute WORST fukking people to "lead" them. And, now, it's way beyond "accepting" them. They eagerly support and demand them. They'll donate $$$ to them, even though the candidates have more wealth than their entire zip code.
 
strummingram said:
If we're talking about Donald Trump? Absolutely. That guy generates so much revenue and cottage industry motivation, it's staggering. It's a regenerating process. All media outlets benefit financially from DJT.

I don't care if you "want him" to be anything. You'll vote for him if he's the nominee. You'd vote for ANYONE who gets the GOP nomination. America is the epitome of a perfect oligarchy. It has successfully, and permanently, divided the population. It's conditioned the populace to accept the absolute WORST fukking people to "lead" them. And, now, it's way beyond "accepting" them. They eagerly support and demand them. They'll donate $$$ to them, even though the candidates have more wealth than their entire zip code.
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Shouldn’t you be saying, “we” eagerly support and demand them? I mean, you voted, right? So you’re as much a part of the problem as anyone else, right? You’ve been conditioned too. Don’t try to shirk the responsibility with “they”.
 
gunslingerdick said:
Shouldn’t you be saying, “we” eagerly support and demand them? I mean, you voted, right? So you’re as much a part of the problem as anyone else, right? You’ve been conditioned too. Don’t try to shirk the responsibility with “they”.
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Soooo, there IS a problem? My semantic inclusion and culpability is what matters to you. What a shock.
 
strummingram said:
If we're talking about Donald Trump? Absolutely. That guy generates so much revenue and cottage industry motivation, it's staggering. It's a regenerating process. All media outlets benefit financially from DJT.

I don't care if you "want him" to be anything. You'll vote for him if he's the nominee. You'd vote for ANYONE who gets the GOP nomination. America is the epitome of a perfect oligarchy. It has successfully, and permanently, divided the population. It's conditioned the populace to accept the absolute WORST fukking people to "lead" them. And, now, it's way beyond "accepting" them. They eagerly support and demand them. They'll donate $$$ to them, even though the candidates have more wealth than their entire zip code.
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okay i'll let you figure out this clear disgust and disappointment that you have with our political system, that's a can of worms i dont care to discuss. it's broken, for sure - but i'll stay here and do my part by voting for the person who i think will do the best job.

here is my point: yes, the media outlets benefit from the attention he gets. but you're delusional if you truly believe that this indictment is "good" attention for Trump himself. it absolutely is not. yes his supporters are energized by it ... but a lot of people are now more turned off than they already were and that will cost him votes. but again, i dont think he'll even be a candidate when the time comes.
 
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bleeduncblue said:
okay i'll let you figure out this clear disgust and disappointment that you have with our political system, that's a can of worms i dont care to discuss. it's broken, for sure - but i'll stay here and do my part by voting for the person who i think will do the best job.

here is my point: yes, the media outlets benefit from the attention he gets. but you're delusional if you truly believe that this indictment is "good" attention for Trump himself. it absolutely is not. yes his supporters are energized by it ... but a lot of people are now more turned off than they already were and that will cost him votes. but again, i dont think he'll even be a candidate when the time comes.
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Attention is all he needs.
 
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